Alternate History

[Tatiana Maria]

Don’t see why there’s no pretender descended from Maria II, they would be a more senior heir than the Duke of Loulé.

The assembly of Lamego in 1143 resolved that women who married foreign princes would be excluded from the Portuguese throne, in order to protect the kingdom of Portugal from falling under foreign rule. Based on that decision, the general view ever since then was that foreigners were legally barred from sitting the Portuguese throne.

(Miguel I cited this law in his succession war against Maria II, arguing that Maria and her siblings were Brazilian and not Portuguese.)

Both of Queen Maria II’s daughters married foreign German princes who did not take up Portuguese citizenship. Her daughters, after marriage, and their children were German royals. Thus, they were considered to be barred from the Portuguese throne.

I guess his claim isn’t that weak if you believe that Miguel I and his descendants were disclaimed

Well, for certain the Portuguese parliament passed a law of December 19, 1834 permanently excluding Miguel and his descendants from sitting the Portuguese throne or even entering Portugal.

On the other hand, the 1834 law, along with the law that banished King Manoel II in 1910, was repealed by a later Parliament in 1950 – forty years after the fall of the monarchy.

Personally, I don't mind if deposed claimants do not always follow the laws that applied during the monarchy. However, it is noticeable that whenever the head of a deposed family introduces female succession, numerous monarchists protest the change by arguing that no one may change the royal succession laws until the monarchy is restored – but monarchists never seem to protest Miguel’s line being “restored” by changes that were made while Portugal was a republic.

 

[Blog Real]

So an infanta’s children only have succession rights if their father is Portuguese?

I think they might, but I'm not sure. But Infanta Maria Anna's sons were princes of Saxony.
As for Infanta D. Antónia's sons, the eldest was the heir to the Hohenzollern principality. Ferdinand became King of Romania.

The only remaining son was Charles Antonin, who married Princess Josephine of Belgium, daughter of Prince Philip, Count of Flanders.

But none of them claimed the Portuguese throne.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

I think they might, but I'm not sure.

See the post above.

Alternate History

Don’t see why there’s no pretender descended from Maria II, they would be a more senior heir than the Duke of Loulé. The assembly of Lamego in 1143 resolved that women who married foreign princes would be excluded from the Portuguese throne, in order to protect the kingdom of Portugal from...

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[theroyalfly]

Italy: After protests in Italy for the restoration of the monarchy, a referendum is held, and the monarchy wins. Emanuele Filiberto becomes King of Italy and resides with his family in the Quirinal Palace, which becomes his official residence. It is announced that the royal family will make several official visits throughout Italy and that Princess Victoria will begin military training.

Sorry but I hope not. Princess Olga is my only Queen of Italy.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Sorry but I hope not. Princess Olga is my only Queen of Italy.

Yeah the Aostas have stronger support than the main line but I admit that I would want to see Emanuele Filiberto become king because he’s a direct descendant of the previous king and I’d love to see an Italian queen regnant.

 

[An Ard Ri]

What if Louis XVIII had abolished the Salic Law in 1815 and allowed his niece Marie-Thérèse of France, Duchess of Angoulême to succeed him!

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Would Marie-Therese of France's husband, Louis Antoine, Duke of Angouleme have the title of King of France?

 

[An Ard Ri]

Would Marie-Therese of France's husband, Louis Antoine, Duke of Angouleme have the title of King of France?

The Duke was the Last Dauphin of France , under the Salic Law and next line after his father Charles .

 

[meeralakshmi]

Would Marie-Therese of France's husband, Louis Antoine, Duke of Angouleme have the title of King of France?

I think he would due to what was the custom for husbands of queens regnant back then.

 

[An Ard Ri]

I think he would due to what was the custom for husbands of queens regnant back then.

Or joint Monarch as he was also inline to the throne.

 

[Stefan]

Or joint Monarch as he was also inline to the throne.

Like William III and Mary II.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Like William III and Mary II.

And several monarchs of Navarre where the Queen Regnant was married to the King of France.

 

[meeralakshmi]

And several monarchs of Navarre where the Queen Regnant was married to the King of France.

I don’t think so, those kings were only king of Navarre jure uxoris.

 

[Stefan]

And several monarchs of Navarre where the Queen Regnant was married to the King of France.

But have they also been behind each other in the line of succession?

 

[An Ard Ri]

But have they also been behind each other in the line of succession?

Queen Regnants of Navarre who were married to the French Monarch were just Queen Consorts of France
The French Monarch was however joint Monarch of Navarre.
The French succession debarred females but that was not the case in Navarre
The union of crowns between France and Navarre was normally political and to have a buffer zone between France and Iberia, whether the King and queen were behind each other possibly not.

 

[Meraude]

They wouldn’t have considered allowing women into the line of succession?

I think the leftist government of the time would have seized the opportunity to get rid of the monarchy.

At least one Swedish political party, Folkpartiet (the Liberal party), had been running the question about female succession in the Swedish Riksdag since 1952, but as far as I know none of the other parties supported the idea, not even the Conservatives and the Center party until in the 1970s.