Grand Ducal Houses of Mecklenburg (Schwerin and Strelitz)


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In a surprising turn of events the succession to the Headship of the House of Mecklenburg was altered on 16 December. Duke Michael has replaced his older brother Duke Alexander as the first-in-line and is now his father's heir before his brother and nephew. No reason has been given.



Thank you to "Royals without throne" on Instagram for the tip.
 
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I wonder what on earth has caused this. Thoughts are Alexander himself doesn't want the responsibility. Or there's some dark secret. It can't be an "even birth" thing because Alexander and Michael's mother was a commoner as well.
 
In a surprising turn of events the succession to the Headship of the House of Mecklenburg was altered on 16 December. Duke Michael has replaced his older brother Duke Alexander as the first-in-line and is now his father's heir before his brother and nephew. No reason has been given.



Thank you to "Royals without throne" on Instagram for the tip.

First, I didn't know much about this house but I love that they have a website with so much detail on their history.

A screenshot of something that caught my attention on the date, Dec 16th 2025, my 65th birthday!
So sorry for whatever is it my day caused over there! :eek::giggle:

Kidding aside @JR76 thanks for posting that link, I'm logging out to go page by page checking them out

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In a surprising turn of events the succession to the Headship of the House of Mecklenburg was altered on 16 December. Duke Michael has replaced his older brother Duke Alexander as the first-in-line and is now his father's heir before his brother and nephew. No reason has been given.



Thank you to "Royals without throne" on Instagram for the tip.
Whoever wrote the text in the link "histoiresroyal", is assuming that as the family has not given any reasons for this, but 31-year-old Duke Michael is said to be very close to his father. He recently accompanied him to several official engagements, notably his visit to Prince Emanuele Filibert of Savoy in Rome. Duke Alexander has been married to Hande Macit since 2022 and he, his wife and the little Duke Leopold live in the Netherlands, which may explain this decision.
 
I wonder what on earth has caused this. Thoughts are Alexander himself doesn't want the responsibility. Or there's some dark secret. It can't be an "even birth" thing because Alexander and Michael's mother was a commoner as well.
The family website says that - "In the House of Mecklenburg-Strelitz the only deciding factor if a marriage is dynastic or morganatic was the decision of the grand duke, or today the head of the house." Therefore it can't be a question of Duchess Hande not being of equal birth.
 
The family website says that - "In the House of Mecklenburg-Strelitz the only deciding factor if a marriage is dynastic or morganatic was the decision of the grand duke, or today the head of the house." Therefore it can't be a question of Duchess Hande not being of equal birth.
Which is basically what I said. So the mystery continues.
 
A really strange turn of events. I hope Alexander is ok with this change. He couldn’t give up his succession rights as they still need him and his son as spares but he apparently wasn’t good enough to take over the headship when the time comes?!

A lot of emphasis is put on Alexander living in the Netherlands. Didn’t Michael also live in the Netherlands for awhile?

Edit: I did remember it correctly. According to his profile page on the Mecklenburg website, he did both his Bachelor and Master studies at Leiden University. Afterwards he moved back to Germany; his is now dividing his time between Munich and Neustreliz.

However, Alexander and Hande are also living in Germany! They moved (back) to Mecklenburg in 2024 (see Alexander's profile page) - where Alexander is working as an Energy Management Consultant. So, now it makes even less sense. The family moved back to their 'homeland' after their son was born and are now bypassed by his younger brother?!
 
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One can only speculate about this. At Alexander and Hande's wedding, I had the impression that they were a very conservative family with lots of really old family members. Those photos of the wedding and the family, I remember well, Alexander and his wife seemed to be so young and refreshing.

Even though they didn't make it public, they may not have been happy that Alexander married a woman with Turkish roots who is Muslim. She had to convert to Catholicism and consented and even gave birth to a healthy male heir. That wasn't satisfying for the head of the family, it seems.

But as a working father living in Rotterdam, Alexander is probably unable to fulfill his duties as his father would have liked. So he favors his younger son, who is probably closer to him because he supports him.

Hopefully, Michael will marry the right woman, then everyone will be happy. I'm sorry if that sounds cynical. But that's how I would explain this very unusual decision.
 
First, I didn't know much about this house but I love that they have a website with so much detail on their history.

A screenshot of something that caught my attention on the date, Dec 16th 2025, my 65th birthday!
So sorry for whatever is it my day caused over there! :eek::giggle:

Kidding aside @JR76 thanks for posting that link, I'm logging out to go page by page checking them out

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This story about 'deference' isn't completely true as far as I can tell. It seems that Duke Paul Friedrich renounced his succession rights - which is quite different and not uncommon. Are there any other examples in European royal history of deference in the line of succession (so where the older brother/sibling did remain in line but was passed by younger siblings)? I guess, they wanted to provide some kind of rationale pretending this act is not as exceptional as it is.

One can only speculate about this. At Alexander and Hande's wedding, I had the impression that they were a very conservative family with lots of really old family members. Those photos of the wedding and the family, I remember well, Alexander and his wife seemed to be so young and refreshing.

Even though they didn't make it public, they may not have been happy that Alexander married a woman with Turkish roots who is Muslim. She had to convert to Catholicism and consented and even gave birth to a healthy male heir. That wasn't satisfying for the head of the family, it seems.

But as a working father living in Rotterdam, Alexander is probably unable to fulfill his duties as his father would have liked. So he favors his younger son, who is probably closer to him because he supports him.

Hopefully, Michael will marry the right woman, then everyone will be happy. I'm sorry if that sounds cynical. But that's how I would explain this very unusual decision.
But Alexander is no longer living in Rotterdam; they moved to Mecklenburg last year! I assume that was with the intention to support his father and prepare for his eventual future as head of the house. So, if a little over a year later, by an unclear instrument, he and his son are moved down in the line of succession that is very puzzling.

As Alexander couldn't renounce his succession rights (and probably didn't want to either); what legal instrument was used - probably something along the lines of 'the will of the head of the house'? If so, that makes life very uncertain for any future heirs because apparently the head of the house can decide to change the line of succession at a whim (as long as he excludes women)?!
 
But Alexander is no longer living in Rotterdam; they moved to Mecklenburg last year! I assume that was with the intention to support his father and prepare for his eventual future as head of the house. So, if a little over a year later, by an unclear instrument, he and his son are moved down in the line of succession that is very puzzling.

As Alexander couldn't renounce his succession rights (and probably didn't want to either); what legal instrument was used - probably something along the lines of 'the will of the head of the house'? If so, that makes life very uncertain for any future heirs because apparently the head of the house can decide to change the line of succession at a whim (as long as he excludes women)?!
But isn’t this the case for other royal houses also?
I think they follow the rule that the head of the house is a monarch and can change the rules of the succession as they see fit, we saw it in Romania also!
 
:previous: I didn't know they had moved to Mecklenburg. According to their LinkedIn profiles, they both have successful careers.
I can't imagine they would have moved to Mecklenburg without a family reason.
Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania is located in eastern Germany and is after our reunification in 1989 unfortunately still the state where the fewest people move to because there are structurally few job opportunities. It is the state that receives the most federal subsidies because of its lack of industry infrastructure and job opportunities.

The only thing that brings people money there is tourism, because there is a lot of unspoiled, beautiful countryside.
In addition, the Mecklenburg Strelitzers have been living in southern Germany, in Breisgau, for years, far, far away from Mecklenburg. Very puzzling.

Hande has not updated her LinkedIn profile since 2023, even though she was apparently a successful businesswoman.
 
But isn’t this the case for other royal houses also?
I think they follow the rule that the head of the house is a monarch and can change the rules of the succession as they see fit, we saw it in Romania also!
The fact that in that same text they claim that the line of succession cannot be changed to include women - but would go extinct instead, i.e., that they strictly follow salic primogeniture rules, makes this decision very weird and inconsistent. Because of the head of the house could change the rules, there is no reason he couldn't change it in other ways... (however, of course, if that were to be true, Borwin himself would not be head of the house of Mecklenburg as he is from the junior line - but the senior line died out)

In other cases where changes were made to ensure a different heir was picked, people ahead were typically removed from the line of succession (that recently happened in Serbia) or new members were added (often in the case of starting to include women like in Romania). Neither is the case here. Alexander and Leopold remain in the line of succession (as back-up options against the line fully dying out if Michael doesn't produce sons) but are bypassed by their younger brother (while it is still unclear how and why that happened and whether Alexander agreed or not).

:previous: I didn't know they had moved to Mecklenburg. According to their LinkedIn profiles, they both have successful careers.
I can't imagine they would have moved to Mecklenburg without a family reason.
Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania is located in eastern Germany and is after our reunification in 1989 unfortunately still the state where the fewest people move to because there are structurally few job opportunities. It is the state that receives the most federal subsidies because of its lack of industry infrastructure and job opportunities.

The only thing that brings people money there is tourism, because there is a lot of unspoiled, beautiful countryside.
In addition, the Mecklenburg Strelitzers have been living in southern Germany, in Breisgau, for years, far, far away from Mecklenburg. Very puzzling.

Hande has not updated her LinkedIn profile since 2023, even though she was apparently a successful businesswoman.
Exactly, and in 2023 they also followed the family tradition by giving 'Georg' as first name to their son (while according to another family tradition they use the second name in daily life). So, they clearly were preparing themselves for their future roles as head of the house.
 
According to the commercial register, a branch of the company "energap" was registered in Alt Kentzlin, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, in 2023. This is the company's only address in the area, as it otherwise has international branches in other locations. There are only three employees listed, two of them are CEOs. I assume this is Alexander's workplace.


The village is closely linked to the family history, even though the manor house has long since ceased to exist. So there isn't even a historic residence he could have moved into.
If it is indeed the case that he was not placed second in line to inherit at his own request, that would certainly be a bitter disappointment for him and his young family.
 
@JR76 Since you posted this on Wednesday I'm still reading the information on the links off their website. They are quite an interesting family, and a bit pretentious listing Romanov palaces as their country seats homes for the Mecklenburg Russian branches of the family.

 
The confusing story about the change of the line of succession has become even more confusing. According to a statement made to Histoires royales there has been a "a communication error on the part of the editors" of the family's website meaning that as of today Duke Alexander is still the heir to his father followed by his son with his brother Duke Michael as third in line. That said it's Michael who in the future will carry the duties and responsibilities of the head of the house and quite strangely "in the event of the death, incapacity, or resignation of the Duke of Mecklenburg, Duke Michael alone shall exercise all the rights, duties, and powers relating to the customary law of the Grand Ducal House."
This new agreement will be formalised in a document to be signed on Christmas day.
 
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Interesting but indeed more confusing. So, Michael effectively will become his brother's regent while his brother officially remains the head of the house. And, no, I am not buying the story about a 'communication error on the part of the editors'. The story about the deference and pretending it was a custom within the house etc must have come from the Duke himself. There might have been lots of questions and comments over the last few days that made them realize that the construction they had in mind was not a feasible one.
 
And, no, I am not buying the story about a 'communication error on the part of the editors'. The story about the deference and pretending it was a custom within the house etc must have come from the Duke himself. There might have been lots of questions and comments over the last few days that made them realize that the construction they had in mind was not a feasible one.
Neither am I. The first statement was, although puzzling, clear and backed up by an impressive amount of facts to justify the change of the line of succession. This was not a typo in a gossip magazine. Like you say something has made them change their minds.
Yet another inheritance drama in a German house...
 
Wasn't there also a comparable change in the Hohenzollern family a few years ago, with the eldest son being bypassed as heir seemingly because he was estranged from the family and uninterested in the family business?

The fact that in that same text they claim that the line of succession cannot be changed to include women - but would go extinct instead, i.e., that they strictly follow salic primogeniture rules, makes this decision very weird and inconsistent. Because of the head of the house could change the rules, there is no reason he couldn't change it in other ways...

Moreover, the current Strelitz family's male-line descent from the House of Mecklenburg originated from a morganatic and (subsquently) adoptive line. During the monarchy, such lines were certainly excluded from succession. Their "Succession" page attempts to justify their claim by stating that the post-monarchical head of house was entitled to elevate such lines to dynastic status, even retroactively, but that makes their insistence that the Schwerin line's change to allow female headship was not and could not be valid seem rather self-serving.

 
Wasn't there also a comparable change in the Hohenzollern family a few years ago, with the eldest son being bypassed as heir seemingly because he was estranged from the family and uninterested in the family business?



Moreover, the current Strelitz family's male-line descent from the House of Mecklenburg originated from a morganatic and (subsquently) adoptive line. During the monarchy, such lines were certainly excluded from succession. Their "Succession" page attempts to justify their claim by stating that the post-monarchical head of house was entitled to elevate such lines to dynastic status, even retroactively, but that makes their insistence that the Schwerin line's change to allow female headship was not and could not be valid seem rather self-serving.


And they are so strict even their website is so stubborn Agnatic it doesn't allow you to highlight and quote on any text.
 
There may be some tragedy behind all of this...
 
Wasn't there also a comparable change in the Hohenzollern family a few years ago, with the eldest son being bypassed as heir seemingly because he was estranged from the family and uninterested in the family business?
Yes the son of Fürst Karl Friedrich was bypassed and has renounced his rights. But that he because he wanted it as he doesn't have an Interest to take over the Family business on day-.
 
The confusing story about the change of the line of succession has become even more confusing. According to a statement made to Histoires royales there has been a "a communication error on the part of the editors" of the family's website meaning that as of today Duke Alexander is still the heir to his father followed by his son with his brother Duke Michael as third in line. That said it's Michael who in the future will carry the duties and responsibilities of the head of the house and quite strangely "in the event of the death, incapacity, or resignation of the Duke of Mecklenburg, Duke Michael alone shall exercise all the rights, duties, and powers relating to the customary law of the Grand Ducal House."
This new agreement will be formalised in a document to be signed on Christmas day.

The part about Alexander remaining formally first in line and the family members signing a formal agreement come Christmas has been deleted from the statement.


One wonders if they worked everything out prior to making public announcements, as it seems they are having to edit “communication errors” again and again.
 
The saga continues… I am especially curious about Alexander’s take on all this. As his move last year suggested that he was ready to take up this role that is now given to his younger brother.

Another sign of deception is that they didn't change the date of the statement. It is still dated as 'December 19', while -as TM pointed out- the original statement included both information about an agreement to be signed by all three parties as well as declarations about the unchanged status of both Alexander and Leopold.

Wasn't there also a comparable change in the Hohenzollern family a few years ago, with the eldest son being bypassed as heir seemingly because he was estranged from the family and uninterested in the family business?



Moreover, the current Strelitz family's male-line descent from the House of Mecklenburg originated from a morganatic and (subsquently) adoptive line. During the monarchy, such lines were certainly excluded from succession. Their "Succession" page attempts to justify their claim by stating that the post-monarchical head of house was entitled to elevate such lines to dynastic status, even retroactively, but that makes their insistence that the Schwerin line's change to allow female headship was not and could not be valid seem rather self-serving.

Yes, I noticed that as well. It all seems rather self-serving indeed. They very much seem to take the stance we can do as we lease as long as it serves our own interests and pretend it is all according to tradition.
 
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It's a little embarrassing. Obviously, there were discussions within the family about the distribution of tasks. Of course, it would have been better to clarify this beforehand, rather than having to change everything within a few days. As I have since read, Michael also has a job, similar to his brother Alexander. So both are equally busy in their respective professions, meaning that both can carry out family activities as needed, of which there are probably not that many.
 
Apparently, as late as September, all three of Borwin's children were described on their family's website as representatives of the family:

Olga: "When her work commitments permit Duchess Olga has made numerous visits to Mecklenburg where she has represented the Grand Ducal House at various events."

Alexander: "When his work commitments permit Duke Alexander represents the Grand Ducal House at various events."

Michael: "When his work commitments permit he represents the Grand Ducal House at events within Mecklenburg and elsewhere."

But now the website has been updated so that Olga and Alexander are no longer mentioned as representing the family, only Michael:


So Olga (the eldest, but already banned from the succession for being female) has also been quietly downgraded.


It also seems that between November and December 2024 (that is, more than a year ago), Alexander's title on the website was edited from "Hereditary Prince Alexander" to "Duke Alexander". However, even after the edit, the biography still listed 29 October 2018 as the date it was last updated.

November 2024

December 2024
 
Apparently, as late as September, all three of Borwin's children were described on their family's website as representatives of the family:

Olga: "When her work commitments permit Duchess Olga has made numerous visits to Mecklenburg where she has represented the Grand Ducal House at various events."

Alexander: "When his work commitments permit Duke Alexander represents the Grand Ducal House at various events."

Michael: "When his work commitments permit he represents the Grand Ducal House at events within Mecklenburg and elsewhere."

But now the website has been updated so that Olga and Alexander are no longer mentioned as representing the family, only Michael:


So Olga (the eldest, but already banned from the succession for being female) has also been quietly downgraded.


It also seems that between November and December 2024 (that is, more than a year ago), Alexander's title on the website was edited from "Hereditary Prince Alexander" to "Duke Alexander". However, even after the edit, the biography still listed 29 October 2018 as the date it was last updated.

November 2024

December 2024
That could because she has married this year and got a child
 
When comparing the information about Michael with his own details on his LinkedIn profile, it is noticeable that there are differences. What is written on his father's homepage is much more detailed than what he himself has published on his profile. Personally, I find it excessive to include every single detail, such as participation in sports at school or university, in a resume. His father has really exaggerated here.
Most of his activities lasted between two and six months at most; even his time in the German Armed Forces was only six months.

 
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