Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 - February 2026

[hereditarytitles]

He must have serious mental problems; it's incomprehensible why his family lets him wander around alone. He could even be dangerous to his own family...

We have often discussed the topic of children turning out the way they do because their parents raised them poorly, were too lenient, or failed to teach them values. I am careful about such prejudices. You can be the best parents and do everything possible for your children, and yet some children still go off the rails, whether through drug abuse, the influence of negative friends, or genetic predisposition.
As we now know, there are people who are simply born with a gene that makes them dangerous and violent. Parents really can't help that. On the other hand, negligence, poor parenting, spoiling, or too little love can cause a person to go astray. There are many reasons.

Marius seems to me to be a case of someone who was probably difficult and mentally disturbed from childhood. You don't become such a violent, misogynistic, criminal monster overnight. It takes time to develop. And in this case, you can blame the parents for not making an effort years ago to get their son into psychiatric treatment.
Although, even that is sometimes difficult with our liberal laws, because you can't admit someone to a secure clinic against their will. That only happens when other people have been killed by them.
Just one example, because it happened here recently. A young man who was accepted here for humanitarian reasons repeatedly attracted attention by rioting in a brothel and using violence against the police. However, there was no legal basis for permanently detaining him. Two days later, he killed himself and took an innocent young woman with him to her death.
Everyone wonders how this could have been prevented, but our Western humanitarian laws do not allow for it.

 

[Muhler]

I suspect Marius was under influence of something. He's going totally self-destructive now. I believe it is more than wise to keep Marius in jail!
I think it has finally dawned on him that it's the end of the line. That he won't be able to wriggle his way out this time. He is getting downright unhinged and he doesn't care anymore. He has lost hope.
Anyone in a reasonable normal state of mind would try and pretend to be a model-citizen prior to a trial like this, if that person harbor any hope of getting away lightly.
And anyone reasonably rational would realize that pulling a stunt like this at this time would only make things worse.

 

[Lord-of-the-Manor]

What's shocking is when all is said and done, he probably won't get a custodial sentence

 

[Prinsara]

And in this case, you can blame the parents for not making an effort years ago to get their son into psychiatric treatment.
Although, even that is sometimes difficult with our liberal laws, because you can't admit someone to a secure clinic against their will. That only happens when other people have been killed by them.
….
Everyone wonders how this could have been prevented, but our Western humanitarian laws do not allow for it.

His mother said that they did get him therapy years ago. Didn’t work, but you can’t blame his parents about doing nothing there.

If your laws don’t allow for 48-hour involuntary admission due to being a potential danger to themselves or others, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Marengo]

Ubelievable how this just keeps happening and gets worse by the week. He seems completely unhinged, threatening somebody with a knife. A few days before his trial! A sane person, even a criminal, would lay low. How on earth was he still roaming about freely and where does he get the money to do this and perhaps pay for whatever it is he must be using. Still now, after all that is known, also to his family and friends.

He is a menace to whom he encounters and to himself. Of course it is very difficult to commit somebody to a clinic if they do not want to and I do not envy the staff who has to deal with him.

 

[Prinsara]

He is a menace to whom he encounters and to himself. Of course it is very difficult to commit somebody to a clinic if they do not want to and I would not envy the staff who has to deal with him.

He’s in jail for a month. Isn’t that secure enough and aren’t they very used to dealing with his kind?

 

[Marengo]

I was thinking of a mental institution where he should have been in a long time ago. But in prison they will indeed be used to it indeed.

 

[hereditarytitles]

True, but even 48 hours involuntary admission don't help in the long run. Lots of people have been admitted for that period of time and were released, and after a while they got criminal again. The problem is that just because they could be dangerous but did not yet commit a serious crime such as manslaughter, or trying to murder a person, they get released. That is why many people here say "Why is it that a person has to loose his life before the perpetrator is permanently or for a long time put to prison?"

And refering to Marius parents about having tried to get him help. When and how did this happen? Obviously they tried but gave up, and we don't know the reasons. But, if they tried they didn't try long enough and gave up on him too early, instead pampering him with free housing and money. And that exactly didn't help at all.

 

[Prinsara]

True, but even 48 hours involuntary admission don't help in the long run. Lots of people have been admitted for that period of time and were released, and after a while they got criminal again. The problem is that just because they could be dangerous but did not yet commit a serious crime such as manslaughter, or trying to murder a person, they get released. That is why many people here say "Why is it that a person has to loose his life before the perpetrator is permanently or for a long time put to prison?"

But it’s equally the case that people harm or kill others without ever being involuntarily admitted or under psychiatric observation or seeming like a danger at all — that makes up a large part of that question. Maybe most of it.
The 48 hours is meant to do what commitment did in a more humane way — and can be pretty easily extended if deemed necessary. That’s what happens when you have visibly potentially dangerous people who haven’t done anything yet. And I’m sure it’s saved lives.

 

[maria-olivia]

Mette Marit out of Norway , will not be a Witness during Marius Trial.

 

[LadyFinn]

According to the neighbors, it was between 3.30 and 4.30 on Sunday morning when they heard the sounds from Marius' apartment in Oslo, "a loud" bang and the slamming of the front door. According to the arrest warrant, Marius was arrested at 23.21 that evening.
The police confirm that the charges relate to an offense that they believe occurred over the weekend. It is currently unknown how Marius will respond to the new charges. Marius' defense attorney, Petar Sekulic:
– We take note of the court's ruling and will consider the appeal issue as soon as Høiby has been able to explain himself and the injured party has been able to explain himself. It is uncertain when the interrogation will be carried out. We do not wish to comment on his position on the question of guilt for the time being.
According to VG's information, the new charges apply to the Frogner woman. The woman's legal counsel, Mette Yvonne Larsen, does not want to comment on the information.

Marius Borg Høiby pågrepet: - Hørte «høyt smell»

Natt til søndag skal naboer av Marius Borg Høiby ha hørt «et høyt» smell fra leiligheten hans og slamring av ytterdøren.

www.vg.no

Good summary in Se og Hør, among the information these:
* How long does Marius risk being sentenced to?
The penalty for all the charges he is charged with is a total of 16 years in prison. This is the result of the penalty for the most serious charge (10 years) being added to the sum of all the other charges (which still have a total maximum limit of 6 years). 10 + 6 = 16 years.
In practice, a final judgment (based on common case law) will be well below this:
If Marius is found guilty of all the most serious charges, several criminal law experts believe that he could receive a sentence in the range of 7-9 years.
* If Marius is found quilty - can he avoid prison and serve time in anklets?
No. If he is found guilty as charged, according to case law, he will be sentenced to unconditional imprisonment for a number of years. Violent and sex offenders are rarely sentenced to ankle shackles.
* Can Marius get a reduction in sentence because of the media coverage?
Criminal law experts Se og Hør has spoken to believe that there is limited case law on (and therefore unlikely that) Marius will receive a lower sentence due to the massive media coverage. It will likely still be presented as arguments by Marius's defenders, as the media coverage of this case is unparalleled in modern times. Since Marius Borg Høiby has so far only confessed to a few of the charges - and still denies guilt for the most serious ones - a confession discount is not applicable.

Så lang straff risikerer han

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www.seher.no

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I was thinking of a mental institution where he should have been in a long time ago. But in prison they will indeed be used to it indeed.

You have read my mind. Could he be declared innocent by reason of insanity, and sentenced to a mental institution instead of prison?

 

[polyesco]

His mother said that they did get him therapy years ago. Didn’t work, but you can’t blame his parents about doing nothing there.

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At this point, and after all her emails between her and Epstein, I'm going to seriously place doubt on if they ever did send Marius to therapy. I don't believe MM.
and if they did, what kind of therapy was it?
I know we will never get answers to this but from what I have seen since his first arrest in August, Mette-Marit and Haakon have taken him shopping to London, skiing, and surfing in Portugal.

Right now, I'm seriously doubting MM judgement. And Haakon, well he is just there doesn't seem to have any.

at the end, it is still only Marius responsibility.

 

[Prinsara]

You have read my mind. Could he be declared innocent by reason of insanity, and sentenced to a mental institution instead of prison?

….The bar for insanity is not that low. Marius is pretty aware of his surroundings and the things he has done (see the guilty pleas), not to mention doing things like driving and vacationing solo in the interval, not to mention his very expensive lawyers have never once indicated this would be their strategy.

He’s not John Hinckley or Dan White. He’s a sociopath in all likelihood and other things, but he’s not actually legally insane and he’s fit to stand trial. Please don’t get them mixed up à la MM with her “no details, I’m an emotion gal”.

 

[Hans-Rickard]

You have read my mind. Could he be declared innocent by reason of insanity, and sentenced to a mental institution instead of prison?

I don’t think he will be declared innocent because of mental insanity.

More likely he may have to undergo a forensic psychiatric investigation (in sweden called rättspsykiatrisk undersökning) to decide wether he is fit for prison sentence or if he is likely to harm himself in prison… Then there is the option of sentence him to involuntary commitment (i.e being detained in a psychiatric institution while reciveing care)…. Though he would still risk a prison sentence after the doctors declares that his treatment is completed.

 

[Alison H]

It's making the news here as well.

Crown Princess Mette-Marit's son arrested for alleged assault before rape trial in Norway

Marius Borg Høiby, who goes on trial on Tuesday, has been remanded in custody for four weeks after new allegations.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Prinsara]

I don’t think he will be declared innocent because of mental insanity.

More likely he may have to undergo a forensic psychiatric investigation (in sweden called rättspsykiatrisk undersökning) to decide wether he is fit for prison sentence or if he is likely to harm himself in prison… Then there is the option of sentence him to involuntary commitment (i.e being detained in a psychiatric institution while reciveing care)…. Though he would still risk a prison sentence after the doctors declares that his treatment is completed.

I feel like I should say that right now, he is imprisoned.
And as far as we know, the regular part and not the psych ward/forensic unit.
QED, nobody thinks he needs to be under psychiatric care and is apparently just fine in jail.
I can’t imagine anything changing just because he stands trial.

 

[Moran]

Has either side indicated that insanity might be a factor? I think his lawyers haven't made any statement hinting at this and we can be reasonably sure that the prosecution wants a convicted offender in prison, not a legally insane one in a mental health institution. If nether side expresses such wish, I doubt the court is going to volunteer it.

 

[tihkon2]

Good Lord, this never quits. And maybe the Frogner woman will finally stop also breaking the restraining order and stop illegally hanging out with Marius.

 

[Royalist.in.NC]

True, but even 48 hours involuntary admission don't help in the long run. Lots of people have been admitted for that period of time and were released, and after a while they got criminal again. The problem is that just because they could be dangerous but did not yet commit a serious crime such as manslaughter, or trying to murder a person, they get released. That is why many people here say "Why is it that a person has to loose his life before the perpetrator is permanently or for a long time put to prison?"

And refering to Marius parents about having tried to get him help. When and how did this happen? Obviously they tried but gave up, and we don't know the reasons. But, if they tried they didn't try long enough and gave up on him too early, instead pampering him with free housing and money. And that exactly didn't help at all.

Marius was 4 yrs old when they got married. And hadn’t they both lived with Haakon for a year? I don’t know what kind of early (from birth) intervention is available in Norway. But I would imagine that might not have been the priority during some of their early years together - we just don’t know when and what they did.

 

[Lori138]

Thank you @LadyFinn for that list of possibilities for the court case, it was very helpful.

 

[Somebody]

It’s hard to come up with: mistreating and threatening your ex-girlfriend against whom you have a restraining order the weekend before your trial starts and whose previous mistreatment got you into this whole mess in the first place…

 

[Muhler]

I don’t think he will be declared innocent because of mental insanity.

More likely he may have to undergo a forensic psychiatric investigation (in sweden called rättspsykiatrisk undersökning) to decide wether he is fit for prison sentence or if he is likely to harm himself in prison… Then there is the option of sentence him to involuntary commitment (i.e being detained in a psychiatric institution while reciveing care)…. Though he would still risk a prison sentence after the doctors declares that his treatment is completed.

That seem likely to me as well.
Could he get an indeterminate sentence (forvaring) until he is consider to no longer being a danger to others - and himself?
He is after all looking at a possible sentence of quite a few years if found guilty!

 

[Blog Real]

(..)
According to VG, Marius Borg Høiby was taken to a doctor at a hospital in eastern Norway and examined on site.
Princess Ingrid Alexandra, Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon were photographed outside the hospital.
VG contacted Marius Borg Høiby's defense lawyer, Ellen Holager Andenæs, but she declined to comment on the matter.
Neither the Royal Household nor the Oslo Police District wished to comment on this issue.

Opplysninger til VG: Marius Borg Høiby på sykehus - fikk besøk av kronprins-familien

Her er kronprinsesse Mette-Marit (52), kronprins Haakon (52) og prinsesse Ingrid Alexandra (22) ved sykehuset på Østlandet - der Marius Borg Høiby (29) har vært undersøkt av lege.

www.vg.no

 

[Lord-of-the-Manor]

Maybe they are trying to establish an insanity case. First step is to see a doctor

 

[maria-olivia]

Marius arrested before his trial. Now we have to hear the Justice of Norway and its Lawyers.
This never happen in a Royal family and just now, revelations about the future Queen .

 

[Prinsara]

(..)
According to VG, Marius Borg Høiby was taken to a doctor at a hospital in eastern Norway and examined on site.
Princess Ingrid Alexandra, Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon were photographed outside the hospital.
VG contacted Marius Borg Høiby's defense lawyer, Ellen Holager Andenæs, but she declined to comment on the matter.
Neither the Royal Household nor the Oslo Police District wished to comment on this issue.

Opplysninger til VG: Marius Borg Høiby på sykehus - fikk besøk av kronprins-familien

Her er kronprinsesse Mette-Marit (52), kronprins Haakon (52) og prinsesse Ingrid Alexandra (22) ved sykehuset på Østlandet - der Marius Borg Høiby (29) har vært undersøkt av lege.

www.vg.no

Wait, what? I thought Ingrid was back in Australia.

I’m not very sure this is psychiatric. That could have been taken care of at the jail, presumably? If they had to take him out and out of Oslo no less, maybe it’s physical. Maybe. Or this is his regular doctor?

Wonder if the trial will still start tomorrow.

 

[blooms_rulers]

Maybe they are trying to establish an insanity case. First step is to see a doctor

Do they have psychiatric hospitals in Norway, or would that examination be done at a regular hospital?

 

[Lord-of-the-Manor]

Do they have psychiatric hospitals in Norway, or would that examination be done at a regular hospital?

In Canada, you can go to the emergency room of a regular hospital and get seen by a psychiatrist. I'm just guessing. Pretty convenient he needs medical attention before his trial starts

 

[Prinsara]

I have no idea how he got out of jail for this — there are psychiatrists and physicians employed by the penal system just so the prisoners don’t have to go anywhere. (Especially given he’s now officially a risk to others.)

Will be very interesting to see what the reason is.