Crown Prince Christian, News and Current Events Part 1: January 2024 -

[An Ard Ri]

This is his second Prince-Regency?

 

[Muhler]

Is this the longest he has been regent? It is interesting that this is coming up his first week of military training.

Does the Crown Prince automatically become the regent if he is in the country when the King is not, or can one of the rigsforstanders step in if the Crown Prince is in the country but occupied, like if Christian is in an intense phase of his training or is off in a remote location doing maneuvers.

I believe it is the longest yet, yes.
The Crown Prince automatically becomes Regent the moment the Monarch is out of the country or is indisposed. If the CP is indisposed as well or out of the country or otherwise prevented from carrying out his duties (like crawling through mud in Jutland somewhere or on a ship or ill) a Rigsforstander will be appointed.
It shouldn't be a problem for Christian at this phase of his training. They are right now learning what way a rifle should point and knowing the difference between a sergeant and a general (not that big if you are a recruit) while marching around the town of Slagelse at ungodly hours singing up the sun.
What happens is that someone from the court will drive to the barracks, call for Christian, who will then sign a bill making it law. Christian will then return to his duties while the courtier will drive back to Copenhagen.
- When his father was Regent during his eight months bootcamp to become a Frogman (the actual training to be a fully educated Frogman took another year after graduating) he was required to run to the gate where the courtier waited with the papers. He was allowed to stand still while signing the papers though, then run back to whatever he was doing.
Christian however is allowed to walk.

In a country where we have had conscription (for all, not only peasants) for some 180 years, there are of course a lot of songs about being a soldier, simply because most men were conscripts.
They are not about glory or blood and guts but often humorist songs about the poor tired conscript who is a bit hopless as a soldier longing to be home with his sweetheart.
Here is an example of one of the absolute most well known. Åh Marie. - Oh Marie, I Wanna go Home to You.
It's about a hopeless recruit who is longing for his sweetheart, Marie. The song is in dialect. I think you can follow the story without understanding a word.

Another song from my early childhood is Hello, Mr general. - About a sweetheart who want to phone a general to send her boyfriend home, as he isn't much of a soldier and is of much more use at home with her. The general after all has more than 100.000 men, but she only has him.

And finally the most beautiful music video I know about a conscript returning home to his village. It's Italian though.

 

[ricarda]

This is his second Prince-Regency?

No, he was Regent during his father's visit to Poland, during the state visits to Sweden and Norway, during the Olympic Games in Paris and just recently during a weekend in January.

 

[hereditarytitles]

I believe it is the longest yet, yes.
The Crown Prince automatically becomes Regent the moment the Monarch is out of the country or is indisposed. If the CP is indisposed as well or out of the country or otherwise prevented from carrying out his duties (like crawling through mud in Jutland somewhere or on a ship or ill) a Rigsforstander will be appointed.
It shouldn't be a problem for Christian at this phase of his training. They are right now learning what way a rifle should point and knowing the difference between a sergeant and a general (not that big if you are a recruit) while marching around the town of Slagelse at ungodly hours singing up the sun.
What happens is that someone from the court will drive to the barracks, call for Christian, who will then sign a bill making it law. Christian will then return to his duties while the courtier will drive back to Copenhagen.
- When his father was Regent during his eight months bootcamp to become a Frogman (the actual training to be a fully educated Frogman took another year after graduating) he was required to run to the gate where the courtier waited with the papers. He was allowed to stand still while signing the papers though, then run back to whatever he was doing.
Christian however is allowed to walk.

In a country where we have had conscription (for all, not only peasants) for some 180 years, there are of course a lot of songs about being a soldier, simply because most men were conscripts.
They are not about glory or blood and guts but often humorist songs about the poor tired conscript who is a bit hopless as a soldier longing to be home with his sweetheart.
Here is an example of one of the absolute most well known. Åh Marie. - Oh Marie, I Wanna go Home to You.
It's about a hopeless recruit who is longing for his sweetheart, Marie. The song is in dialect. I think you can follow the story without understanding a word.

Another song from my early childhood is Hello, Mr general. - About a sweetheart who want to phone a general to send her boyfriend home, as he isn't much of a soldier and is of much more use at home with her. The general after all has more than 100.000 men, but she only has him.

And finally the most beautiful music video I know about a conscript returning home to his village. It's Italian though.

Thank you for this clarification, and with amusing anecdotes to boot. For someone like me who lives in a republic, these are really very interesting and unusual traditional customs. I'll have to find out how things would work in our country if our Federal President were absent; presumably the laws would be passed without him. What would happen if you couldn't reach one of the royals? Would the bill then be stopped or postponed?

 

[Queen Claude]

Thanks @Muhler for your response above. So given the right circumstance there can be a rigsforstander if the Crown Prince is in the country.

My recall was that his cousins dropped out early but probably not this early, so I assumed that things were intense from day one. Also his cousins realizing that a military career is not for them was probably as much, if not more of a factor than the intensity.

 

[Muhler]

Thank you for this clarification, and with amusing anecdotes to boot. For someone like me who lives in a republic, these are really very interesting and unusual traditional customs. I'll have to find out how things would work in our country if our Federal President were absent; presumably the laws would be passed without him. What would happen if you couldn't reach one of the royals? Would the bill then be stopped or postponed?

That hopefully should never happen.
But if it were, the next adult in the Line of Succession, if in country, would be approached and by an act of Parliament be made Rigsforstander. Or one of those who are already cleared to be Rigsforstander will be appointed. But long before that the Monarch should hopefully be found and brought back to DK. The Monarch can hopefully also be contacted and then appoint a Rigsforstander by phone, with witnesses.
If no royals are to be found at all, the Parliament will appoint a Rigsforstander. An emergency act by Parliament.
But until then the bill cannot become law.

Thanks @Muhler for your response above. So given the right circumstance there can be a rigsforstander if the Crown Prince is in the country.

My recall was that his cousins dropped out early but probably not this early, so I assumed that things were intense from day one. Also his cousins realizing that a military career is not for them was probably as much, if not more of a factor than the intensity.

That has been debated in DK media and the agreement all over the line is that Christian cannot opt out of the military, barring a serious accident of course. It's simply not an option. Christian will have to grit his teeth and at the absolute minimum least go through bootcamp. Like hundreds of thousands before him, who couldn't opt out either.

 

[Queen Claude]

Thanks. I did not mean to imply Christian would dropout, just that I had, perhaps erroneously, the impression that basic training for the Danish military is very intense from day one, and that it would be a lot on Christian's plate to also be serving as regent for several days. But it sounds like from your previous post that it is not as intense as I was thinking in the very early days.

 

[Muhler]

Thanks. I did not mean to imply Christian would dropout, just that I had, perhaps erroneously, the impression that basic training for the Danish military is very intense from day one, and that it would be a lot on Christian's plate to also be serving as regent for several days. But it sounds like from your previous post that it is not as intense as I was thinking in the very early days.

Oh, I didn't think you were.
Bootcamp for conscripts is of course intensive, partly because there is a lot to learn and partly because for most conscripts this is the first time they are truly away from home, the first time anyone is actually commanding them what to do and that there are consequences if you don't. 50 years ago most conscripts would have been used to getting up early, do some physically demanding work, have been apprentices or had a job, where they were often treated unfairly. So it's often quite a bit of a culture shock. On average about a quarter drops out during boot camp.
But as practically all conscripts are volunteers, they are highly motivated and willing and keen to try things and do things. They are usually also pretty bright as the military can pick who they think are the better ones among the volunteers. There is for example a three year waiting list to serve as a conscript aboard Dannebrog.
For many it's a rite of passage, something to be proud of later on. A common saying in the military is that you can do twice as much as you yourself think you can do and ten times as much as your mother think you can do.
So yes, they will be under pressure, stressed, dirty and tired.
Even though it is expected that the sergeants yell a bit, that's part of the fun, there is little constant screaming and yelling. The NCOs simply tell you what to do. Instead you mainly perform through peer pressure.

In my time most were not volunteers, and it was very difficult to drop out. But the peer pressure to perform was very much there. I had an (conscript) NCO at some point, who was a square man with a square head and who could out-yell everybody and everything else. To our endless amusement he studied theology. He was also the NCO all of us literally would have followed without hesitation. Another NCO later on was nicknamed Daffy, (after the duck) he too didn't look heroic at all, but we would follow him anywhere.
Conscription nowadays is aimed at getting most who a suited to complete, while weeding out those who are unsuited. I.e. rambos, spoiled momma-boys, the weirdos, those who can't work in a team and those who haven't got the motivation. So it's demanding but no more demanding than a normal, fit person, who is motivated can complete it.

Nikolai and Felix wanted be officers of the reserves, so their bootcamp was even more intense, because they were surrounded by people who very ambitious and very highly motivated. They were at the beginning of what would have been an increasingly demanding career. That didn't suit them, so they dropped out.
Personally I think they gave up too soon. At least complete bootcamp, then decide. IMO you win by accomplishing or at least by trying your very best to accomplish.
- Again, that is not an option Christian has. - Right or wrong, the public expects him to at the very least to complete bootcamp.

 

[Blog Real]

Crown Prince Christian will act as regent this weekend while his father, King Frederik X, is on a private stay abroad, according to the Royal Household.

H.K.H. Kronprinsen er regent

H.K.H. Kronprinsen er regent. H.K.H. Kronprinsen er regent

www.kongehuset.dk

Sådan kan det lade sig gøre: Kronprins Christian er både regent og travl værnepligtig

Kronprins Christian er i disse dage igen både værnepligtig og regent, mens hans far, kong Frederik, er på et privat udlandsophold.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[Izzie]

Per an update to the royal calendar, Crown Prince Christian will be regent March 3 to 5. This is obviously due to the King and Queen being abroad for their State Visit to Finland.