General News for the Wales Family 3: March 2025-


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Countessmeout said:
Sorry but when you have an extreme life of privilege in return for a ceremonial role, attending church once in a blue moon isn't too much to ask.

[.....] William hasn't even stepped up to the basic role of Prince of Wales. Yeah you have kids, guess what people work with kids. If the royal family is going to downsize, then those left actually need to step up and do their work.

Okay so they spend Easter at Amner. There is a church there. Go to Easter church. Even people who aren't overly religious, go to church on holidays. Yes Charles rarely went to church at Windsor before king at Easter. But he went. Durham, York, etc he went on Easter.

Charles: in his time as POW created his own foundation and used the time to devote to his own personal passions as Prince, when not also having to do ceremonial roles as monarch.

William: as prince of Wales is playing part time royal 'well I am not monarch yet' and while they have their foundation, its basically just a way to organize other people's charities they are patrons of.

The way to show 'its a monarchy of the future' is not to 'we do less for as much money if not more'. Its modernized ways of doing work.
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re: the part I have highlighted: Do they? I never go to Church, I worship in private. Who's to say William won't go to church tomorrow or worship privately? And why compare William with Charles? They are two different people living different lives. William is his own man, not a Charles clone.

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As I've said in previous posts, William is visible if anyone chooses to see him; or they can choose not to, or find fault with what he does, and criticise instead. Bear in mind also the words of another poster who mentioned the importance of quality over quantity.

None of us have any idea of what goes on behind the scenes, there may be a very good reason why the Wales family won't be with the King tomorrow that we probably haven't even considered; but it's all too easy to use it as an excuse to have a go them, as per.

Wait until William is King. If he doesn't go to church without good reason at Easter, then I'll be asking questions myself (I can't see it happening as William has always impressed me with his dedication to his destiny and his duty).

Lastly there is a separate thread specifically for discussing thoughts about William's suitability for Kingship, I believe this thread is for news relating to the Wales family. :)
 
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sophie25 said:
Arsenal are also a British team in the same competition and they are a London club so where are the Westminsters in supporting them? Look, as I said before, I have no problem with William having adopted Villa as his team, but it looks practically medieval with all his pals and their kids becoming Villa fans too. [.....]
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But it’s only you who says they’ve become fans. Maybe they just went to a sports event with a friend (William)? People are allowed to attend all sorts of events with out being diehard fans.
 
Even if I feel that the whole “not going to Easter” thing is overblown, neither TRH The Wales nor especially their supporters can blame every single criticism of them on bad faith attacks or tribalism. Many genuinely care about their monarchy and want to see it represented with the dignity it deserves, regardless of how that looks to each individual represented.
 
I'm not bothered about religion and I couldn't care less whether William goes to church at Easter or not ... but I have to say that, seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, James et al all attending the service at Windsor today, the absence of the Waleses did rather stand out.
 
Alison H said:
I'm not bothered about religion and I couldn't care less whether William goes to church at Easter or not ... but I have to say that, seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, James et al all attending the service at Windsor today, the absence of the Waleses did rather stand out.
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I do agree. I am also going to voice an opinion that I know is increasingly being seen as old fashioned, but I feel part of family time is doing things that aren’t always fun - being part of the traditions of a family which in this case as this is the Royal Family means introducing the children to the expectation that on Easter Day the family attend Church together.
 
Alison H said:
I'm not bothered about religion and I couldn't care less whether William goes to church at Easter or not ... but I have to say that, seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, James et al all attending the service at Windsor today, the absence of the Waleses did rather stand out.
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Yes it did. Had they been there, I suspect they would have got the most attention.

I have my own theories about why they weren't there, but one possibility is that after all the flak and the targeting of his wife this time last year (and the crazy rumours that went with it), William decided they would enjoy a private Easter this year.

Another possibility is that, in light of their age and what the King has been through with his own illness, William and Catherine wanted the King and Queen to be the focus of attention rather than themselves.

Perhaps these two possibilities sort of worked in tandem. Purely my thoughts of course.
 
Ghost said:
Which means (if right) that William is representative for the generations for which he will be King?
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I could mean the disestablishment of Church and State too, the end of religious coronations. I could see William and Kate doing what Denmark done when Mary and Frederick became King and Queen . A balcony appearance
 
I don’t blame William with family for wanting to celebrate easter privately… They always get the most attention (or truth to be told rather are the only ones who gets any attention) otherwise…

But it would be nice to at least get a sign of life from them… An instagram post from them or something to see what they are doing would be nice…
 
Hans-Rickard said:
I don’t blame William with family for wanting to celebrate easter privately… They always get the most attention (or truth to be told rather are the only ones who gets any attention) otherwise…

But it would be nice to at least get a sign of life from them… An instagram post from them or something to see what they are doing would be nice…
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I was expecting an Easter post. It may well come tomorrow which although not part of the Christian Holy Week, is a bank holiday in the UK, when families usually have a family day out.
 
sophie25 said:
I could mean the disestablishment of Church and State too, the end of religious coronations. I could see William and Kate doing what Denmark done when Mary and Frederick became King and Queen . A balcony appearance
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Not quite sure how you got to disestablishment, but the reality is that most Britons are not church goers any more, barring wedding, christenings and funerals. The CoE just does not occupy the central role it once did in the lives of most Britons today. To that extent, if Britain chose to become a secular state, I don't think most people would particularly care. But I fear we are veering way of course here.
 
Maybe the Prince and Princess of Wales are taking advantage of the chance to have a quiet Easter at home while they still can. The children are still young.
 
Elly C said:
I do agree. I am also going to voice an opinion that I know is increasingly being seen as old fashioned, but I feel part of family time is doing things that aren’t always fun - being part of the traditions of a family which in this case as this is the Royal Family means introducing the children to the expectation that on Easter Day the family attend Church together.
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I agree with the bolded principle but it doesn't look like Easter day gathering is an expectation for the BRF though seeing as Charles never attended from 2010 till after the Queen died and didn't introduce such an expectation to his own children. William and Catherine only started attending from 2017 just before they became full time, of their own volition, despite his father not attending.

It looks more like Christmas and Summer gathering (and Trooping lunch) is where the expectation and traditions were created. Since W&C became full time, they stopped alternating between Berkshire and Norfolk and have consistently participated in the Christmas walk and service. They also always go up to Balmoral, often timing it to be there at the same time as the Tindalls and Phillips.

Interestingly, Zara and Peter and their families were not there today. Of their generation of royals, William, Zara and Peter grew up together and their children are broadly in the same age range. William comes across as keener to build a 'tribe of close cousins' for his children with their children similar to what he had growing up wit Peter and Zara. Whatever their reason for not attending, it must have been bolstered by the fact their closer cousins weren't going to be there. I didn't think their absence stood out at all. There was only Andrew's children and one of Edward's at the service of their generation and none of George's generation. They and their 'tribe' were not there.

Expectations and traditions evolve as well such as Catherine starting the tradition of the annual Christmas carol service. Later down the line, there will be chatter of either George's son 'breaking tradition' by not attending the carol service and queries whether he still believes in Christmas. C'est la vie.

William is committed to his family and heritage, whether we see him do things a specific way or not. When he becomes King, we'll have a better sense which traditions he's canning and which ones he's maintaining or introducing. For now, he's just decided not to spend this Easter at Windsor. We don't know what the family is doing or whether they attended a service somewhere. They could very well be doing something that has become a tradition for their family, just out of the public eye.
 
muriel said:
Not quite sure how you got to disestablishment, but the reality is that most Britons are not church goers any more, barring wedding, christenings and funerals. The CoE just does not occupy the central role it once did in the lives of most Britons today. To that extent, if Britain chose to become a secular state, I don't think most people would particularly care. But I fear we are veering way of course here.
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Well if William isn't religious I can see dis establishment quite easily. I'm only an observer though as I'm a Catholic and my church was packed today anyway, standing room only.
 
Alison H said:
I'm not bothered about religion and I couldn't care less whether William goes to church at Easter or not ... but I have to say that, seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, James et al all attending the service at Windsor today, the absence of the Waleses did rather stand out.
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The Princess of Wales is still recovering from her treatment. Maybe she was not feeling well enough to go to church today.
 
We really don't know she could resting. Many people not ill rest over Easter in the UK for the four day weekend. It all makes me think who starts the gossips off in the press? On another matter, I saw Fergie with her arms around Sophie, good press for her.
 
I would have like to have seen the Wales family at the Easter service but I really don't get the feeling that they're interested in going to church that much, apart from Christmas, and the carol service. Of course, that is their choice. But for true Christians, Easter is the more important. I don't think William is that interested, apart from being polite. I don't think he'll even be annointed, at this coronation (may it be years away).

Sophie had her arm around Fergie, as well.
 
They were in Norfolk apparently. Peter wouldn’t have his girls. They’d just been skiing. Kids are probably back next week. Leave the, at it. Easter had weird timing.
 
EllieCat said:
I would have like to have seen the Wales family at the Easter service but I really don't get the feeling that they're interested in going to church that much, apart from Christmas, and the carol service. Of course, that is their choice. But for true Christians, Easter is the more important. I don't think William is that interested, apart from being polite. I don't think he'll even be annointed, at this coronation (may it be years away).

Sophie had her arm around Fergie, as well.
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There are certain things that the new monarch is able to request maybe even order but somehow refusing the annointment , I do not think so.
 
sophie25 said:
I could mean the disestablishment of Church and State too, the end of religious coronations. I could see William and Kate doing what Denmark done when Mary and Frederick became King and Queen . A balcony appearance
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I suppose the story in the Mail about the Wales family having attended church on Easter Sunday may have averted disestablishment of the Church of England.... for now!
 
Countessmeout said:
Sorry but when you have an extreme life of privilege in return for a ceremonial role, attending church once in a blue moon isn't too much to ask.

[.....] William hasn't even stepped up to the basic role of Prince of Wales. Yeah you have kids, guess what people work with kids. If the royal family is going to downsize, then those left actually need to step up and do their work.

Okay so they spend Easter at Amner. There is a church there. Go to Easter church. Even people who aren't overly religious, go to church on holidays. Yes Charles rarely went to church at Windsor before king at Easter. But he went. Durham, York, etc he went on Easter.

Charles: in his time as POW created his own foundation and used the time to devote to his own personal passions as Prince, when not also having to do ceremonial roles as monarch.

William: as prince of Wales is playing part time royal 'well I am not monarch yet' and while they have their foundation, its basically just a way to organize other people's charities they are patrons of.

The way to show 'its a monarchy of the future' is not to 'we do less for as much money if not more'. Its modernized ways of doing work.
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Could I ask what elements of the role you are referring to, has the role ever been clearly defined is there a job description somewhere. ?
 
CyrilVladisla said:
It is very good that Prince William will be representing his father and his country.
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They do not need to announce it in advance, but it would be great if the Princess of Wales also attended the funeral of the Pope.

Whilst there is no obligation or absolute need to do so on her part, increasing her exposure to events of this type would hold her well in the long run, IMO.
 
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