Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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Indeed. It was a small amount of marihuana. (I didn't think marihuana was common in Europe. I thought it was mainly hashish.)
And the illegal weapon found did not belong to Marius.
However, among the friends at the cabin was a 38 year old, who was recently sentenced in a case of money-laundering and possession of drugs and who is now charged by the police in a major case regarding cocaine.
I think it would have been wise of Marius to put quite a bit of distance between himself and such characters.
Anyway, the police didn't nail him for anything - this time...

www.dagbladet.no

- Ønsket at jeg skulle drepe Nora Haukland

En 26 år gammel mann er siktet for å ha bestilt et leiemord på Marius Borg Høibys ekskjæreste Nora Haukland.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no
And as this wasn't enough, Nora Haukland, has been threatened by a 26 year old who was arrested Monday.
The man, who can only be described as "off", contacted persons in a circle of people the police are familiar with...
Claiming that Haukland owed him money he send an e-mail under a false name to a person, who is anonymous, but has confirmed the story to the press. (The commas and such are mine... Good grief!)
"Hi, I'll send a torpedo (hitman) on Nora Haukland, she owes me 1 million. And if she doesn't pay, you kidnap and kill her. Her address is..."

He also send another e-mail, this time under his real name: (Commas and... You know...)
"Hi, I'm going to threaten a billionaire with a torpedo and you are to pressure him to transfer one billion to my account and this must happen next week. Must be secret. Can you call me tomorrow?"

This 26 year old man, who has no prior record, claims he's not guilty.

- And before you laugh too loud. This is actually how Swedish criminals are advertising services, albeit in more closed and anonymous fora. They are a bloody menace here in DK, I can tell you! It's usually teens, who seek fast money, if they go shoot someone or throw a hand grenade, mainly in Copenhagen, after having been hired by Danish gangs.
In Sweden, young gang members get at most a couple of years in a youth-institution, almost no matter what they do and that they consider an acceptable risk for committing a crime. - In Denmark they get life for murder. Throwing a hand grenade at an empty shop costs five years. That has come as a nasty surprise for the Swedish "hitmen", well "hitboys" actually. Currently some 20 Swedes have been arrested and await trial and sentences. And we are seriously considering setting up a tight border control between DK and Sweden. The public support for that, sure is there!
 
Does this investigation feel unusually long, is this just the normal course of one getting bigger, or are they being meticulous because it’s Marius? Any thoughts?

Whether he cooperates or not, they have to charge him at some point. It’s not like this is the sort of thing where the police are going to press nothing, much as M’s lawyer would probably like it.
 
Prinsara said:
Does this investigation feel unusually long, is this just the normal course of one getting bigger, or are they being meticulous because it’s Marius? Any thoughts?

Whether he cooperates or not, they have to charge him at some point. It’s not like this is the sort of thing where the police are going to press nothing, much as M’s lawyer would probably like it.
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Regardless of the, frankly from a GB perspective[ lord knows how many times our police have covered up things here ] , the desperate efforts of the Norwegian police to avoid actually arresting / detaining marius { I will not use the word alleged , as he has already publicly admitted his guilt ], it has really started me thinking of how we in GB are always being told that , the scandivadian countries are so pro active with regards to women!s right's ,[ men can also be victims of abuse ].Seriously , After admitting that he ,under the influence of drugs and alcohol , physically abused his then partner , involving strangling , and the violent use of a knife , he is still then allowed to swan off on a fortnight to Italy , then a "hunting " weekend with "known " , criminals . (..)
 
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Blog Real said:
Marius Borg Høiby is accused of threatening to kill a 20-year-old man.
The background to the accusation is statements Marius made against an identified man in a telephone conversation.
www.seher.no

Drapstruet har flyttet til utlandet

Marius Borg Høiby er siktet for å ha drapstruet en mann i 20-årene.
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So we’re back to the originally publicized death threat?

I can’t even tell anymore.
 
LadyFinn said:
Marius hasn't yet taken a position on the extended charge against him.
Lawyer Øyvind Bratlien in a text message to NTB: As I have said before, he will not decide on criminal liability until the interrogation is finished. We want to have the interrogation completed within a couple of weeks.
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So, a couple of weeks until Marius speaks to the Police? This sounds like he is extensively coached for this interrogation by his lawyer... Will it help? We'll see...

But the scandal might continue to boil. Who knows, what might come up?
 
The Crown Princess of Norway associating with a Hells Angel! When I think I have seen it all they prove me wrong. These new revelations also make it finally clear that the crown princely family had to know about the things Marius did and the the company he kept. The fact that they were at least tolerating his behaviour constitutes a massive scandal that poses serious questions about the future of the NRF. As of right now, Haakon and MM have shown themselves unworthy to be King and Queen. That sounds harsh, but this spineless attitude towards Marius is not befitting of a regent couple.
 
royalwatcher96 said:
The Crown Princess of Norway associating with a Hells Angel! When I think I have seen it all they prove me wrong. These new revelations also make it finally clear that the crown princely family had to know about the things Marius did and the the company he kept. The fact that they were at least tolerating his behaviour constitutes a massive scandal that poses serious questions about the future of the NRF. As of right now, Haakon and MM have shown themselves unworthy to be King and Queen. That sounds harsh, but this spineless attitude towards Marius is not befitting of a regent couple.
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Well, the cat is out of the bag! I think the worst case scenario has happened for Haakon and MM. Marius has finally involved law enforcement to the point where the nature of his egregious behavior can't be swept under the carpet any longer. Yet, seriously, who is paying for Marius's legal fees and continued lifestyle. The NRF have been one of my favorites minus ML and husband.

I appreciate law enforcement taking their time, making sure they have as much as they can buttoned up before heading to court. I can't even imagine how this will play out.:eek:
 
LadyFinn said:
VG has got information about:
The police believe Marius has used violence against and controlled his two ex-girlfriends over a long period.
Marius was with Juliane Snekkestad from early 2018 until March 2022. He will be charged with having used violence against her during around four years. The police believe Marius has pushed, shoved and/or hit her.
In June 2022 Marius became together with Nora Haukland, they were lovers for around a year. The police believe Marius has hit and pushed her and kicked and/or choked her.
Marius has committed psychological violence against both by controlling what they did and who they were with.
About the death threat, Marius is charged with having sent a man an Instagram message where it was written that the victim was a "f**king dead man".
www.vg.no

Opplysninger til VG: Siktet for å ha mishandlet ekskjærester over tid

Politiet mener Marius Borg Høiby (27) har brukt vold mot og kontrollert to av ekskjærestene sine over en lengre periode.
www.vg.no www.vg.no

Se og Hør has more, some private photos at this article and a video of Marius' friend at Skaugum residence:
Se og Hør has documentation that several people with significant records have been both in Marius' home and the CP couple's private apartment.
Marius has gathered his friends for parties and fun, the "Skaugum festival". Valuable silverware is said to have been stolen from Skaugum and tried to be sold via an auction house, which didn't succeed. A gasoline card belonging to the CP family and issued to The Royal Court has been stolen, used and charged by unknown people in 2020.
Marius and his friends have shared a lot on social media. On a video a person is seen filming inside the CP family's Skaugum home while riding around on a Segway. Photos show Marius driving rough and denting a car on the Skaugum property.
That Mette-Marit is familiar with some Marius' friends is substantiated by a visit when she was at home in Skaugum. Several people from Marius' circle were present, including members of the Hells Angels. Se og Hør asked the Palace if there were any concerns on the part of the CP couple about having such guests.
www.seher.no

Stjal fra kronprinsparets bolig

Verdier forsvant etter sønnens ville fester og medlemmer fra en beryktet motorsykkel-bande ble tatt imot av Mette-Marit. Nå slår sikkerhets-ekspert alarm.
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Så Marius drove like mad, banged the car and almost hit a guardsman on duty and that was back in 2020 and the CP couple didn't know? And no one filed a report?
How difficult would it be to deny Marius and friends access to a guarded property?
That means Marius has been a genuine problem for at least four years!
I don't know how Haakon and MM will talk their way out of this.
What's next?
Cocaine hidden away inside Skaugum?
Corpses buried in the backyard?
This is rapidly getting so bad it's downrigt depressing.
 
I’ll never not be amazed when people who are trained to lead and serve turn out to be such poor judge of characters or sit idly by while fire is set to their houses and damage their reputation.
 
Muhler said:
Så Marius drove like mad, banged the car and almost hit a guardsman on duty and that was back in 2020 and the CP couple didn't know? And no one filed a report?
How difficult would it be to deny Marius and friends access to a guarded property?
That means Marius has been a genuine problem for at least four years!
I don't know how Haakon and MM will talk their way out of this.
What's next?
Cocaine hidden away inside Skaugum?
Corpses buried in the backyard?
This is rapidly getting so bad it's downrigt depressing.
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Yes, what will we hear next in this case?

Marius lives at the red house on the right of this photo:
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Se og Hør's editor-in-chief Ulf André Andersen writes at his chronicle among other things:
Marius has had dealings with serious criminals, whom he has even taken to Skaugum, behind guards and barricades. It is deeply disturbing. And the crown prince couple's apparent passivity in the situation is worrying.
Marius' problem also seems to have affected Ingrid Alexandra, who in her 18th birthday interview highlighted Marius as a role model and highlighted his loyalty to friends. His influence on her is worrying. Then IA was probably aware of much of what was going on around Marius. Her words of loyalty to him therefore have extra meaning. It's known that there have been discussions in the family about Marius' circle of friends, and her speech can be interpreted as a statement of support.
(..)
www.seher.no

- Marius må flytte fra Skaugum

Lojalitet til familien er naturlig, men kronprinsparet må også vise lojalitet til sitt ansvar. Kongelig sikkerhet er ikke et personlig valg.
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Guri Ofstad Varpe, head of communications at the Royal Court, said to Se og Hør today:
- Security around the Crown Prince family is well taken care of. We don't want to go into specific measures or individual situations related to the security of the royal properties.

This statement seems quite ridiculous now.

Muhler said:
So Marius was right: The police protects him. (I.e. do nothing.) And the press don't write anything.
But once again the arrow points towards Haakon and Mette Marit.
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The more reports of Marius' behaviour comes out to the press now, the more I wonder, how all this can have been kept out from the media for so long? There are so many people who must have known about it.
On the other hand, I now understand better why Mette-Marit and Haakon hired a "gangster lawyer".

Nettavisen picked up a member of the Parliament (Conservative Party) Mahmoud Farahmand's statements in Se og Hør. He has background as an intelligence officer in the Armed Forces and manager of security and emergency services at the consulting firm BDO.
He says the royal house and the CP family enjoy great respect and trust in the society. It's quite clear that these criminals have gained increased social capital by being part of the network and social circle of Marius. He is very concerned about Marius' contact with criminals, in view of "national security".
He has extra sympathy for the offended in the cases of Marius' circle of friends. Through their actions, some of these people have caused harm and ruined life to many people. That these now have access to the CP family and are considered friends of a member of the CP family must be provocative and possibly insulting to the victims.
www.nettavisen.no

Mener kriminelle venner «tjener» på Høiby-vennskap

– Noen av disse menneskene har gjennom sine handlinger påført mangfoldige mennesker skade og et ødelagt liv.
www.nettavisen.no www.nettavisen.no

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Marius has been interrogated again, Se og Hør tells. He is said to have been confronted with the new charges and to have been asked to explain about a number of different episodes of violence to which he can be linked.
So far, neither the police nor Marius' lawyer have said how he stands up to the new charges, or whether he has pleaded guilty to anything. If he is found guilty, he risks up to six years in prison.
The police will not say whether Marius has been interrogated on Monday.
- I cannot confirm that, writes press chief at the Oslo Police District, Unni T. Grøndal in a text message to Se og Hør.
www.seher.no

Konfrontert med nye anklager

Se og Hør kan nå avsløre at Marius Borg Høiby har vært i nytt avhør med politiet.
www.seher.no www.seher.no

In VG, different scenarios what can happen:
The way forward
The police are investigating several matters and have brought charges against Marius Borg Høiby. Going forward, several different scenarios can play out.
www.vg.no

Veien videre for Marius Borg Høiby

Marius Borg Høiby er siktet for vold mot en kvinne i en leilighet på Frogner. Marius har innrømmet vold i alkohol og kokainrus. Dette er veien videre for kronprinsessens sønn.
www.vg.no www.vg.no

Se og Hør publishes a new clip of the conversation Marius had with the two polices. The police talks about the role to which Marius was born and has been, with her mother becoming the crown princess and about having half-siblings with the roles they have.
Se og Hør asked the police if this is a common approach in such conversations and if they want to explain the background for such jargon. Press manager Unni T. Grøndal in an email: the police has no comments.
www.seher.no

«En alminnelig gutt med et sjukt vedheng»

Politispaneren mener Marius Borg Høiby er «født inn i en fucka rolle». Her er det sjokkerende klippet.
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Se og Hør about the petrol card stolen from Skaugum:
This petrol card was issued to "The Royal Court", but was used by unauthorized persons for about a year, according to Se og Hør's sources. Neither the court nor the crown prince couple discovered that the card was used by unauthorized persons.
www.seher.no

Stjal Slottets bensinkort

Under en av de ville festene Marius hadde hjemme i kronprinsparets bolig på Skaugum, ble det stjålet et bensinkort. Men det ble ikke sperret ...
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Nora Haukland was interrogated for the second time today. Her lawyer John Christian Elden confirms this to Aftenposten:
- The interrogations were about the previous conditions she has explained about related to physical and mental abuse from her former partner.
Now she was also questioned about the threat case. A man was arrested and detained last week for threatening Haukland, as well as 19 other threats. Elden says that Nora is reassured that the accused has been remanded in custody. There is no reason to assume that the accused in this case has any connection to Marius Borg Høiby.
www.nettavisen.no

Nora Haukland var i nytt avhør onsdag

Gjennomførte sitt andre avhør med politiet.
www.nettavisen.no www.nettavisen.no
www.aftenposten.no

Siktelsen mot Marius Borg Høiby: Nora Haukland har vært i nytt avhør onsdag

Haukeland har på nytt forklart seg om fysisk og psykisk vold fra kronprinsessens sønn. Det bekrefter Hauklands advokat John Christian Elden overfor Aftenposten.
www.aftenposten.no www.aftenposten.no

Nora Haukland wrote in her Snapchat that she really struggles with sleep and just working as a normal influencer and normal being. She is not quite "on top of her game". She wants to make it so much better, but she can't right now. She does not hide that the last few days have been difficult. She just lies and stares at the ceiling. I've been listening to "What Was I Made For", by Billie Eilish, and she is kind of tearful, but she can't cry.
Her lawyer says there is a lot of pressure on her now.
www.nettavisen.no

Nora Haukland deler åpent: – Sliter med å holde hodet over vann

Influenseren åpner opp om søvnproblemer.
www.nettavisen.no www.nettavisen.no

Juliane Snekkestad told in 2022 about her and Marius' break up to the media with a text message: "Marius Borg Høiby and I have separated. And I feel much better now". The wording gets a different meaning now.

On the night of August 4, a message arrived in the inbox on Instagram for a man in his 20s. The police believe it was Marius who sent it. The content was short: "You are a f**king dead man".
Nettavisen has got access to the message. It has been confirmed that it is this that the police believe forms the basis for opening a case against Marius for death threats. The man has not wanted to get legal assistance. He didn't report the message, the police opened a case on their own initiative.
The police believe that Marius sent the death threat from his registered address in Skaugum, where he lives in a residence in close proximity to the CP couple. The message is said to have been sent after a private conflict.
Police prosecutor Andreas Kruszewski doesn't comment on details of the investigation and Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien doesn't want to comment.
www.nettavisen.no

Opplysninger til Nettavisen: Høiby skal ha sendt drapstrussel til mann midt på natten

Ifølge politiet skal Marius Borg Høiby ha sendt meldingen fra sitt hjem på Skaugum, hvor han bor i nærheten av boligen til kronprinsparet.
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Chimene said:
I’ll never not be amazed when people who are trained to lead and serve turn out to be such poor judge of characters or sit idly by while fire is set to their houses and damage their reputation.
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Chimene: I’m with you on this. Whenever I hear that a particular “leader” doesn’t like “confrontation”, I think that person should not be in the leadership role. Confronting a problem very likely will minimize the damage. Not dealing with an issue simply allows it to grow and ultimately still has to be dealt with.
 
I don’t think we should collectively put everyone over the top of the hill just because they happen to be members of Hells Angels… Not everyone is cruising around on their motorcycle with the aim to beat up and kill people…..

My problem is Marius own behaviour and what it looks more and more like to be, an operation from in the best case only MM and Haakon, and in the worst case the King and the senior courtiers, to sweep everything Marius does under the carpet and trying to prevent it from reaching media….

I also wonder why it has been so difficult to just kick Marius out of the Skaugum Estate for behavioural issues ? He is a commoner, a private citizen according to both himself and his mother so let him live like us commoners then ! Skaugum is a ”Royal” Estate wich means he should not be allowed to live there since he became old enough to not live with his mother anymore…

I wonder how on mother earth MM and Haakon will get out of this without at the very least having to testify under oath in court….

But i also would not be surprised if they somehow someway doesn’t have to…. Royals are not treated ”like me and you” and never has…
 
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I’ll never not be amazed when people who are trained to lead and serve turn out to be such poor judge of characters or sit idly by while fire is set to their houses and damage their reputation.
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I've tried to give the family the benefit of the doubt, but as the evidence and charges multiply that is increasingly hard to do. I'm very sad about the state of things in Norway.
 
I can no longer get my head around what is happening.

Four years ago Marius and friends basically thrashed Skaugum, not his own house, the CP residence!.
Silver ware went missing. A petrol card was stolen. I don't know about the rest of you but petrol cards and such usually don't lie around in our home. They are at the very least in a drawer somewhere. So that means that Marius friends (who don't do anything bad, while he's around, according to Marius) must have looked in every drawer and cupboard that wasn't bolted shut inside Skaugum.
If my (adult, Marius must have been 22-23 years old) son thrashed my home while I was away, he would be banned for life from ever being allowed alone inside my home again. That means I can't trust him.
Not only that I would be mortified if I were Haakon and MM. They have employees who have to clean up the mess and there are guardsmen who have trained hard for months to get the honor of turning out in their finest to guard my home and my family - only to witness this ape-like behavior and almost being run over. It's toe-curlingly embarrassing!
And from the picture I can see that Marius home is almost on the doorstep of Skaugum, certainly within sound-range. So they will be able to hear when he is having parties (I doubt they are quiet!) and hear Marius and his friends shouting like the apes they are. And Haakon and MM did nothing? That's perfectly acceptable behavior - on their bill?

As far as I am concerned there is no way Haakon and Mette-Marit can plead ignorance any more. Even if both of them were both blind and deaf I wouldn't believe them.
So the conclusion is that they have and still tolerate Marius behavior. And when you keep tolerating such behavior, it must be because they find it somehow acceptable. After all, in contrast to normal people, they have the opportunity and means to remove the problem. I.e. kick Marius out of Skaugum if he and his friends don't behave.
And while we are at it: While it is probably possible to find HA bikers who press flowers and write poetry, I doubt they are found among Marius friends.

I find it very difficult to defend MM and Haakon. I don't know whether MM somehow has convinced herself that Marius is just playing around and it's harmless fun, given her own background, but why hasn't Haakon stepped in? Unless Haakon is in complete agreement with his wife, he must be the most spineless royal in Christendom.

And as has been pointed out how about Ingrid and Magnus? They simply would have no way of not knowing what wild partying went on at Marius place. Do they think this behavior is normal as well? Do they find drugs harmless? Do they believe that associating with questionable people is acceptable? If so, congratulations Haakon and MM, you not only failed with Marius, you failed as parents for Ingrid and Magnus as well.

I mean on what planet can the behavior Marius has, be acceptable? Have they totally lost sense of perception? Are they high too on the weekends at Skaugum? (I wouldn't be surprised by now!) Do they think they live in a hippie commune in 1968? Or have they become so entitled that they don't even care anymore?

I have so far believed that the monarchy in Norway would survive this crisis, albeit seriously beaten up. But with Haakon as the next king I'm no longer sure.
 
I absolutely agree with you, Muhler - it is obvious now that H and MM had to know what was going on. It is mortifyingly embarrassing. From everything I’ve read, it sounds like MM has perhaps been so concerned about Marius’ “status” ( or lack thereof) while growing up that she has enabled a lot of this behavior by letting him do whatever he wants.
But Haakon??? As you said, spineless or I thought he was maybe thinking this is “boys will be boys” behavior? At 16 maybe but at 27? I vote spineless.

Looking back at Harald and Sonja, I certainly understand and respect why they wanted their children to have choices they weren’t given when they wanted to marry and how that affected them. So perhaps in their parenting they were a bit too permissive which has led to this “do whatever you want to do” attitude of H and ML - please hear I’m not blaming Harald and Sonja for all of this, but the choices their children have made have turned out to be a hot mess!
Marius obviously believes he is above the law due to the “agreements” he says he has. He desperately needs some tough love, rehab, and really good therapy. IMHO the CP family could use some family therapy too to make sure that IA and Magnus learn from all the mistakes as well as strategies for MM and H to parent their adult children effectively which means to stop coddling a 27 year old man!
Has there been anything written about Marius’ bio father in all of this? How did Marius meet these criminals?

I am sorry to say I find it hard to imagine that anyone could respect H and MM on the throne. Also, it feels untoward/fake to me that they are continuing with engagements without saying something appropriate about the situation with Marius.

And I thought that ML and Durek were the worst problems… :nonono:
 
Two photos, lifted from LadyFinn's posts.
The first pic show Skaugum. With Marius home in the upper right corner.
Notice the white sentry box in lower right side of the pic and the white fence along the road to the bottom right of the photo.

Then take a look at the second photo. This is from October last year. The footage is a friend of Marius. Marius filmed himself doing 91 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. As you can see he hit a fence. That fence looks like the one I pointed out above. And he must have closely missed the sentry box - and the sentry - I also pointed out.
The caption to the second photo, the one by a friends reads: "And Marius is out."
And Marius, as the honorary Mensa-member he obviously is, filmed his own driving and posted it online, with the text: "Almost took out a guardsman as well." (Roughly translated.) Followed by two laughing and one crying smiley.

Marius was reported to the police for hazardous driving. But four days later gave up the case due to "lack of evidence." (Bevisets stilling = means lack of evidence or lack of sufficient evidence.)

Now, with Marius himself filming his driving and speed and posting and admitting that online, with a friend and witness posting a photo and naming Marius - what is most believable:
A) That there really was insufficient evidence (the witness statement of the sentry on duty included) to press charges against Marius.
B) That someone "persuaded" the police not to go further.

So Marius was right: The police protects him. (I.e. do nothing.) And the press don't write anything.
But once again the arrow points towards Haakon and Mette Marit.
 
Muhler said:
Two photos, lifted from LadyFinn's posts.
The first pic show Skaugum. With Marius home in the upper right corner.
Notice the white sentry box in lower right side of the pic and the white fence along the road to the bottom right of the photo.

Then take a look at the second photo. This is from October last year. The footage is a friend of Marius. Marius filmed himself doing 91 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. As you can see he hit a fence. That fence looks like the one I pointed out above. And he must have closely missed the sentry box - and the sentry - I also pointed out.
The caption to the second photo, the one by a friends reads: "And Marius is out."
And Marius, as the honorary Mensa-member he obviously is, filmed his own driving and posted it online, with the text: "Almost took out a guardsman as well." (Roughly translated.) Followed by two laughing and one crying smiley.

Marius was reported to the police for hazardous driving. But four days later gave up the case due to "lack of evidence." (Bevisets stilling = means lack of evidence or lack of sufficient evidence.)

Now, with Marius himself filming his driving and speed and posting and admitting that online, with a friend and witness posting a photo and naming Marius - what is most believable:
A) That there really was insufficient evidence (the witness statement of the sentry on duty included) to press charges against Marius.
B) That someone "persuaded" the police not to go further.

So Marius was right: The police protects him. (I.e. do nothing.) And the press don't write anything.
But once again the arrow points towards Haakon and Mette Marit.
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Muhler, thanks for this but I don’t see the second photo of Marius driving. But when I clicked on the link from seher.no I saw a video of the inside of a home with MM’s photos on a bench? Can you please say something about this? :flowers:
 
wow wow.
So now Marius and friends stole from the NRF which is stealing from the taxpayers. Stealing the company credit card and Haakon and MM did nothing?
Marius now puts the guards life in danger and Haakon and MM did nothing? imagine a little to the left and we would have a dead guardsman.
Haakon and MM need to apologize to the taxpayers and the guardsmen and their families.
This is years now. Not just something that happened last month.
They think they are above the law.

That Marius has abused multiple girlfriends in multiple years, and Haakon and MM can just smile and say what a close family they are.

Now the media is even questioning Ingrid-Alexandra's judgement? All because of Marius.
 
Hans-Rickard said:
I don’t think we should collectively put everyone over the top of the hill just because they happen to be members of Hells Angels… Not everyone is cruising around on their motorcycle with the aim to beat up and kill people…..

My problem is Marius own behaviour and what it looks more and more like to be, an operation from in the best case only MM and Haakon, and in the worst case the King and the senior courtiers, to sweep everything Marius does under the carpet and trying to prevent it from reaching media….

I also wonder why it has been so difficult to just kick Marius out of the Skaugum Estate for behavioural issues ? He is a commoner, a private citizen according to both himself and his mother so let him live like us commoners then ! Skaugum is a ”Royal” Estate wich means he should not be allowed to live there since he became old enough to not live with his mother anymore…

I wonder how on mother earth MM and Haakon will get out of this without at the very least having to testify under oath in court….

But i also would not be surprised if they somehow someway doesn’t have to…. Royals are not treated ”like me and you” and never has…
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I don’t know the answer to all of your questions, but I imagine that, in the worst case scenario, the CP couple’s immunity under Article 37 might protect them from having to testify under oath, but I am not sure.

On the broader issue, the damage has been done already and is irreversible since it is clear that the CP couple has been covering up for Marius for several years and effectively enabling his behavior. All they can do now is limit the damage and that has to start by cutting Marius off completely. And, if MM in particular cannot accept casting Marius away, then I am afraid I agree with Blog Real that she must go too.

Otherwise, I am not sure there will be a throne for Haakon or Ingrid to inherit.
 
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Royal Court’s have been experts in all times to cover up things to protect their members…

But by ”members” every european royal house except the norwegian has meant everyone carrying the title of ”King, Queen, Prince, and Princess”…

In this case, it has been about someone who is not born royal, not in the line of succession, not expected to do anything with or on behalf of the royal family - and yet has been officially considered a member of a reigning dynasty from 2001 and up until a couple of weeks ago….

If the Norwegian Royal Court by officially considering Marius as a member of the Royal Family tried to show a ”modern solution” in a time where divorced families becomes more and more common - it ended with a catastrophic result….

King Harald should have taken note from UK and have drawn the line clear… Tom Parker Bowles and Laura Lopes has never been considered members of the royal family and has never been treated as such…

I sometimes wonder if Mette-Marit protects Marius so hard that noone around her simply doesn’t dare to say anything…. I really hope it isn’t so because that’s certainly not how i have perceived her… But after this i no longer knows…
 
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First, many thanks to @LadyFinn for the links, summaries, and translations! Your hard work is allowing those of us who can't view those pages to learn the latest. Much appreciated!

The most concerning thing I read is about the Hell's Angels being at Skaugum and meeting with MM. I have to disagree with those who say some in the group might not be so bad. It's identified as an organized crime group by multiple countries. (The Netherlands even banned it entirely.) Anyone who is a member of a recognized organized crime gang is a criminal, either by committing crimes or through association.

I'm sort of at the point where it's "three strikes, you're out!" for Mette-Marit. She entered the marriage with admitted associations with drugs and criminals, including Marius' father. She associated with Jeffrey Epstein multiple times AFTER his conviction for sex-trafficking minors. Now, she's meeting with members of an international organized crime biker gang in her home. (And all that doesn't even include possibly enabling Marius.)

This certainly doesn't point to an upstanding citizen with good judgement. Nor does it speak very well of Haakon's judgement. Or the king's.

This situation is dire. I'm beginning to think that those who think Haakon will be out of the succession -- or that he and MM will have to divorce -- may be right.
 
It's getting worse every day, I am speechless. About the "Hell's Angles" I have only heard and read that their members are a threat to society. Several murder cases here where I live were committed by their group. They are not harmless, not at all. Anybody who associates with that group should know what he is into. I have never ever heard that they are engaging in social activities.
 
I'm now questioning Haakon and Mette-Marit's suitability as a future King and Queen. If they cannot manage their own household, how will they manage the Kingdom of Norway.

I've never believed that Haakon and Mette-Marit were ignorant of Marius' bad behavior. In fact they probably know alot more and we're just starting to see that come out. What is worse are all those time Mette-Marit spoke up and out in defense of Marius and reminding the public that he is not a public figure. Yet knowing what was going on behind closed doors. Shameful really!
 
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