Andrea, Pierre, Charlotte and Friends


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aww. I liked her. Valentine and the skinny blond dude made a cute couple.
 
Lafawnduh said:
aww. I liked her. Valentine and the skinny blond dude made a cute couple.

Well we don't actually know that they were dating. I sort of have the feeling that Pierre had a crush on Valentine but Valentine felt that she was just too old for Pierre.

Oh and that "skinny blond dude" remark was funny.:p
 
Lafawnduh said:
aww. I liked her. Valentine and the skinny blond dude made a cute couple.

i have never think of pierre as "skinny blond dude" :) :) ...but as you mentioned it, i guess you are right!!...but i thought european likes that type of physics..many male models there are skinny aren't they?

by the way, where the heck is valentine? anybody???
 
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I heard in 2004 she was a Dauphine student of economics or business. I didn't hear the Italy studies rumor. Maybe she is studying there for a term or two. Val just dropped off the radar, didn't she? It seemed like it was her dancing with Char at the VIP Room last March. That was the last time they were together, as far as the pictures show. I've wondered if they have cooled to each other? There were times when they were together when they looked happy, but other times when Char looked really miserable. I have wondered if there was a disagreement between them and they stopped hanging out because of it.
 
Hi! I don't think it was Valentine in Viproom with Char. It was Eugenie and the girl with the slightly different-looking face, do you remember?
 
I have another question about the family that I hope somebody will be able to answer.
I understand that Princess Antoinette's sone Christian De Massy has been cut off from the family and banished from Monaco since he wrote a book about the family in 1986 which is why we don't see him at any family events but we do see his daughter Laetizia de Massy from his first marriage to Maria Marta Quintana. It seems as if she lives in Monaco then I presume. Also Christian's second wife Michelle with whom he has two sons, Brice and Antoine, died from drugs.
Does anybody know if Christian is still banished from Monaco, as he was seen in the background at Rainier's funeral, and how close the family are to Laetizia and if Laetizia is still in contact with her father? I guess that since we have seen her with the family at events that even if the family don't talk to her father they still accept her and are close to her.
 
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I have another question about the family that I hope somebody will be able to answer.
I understand that Princess Antoinette's sone Christian De Massy has been cut off from the family and banished from Monaco since he wrote a book about the family in 1986 which is why we don't see him at any family events but we do see his daughter Laetizia de Massy from his first marriage to Maria Marta Quintana. It seems as if she lives in Monaco then I presume. Also Christian's second wife Michelle with whom he has two sons, Brice and Antoine, died from drugs.
Does anybody know if Christian is still banished from Monaco, as he was seen in the background at Rainier's funeral, and how close the family are to Laetizia and if Laetizia is still in contact with her father? I guess that since we have seen her with the family at events that even if the family don't talk to her father they still accept her and are close to her.


I've hear that he was bannished after a bad publication of the family but I think that now I can come in monaco but He'sn't a VIP !:p I saw him at the Prince Rainier's funeral ! but no as a personality of the family !
It's just what I know !:eek:
 
don't we have more pictures of max and hubertus? charlotte and hubertus used to have a "platonic" relationship some time ago? can somebody post it here? :D .. i guess some of you would also have the pics of charlotte, andrea and hubertus at the F1 race...post it here also;)

(sorry, i never download pics of charlotte and her friends, i just took pics of her and her alone:p :D )
 
Does anyone know who the young black lady is with Char? I've seen her with the trio before. Thanks!
 
Coquine said:
Do you know when this picture was taken ? I was wondering how long Charlotte already knows the Wincklers.
It was November 2004 at the birthday party for Juliette. This definitely fits my theory that Char met Felix in the summer 2004. I've been wondering if she didn't meet Cecile first, actually, maybe Eugenie introduced Cecile and Char, and that's how Char met Felix? Or maybe Char met Cecile from school, and Char introduced Cecile to eugenie? whichever way it went, it does seem that Cecile and Eugenie have become best buds, huh?

This is my new favorite thread on the whole forums! Major kudos to the starter of this one. I love seeing the trio with their friends, so happy and relaxed. I don't know who these friends are in this 1997 pic:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=117338&d=1112121391
but I wonder if that is the motorbike that Ernst bought Andrea for his 14th birthday?

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125309&d=1113425568
In this pic, Pierre and ??? I've always thought this must be Chrissy Maillot. does anyone else think so?

1) http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=117336&d=1112121331 (Char and ?Juliette?)

2) http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=117337&d=1112121363 (I don't know who these friends are.)

3) http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=117340&d=1112121436 (must be Chrissy and Char)

4) Char with Cecile and Eugenie again (November-ish 2004)
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124905&d=1113381532

5) Char with the mother of Valentine Pozzo di Borgo. Her name is Sandrine. This was after the Stars Race in 2001 when Char had to pose for lots of pictures being the winner.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=111104&d=1111008982
 
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I really like these photos and i have to say that they would be better if Valentine was with them because i miss them together..
 
Why is it that Char and Valentine don't hang out anymore? Are they not friends?
 
Does anyone knows something more for Charlotte's friend Elodie?Or Cecile?
 
Beatrice said:
Does anyone knows something more for Charlotte's friend Elodie?Or Cecile?

Cecile is Felix' sister, but I do not know anything more. In anyway it is thought that Cecile & Char were first friends, and through Cecile, Char met Felix, and we know the story...
 
louisgarrel said:
^i find stavros to be arrogant...is he?
i heard he paid 100 hundred dollars to a homeless man to pour soda all over himself......and kelly ossbourn called him a spoiled rich kid because he ruined her birthday party when he destroyed the hotel it was tacken place in

I bet Stav and Eugenie went to school in new york, did they? I bet they are both a bit arrogant. I am sure they are sweet to their special close friends, but I have a feeling they also have a bit of an arrogant streak. I think Eugenie, to me, seems like a very sure of herself type of "princess". She grew up with everything, knowing everyone, and she just believes very strongly in her superiority as a fashion "it" girl. I mean, it's better than the reverse, being down on herself, but sometimes that type of attitude can be annoying. I think she is lovely to Charlotte, though, and all of Char's family, and I'm sure she is like a sister to them, as her uncle and Ernst are best buds. And her uncle is Alex's godfather, isn't he?
 
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Grace said:
Isn't Ernst's friend their father? I'm a bit confused...

No, Spyros Niarchos, the friend of Ernst, is their uncle. Their father is Philippe Niarchos. Spyros is the guy who was married to Daphne Guinness and has two little ones from that marriage. Daphne is a cousin of Eugenie and Stav's mother, who is also a guinness.
 
But I think Ernst's friend is Philippe...he had a relationship with one of the Borromeo sisters, an Italian aristocrat related to the Agnelli family. Caro and Ernst were his guest in Venice some years ago. Anyway, I'm not sure of what I'm saying, I'm going to check again.

Thanks for the information,

Kisses
 
I think Ernst friend is Spyros, because he was Ernst's best man at the wedding with Caroline...
 
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i love these pics of val because i love that jacket she has on....i'm trying to remake it...so if anyone has more pics of her in that jacket it would be helpful
pluse i love how andrea looks at her in the 2nd pic...i wish he would look at me that way..hehehe..

here are some pics of eugenie and ciecel i found too








sorry they are small..i don't know why it does that
 
when was the 3rd and 4th picture taken? And why Tatiana wore like that? :eek:
 
auroraDaniel said:
when was the 3rd and 4th picture taken? And why Tatiana wore like that? :eek:

all pictures were taken in early 2005 in Mexico City and they are dressed as pirates, check out pictures 2 and 5 for Pirate Andrea and Bucaneer Ernst:D:D
 
Grace said:
But I think Ernst's friend is Philippe...he had a relationship with one of the Borromeo sisters, an Italian aristocrat related to the Agnelli family. Caro and Ernst were his guest in Venice some years ago. Anyway, I'm not sure of what I'm saying, I'm going to check again.

Thanks for the information,

Kisses

Caro and Ernst were his guests in Venice possibly in 2001? I remember the Casiraghi trio were there in the summer 2001. There was a young boy a bit taller than Char, but only just, and maybe that was little Stavros, who knows?
 
I know it's been talked about for a bit in this thread and in a few others, but where's Valetine? It's strange because the old pictures with her and the Casiraghis seem to belong to an old and different world (a bit of an exaggeration) when Rainier was still alive and well. What's the most recent picture that's been taken with her and Charlotte, Pierre or Andrea?
 
CasiraghiTrio said:
Caro and Ernst were his guests in Venice possibly in 2001? I remember the Casiraghi trio were there in the summer 2001. There was a young boy a bit taller than Char, but only just, and maybe that was little Stavros, who knows?

No, the trip I'm referring to took place during the Cinema Festival (which is in September) and Caro and Ernst were alone with two couples of friends; they saw the premiere of "From Hell", the movie about Jack the Ripper with Johnny Depp. The trip with all the family was in the summer (on their way to Croatia I think) and they went with Pacha III, while the other time they were on Niarchos' boat...
 
Well as you've started to talk about the movies. What kind of movies do you think they like to watch? You've said that Caro and Ernst watched From Hell, I have to admit she doesn't strike me as the person who likes horrors and dark thrillers, but I might be wrong?
 
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