Layla1971
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I think to determine who is the rightful head of the family and of the house, we need to examine the family tree.
Maria's father was Grand Duke Vladimir Cyrillovitch of Russia (although as we have discussed the legality of his marriage is in dispute), he was the only son of HIH Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovitch and HIH Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna (formerly HRH Princess Victoria Melita of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha).
The Emperor Nicholas II disapproved of the marriage between Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovitch and Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna because the two were first cousins and she was the divorced wife of HRH Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig of Hesse.
Upon his marriage Grand Duke Cyril was stripped of all of his imperial titles and removed from the line of succession, it was deemed that he had violated the Pauline Laws.
But after the deaths of many possible successors, the family put Cyril third in line to the throne and Emperor Nicholas II reinstated Cyril's royal titles and Cyril's wife was given the title and style of 'HIH Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna'.
His paternal grandparents were Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovitch of Russia and Maria Pavlovna (formerly HH Duchess Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin).
The parents of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovitch were Emperor Alexander II and his wife Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse (daughter of Ludwig II, Grand Duke of Hesse).
He was Emperor Alexander II's third, but second surviving son, his older brother was Emperor Alexander III and therefore he was the uncle of Alexander III' son and heir Tsar Nicholas II.
The imperial line is guaranteed on Maria's fathers side, but then we must get back to her parents marriage and it's legality.
We could argue that her parents marriage was legal and therefore she is an eligible heir, but what about the children and grandchildren of Tsar Nicholas II's siblings, it seem they have rights to succession too if they had marriages that would be in the same category as the marriage of Maria's grandparents.
I'll find more info on those marriages later and post it.

Maria's father was Grand Duke Vladimir Cyrillovitch of Russia (although as we have discussed the legality of his marriage is in dispute), he was the only son of HIH Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovitch and HIH Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna (formerly HRH Princess Victoria Melita of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha).
The Emperor Nicholas II disapproved of the marriage between Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovitch and Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna because the two were first cousins and she was the divorced wife of HRH Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig of Hesse.
Upon his marriage Grand Duke Cyril was stripped of all of his imperial titles and removed from the line of succession, it was deemed that he had violated the Pauline Laws.
But after the deaths of many possible successors, the family put Cyril third in line to the throne and Emperor Nicholas II reinstated Cyril's royal titles and Cyril's wife was given the title and style of 'HIH Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna'.
His paternal grandparents were Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovitch of Russia and Maria Pavlovna (formerly HH Duchess Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin).
The parents of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovitch were Emperor Alexander II and his wife Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse (daughter of Ludwig II, Grand Duke of Hesse).
He was Emperor Alexander II's third, but second surviving son, his older brother was Emperor Alexander III and therefore he was the uncle of Alexander III' son and heir Tsar Nicholas II.
The imperial line is guaranteed on Maria's fathers side, but then we must get back to her parents marriage and it's legality.
We could argue that her parents marriage was legal and therefore she is an eligible heir, but what about the children and grandchildren of Tsar Nicholas II's siblings, it seem they have rights to succession too if they had marriages that would be in the same category as the marriage of Maria's grandparents.
I'll find more info on those marriages later and post it.
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