Charlotte Casiraghi & Family Current Events Part 46: November 2024 -


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I have tried to transcribe her text, which was difficult because I couldn't always find out where the sentence began or ended. I translated with Deepl. translation from French to English. It is far from perfect but we get an idea what she said.

"A cliché is to think that these women, because they are privileged and protected, are not necessarily exposed to violence. And as we know, domestic violence affects all social classes. And so, often, these women are not necessarily heard, or in any case, we may be less vigilant. So that's the first cliché. The question of emancipation can also mean that a woman with comfortable financial means who has access to an education too has to find her own way and that will be just as difficult when there's a family commitment to children. This idea is even more prevalent among the privileged classes. Because they don't necessarily have to go out to work, it might be better to stay at home and look after the children, since there's no economic necessity. So there are also things that can weigh on women from more privileged backgrounds".
 
No clue what she said but I love how expressive she is. She has a very lovely demeanor about her in the video.
 
I don't believe in the theory of "the absence of a father" is the reason why people are unable or have problems to find a stable relationship. I know it is often used as an explanation. From personal experience, both family and friends I cannot find confirmation for this theory.... But it also could happen that she'll be alone. Look at her mother and her aunt. Sadly for both of them they are single women while getting older.

I think Charlotte and her current boyfriend look like a loving couple. If the gender were reversed no one would be expecting a 'male' Charlotte to stop having affairs and enjoying life after the first affair didn't work out as expected.

Re Caroline, she is living the curse of every child, we end up becoming our parents. She is not the playgirl of ages ago but has settled into the Grace Kelly role of being the matronly first lady of Monaco. That will be Charlotte someday when she gets older. In the meantime, Charlotte should enjoy the single life. The good thing with her is she belongs to a family that is very united and protective of one another.

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I think Charlotte and her current boyfriend look like a loving couple. If the gender were reversed no one would be expecting a 'male' Charlotte to stop having affairs and enjoying life after the first affair didn't work out as expected.

Re Caroline, she is living the curse of every child, we end up becoming our parents. She is not the playgirl of ages ago but has settled into the Grace Kelly role of being the matronly first lady of Monaco. That will be Charlotte someday when she gets older. In the meantime, Charlotte should enjoy the single life. The good thing with her is she belongs to a family that is very united and protective of one another.

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I think I have been somewhat misunderstood. By “sadly enough” I meant Caroline's two failed marriages and the tragic death of her second husband, with whom she was obviously very happy. Stephanie wasn't lucky with her marriages either. I would have wished for them, as I wish for everyone, that they had found a partner to share their twilight years with. I hope for both sisters that they have found contentment. And so I do for Charlotte in the future. It is also my opinion, that you don't necessarily need a partner to lead a happy and fulfilled life.
I agree that they have close and good family relationships with each other and so do their children. That is certainly very important for a good life.
 
I think I have been somewhat misunderstood. By “sadly enough” I meant Caroline's two failed marriages and the tragic death of her second husband, with whom she was obviously very happy. Stephanie wasn't lucky with her marriages either. I would have wished for them, as I wish for everyone, that they had found a partner to share their twilight years with. I hope for both sisters that they have found contentment. And so I do for Charlotte in the future. It is also my opinion, that you don't necessarily need a partner to lead a happy and fulfilled life.
I agree that they have close and good family relationships with each other and so do their children. That is certainly very important for a good life.
Thanks for the clarification! Charlotte's mom and aunt had so many tragic moments before Charlotte was even aware of the world around her as a child it's a miracle how their lives didn't spiral out of control to present day. I think it was how close the three siblings Albert, Stephanie and Caroline are that they saved themselves from the worst.
This provided close relation between siblings gave Charlote, her siblings and cousins, a stable family group to rely on.

And Charlotte and her Grimaldi generation continue now what they learned from their parents, the extended family is there to support you in good times and bad times.
 
Please get back to the topic of this thread - thank you!
 
Interesting, I hadn't known that. Something I can share. I have been reading for years almost all of English literature of that time, Eliot, Gaskell, Trollope, Dickens, H. James, and from the US Edith Wharton.
I got the feeling, listening to her speak, that she very strongly identifies with tragic romantic heroines from that time period...like Tolstoy's Anna Karenina.

A woman willing to defy convention and societal rules in her search for personal fulfillment.🙄🤔
 
I have a copy of Les Fleurs du Mal by Charles Baudelaire. She recommended it, and I am a lifelong poetry enthusiast. I have to admit that it's not the type of poetry that touches my spirit like Langston Hughes, Robert Frost, Emily Dickinson, Dylan Thomas, Lord Byron and so many others. It's better if read in the original French.

The same with Marguerite Duras' The Lover, which I read last summer. It's haunting and evocative...it left me feeling melancholy. And it's very much about a relationship.

Thank you! I read Fleurs du Mal when I studied French. I can see what you mean, it is very different from Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and others. It hasn't really stuck with me either... But I do think it's better in French, yes.

Marguerite Duras - The Lover, I like that way better than Fleurs du Mal. I think Duras had a very interesting life that influenced her books.

She recommends many books by women writers (hardly any male ones) from the past, e.g. Virginia Woolf or Elizabeth Bowen “The house in Paris”. I have read most of Woolf's novels, but am not really a fan.
Contemporary female writers are Zadie Smith, who I have read “White Teeth” and “On Beauty”, which I liked. She recommends Smith's latest book “Grand Union” and then a book by Leila Slimani, a French-Moroccan author, which I read with the German title “Dann schlaf auch Du”. An interesting book but also very depressing. I will soon be ordering her recommendation “Acts of desperation” by Megan Nolan. I read “Les fleurs de mal” when I was 20, but I wasn't that enthusiastic about it. I prefer novels, seems like poetry belongs to my past :)
If I may make a personal recommendation (off topic, I know) I recommend "The personal librarian" by Marie Benedict and Victoria Murray and all books by US author Ann Patchett. I could imagine that Charlotte would like these books but maybe hasn't discovered them yet.

I love Virginia Woolf's books, I think the way she wrote was beautiful. I don't know Elizabeth Bowen, but will look her up.

I have read "On Beauty" and "The Fraud" by Zadie Smith. I'm glad Charlotte recommended her, certainly one of the best writers of our time in my opinion!!

I have seen Leila Slimani books at the bookstore, but haven't read any so far. I haven't heard of "Acts of desperation".

Thank you for your recommendations, I will definitely be taking a look! 🙂

Interesting, I hadn't known that. Something I can share. I have been reading for years almost all of English literature of that time, Eliot, Gaskell, Trollope, Dickens, H. James, and from the US Edith Wharton.

I love George Eliot! I also liked North & South.
 
It is a pity that her explanations are not available in English. Unfortunately, my French is so rusty that I only understand bits and pieces.

I have read some of her book recommendations. But what is very clear is that she recommends books that almost always deal with the difficult relationship between men and women. Perhaps this reflects her own problem with relationships. She is constantly dealing with it, is probably a very complicated person who always wants to discuss a lot. And that's perhaps why she has failed with her relationships so far. Most men don't want endless discussions, I guess.

But, of course, these are just my personal impressions. I like her a lot, I think she's beautiful and I'm impressed by her literary knowledge and her engagements introducing new books to people who are interested in reading what is not mainstream literature
If you watch the video on youtube it has subtitles.
 
Thank you for the advice, I will try to find it. But since the interview wasn't that long I guess that whatever I tried to understand is probably essentially what she said.
 
Dimitri just gave an interview to Paris Match, of course due to forum rules I can't paste the whole thing here, and it's not up on their website yet, so I'll share some bits.
To his inner circle, Dimitri had confided in particular "having lost control" at the time of their divorce.

Dimitri Rassam's entourage assures that their separation, which was not easy for him, "changed him". According to him, with "age, we change our view of love". "I no longer believe in total and permanent fusion in a couple", he admits. To this day, his priorities are no longer the same and the latter would be much more attentive with the people who are dear to him. As for his divorces, he does not see them as failures, quite the contrary.

"We cannot talk about failure, when we have had a strong love story and we have wonderful children", analyzed the father. "But we are altered by what we experience, and the questioning is dizzying"

Fairy tales do not exist in reality, but we must continue to believe in great love stories. In a marriage, we know that there will be trials, but when we are young, we are not fully aware of them.

Of his previously mentioned relationships, Dimitri Rassam has almost no regrets: "I can question my behavior, but there is not much that I would do differently in terms of romantic choices. In a couple, it is necessary to manage to preserve what is beautiful no matter what happens. My greatest anxiety is not the fear of failure, it is the fear of experiencing nothing".
 
Dimitri just gave an interview to Paris Match, of course due to forum rules I can't paste the whole thing here, and it's not up on their website yet, so I'll share some bits.
To his inner circle, Dimitri had confided in particular "having lost control" at the time of their divorce.
Thank you! Interesting snippets. The divorce does not seem to be acrimonious. He seems determined to be positive, despite some unavoidable regret in how things turned out. Just my impression, of course.
 
Thank you! Interesting snippets. The divorce does not seem to be acrimonious. He seems determined to be positive, despite some unavoidable regret in how things turned out. Just my impression, of course.
That was my impression as well, he's certainly doing wonderfully well in his career, may he do just as well in his personal life. Darya and Balthazar will certainly benefit from their father's positive outlook.
 
Dimitri just gave an interview to Paris Match, of course due to forum rules I can't paste the whole thing here, and it's not up on their website yet, so I'll share some bits.
To his inner circle, Dimitri had confided in particular "having lost control" at the time of their divorce.
He expresses himself very carefully in this interview and also mentions what a good relationship he had with Raphael. I think it's a sad story. I still hope that maybe they can reconcile.
I didn't know they were officially divorced until now. It must be depressing for him that his second marriage is now over too.
 
Dimitri just gave an interview to Paris Match, of course due to forum rules I can't paste the whole thing here, and it's not up on their website yet, so I'll share some bits.
To his inner circle, Dimitri had confided in particular "having lost control" at the time of their divorce.
I hope the term "lost control" does not mean what I think it does.😧🤔

But Dimitri sounds thoughtful and sensitive. He and Charlotte formed a gorgeous couple. The fact that he and Charlotte were so bonded with one anothers' children is one of the most painful things about their split.

I had high hopes for them, and I am sad it didn't work out. It sounds like they are civilly divorced, but since they married in the Church they are still married by church law unless one of them seeks an annulment.🙁

The fact that Dimitri spoke of his private life is astonishing. He literally never does that in public.
 
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I'm glad to see that the separation wasn't too bad. From the sound of it, it looks like they are already divorced. That was quick! But I don't know monegasque laws on the matter
 
Interesting interview. Wonder what he means by lost control? Concentrated too much on career with barely any consideration to the marriage?

I must admit I was wrong because he takes responsibility. I was convinced it was all Charlotte's fault and she cheated.
 
We really don’t know what Dimitri means by’ lost control’ We know that Charlotte had/has an affair. We even don’t know who filed the divorce. But it seems that the divorce is final. So sad. I feel so sorry for Charlotte’s sons.
 
Hi everyone. I thought you'd be interested in this conversation Charlotte took part in



I tried to understand as best with the English captions. She's smiling in this one a lot and having fun.

What is she talking about in general? Does she come across well?
 
Hi everyone. I thought you'd be interested in this conversation Charlotte took part in



I tried to understand as best with the English captions. She's smiling in this one a lot and having fun.

What is she talking about in general? Does she come across well?
I think this meeting of philosophers took place last November in Agen. Present was also Manon Garcia, a professor for philosophy at the University in Berlin, who wrote many philosophy books .
I found a report about the discussion in French paper "Petit Bleu" which gives you a summary of what Charlotte is talking about. The main topic is "gender equality, the central "war" between the sexes" and how female philosophers can contribute something to the issue if they were listened to. She thinks that philosophy is still too strongly male dominated. At least that is my impression.

 
Charlotte attended the Chanel show in Paris today, January 28:


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This is the happiest & most relaxed I’ve seen her in a long time. Even when taking photos with other people at the event, she looks so vibrant & lively.


Charlotte Casiraghi attending the Chanel Haute Couture Spring Summer 2025 fashion show in Paris, January 28th 2025.
Again, she’s so happy, radiant & comfortable. It’s nice to see her with a big smile on her face.
 
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I got the feeling, listening to her speak, that she very strongly identifies with tragic romantic heroines from that time period...like Tolstoy's Anna Karenina.

A woman willing to defy convention and societal rules in her search for personal fulfillment.🙄🤔
I think at time she comes across as ungrateful. If she was more emotionally intelligent amd aware, she'd realise she's in the lucky 1%. If she was open about how privileged she is.

I remember Caroline's interview with Barbara Walters and at that time she had a warmth and sense of humour. She even said we have very good lives and my problems are nothing compared to the tragedies of the world. She was even nice about Grace in that interview.

In motion she seems much nicer and warmer and I'm sure the translation of her interviews can distort things.
 
I think at time she comes across as ungrateful. If she was more emotionally intelligent amd aware, she'd realise she's in the lucky 1%. If she was open about how privileged she is.

I remember Caroline's interview with Barbara Walters and at that time she had a warmth and sense of humour. She even said we have very good lives and my problems are nothing compared to the tragedies of the world. She was even nice about Grace in that interview.

In motion she seems much nicer and warmer and I'm sure the translation of her interviews can distort things.
Talking about Charlotte:
I didn't get the impression that she was ungrateful, she is definitely aware that she is privileged and also knows that there are other women who don't have these privileges. But people living such a sheltered life in luxury, never having to worry about money, job, daycare for the children, cannot really know how an average woman is living and what troubles she might have.

She seems very self-confident and charming to me. The issue of unequal treatment of women and men seems to be very important to her, although she only engages in philosophical considerations. She is not someone who campaigns against forced marriages, female circumcision and violence against women, for example.
 
She's definitely more on the intellectual critical thinking side of things rather than feeling and empathetic.

Why should she be no nice about her mother?
Caroline has not been very complimentary of Grace in recent years at all. The vibe I had all these years were they weren't as close as she was to Rainier. They clashed a lot apparently.
 
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