monaco70s said:Jean Raymond Gottlieb is his name. In fact you're right we haven't heard anything at all from him, the last time I remember we got any pics of him were when he and Camille went to the beach.
Avalon said:I know Jean Gottlieb is supposed to be Camille's Dad but it was never confirmed, right?
michelle said:Stephanie never confirmed it publically because she considered this question to be a private matter. But he is Camille's father. I've seen him with her often times and there were also a lot of pictures of him taking his little girl out or fetching her at kindergarten or school.
CasiraghiTrio said:It is very admirable the way JR Gottlieb is completely silent about his connection to Stephanie. He never says a word to the press and keeps as low a profile as possible. That is really awesome. Camille's daddy has a lot of class.
mapie said:Definitely. It's really quite a shame that things didn't work out with him and Stephanie, because he seems like he's someone who would deserve her. Much like her first love, Paul Belmondo, many years ago, who always took wonderful care of her and kept their relationship very private and personal. I've always though she had excellent taste in choosing those two, and too bad it had to end, in both cases.
sebastian said:... Caroline treated Stephanie badly all her life even when they were children. She doesn't care if Stephanie feels bad, if she's ok or not. She doesn't care at all about Stephanie."...
. .. I don't want to believe that and it just doesn't seem logic to me because it is contrary to all I've seen and heard.
That they live distant lives, okay ... but , Caro not caring a bit about Steph ? NO WAY! If so, why did Steph come back from the US when Stefano died and support her sister??? And why did Caroline move into Steph's hospital room after the accident and took care of her?....
michelle said:In june 2005 Daniel talked to the french magazine VSD.
You can find the interview here ...it's in french, so sorry
Among other things he says:
" I don't want my children to have a bad image of their father and their mother.I think it is essential that they can be proud of their parents. Especially now that they are 11, 12, 13 years old and they understand everything... and people don't hesitate to tell them what they think about their family."
He says that Rainier was very reserved and distant even with his family.
Then he is asked if there was no family warmth in the Grimaldi Family... if Rainier wasn't a warm -hearted dad or granddad ....and he answers:
" Not with Stephanie neither with his grandkids. He wasn't a granddad like others. He was a prince and he was very ill. I can't describe him really. It's impossible."
-> So he really wants to tell us here that Rainier and Stephanie weren't close. Hmmmm.. strange....
...because in the next sentence when asked if the kids were touched by his death Daniel answers:
" Yes, but they told me the most hurtful thing for them was to see their mother suffering"
These two answers are contredictory: Why would Stephanie be suffering so much if she hasn't had the paternal love and warmth ( as Daniel said in the first answer)!!??
Still there is one thing that make me wonder even more:
He claims to be best friends with Steph ( and I don't even doubt they are close ) and she tells him all her secretes and if she has a problem it's him she turns to etc.
I think then I just don't understand Steph's part in this story.
In every interview she gave she told the world about how much love there is between her and her father, how close they are/were and how warm and full of understanding their relation was...
Then comes Daniel and tells completely contredictory things, the plain and simple opposite ... and she doesn't react, goes on being his best friend, vacations with him etc.
Okay, she wants the best for her kids ... understood...Louis and Pauline are clever kids... don't they see anything strange in all this?
I can't see clearIt just leaves me wondering, like Seb ...
Worst thing is: We should know that we should mind our own business and go on caring about ourselves...guess the reason why we/ I still bother is that we/ I like Stephanie... and would love to understand...
I think the truth can be found somewhere in the middle of all of this...not sure.
Grace said:I'm sorry, but I agree only partially with your interpretation; I'm sure Daniel has a very big ego, and he said himself that he is very maschilist (does this word exist in English?), meaning that he believes in a strong separation of roles between men and women and that he likes women who stay at home for their husbands and kids while the man "earns a living", so I don't doubt he is bothered by Steph public role and predominance in the couple (maybe its cheap psychology, but I firmly believe one of the reasons of his loud betrayal was that he felt the need to reassure himself that HE was the man, and he "ruled" in his family; very common behaviour in couples where the woman is more successful or powerful than the man).
On the other hand I have the strong impression that he takes every opportunity to talk about the Grimaldis because that's what the public is interested in and he very much likes the spot light: when asked about Steph, his kids and her family he could very well say "no comment", many people do that, but then, noone would want to interview him anymore because let's face it, what is there so interesting to hear from Danny other than Princely family gossip? He's handsome and all, but other than that, not so interesting. So in my opinion, and I don't necesserely think to be right, he just takes advantage of the situation to take part in reality shows, to be interviewed, to find producers for his music and acting career.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but after 10 years of hearing him talking always of the same things, the thing gets almost pathetic, and annoying.
Kisses
BTW, very nice pics!
michelle said:Daniel is here again:
http://www.aktuelle.de/aktuelle/content/aktuelle_topstories.php?sid=2770
He would love to marry Steph again....but she would have to ask Albert for permission...and Caroline would put a veto ....but 76% of the frech would favour a re-mariage ....
However...another interview where Daniel says how close they are...etc.
+ that Steph was forced to divorce him .....
...this is strange because in his book he says explicitly that it was her decision to divorce and that she was not forced ....
I read it too, Michelle. But my only thought was "Daniel, please stop talking about it". No matter what the truth actually is, we do not need any more interviews like that, do we?michelle said:
Grace said:Daniel must be out of money: in a new interview to Chi, he says Steph is not a very good mother, and their kids are upset by her unstable love life and her too many boyfriends...
Grace said:He has some commercial activities (a disco-bar in Cannes, etc...); plus he's been trying for years to be a singer and actor and he has earned some money taking part in two reality shows and hosting a tv show in Italy.
He doesn't come from a very wealthy family, as far as I know.
Kisses
ETA: I got the mag; some more news: Steph's kids, particularly Louis, are upset by the many boyfriends Steph brings home; they prefer to spend time with their fathers. Caro would be the "mind" behind DD and Steph's divorce; she tried to seduce Daniel (supposedly between 1990 and 1991 when he and Steph got together), he turned her down and she's been hating him since then (he said she is not attractive). Andrea and Pierre would be troublemakers, he says he's always known it.
A lot of dirt on the family, as usual, but it is not a direct interview, it's things Daniel apparently said to his usual interviewer (Daphne Barak) throuout several meetings.
cro girl said:I have just ended up reading an interview with Daniel Ducruet ( Gloria magazine ) and I have to say I have never read so much BS in one place for a long time. It is where he calls Steph a bad mom but since the interview was done with Gloria's reporter I think it might be another one. He said that Steph was a good mom but that she changed, that the kids, especially Louisdidn't like that she brings so many men home. That even little Camile wanted to live with him because she couldn't see her own father. He told that she should start doing something useful for a change, like charity. (?)
For Caroline he said that she is a snob who thinks that she is beautiful, but is ugly instead. And that in the early 90s she tried to seduce him but he turned her down and then did everything she could to separate him and Steph. He said that the incident with the striper which lead to the divorce was aranged by Caroline.
About Albert he said that he should change how things are done in Monaco (business) and that he (Daniel) and some of his pals knew someone with whom everybody who wants to start a business should talk. He said that bribe and coruption are the way things are dealt with in Monaco at the present time.
The last question he was asked was if he had ever seen a picture of Caroline's kids taking drugs. He said that he knew about that for a long time but wouldn't say anything else.
Oh, and the most important, in the part of the interview where he bashes Steph, this is what he said about himself - I'm a good father, I have fun with my kids!
Personally I don't have one single shread of respect toward him. God knows what he puts into those kid's minds when he is with them.