Harry and Meghan: Wedding Suggestions and Musings

[cepe]

I don’t think it was stated all 600 people invited would be ‘friends’ but that their would be a personal connection.

That can include charity partners, members of the military etc.

The Cambridges invited former PMs Major and Thatcher but didn’t invite Tony Blair.

No one would be upset if Sophie Trudeau attended or Michelle Obama. I just think the extent of their relationships has been exaggerated in the press

I agree. UK press are forever doing this - as Harry said, he only had to smile at a girl and the press had him dating/engaged.

 

[Osipi]

It has absolutely nothing to do with who is sitting, sleeping or barking in the White House at this time. *No* political figures or heads of state or crowned heads were on the guest list. We can't compare it to W&K's wedding either or Charles and Diana's. C&D's was a state wedding. W&K's was a semi-state wedding. Harry and Meghan's is a private wedding.

We do have foreign royals attending in Prince Seeiso and his wife from Lesotho but they are most definitely friends of the couple. It cannot be construed as political or "official". This is a personal wedding and all the guests will have a personal connection to the couple.

I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the wedding. If someone wants to rant and rave in the media about the political atmosphere that doesn't surround it, I'm going to ignore those articles. Simple.

 

[O-H Anglophile]

The Cambridges invited former PMs Major and Thatcher but didn’t invite Tony Blair.

I don't think these two were so much guests of W & K, more like guests of the Queen or the Royal Family as all the Knights of the Garter were invited.

 

[Osipi]

The key words here are "Knights of the Garter". It had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with being a Knight of the Garter.

 

[Somebody]

No one would be upset if Sophie Trudeau attended or Michelle Obama. I just think the extent of their relationships has been exaggerated in the press

There friendship might have been exaggerated but I am quite sure that there are several people among the 600 invitees with a less personal connection to the couple than the Obamas and Trudeaus (for example, the previously mentioned photographer). However, they wisely decided not to invite them as that could cause issues (as it isn't unthinkable a rant of the POTUS would follow if the former FLOTUS was invited; and if not, the media would make it an issue). So, I am not so sure that 'nobody would be upset' - not that it should be the one and only decisive factor but taking political consequences into account is needed if you are the monarch's grandson even at your 'private' wedding.

 

[Countessmeout]

I don't see the arguing that they are only 'friendly co-workers' and not friends.

There are plenty of co-workers, and even just plain aquintances, who will be invited. Like members of charities Harry has worked with, or celebrities like David Beckham that Harry may have met at a handful of events. Or the victims of the tower fire, who have been invited, he has met once. Certainly the Obamas are more familiar then many of those who are attending.

And going to yoga, shopping and other things with Sophie, certainly is more then meeting at the odd cocktail party like some guests.

I think it is simple matter of they decided to distance themselves from any political debate. Obama might be the former president, but he is still that, and would cause a lot of talk. And Trudeau is the prime minister. If he and his wife were invited, and not the PM of the UK may be sticky too.

Hopefully it was a decision in the end made by the couple alone.

 

[AlowVera]

Yes there are different levels of friendship, like that unprofessional Gina. You can work together and be colleagues and be friendly have a great work relationship and still not be close friends.

 

[Rudolph]

If Sophie Trudeau attended it would be as a ‘friend’ of Meghan’s not as the PM’s wife. Yet she’s not going.

Theresa May’s spokesperson said the PM wasn’t expecting to be invited. So I doubt she’s too concerned.

 

[Osipi]

What it really boils down to is that none of us (the media included) can put any kind of a level on personal friendships of people we don't know and only see them interacting with each other in public.

These people work together and know the value of diplomacy and how to put on a "game face" and work together for a common cause. Whether or not a friendship exists beyond the public level is not something that is made known to us for the most part.

I think its best to just accept that this is what Harry and Meghan are doing for their wedding and leave it at that without assuming behind the scenes friendships that may or may not exist.

Just my two cents worth.

 

[ACO]

If Sophie Trudeau attended it would be as a ‘friend’ of Meghan’s not as the PM’s wife. Yet she’s not going.

Theresa May’s spokesperson said the PM wasn’t expecting to be invited. So I doubt she’s too concerned.

But she IS his wife at the end of the day. It is a tricky situation. Anyways they seemed to go out of their way to make it seem like it wasn't a personal thing like with the comment with the Obamas. I can't say the same for Trump.

Here is a list of TV coverage for the wedding. Busy week as expected.

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/royal-wedding-roundup-watch-ahead-of-the-nuptials-1202750406/

 

[Countessmeout]

If Sophie Trudeau attended it would be as a ‘friend’ of Meghan’s not as the PM’s wife. Yet she’s not going.

Theresa May’s spokesperson said the PM wasn’t expecting to be invited. So I doubt she’s too concerned.

Just like John Major went to the Cambridge wedding as a 'knight of the garter' and not as former Prime minister. But that doesn't erase the fact he was former prime minister. And doesn't erase Sophie is the first lady of Canada. And certainly wouldn't stop any talk either.

These people work together and know the value of diplomacy and how to put on a "game face" and work together for a common cause. Whether or not a friendship exists beyond the public level is not something that is made known to us for the most part.

Again there is no need to be a 'friend' tag on any of this. Certainly many of the charity invites wouldn't be classified as friend, or even friendly coworker. Simply an aquintance. There certainly is at least friendly banter, not just 'game face' between Harry and the Obamas.

We also do have photographic evidence that Sophie and Meghan have had private interaction, not for charity and causes.

But Sophie, like Harry and Meghan, know about the talk and power of perception. And would understand why an invite might not have been extended.

Harry and Meghan certainly don't need to turn this into a three ring circus.

 

[Curryong]

Talking about three ring circuses, and yes I know this is the wrong thread, but apparently Samantha M has been complaining that none of the Markles, including herself, has received a wedding invitation. Hide of an elephant, and how would she know about the rest of her family? She's quarrelled with most of them.

 

[Countessmeout]

Exactly. The woman is just stirring up issues like ever.

She isn't alone. Meghan's talkative nephew (Tom Jr son) Tyler and his mother were also on tv and said they had been snubbed and not got invites. Tyler is said to be going to London anyways.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entert...225/meghan-markle-nephew-tyler-thomas-dooley/

Thomas wasn't involved in the interview, but he has spoken to the press as well so not sure he should be waiting on an invite.


But Samantha's own kids, her older two, she would have no clue on. They don't speak to her. I'd be surprised if they weren't invited, especially Ashley, who Meghan is close to.

 

[jacqui24]

So what other announcement are we expecting before the wedding?

Bridal party
Coat of Arms
Honeymoon location?
Do they usually announce where the bride will be leaving from?

 

[Osipi]

One thing I'm not expecting to be announced to the public is where they're going on a honeymoon or even when the honeymoon is going to be. That is kept private.

 

[TLLK]

Exactly. The woman is just stirring up issues like ever.

She isn't alone. Meghan's talkative nephew (Tom Jr son) Tyler and his mother were also on tv and said they had been snubbed and not got invites. Tyler is said to be going to London anyways.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entert...225/meghan-markle-nephew-tyler-thomas-dooley/

Thomas wasn't involved in the interview, but he has spoken to the press as well so not sure he should be waiting on an invite.


But Samantha's own kids, her older two, she would have no clue on. They don't speak to her. I'd be surprised if they weren't invited, especially Ashley, who Meghan is close to.

I am secretly hoping that Samantha will catch a glimpse of one of her own children or another discreet Markle relative being escorted to their seats at St. George's Chapel on May 19. However I feel badly that her innocent TV screen will bear the brunt of her tantrum.?

 

[Pranter]

So what other announcement are we expecting before the wedding?

Bridal party
Coat of Arms
Honeymoon location?
Do they usually announce where the bride will be leaving from?

Expecting the bridal party members to be announced anytime. I can't remember when they announced Kate's coat of arms..was it the day of the wedding?

They never, far as I remember, tell the honeymoon location (might of with Charles and Diana since they were on a ship).


LaRae

 

[jacqui24]

The Fug Girls wrote a hilarious piece of what should be said at the rehearsal dinner toast.

https://www.bustle.com/p/this-is-the-rehearsal-dinner-toast-meghan-markle-deserves-8720597

 

[ACO]

Yeah I expect the wedding party details will be out pretty soon. Maybe after next week's events. That is the last major announcement left.

 

[Osipi]

I just checked and the Middleton coat of arms was announced on April 19th, 10 days before the wedding so if there is a coat of arms granted to either Tom Markle, Sr. or just to Meghan, we should hear about that prior to the wedding also.

William and Kate's conjugal coat of arms wasn't revealed until September, 2013 so we'll probably be waiting a while before we see Harry and Meghan's joint coat of arms.

The announcement of any dukedom that is bestowed on Harry will be announced the morning of the wedding so that's something to look for as the talking heads take us through a lot of the lead up to the wedding.

Lots and lots to look forward to.

 

[Dman]

So what other announcement are we expecting before the wedding?

Bridal party
Coat of Arms
Honeymoon location?
Do they usually announce where the bride will be leaving from?

Well, the wedding party announcement should be coming up. Meghan’s Coat of Arms should be revealed days before the wedding. We should be getting video and photos of the wedding carriage.

 

[Zonk]

Exactly. The woman is just stirring up issues like ever.

She isn't alone. Meghan's talkative nephew (Tom Jr son) Tyler and his mother were also on tv and said they had been snubbed and not got invites. Tyler is said to be going to London anyways.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entert...225/meghan-markle-nephew-tyler-thomas-dooley/

Thomas wasn't involved in the interview, but he has spoken to the press as well so not sure he should be waiting on an invite.


But Samantha's own kids, her older two, she would have no clue on. They don't speak to her. I'd be surprised if they weren't invited, especially Ashley, who Meghan is close to.

This is the same Tyler who admitted in an interview that he hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 3 years and Tracey, her ex sister in law, who hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 20?

Yeah, not sure why they are surprised about not getting an invitation. Thomas might have gotten one if he hadn't felt the need to seek media attention. Tracey IMO she should have never expected one.

I do think we will see Meghan's nieces. You know, the ones who haven't spoken to the media.

I think we will get the announcement of the bridal party by April 19th. Does anyone remember when William and Kate's party was announced?

 

[jacqui24]

This is the same Tyler who admitted in an interview that he hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 3 years and Tracey, her ex sister in law, who hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 20?

Yeah, not sure why they are surprised about not getting an invitation. Thomas might have gotten one if he hadn't felt the need to seek media attention. Tracey IMO she should have never expected one.

I do think we will see Meghan's nieces. You know, the ones who haven't spoken to the media.

I think we will get the announcement of the bridal party by April 19th. Does anyone remember when William and Kate's party was announced?

It's interesting that these people expected a invitation when none of them were at her first wedding. Very interesting.

And I'm assuming if they don't announce it this week, it'll wait until after CHOGM is done.

 

[csw]

So what other announcement are we expecting before the wedding?

Bridal party
Coat of Arms
Honeymoon location?
Do they usually announce where the bride will be leaving from?

Which dukedom Harry will receive. Does that count?

 

[jacqui24]

I didn't put that down since that'll come the morning of the wedding. I guess that's still technically before the wedding, but I kinda just lump that in with the wedding.

 

[Zonk]

It's interesting that these people expected a invitation when none of them were at her first wedding. Very interesting.

And I'm assuming if they don't announce it this week, it'll wait until after CHOGM is done.

I see that different. It was a destination wedding...not that it didn't count. But maybe they weren't there because of cost factors. So while its possible they were not there because they weren't invited its also possible that they were invited but could not go because of cost.

 

[jacqui24]

I see that different. It was a destination wedding...not that it didn't count. But maybe they weren't there because of cost factors. So while its possible they were not there because they weren't invited its also possible that they were invited but could not go because of cost.

But they could go to London? I think Tom Jr. told DF that he couldn't go because he had something to do that he couldn't remember what anymore. I feel like if you are close, then it better be something important that you'll remember.

 

[monica_]

This is the same Tyler who admitted in an interview that he hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 3 years and Tracey, her ex sister in law, who hadn't seen or spoken to Meghan in 20?

Yeah, not sure why they are surprised about not getting an invitation. Thomas might have gotten one if he hadn't felt the need to seek media attention. Tracey IMO she should have never expected one.

I do think we will see Meghan's nieces. You know, the ones who haven't spoken to the media.

I think we will get the announcement of the bridal party by April 19th. Does anyone remember when William and Kate's party was announced?

William and Kate's party was announced on February 14.

 

[Zonk]

But they could go to London? I think Tom Jr. told DF that he couldn't go because he had something to do that he couldn't remember what anymore. I feel like if you are close, then it better be something important that you'll remember.

Yes, its totally possible. Who knows what their financial circumstances were during the time frame of Meghan's first marriage. I know my finances are totally different than they were four years ago. We did have a rescission.

My point is regardless if they were or were not invited to her first marriage, they were not invited to this one.

William and Kate's party was announced on February 14.

Thank you. So we should expect the announcement sometime in April I think.

 

[monica_]

Thank you. So we should expect the announcement sometime in April I think.

I don't think they will make any major announcement regarding the wedding during the CHOGM week. So maybe we will learn tomorrow