Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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I think everything there is to be said about Marius has been said!! It's time for the prosecution to bring action against Marius and let the court litigate and pass sentencing against him or close the case.
 
kalnel said:
Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!
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By "negotiate "I meant the inevitable , ongoing fallout from the result's of MM's no doubt lovingly meant letter . The Norwegian media have admitted that ,in this editors own words , they "dimmed the spotlight" on Marius , specifically naming his mother as the reason . What a cop out . I did not realise, as a non Norwegian that not "hounding " Marius in the public press might have prevented this mess . Marius has admitted to having serious addiction issues for almost a decade , admitted that he knew that the "free public press " in Norway would not publish / would in effect "cover up " behaviour that would have resulted in a serious scandal and likely criminal charges . I do not consider it "nonsense " to feel that if ,not only Marius , but his birth parents / step parents had been publicly held responsible for his behaviour , then he might , I can only say might, have taken treatment more seriously . I can , as we all do only speak as an outsider . I cannot even begin to comprehend what the past decade has put his family , Marius , his partners through . In my own family , alcohol is a curse . My thoughts and prayers are with his victims and family , and of course Marius .

kalnel said:
Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!


But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.
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By " negotiate " I meant that they the NRF , especially the CP couple have to find a path that will explain the protection afforded to Marius by the press and authorities over and above that afforded to even the most privileged Norwegian . I absolutely agree that the fact of his mothers marriage to CP Haakon meant that Marius was never going to have an average life . However , with great privilege comes responsibility . No, Marius was never going to have an official Royal role , he was nevertheless always publicly , and no doubt in private , included in the NRF . What a wasted opportunity , lets hope his third decade is more positive .
 
Juliane Snekkestad says at the second podcast of "Chit Chat with Helle" that she has received a lot of supportive messages, but that there have also been comments in which she is accused of seeking attention.
- I can promise you one thing. If it was attention I was looking for, then I would have gone out two years ago and said all this, as it were.
For her it is about justice, that enough is enough. There was nothing more ulterior motive than that at all. It has been extremely tiring, so it is not something she went out with for attention. She can also understand that people think like that and doesn't care about the comments.
www.tv2.no

Går ut mot kommentarer: - Ikke ute etter oppmerksomhet

Juliane Snekkestad reagerer på kommentarer hun skal ha fått etter å ha gått ut med anklagene mot ekskjæresten Marius Borg Høiby.
www.tv2.no www.tv2.no

From an debate article in Nettavisen:
If Marius is as private a person as the royal house, and not least the crown princess, wants it to be, what is he doing with a diplomatic passport? Does he still live in Skaugum? Is his stay at Skaugum covered by tax money? His legal fees? Who financed his cocaine consumption? Does he still have a diplomatic passport?
Unfortunately, the royal family's tactics seem to be winning out while the people forget over time. (.)
www.nettavisen.no

Kongehusets taktikk ser dessverre ut til å vinne fram

Etter at Marius Borg Høiby ble arrestert og siktet for vold og skadeverk i august, har det vært påfallende stille fra kongehuset. Hvorfor?
www.nettavisen.no www.nettavisen.no

Information to Aftenposten: The police gave Marius a notice to hand in his weapon
The police announced that they wanted to deprive Marius of the opportunity to have weapons.
(..)

www.aftenposten.no

Opplysninger til Aftenposten: Politiet ga Høiby varsel om å levere inn våpenet sitt

Politiet varslet om at de ønsket å frata Marius Borg Høiby muligheten til å ha våpen.
www.aftenposten.no www.aftenposten.no
 
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LadyFinn said:
From an debate article in Nettavisen:
If Marius is as private a person as the royal house, and not least the crown princess, wants it to be, what is he doing with a diplomatic passport? Does he still live in Skaugum? Is his stay at Skaugum covered by tax money? His legal fees? Who financed his cocaine consumption? Does he still have a diplomatic passport?
Unfortunately, the royal family's tactics seem to be winning out while the people forget over time. (.)
www.nettavisen.no

Kongehusets taktikk ser dessverre ut til å vinne fram

Etter at Marius Borg Høiby ble arrestert og siktet for vold og skadeverk i august, har det vært påfallende stille fra kongehuset. Hvorfor?
www.nettavisen.no www.nettavisen.no
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These are all the important and valid questions that needs answering!
 
About time! He is after all under investigation for several cases of abuse against people, and with good reason.
He should have had his weapons license revoked weeks ago and he should have been told to hand in his weapon at the same time.
After all, most women worldwide who suffer a violent death are killed by their partner/boyfriend/husband/ex.

FYI.
In Scandinavia it's pretty difficult to get a license for a firearm. You basically have to have a good reason for owning one. And simplified they are in general:
Hunters, shotguns and rifles. That requires a hunting license, which includes time at the shooting range until you are proficient in using and shooting the weapon and can basically recite the legislation regarding safety, transport and storage of the weapon in your sleep.
Your criminal records are checked.
If you appear to to have a mental illnesses or have an addiction, forget it!
You are required to store your weapon and ammunition in safes at home, with the bolt stored separately from your weapon.
The police can check unannounced whether your weapon is stored safely.
If you are under investigation of a serious crime and especially if sentenced you will lose your license temporarily or permanently and your weapon must be handed over to the police for storage or confiscation. After which it will be sold at a police auction or destroyed.

Membership of a shooting club. After a considerable membership, where you have proven that are proficient with the weapon and the safety regulation you can apply for a permit to buy and own your own weapon and store it at home. Same rules as above.

Membership of the Home Guard.
Here you learn about your weapon and the safety regulations. In some cases you can store your personal weapon, be that assault rifle, pistol, machine gun or submachine gun and weapon at home, after having been checked by the security police and you being above a certain age, 20 I believe is most common. As well as 100 rounds of ammunition. But only of you are able to store the weapon, bolt and ammunition safely at home. Otherwise it will have to be stored at the depot of your unit.

And that's basically it. Forget all about a weapon for self defense.

You can also own antique firearms as a collector, but these will typically be very old, often black powder weapons, and/or rendered unable to fire. In any way it should be extremely difficult to obtain ammunition for such weapons.

Despite that there are hundreds of thousands of legal firearms in Norway and it's common for household especially in rural areas to own a firearm of some sort.
 
One of the worst mass shootings in Europe happened in Norway in 2011 with automatic weapons obtained legally in a country with 5 million people, and the worst in human history by a lone shooter.

I'm sorry Muhler, but Scandinavian laws are not more difficult to obtain firearms than in any other country in Europe. In Spain, it's impossible to get a pistol or an automatic weapon by a civilian. The only guns allowed are double barrel shotguns for hunting and farmers in specific parts of the country, with a mountain of checks before the license is given.

Even the farmers granted permits to defend themselves against attacks from bears are very aware the animals are protected and their shotgun is a more defensive/deterrent mechanism than anything else.

Norway has always been very laxed with firearms laws.
 
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Alondra said:
One of the worst mass shootings in Europe happened in Norway in 2011 with automatic weapons obtained legally in a country with 5 million people, and the worst in human history by a lone shooter.

I'm sorry Muhler, but Scandinavian laws are not more difficult to obtain firearms than in any other country in Europe. In Spain, it's impossible to get a pistol or an automatic weapon by a civilian. The only guns allowed are double barrel shotguns for hunting and farmers in specific parts of the country, with a mountain of checks before the license is given.

Even the farmers granted permits to defend themselves against attacks from bears are very aware the animals are protected and their shotgun is a more defensive/deterrent mechanism than anything else.

Norway has always been very laxed with firearms laws.
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Thanks.
I'm sure there are stricter laws (as well as less strict laws) elsewhere in Europe but I'm not so familiar with them that I will presume to write about them, so I only wrote about the general laws in Scandinavia today, especially is this applies to Norway.

Anyway, I'm glad Marius was required to hand in his (legal) weapon. I'm sure everyone will agree that a person who has admitted to have an addiction as well as mental issues, should not posses a firearm of any kind. In fact he should have handed it over by himself long ago. Or been persuaded to hand it over. I wouldn't sleep well if I knew my son had an addiction, anger issues and (according to Marius himself) mental issues as well - combined with also having a firearm and, we must assume, ammunition at home. I would at the very least be concerned about a possible suicide. And after the death of Ari Behn I would be very worried about a possible suicide!
In that light I hope and trust MM and Haakon made sure long ago to get hold of Marius weapon and had it stored safely elsewhere.
It's also good the license has (finally) been revoked. After all with a license it's so much easier and faster to buy new weapons and ammunition.

I just hope Marius hasn't got other (illegal) weapons lying around.
 
Do we know what kind of weapon he possessed? I hope it wasn't the machine-gun looking weapon which he was posing with.
 
At Aftenposten (you can read the paywall article with Google translator)
Marius no longer has access to the crown prince couple's residence and the secured part of Skaugum.
Aftenposten is informed of this from several sources. Marius has previously had access to the main house. He has now lost access to this area, Aftenposten has been informed.
The Royal House's Communications Manager Guri Varpe: We don't comment on details of access control or security conditions at royal properties.
www.aftenposten.no

Høiby fratatt tilgangen til kronprinsparets bolig og deler av Skaugum

Marius Borg Høiby har ikke lenger tilgang til hovedhuset og den sikrede delen av Skaugum.
www.aftenposten.no www.aftenposten.no

Press chief in the Oslo police district, Unni Grøndal, confirms to VG that the police have received the petition.
- Could it be relevant to interrogate her (Mette-Marit)?
- We have to get back to that.
VG has tried to get in touch with the Royal Palace, but has not received a reply.
www.vg.no

Bistandsadvokat ber politiet kalle inn kronprinsesse Mette-Marit til avhør

Snekkestads bistandsadvokat Petter J. Grødem mener det fremstår helt naturlig at kronprinsesse Mette-Marit blir kalt inn.
www.vg.no www.vg.no

polyesco said:
The smile and pose of someone who is deeply sorry for the physical abuse against an ex girlfriend. Who this time will take his rehabilitation very seriously.
www.seher.no

Viser finger'n til oppslaget

Viser nok en gang at han ikke tar saken på alvor.
www.seher.no www.seher.no
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The current edition of Se og Hør was on the shelves on Tuesday last week. It is unknown when the picture of Marius was taken.
- The picture speaks for itself, says the lawyer for the third women in the case, Mette Yvonne Larsen, to Dagbladet.
Nora Haukland's lawyer John Christian Elden:
- It doesn't exactly emphasize his press release about taking responsibility and showing remorse, but he may have his reasons for disliking Se og Hør, he writes in a statement to Dagbladet.
www.dagbladet.no

Høiby-bilde skaper reaksjoner

Et nytt bilde av kronprinsessens eldste sønn sprer seg nå i sosiale medier. - Taler for seg selv, sier bistandsadvokat i saken.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no

Web news site Uten Filter publishes the name of the third victim.
Their sources say that the petrol card and its code were not stolen, but Marius gave them voluntarily to pay off a debt to an actor in a well-known motorcycle club. The amount that this group illegitimately managed to get out of the card is very high. The Palace hasn't reported the case. In this way, the illegitimate use of the petrol card has not become a police matter. Uten Filter has sent questions to the Palace but hasn't got answers.
Marius has also supplied abundantly from the Royal House's wine cellar, far in excess of his own consumption. He has been in contact with actors for the resale of exclusive goods which obviously originate from the Royal House's wine cellar, wine bottles worth many thousands of kroner that have been tried to be sold.
www.utenfilter.no

Høiby: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin

Nok én av Marius Borg Høibys mange inntektskilder: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin.
www.utenfilter.no www.utenfilter.no
 
www.aftenposten.no

Bistandsadvokat ber politiet kalle inn kronprinsesse Mette-Marit til avhør

– Bevissituasjonen i saken er slik at vi mener det er helt naturlig at vi får hennes forklaring nå, sier Juliane Snekkestads bistandsadvokat.
www.aftenposten.no www.aftenposten.no

The Lawyer for Juliane Snekkestad has formally requested that the police question CP Mette Marit in connection with the case against Marius.
The lawyer Petter Grødum says:
"The situation regarding evidence in this case is such that we find a matter of course that we now get her explanation (statement). I actually believe it would be unnatural (most unusual) if she does not answer questions from the police. A explanation from the Crown Princess will in my opinion shed new light in regards to the case against her son."
 
Well, it goes to show, once again, that Marius is too immature, too entitled or too stupid to understand the situation.
He is of course a bad boy, a rebel and gangsta and in that light it's no surprise he would pose like that for a camera.
I wonder too if it's a condition. I.e. he simply cannot feel empathy, understand rules, cannot understand social norms etc.
If that is so, he is, I understand, worse off, because there is currently no medication and therapy for that. And that means he's likely to re-offend.

As for the request to have Mette Marit questioned. She can easily wriggle her way out of that. But it will of course put the NRF in a bad light, they are after all supposed to help the authorities as best as they can as the model citizens they are expected to be.
So it's IMO basically a finger pointing at Mette Marit saying: you know, did or did not do something, whatever that may be.
A number of possibilities pops up in my mind and probably yours as well.

AFAIK according to Norwegian legislation Mette Marit cannot be forced to give evidence against her son, because they are very closely related. Not even in court.
But Haakon is only a bonus-dad so he could I suppose be called up to give evidence in court - in theory.

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It's interesting that Marius has now been barred from entering the restricted area of Skaugum, and that basically means where the NRF lives. I suspect this is a government decision. Because based on the behavior of the NRF, in particular the CP-Couple, I doubt it's something they have decided - on the contrary. Otherwise they would have done it long ago.
 
Haakon, Mette-Marit, and their security team at Skaugum are all game for interrogation. Recall that Marius destroyed Skaugum property, and brought shady characters and criminals on to the property. Also was there not reported theft of property at Skaugum? The CP couple under normal circumstances should be asked to give statements and should be questioned. However as mentioned, I am sure they will find a way to wiggle out of it.
 
Muhler said:
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It's interesting that Marius has now been barred from entering the restricted area of Skaugum, and that basically means where the NRF lives. I suspect this is a government decision. Because based on the behavior of the NRF, in particular the CP-Couple, I doubt it's something they have decided - on the contrary. Otherwise they would have done it long ago.
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For me it's very clear that this decision came outside Haakon/Mette-Marit. Real consequences seems to be outside their realms or else it would have happened a long time ago.
Also his driving on the estate. Crashing and putting guards at risk should have resulted in his inability to drive past the gates.

I hope the government goes further and removes the diplomatic passport. No reason for him to have one.
 
LadyFinn said:
Web news site Uten Filter publishes the name of the third victim.
Their sources say that the petrol card and its code were not stolen, but Marius gave them voluntarily to pay off a debt to an actor in a well-known motorcycle club. The amount that this group illegitimately managed to get out of the card is very high. The Palace hasn't reported the case. In this way, the illegitimate use of the petrol card has not become a police matter. Uten Filter has sent questions to the Palace but hasn't got answers.
Marius has also supplied abundantly from the Royal Palace's wine cellar, far in excess of his own consumption. Marius has been in contact with actors for the resale of exclusive goods which obviously originate from the Royal Palace's wine cellar, wine bottles worth many thousands of kroner that have been tried to be sold.
www.utenfilter.no

Høiby: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin

Nok én av Marius Borg Høibys mange inntektskilder: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin.
www.utenfilter.no www.utenfilter.no
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Would this mean that he was not given much money by his parents?
 
This just gets worse and worse. Marius just seems to have been allowed to purloin and pilfer and sell things to local criminal elements with no questions asked.

How did Marius get his hands on valuable wines like this in the first place? Aren’t the royal wine cellars under lock and key in the charge of a wine steward or his/her equivalent? Or did his parents just toss him the said keys and said ‘Go for your life’! You would think the financial accounts would be questioned at least, with many bottles gone.
 
LadyFinn said:
Web news site Uten Filter publishes the name of the third victim.
Their sources say that the petrol card and its code were not stolen, but Marius gave them voluntarily to pay off a debt to an actor in a well-known motorcycle club. The amount that this group illegitimately managed to get out of the card is very high. The Palace hasn't reported the case. In this way, the illegitimate use of the petrol card has not become a police matter. Uten Filter has sent questions to the Palace but hasn't got answers.
Marius has also supplied abundantly from the Royal House's wine cellar, far in excess of his own consumption. He has been in contact with actors for the resale of exclusive goods which obviously originate from the Royal House's wine cellar, wine bottles worth many thousands of kroner that have been tried to be sold.
www.utenfilter.no

Høiby: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin

Nok én av Marius Borg Høibys mange inntektskilder: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin.
www.utenfilter.no www.utenfilter.no
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A minor translation error: Not actor, but aktør = in this case someone who is an active member of or active in a motorcycle-gang.
And in the second case it means someone who is in the business of buying and selling vintage wine.
- So it was hardly Chateau Walmart Marius stole and tried to sell! We are talking seriously priced vintage wines. And I guess that such exclusive wines without a proper (what do you call it? Pedigree?) are very difficult to sell legally.

This news outlet claims to have written about Marius' antics before and before the rest of the press did so. A quick search on their site resulted in no such articles, and I haven't got time for a proper Google search.

Ghost said:
Would this mean that he was not given much money by his parents?
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Obviously not. :confused:
Considering that he lived rent-free at Skaugum, a very exclusive address. Probably didn't pay for electricity, water, heating and maintenance either. Probably had free access to food, drink and other household items at his parents place, right across the street, he certainly saved a lot of money! And if he got a bit of money on top of that he ought to be able to live a decent life
royalwatcher96 said:
A cocaine addiction is not a cheap habit and it has to be financed somehow. Marius is showing a remarkable degree of ruthless, criminal energy once again. Selling royal possesions to gangsters under the nose of the Crown Prince is simply outrageous and damaging for Haakon and the entire court.
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You steal from those close to you, because that's easiest and they are likely to forgive you - perhaps for too long.
 
Let's face it: Marius selling from his parents wine cellar would be actually good news! Because it means, he was no large scale drug dealer...

I remember to have seen pics of Marius at parties with very expensive bottles of Champagne. Maybe he was just supplying his peeps for free? But then he was probably a successful drug trader... So, let's stick with the thievery!
 
Muhler said:
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Obviously not. :confused:
Considering that he lived rent-free at Skaugum, a very exclusive address. Probably didn't pay for electricity, water, heating and maintenance either. Probably had free access to food, drink and other household items at his parents place, right across the street, he certainly saved a lot of money! And if he got a bit of money on top of that he ought to be able to live a decent life
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Unfortunately I think Marius was living a decadent life, one that required a lot of liquid cash. Hard to turn free rent and utilities into millions of kroner.
 
Well this latest news just reflects horribly on Haakon. He can't control his household or run the royal court properly.
A stolen credit card, how much was spent? No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Stolen bottles of wine? No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Damage royal property, No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Does Haakon not have staff? do they not report anything? or he does not care. it's little Marius, leave him alone.
 
Just a question: How much money does the NRF get from the taxpayers? What expenses does it cover? They sure must have private income as well, inheritated or accumulated for generations.
It is the question if Marius, being a stepchild of Haakon and not having any royal duties is being supported by taxpayers.
That would be an interesting question to ask.
 
victor1319 said:
Let's face it: Marius selling from his parents wine cellar would be actually good news! Because it means, he was no large scale drug dealer...

I remember to have seen pics of Marius at parties with very expensive bottles of Champagne. Maybe he was just supplying his peeps for free? But then he was probably a successful drug trader... So, let's stick with the thievery!
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Good point.
I hope you are right.
As long as he hasn't turned career criminal, there may still hope. But he needs to get far away from his criminal friends, no matter what. Or they'll drag him back sooner or later.
But so far I see little evidence of Marius being interested in changing his life.
llj said:
Unfortunately I think Marius was living a decadent life, one that required a lot of liquid cash. Hard to turn free rent and utilities into millions of kroner.
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Yep, you said it.
polyesco said:
Well this latest news just reflects horribly on Haakon. He can't control his household or run the royal court properly.
A stolen credit card, how much was spent? No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Stolen bottles of wine? No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Damage royal property, No worries, the taxpayer pays.
Does Haakon not have staff? do they not report anything? or he does not care. it's little Marius, leave him alone.
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Reading some of the comments and editorials, that's exactly what a number of Norwegians are thinking.
Are there anyone at home at the palace? And who pays for all this?
Are there anyone in charge?!?
It reflects bad on the CP-Couple but unfortunately also King Harald. These last years of his reign will be very much about Marius and how the NRF didn't handle the situation. A lot of all the good work he has done over the years will lie in the shadow of Marius. Because drama sells, drama ends up in the history books.

Well, if anyone happens to have a spare backbone lying around, please contact the NRF, Haakon is in need of one.

Unfortunately this is just the beginning.
It'll be a lot worse when this ends up in court and witnesses begin to give statements and questions are asked.
There is no way around implicating the NRF, especially now that Marius lawyer has seen it fit not to get his client to retract his accusation about being abused by Juliane Snekkestad.
If I were Haakon and MM I'd pretty nervous about what she is asked in court! The nightmare scenario for the NRF being that Juliane did ask for help from MM an/or Haakon and got none. That Juliane was more or less "persuaded" not to report Marius. That the CP-Couple knew about Marius being abusive but ignored it.
If something like this emerge during the trial, it's more than bad for Haakon in particular!

Of course on the other hand if it emerge during the trial that the CP-Couple did try and help, but that Marius went out of control, it will help salvage some of their by now pretty tattered reputation.
Other questions will of course still come up. Like why they didn't do something drastic about Marius.
 
Please keep the discussion on topic, wich is Mr Marius Borg Høiby. Posts that is not related to him in any way will be removed.
 
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