Family of the late Infanta Pilar, The Gomez Acebo Family, General News: June 2024 -


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I cannot think of any other person that might have a better claim to this title but we'll have to wait and see if it is indeed granted to Juan's son. Or would one of Juan's siblings be able to claim this title that previously belonged to their father?
 
Winston Holmes Carney is the Dowager Viscountess , I don't think that Don Juan Gómez-Acebo was divorced?
Nicolás Gómez-Acebo is his father heir and I can't see one of his aunt or uncles laying claim to the title.
 
To me the late Don Fernando's Child was Nicolas , but his Mother was Greek ?
 
Winston Holmes Carney is the Dowager Viscountess , I don't think that Don Juan Gómez-Acebo was divorced?
Nicolás Gómez-Acebo is his father heir and I can't see one of his aunt or uncles laying claim to the title.
They got divorced in 2019. At the time of his death, Juan was living with his partner Teresa Verez Estenson in Miami, so he remained close to his son.

To me the late Don Fernando's Child was Nicolas , but his Mother was Greek ?
No, she is American.
 
I cannot think of any other person that might have a better claim to this title but we'll have to wait and see if it is indeed granted to Juan's son. Or would one of Juan's siblings be able to claim this title that previously belonged to their father?

If a member of a more senior line of the viscomital de la Torre family allowed the viscountcy to bypass him or her when it was rehabilitated for Juan's father at his request, my understanding is that the person's legitimate descendants would have a better claim to it than Juan's son if they chose to apply to succeed, assuming the title was created with the normal rules of succession. But I have no knowledge of the de la Torre family tree.
 
I cannot think of any other person that might have a better claim to this title but we'll have to wait and see if it is indeed granted to Juan's son. Or would one of Juan's siblings be able to claim this title that previously belonged to their father?
It appears that his son has inherited the title.

If a member of a more senior line of the viscomital de la Torre family allowed the viscountcy to bypass him or her when it was rehabilitated for Juan's father at his request, my understanding is that the person's legitimate descendants would have a better claim to it than Juan's son if they chose to apply to succeed, assuming the title was created with the normal rules of succession. But I have no knowledge of the de la Torre family tree.
Juan’s son inherited the viscountcy.
 
To paraphrase Jimmy Carter (may he RIP):

I say to you quite frankly that the time for discrimination of the children born out of wedlock is over :)
 
To paraphrase Jimmy Carter (may he RIP):

I say to you quite frankly that the time for discrimination of the children born out of wedlock is over :)
I think he’s considered legitimate because his parents married.
 
It appears that his son has inherited the title.

Juan’s son inherited the viscountcy.
He has not yet. The announcement of his request to receive the title is posted in the Boletín Oficial del Estado specifically so others that think they might have a claim can come forward before it is awarded to Nicolás. Other potential claimants need to come forward within 30 days of the day the announcement was published (March 6).
 
He has not yet. The announcement of his request to receive the title is posted in the Boletín Oficial del Estado specifically so others that think they might have a claim can come forward before it is awarded to Nicolás. Other potential claimants need to come forward within 30 days of the day the announcement was published (March 6).
Interesting, I’ve seen sources refer to him as the 4th Viscount of La Torre.
 
Interesting, I’ve seen sources refer to him as the 4th Viscount of La Torre.
Those sources are mistaken in that case; the BOE announcement that was posted upthread and started this discussion is very clear. It has been 'requested' but not yet 'granted'. Only after a BOE announcement that he indeed will succeed his father as Viscount de la Torre (if applicable), will he be the next Viscount.
 
Adding to Somebody's post: As mentioned in the official notice, there is a legally required thirty-day waiting period during which anyone else who thinks they have a better claim to the title may also file a claim. If no other claims are filed, or if the government deems Juan to have a better claim than anyone else who files a claim, then Juan's son will be granted permission from the government to inherit the title. :flowers:
 
Under the modern nobiliary law, successions to titles of nobility are not automatic even in cases where it seems clear who is the rightful heir. In this case, Juan's widow recently filed a claim to the title on her son's behalf (see the official notice linked in lula's post). But, as mentioned in the official notice, there is a legally required thirty-day waiting period during which anyone else who thinks they have a better claim to the title may also file a claim. If no other claims are filed, or if the government deems Juan to have a better claim than anyone else who files a claim, then Juan's son will be granted permission from the government to inherit the title. :flowers:
I see, then the sources that have referred to Nicolás as the 4th Viscount of La Torre are currently incorrect.
 
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