Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

[Tatiana Maria]

Nora Haukland and Marius were together last year.
She writes that Marius hit her in the face with his fist. Kicked her and grabbed her throat as in a suffocating hold.
The worst part was him shouting and threatening her.
She writes that her apartment was vandalized and that he broke things in her mother's home as well.
He also promised to get help when they broke up.
- Al that can be read on her Snapchat account.

Nye voldsanklager mod Marius: 'Han har slået mig i ansigtet med knytnæve'

Skeletterne fortsætter med at vælte ud af skabet for kronprinsesse Mette-Marits søn, Marius Borg Høiby, hvor endnu en ekskæreste nu står frem med voldsanklager.

www.bt.dk

Her statement is also in this post: Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

This is a bad joke and perhaps unfair, but when King Harald asked Haakon “is there more?”, it seems like nobody knew the “more” would actually be Marius… unless he was already having issues quite young.

It’s sad.

Unfortunately, this may very well discourage future monarchs, and monarchs in other countries, from fully incorporating stepchildren like Marius into the official royal family as King Harald V did during Marius's childhood. Which would be unfairly stigmatizing, I think (after all, it is not as if blood royal children are somehow less likely to grow up to commit domestic abuse).

 

[Prinsara]

Unfortunately, this may very well discourage future monarchs, and monarchs in other countries, from fully incorporating stepchildren like Marius into the official royal family as King Harald V did during Marius's childhood. Which would be unfairly stigmatizing, I think (after all, it is not as if blood royal children are somehow less likely to grow up to commit domestic abuse).

Well, at least some of the issues with Marius seem to be he was either not incorporated enough (treated differently than his half-siblings and given a different status and no responsibilities; the ‘spare’ problem with a twist) or, if his health and behavioral issues were apparent from some early age, then it seemed to be everyone’s (at least MM’s) wish that he not be subject to the same scrutiny.

It’s hard to say what the better course of action is here, especially if Marius had problems while small, but until this exploded, the NRF appeared to have dealt with having a royal stepchild in a fairly reasonable, empathetic manner.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Yeah, one of them here in DK Peter Lundin, after being deported from USA where he killed his mother. Found a single mother here in DK. Murdered her and her two boys.
He's a lifer now, and yet he has been attempting to manipulate other "fans". IIRC one of them married (and divorced) him.
Do you recall the guy who build a submarine and killed a Swedish journalist aboard the submarine? He's a lifer too and a good friend of Peter Lundin. He too has been caught trying to manipulate "fans".
These two and others like them have been caught bragging about how they pass time and amuse themselves by manipulating their "fans". Prison staff have reported how they got loads of love-letters
There is a reason why prisoners of this severe category, now have restrictions on visits, mail and contact with random people here in DK.

Now, I'm not comparing Marius to these total psychos. That's not necessary. Marius will have no problems whatsoever in finding new girlfriends. I am seriously willing to bet you a years salary on that claim. It's sure money in my pocket.
Marius is good looking, a member of the NRF, famous, probably charming and fun. Many will seek him out because they believe they can "save" him and turn him around. Others will believe he has been treated unfairly and have sympathy for him. Other because he will be a desirable mark on their bedpost. Some will genuinely fall in love with him. Others will find him alluring because he has been abusive, the element of danger and excitement.

Horrible cases we all know of because they made international headlines. What was always very strange to me is the fact that there were people, especially women who knew of all this and still got into a relationship with such a dangerous person. This is not normal IMO, those women must have their own psychological problems somehow in being attracted to such a person. Any human being who is sane and stable would absolutely keep their distance from such a person, and especially not getting into a love affair.
I am glad that his ex girlfriends are going public, they should have done it a while ago, maybe other girlfriends would have been spared the pain.

 

[Princess_Eleanor]

Unfortunately at this point, it is no surprise that Marius abused Nora as well. It seems to be what he does with all of his girlfriends, which means he has been doing this for a long time with no consequences...

These new revelations and details that Nora gives make me wonder if the CP Couple has truly known nothing at all about his violence up to now. He apparently makes a habit of trashing people's (well actually women's!) apartments and houses. Nora's apartment, Nora's mother's house and his recent ex girlfriend's apartment - that's 3 places and it honestly makes me wonder how many other places he might have trashed! It is in my opinion not unlikely that he has damaged things at Skaugum as well if for him that is frequent behaviour....
Unfortunately it also raises the question of whether the CP couple has ever paid for damage that Marius has caused in other people's houses?

Finally, the NRF need to be very careful about potential negative influence of Marius on his younger siblings Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus. Particularly Ingrid Alexandra since Marius apparently has zero respect for women!!
The drugs are also an issue of course, in my opinion they cannot be careful enough in preventing Marius from offering drugs like cocaine to his younger siblings or taking them along to drug fueled parties! I know Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus are now adults, but they are a) still young and b) the future of the monarchy.
I think it's very good that Ingrid Alexandra is at military training in Northern Norway right now, where except for holidays she is far away from Marius, his drugs and bad behaviour.

I think it's very good that Juliane and Nora exhibit such solidarity for one another. That's how abusers are called out, when the women they have abused stand together and bravely speak out!
I hope they, as well as the third victim of course, get all the help and support they need. It is something that is very difficult to recover from and honestly I feel bad that they were painted as silly influencers/ models for so long, when from their statements you can see that they are intelligent and very empathetic women, who were given no empathy by Marius in return. And who were so badly abused by him, while people were saying that they are not the right type of girl for Marius to date... Well, we can now see that actually they are great girls and it was Marius who did not deserve them at all!

 

[moby]

Horrible cases we all know of because they made international headlines. What was always very strange to me is the fact that there were people, especially women who knew of all this and still got into a relationship with such a dangerous person. This is not normal IMO, those women must have their own psychological problems somehow in being attracted to such a person. Any human being who is sane and stable would absolutely keep their distance from such a person, and especially not getting into a love affair.
I am glad that his ex girlfriends are going public, they should have done it a while ago, maybe other girlfriends would have been spared the pain.

While the women speaking out before would have been ideal, it's not easy to speak out even against non-famous boyfriends, how much more against an abuser who is the stepson of the Crown Prince of Norway. They are also very young, and nobody wants that kind of stigma to follow them around for the rest of their lives. It seems even in this case with the victim, it was a friend who called the police and opened the floodgates on this issue. These young women are very brave for speaking out, regardless of when they decided to do so.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Oh yes, your are right , I didn't take that into consideration when writing my comment. It does take a lot of courage to go public

 

[Mbruno]

Unfortunately at this point, it is no surprise that Marius abused Nora as well. It seems to be what he does with all of his girlfriends, which means he has been doing this for a long time with no consequences...

These new revelations and details that Nora gives make me wonder if the CP Couple has truly known nothing at all about his violence up to now. He apparently makes a habit of trashing people's (well actually women's!) apartments and houses. Nora's apartment, Nora's mother's house and his recent ex girlfriend's apartment - that's 3 places and it honestly makes me wonder how many other places he might have trashed! It is in my opinion not unlikely that he has damaged things at Skaugum as well if for him that is frequent behaviour....
Unfortunately it also raises the question of whether the CP couple has ever paid for damage that Marius has caused in other people's houses?

Finally, the NRF need to be very careful about potential negative influence of Marius on his younger siblings Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus. Particularly Ingrid Alexandra since Marius apparently has zero respect for women!!
The drugs are also an issue of course, in my opinion they cannot be careful enough in preventing Marius from offering drugs like cocaine to his younger siblings or taking them along to drug fueled parties! I know Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus are now adults, but they are a) still young and b) the future of the monarchy.
I think it's very good that Ingrid Alexandra is at military training in Northern Norway right now, where except for holidays she is far away from Marius, his drugs and bad behaviour.

I think it's very good that Juliane and Nora exhibit such solidarity for one another. That's how abusers are called out, when the women they have abused stand together and bravely speak out!
I hope they, as well as the third victim of course, get all the help and support they need. It is something that is very difficult to recover from and honestly I feel bad that they were painted as silly influencers/ models for so long, when from their statements you can see that they are intelligent and very empathetic women, who were given no empathy by Marius in return. And who were so badly abused by him, while people were saying that they are not the right type of girl for Marius to date... Well, we can now see that actually they are great girls and it was Marius who did not deserve them at all!

Well, Ingrid Alexandra praised Marius on her 18th birthday speech and thanked him for always protecting her. So it would appear to me that whatever opinion or image she might have of her half-brother, it is very different from the picture that has been drawn by Marius’ ex-girlfriends.

 

[Prinsara]

Particularly Ingrid Alexandra since Marius apparently has zero respect for women!!

What Ingrid said about her brother as of a couple years ago:

Marius,
Thank you for everything I have learned from you, and for being able to talk to me about everything.

Which now probably has a few more layers to it.

Thank you for always being there to protect me.

Which is immensely sad — but also shows she was obviously in a different “category”. And that Marius was/is perhaps able to be better depending on what’s going on.

 

[Princess_Eleanor]

I find it even more worrying that Ingrid Alexandra saw/ maybe still sees Marius as someone to learn things from, someone to look up to.

Maybe he has more respect for her than his girlfriends, but I am not 100% sure. Just because he can be nice and fun at times, does not mean he doesn't behave badly at other times. That's typical of abusers like him and with his apparently frequent violent outbursts, I still wonder whether none of that ever happened at Skaugum and in front of his mother, stepfather and siblings.

And then there is his cocaine use, which is a terrible thing for a future Queen, but also Sverre Magnus to be exposed to. I sincerely hope he has not and will not offer it to them, and has not taken them to drug parties, but if I were the NRF I would be doing everything possible to prevent this from happening. Yes, he is their brother but he is also a potentially very bad influence, unfortunately.

 

[HenRach Dominion]

You would think that Marius wouldn't want a guy to treat his sister like he treats his girlfriends and therefore wouldn't treat them like that, but for whatever reason (substance abuse, mental illness, general chauvinism/misogyny, just being a jerk, etc...), he doesn't conceptualize that women not directly related to him deserve to be protected as well.

 

[Biri]

May Juliane Snekkestad also be summoned?

 

[polyesco]

"Marius Borg Høiby (27) surrounds himself - according to Dagbladet - with friends on whom the police have long had the spotlight. Some will also be convicted of crime, writes Dagbladet.
Several of Marius' friends are said to have also visited Skaugum, when Marius lived in the main building together with Crown Princess Mette-Marit (50), Crown Prince Haakon (51), Princess Ingrid Alexandra (20) and Prince Sverre Magnus (19)."

Kobles til kriminelle

Kronprinsessens eldste sønn skal ha pleiet omgang med dømte kriminelle i Oslos underverden.

www.seher.no

It's hard to believe the NRF were not aware of many things around Marius.
Juliane was the girlfriend for years and was close enough to the family to be invited to Ingrid and Sverre's confirmations and Ari's funeral. I have seen photos of Nora and Marius hanging out with Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus.
Marius living in the Crown Prince couple's estate. Certainly the crown prince couple cannot be blamed but a pattern of enabling his "lifestyle" is clear.

I hope all the victims find their voices to come forward and are not intimidated or influence by anyone in positions of power and high standing.

 

[Muhler]

You would think that Marius wouldn't want a guy to treat his sister like he treats his girlfriends and therefore wouldn't treat them like that, but for whatever reason (substance abuse, mental illness, general chauvinism/misogyny, just being a jerk, etc...), he doesn't conceptualize that women not directly related to him deserve to be protected as well.

I think you and others have hit the nail.
I believe that Marius in his own distorted macho self-image may consider Ingrid as his sister that he must protect and look after - regardless of whether she wants to or not or is perfectly capable of looking after herself or not. As such I can easily imagine him going off on someone who in Marius eyes, show a little too much interest for Ingrid or who in his eyes don't treat her right. Including a boyfriend of hers. - That would be logic and normal behavior for a self-appointed alpha male. Ingrid is not a part of his harem as such, but she may very well be within his sphere of - direct - influence.
Anyway at a celebration it's normal to say something nice about people, including Marius. Even if the family may quietly behind closed doors consider him a problem.

Nora Haukland has been called in for questioning by the police, according to her lawyer:

Nora Haukland innkalt til politiavhør

Politiet i Oslo har nå kalt inn Marius Borg Høibys ekskjæreste Nora Haukland til politiavhør.

www.dagbladet.no

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I don't think anyone can disagree that this is bad for the NRF.
It must rank among the nightmare scenarios that can keep monarchs awake at night.
It is of course not the worst scenario, at least Marius hasn't been accused of raping anyone (yet).
Above this one are the scenarios of a key member of a royal family murdering or trying to kill someone. Killing or maiming someone while DUI or speeding. Beating someone to a pulp during a brawl or a fit of rage etc.
So far in recent time (past 50 years) most royal families have had instances of speeding, adultery, very entitled behavior, associating with the wrong people, being involved in corruption and similar. And in some countries such examples, while being wrong, isn't necessarily considered that immoral or extraordinary.
While each example listed here are bad enough, they haven't directly hurt someone and done it repeatedly, which is a considerable difference.

But statistically speaking something like this was bound to happen within a royal family somewhere at some point. The NRF just pulled the short straw on this one. - And something similar will happen within another royal family at some point in the not too distant future, say within the next generation.

As has been pointed out in this thread, even the most caring, attentive and loving parents and families can have a black sheep.
So IMO we cannot necessarily blame the NRF for having a Marius.
We may however find reasons to blame them for being over-indulgent, or trying to sweep things under the carpet, turning a blind eye, or worse: Trying to cover it up, using their influence.
That remains to be seen. And that's where it could get seriously dangerous for the NRF.

One black sheep who cause a major scandal is unfortunate. Three black sheep who continue to make a spectacle of themselves is mismanagement. So I'd suggest that the NRF seriously rein in all three, Marius, ML and her Durak, and keep them in a very short leash.

 

[Mbruno]

John Christian Elden, Nora Haukland's lawyer, confirms to Dagbladet that Nora has been summoned for police questioning, and will of course answer the police's questions, but has not filed a report herself. She has no other comments on the matter. For Nora, this is a closed chapter in her life, and she has moved on. She reacted spontaneously when she heard the explanation the accused gave, and came up with her story.

Nora Haukland innkalt til politiavhør

Politiet i Oslo har nå kalt inn Marius Borg Høibys ekskjæreste Nora Haukland til politiavhør.

www.dagbladet.no

- The police want to speak to Nora Haukland on the basis of her statements about Marius Borg Høiby. Beyond that, we have no comments in the case tonight, police inspector Henriette Taxt Røstadli writes in a text message to NTB.
Nora Haukland will be interviewed by the police next week.
Both Høiby and the offended woman in the case will be interviewed by the police next week.

Ekskjæresten til Marius Borg Høiby er innkalt til politiavhør

Ekskjæresten til Marius Borg Høiby, Nora Haukland, er innkalt til avhør etter at hun kom med uttalelser om han i sosiale medier, bekrefter politiet.

www.fvn.no

Dagbladet reveals a number of new information about the environment Marius has been in contact with, and partied with, for several years.
Dagbladet has been confirmed by sources that the police continuously investigate and assess the environment around the royal family, to assess whether anyone may pose a threat.
Around Marius there are rich heirs, reality celebrities and influencers. But there are also people convicted of dealing with cocaine and serious crime - and who have connections to the gang environment and the Hells Angels.

Did Haakon and MM know that Marius was hanging out with "people convicted of dealing with cocaine and serious crime - and who have connections to the gang environment"? If they did, someone in the Royal Household should have raised a red flag as any association with criminals could have a potential negative impact on the Royal Family's public image.

Furthermore, if Marius had a pattern of punching and suffocating his girlfriends and trashing their apartments, I find it hard to believe that his mother and stepfather were completely oblivious to those facts, especially considering that the girlfriends took part in different social events with the family.

The question is whether the CP couple were not just lenient with Marius, but were also covering up for him and, therefore, indirectly enabling the continuation of his violent behavior.

 

[Mirabel]

Yes, yes and yes. Absolutely.
I don't understand what kind of allure such people have but it is an undeniable fact that some of the worst criminals, murderers among them can pick and choose among their infatuated fan-base, which is considerable. Some of them even get married.

Very true.
I once read that Ted Bundy received 5,000 fan letters per week on average.

As for Marius, I'm not certain his case will negatively affect the RF. It's the old NATURE vs. NURTURE issue; people will probably just point to his biological father and attribute his behavior to that.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

I never believe in a million years that his family was completely in the dark about what was going on. This is serious, we all know what comes next after strangling and numerous women now coming forward paint a clear picture. Yes Marius is 27 and fully responsible for his actions but it is irresponsible from a public family with lots of money and offers for help in the background not to draw a line in the sand at some point. There is no way that the stepson on the future king of Norway is a serial girlfriend beater and a regular drug user without anyone in the RF knowing about this. At least there will have been rumors - was the family too naive to thoroughly follow up on them? It’s negligent behavior to let somebody float around hoping it will get better and now has backfired in a spectacular way.

 

[caethi]

Did Haakon and MM know that Marius was hanging out with "people convicted of dealing with cocaine and serious crime - and who have connections to the gang environment"? If they did, someone in the Royal Household should have raised a red flag as any association with criminals could have a potential negative impact on the Royal Family's public image.

Furthermore, if Marius had a pattern of punching and suffocating his girlfriends and trashing their apartments, I find it hard to believe that his mother and stepfather were completely oblivious to those facts, especially considering that the girlfriends took part in different social events with the family.

The question is whether the CP couple were not just lenient with Marius, but were also covering up for him and, therefore, indirectly enabling the continuation of his violent behavior.

The answer to these questions is unknown.

I offer the following caution: Marius is 27 years old. By all accounts he has been using illicit drugs for a long time. When faced with a family member like this, most families do not initially cut off the addict; instead they try to remain connected to encourage and support treatment and rehabilitation. It is true that there can be a fine line between enabling and support. The challenge is however, that that the adult person with an addiction, behaviour issues and perhaps serious mental disorder usually learns to hide their behaviours and/or avoid situations where they are likely to be caught. In most cases they cannot be legislated into treatment, unless they have a diagnosed mental illness AND they are a danger to themselves or others. Clearly Marius has severe issues--whether they are directly related to mental disorder, addiction, or personality problems remains to be seen. He is likely criminally responsible for his behaviour regardless of other factors, as it is very difficult to demonstrate that a person is not criminally responsible, even when the person has severe addiction or a psychotic disorder (and we don't know if Marius does). These are situations in which families struggle to intervene. There is only so much a family can do, even a family with resources and influence.

 

[Lady Daly]

" Statistics show while just 10 to 18 percent of those arrested for domestic violence are arrested again within six months, 15 to 30 percent face a second arrest within 28 months, and up to 60 percent are rearrested within 10 years. And it’s pretty safe to say these numbers only tell part of the story, considering most domestic violence is never reported to law enforcement."

Will Domestic Abuse Happen Again?

An isolated incident of abuse by a partner might have you questioning—will it happen again?

www.domesticshelters.org

Mette-Marit's father Sven Olaf Bjarte Hoiby history of alcoholism. 

Sven O. Høiby - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mette-Marit's background in her early years.

Mette-Marit, Crown Princess of Norway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hopefully the court will mandate a battered-reform program conducted by professionals trained in the dynamics of domestic abuse which is very different than mental health counseling.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Caethi, I fully agree to your statements. We all are speculating because of the bits of news that are published, none of us knows all persons involved personally nor do we know the problems they have gone thru during the last years with Marius.
I know from experience with relatives and friends that people like Marius are not stupid and very well know what to keep secret and hide from family or promise never to do it again. It might be his rescue that the woman went public so the dimension of his drug abuse, criminal acts, mental illness and whatever else is known or is still coming up, can be dealt with. I am really glad that so far none of his girlfriends has been killed, which could in the worst possible case have happened

 

[kalnel]

Well, Ingrid Alexandra praised Marius on her 18th birthday speech and thanked him for always protecting her. So it would appear to me that whatever opinion or image she might have of her half-brother, it is very different from the picture that has been drawn by Marius’ ex-girlfriends.

I remember her saying that, and I wondered at the time whether she meant he was "protective" or that she needed to be "protected." If it's the first, maybe he's just a big brother who tries to steer her away from problems. If it's the second, who is threatening her?

As far as the impact of this on the NRF, it's bad news, especially with the princess and the shaman getting married in a few days. Neither situation points to good parenting that develops sensible people with sound judgment.

 

[Curryong]

The article below is elderly but does explain the low rates of recidivism in Norway, and its prison system which concentrates on ‘restorative justice’ and treatment.

Why Norway's prison system is so successful

 

[LadyFinn]

VG has got the recordings of the two phone calls between Marius and the woman.
Everyone can use Google translator.
The two have had a relationship and the offended woman has also lived in Skaugum with Marius and the crown prince couple for a period during the year, according to VG's information.
Here's a part, Marius wants the woman to come and get her clothes:
Then the woman asks how she can get to him now, after what he had done the night before.
"After what I did to you last night? A little pat on the back. (...) Huh? Hit you with a flat hand. Huh? Hit you with a flat hand. », says Høiby.
The aggrieved woman replies that he hit her a hundred times, that he choked her at least five times so that she could not breathe, her throat hurts and she has a bump on her head, according to the conversation.
During the conversations, a third person is also the subject, which both Høiby and the offended woman know. Høiby says this person is scared.
- Because I'm going to kill him, says Høiby, and repeats that she has to get to him.

Voldssiktede Marius Borg Høiby i lydopptak: «Slo deg litt med flat hånd.»

I en telefonsamtale med den fornærmede kvinnen sier Marius Borg Høiby at han «klappet til» henne. Kvinnen selv beskriver gjentatte slag, flere kvelertak, pustevansker og kul i hodet.

www.vg.no

VG publiserer nye lydopptak i Høiby-saken

– Jeg slo deg litt med flat hånd.

www.nettavisen.no

VG publishes part of Marius' call to the woman, only Marius speaking:

Marius Borg Høiby truer kvinnen: Hør lydopptakene - VGTV

Nye lydopptak viser hvordan Marius Borg Høiby truer kvinnen.

www.vg.no

Prime minister Jonas Gahr Støre:
- I will not comment on the details of what we have now followed over the last few days, but it is a family with some very clear challenges, which also applies to a good number of other families in Norway. This family, unlike them, has to endure full floodlights on it. I can imagine that is a big burden. This is a moment where we stop and get to know that this is a family. And in families there are also challenges and problems, also in this family, says Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre to NTB.
The party leaders find the situation sad and praise the work the royal family is doing.

Støre om kongefamilien: - Helt klare utfordringer

Statsminister Jonas Gahr Støre (Ap) og de andre partilederne slår ring om kongehuset. De mener at monarkiet står støtt selv om det har stormet i det siste.

www.dagbladet.no

Several European newspapers have followed the media coverage heavily, including the DailyMail.
DailyMail journalist Nick Craven tells that he has traveled to Norway to cover the case in a way that is not possible to do from a distance.
He plans to carry out a so called"vox pop"on the streets of Norway, to capture ordinary Norwegians' view of the incident - a method MailOnline has used in many different situations around the world.
- To do that, we came here in person, as I have done in the last couple of years in places like Ukraine and Israel.

Derfor jager han Marius Borg Høiby

Daily Mail har reist til Norge for å komme tettere på Marius Borg Høiby.

www.nettavisen.no

Crown Princess Mette-Marit contacted the offended woman in the Marius Borg Høiby case. If the contact was punishable, it is the king who desices whether she should be punished.

Svigerfar avgjør om hun straffes

Kronprinsesse Mette-Marit tok kontakt med den fornærmede kvinnen i Marius Borg Høiby-saken. Hvis kontakten var straffbar, er det kongen som avgjør om hun skal straffes.

www.dagbladet.no

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How is the ´living at Skaugum´ to be interpreted?
He lives in the actual big house with his parents? Or -as it is an estate- will there be another property on the estate where he has an apartment? If he actually lives with his parents that would be rather odd for somebody his age and his parents' financial circumstances, in a Norwegian context?

The Norwegian press wrote in December 2022:
- Marius Borg Høiby disposes of one of the homes at Skaugum farm for a shorter period, writes communications manager for the Royal House, Guri Varpe, in an e-mail to VG.
According to VG newspaper, he has occupied one of the twelve housing units from which Skaugum farm receives rental income.
- We have no information about the private circumstances, communications manager Varpe writes to VG when asked about how much Borg Høiby pays in rent.

Marius Borg Høiby har flyttet til Skaugum

Kronprinsesse Mette-Marits eldste sønn har inntatt Asker igjen. Nå har Marius Borg Høiby (25) blitt nabo til kronprinsparets residens.

www.budstikka.no

 

[hereditarytitles]

It is getting worse all the time. I better go to bed with a good book and dream of nicer things.

 

[Muhler]

Oh dear, oh dear! That's bad!

Additional to LadyFinn's brilliant summary.
The article emphasize that Marius voice was clear and not slurry. Suggesting he was not so high or drunk that he hardly knew what he was saying. IN fact he might even have been quite sober, considering his rage.

He really has serious anger issues! It's not normal to be in this high level of anger for so long time. This must have been 10-12 hours after the episode in the apartment and he is still way up there. He should long since have fallen asleep and calmed down a bit.
Is is correct that long term use of cocaine leads to uncontrollable fits of anger and paranoia? (Paranoia was the word I was looking for.)

So it wasn't just one push, where the woman accidentally hit her head against something. And grabbing her throat can never be an accident. Especially as he is in the habit of doing that.
And that Marius does not consider slapping people to be an issue is very telling. It clearly indicated that whatever therapy he may have got and whatever dressing down or serious talk he may have had with his family, he didn't listen at all.
His arguments and threats also seem very childish to me and extremely immature.
He has no empathy at all IMO. Only for himself. (And probably those he believe are his responsibility.) In a sense Marius acts like a dog. If the owner is not the pack-leader, the dog will try and take over. Marius IMO don't consider his mother, his step dad and I dare say King Harald his "pack-leader."

If they don't do something about Marius this time and seriously re-program him, he will unavoidably at some point face a charge for aggravated assault, perhaps even attempted homicide.

 

[royalwatcher96]

It's getting worse and worse...
I long thought that Marius was a troubled young man but I could never imagine this kind of behaviour. He is really sinister! Now he is threatening to kill someone! Considering his violent outbursts you can not easily dismiss that threat, either. Just shocking!

 

[ladongas]

If he were my son, I would do everything I could to get him into serious inpatient therapy immediately.

But, let us remember, that persons who have mental illness have an illness that needs to be treated, just like other illnesses. And some can be treated, and cured, or at least rehabilitated to a level which enables them to lead a normal, wholesome life.

I’m unwilling to ‘give up’ on a 27 year old man.

And the women who are standing up are women to admire.

 

[Hans-Rickard]

As a swede who perfectly understands norwegian (swedish, norwegian and danish are very similar language’s) i’m reading all the new newspaper-articles that comes every day now with a growing sense of stunning disbelief…

Those transcripts of his phone calls sounds to me like it is a man of either longtime alcohol or/and substance dependence or someone with a complicated psychological diagnose of some sort who is arguing…. The way he argues is not a ”normal heated argument” for a person who does not have any problems at all…. His way of threatening her and talking about himself is so immature and sometimes even childish… On top of it all, he threatens to kill a 3:rd (male) person who they both seems to know, and may thus have put himself in even bigger problems…

People who have longtime alcohol dependency and/or substance dependency of some sort often argues this way when they are under pressure OR when someone tells them to stop doing what they are doing…

 

[kalnel]

Aside from all the stuff about Marius' behavior, the new recording raise two points: First, who lives at Skaugum? Is the crown prince couple in the habit of allowing Marius to move back in with his girlfriend du jour? I understand that the royal family owns the property, so it's not a state property, but this makes me wonder what goes on there. Again, this does not strike me as excellent judgment on the royal family's part.

Second, this does make MM's call to the victim more understandable. If she and this girl lived under the same roof for some time, they may have developed their own relationship beyond MM being Marius' mother.

 

[Royalty Observer]

Regarding Ingrid Alexandra's comments of Marius "beeing a protector" I have a somewhat different perspective but it comes from personal experience: If indeed Marius is acting as a protector for his hister is because he knows the type of men that exist in the world and that some women need to be protected from the mens in their lives

 

[Marengo]

How is the ´living at Skaugum´ to be interpreted?
He lives in the actual big house with his parents? Or -as it is an estate- will there be another property on the estate where he has an apartment? If he actually lives with his parents that would be rather odd for somebody his age and his parents' financial circumstances, in a Norwegian context?