A Girl for Prince Carl Philip & Princess Sofia: Princess Ines Marie Lilian Silvia, February 7, 2025


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I like it, Ines is a lovely name. Congratulation to CP and Sofia, finally a little girl after 3 boys.
 
I'm sorry but blaming CP and Sofia for CG's unfortunate little mishap is ridiculous. If CG genuinely hadn't been audibly told of the name ahead of the council of state (which I somehow doubt), the fault lies with the court's procedure of doing these announcements.

His staff is perfectly aware he is dyslexic, it's not rocket science to think having the name pronounced to him is a good idea. He didn't even have to be dyslexic for that to be a good idea – many names have more than one pronunciation. When you can print the name on a little piece of paper, you can pronounce the name to him as well to avoid mistakes like that. But again, while I can buy that the full name is kept a secret, I very much doubt he hadn't been told of her first name beforehand (which makes him fumbling her secondary names after mispronouncing her first name a bit more logical – he knew he had read it out wrong).

But hey, at least Inse is a ready-made nickname for little Ines :lol:

Anyway, hadn't seen Ines coming at all. But just like her brothers, little Ines received a popular name – so it fits their style in that sense! I was sure she would get a longer name to match her brothers' though.

As for her secondary names, I'm thrilled they opted for 4! I'm a hardcore fan of 4+ names for royals. Very stoked to see I was right that Lilian would make it. CP's relationship to Bertil and Lilian was very special and I'm glad to see it reflected in his children's names. As for the combination – definitely prefer the actual combination to the one CG read out loud 😅 As I think they've tried to avoid making it sound too similar to Leonore Lilian Maria (Ines Silvia Lilian Marie definitely has a better flow), it was difficult to make a combination with that particular bunch of names that roll off the tongue. And dare I say, Västerbotten was a given 😉

Didn't have Ines on my bingo card. Too bad that Victoria, CP, and Madeleine didn't select Sybilla as at least one of the four names given to their children.

JMHO
Not even CG passed his mother's name onto either of his two daughters. His relationship with Sibylla was difficult and all 5 of her children considered their nanny Ingrid Björnberg as their mother figure. And as Sibylla died 5 years before Victoria was born, none of CG's children ever had a chance to form a relationship of their own with her. I would've been very surprised if either of them had
 
Didn't have Ines on my bingo card. Too bad that Victoria, CP, and Madeleine didn't select Sybilla as at least one of the four names given to their children.

JMHO

King Carl Gustaf's mother was Sibylla.
Princess Margaretha's daughter's name is Sybilla, Sybilla von Dincklage.

Photos from Te Deum:

Sofia's parents Erik and Marie Hellqvist, Sofia's grandmother Britt Rotman, Sofia's sister Lina with her partner Mattias Wikström and Sofia's younger sister Sara with her husband Martin Bailey were of course at the Deum too:
 
I'm sorry but blaming CP and Sofia for CG's unfortunate little mishap is ridiculous. If CG genuinely hadn't been audibly told of the name ahead of the council of state (which I somehow doubt), the fault lies with the court's procedure of doing these announcements.

His staff is perfectly aware he is dyslexic, it's not rocket science to think having the name pronounced to him is a good idea. He didn't even have to be dyslexic for that to be a good idea – many names have more than one pronunciation. When you can print the name on a little piece of paper, you can pronounce the name to him as well to avoid mistakes like that. But again, while I can buy that the full name is kept a secret, I very much doubt he hadn't been told of her first name beforehand (which makes him fumbling her secondary names after mispronouncing her first name a bit more logical – he knew he had read it out wrong).

But hey, at least Inse is a ready-made nickname for little Ines :lol:

Anyway, hadn't seen Ines coming at all. But just like her brothers, little Ines received a popular name – so it fits their style in that sense! I was sure she would get a longer name to match her brothers' though.

As for her secondary names, I'm thrilled they opted for 4! I'm a hardcore fan of 4+ names for royals. Very stoked to see I was right that Lilian would make it. CP's relationship to Bertil and Lilian was very special and I'm glad to see it reflected in his children's names. As for the combination – definitely prefer the actual combination to the one CG read out loud 😅 As I think they've tried to avoid making it sound too similar to Leonore Lilian Maria (Ines Silvia Lilian Marie definitely has a better flow), it was difficult to make a combination with that particular bunch of names that roll off the tongue. And dare I say, Västerbotten was a given 😉


Not even CG passed his mother's name onto either of his two daughters. His relationship with Sibylla was difficult and all 5 of her children considered their nanny Ingrid Björnberg as their mother figure. And as Sibylla died 5 years before Victoria was born, none of CG's children ever had a chance to form a relationship of their own with her. I would've been very surprised if either of them had
I like the combination of names that you proposed, I think they flow off the tongue a lot easier than the combination they chose, but this is their daughter and they have the right to arrange her names the way they wish. I do like the name Ines, and wonder how they pronounce it, Innis or I-nez. She's sure to be a pretty little girl, that's for sure!
 
Didn't have Ines on my bingo card. Too bad that Victoria, CP, and Madeleine didn't select Sybilla as at least one of the four names given to their children.

JMHO
I am also surprised that none of Princess Sibyllas granddaughters or great-granddaughters through her only son, are named after her…

But i can also see why Carl Philip and Madeleine choosed Lilian over Sibylla as they knew Lilian since they was born, while Sibylla died before they was born and has for them only been a person in the history books and on paintings…
 
First photo of Princess Ines:

 
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I am also surprised that none of Princess Sibyllas granddaughters or great-granddaughters through her only son, are named after her…
Yes I am too as its a sign of continuity with royal names
Most of the names used by the kings children are not traditional in the RF or even sound remotely Swedish.
 
She is gorgeous! And I really like her name.

I am also surprised that none of Princess Sibyllas granddaughters or great-granddaughters through her only son, are named after her…

But i can also see why Carl Philip and Madeleine choosed Lilian over Sibylla as they knew Lilian since they was born, while Sibylla died before they was born and has for them only been a person in the history books and on paintings…
A bit off topic but Sibyllas full name was Sibylla Calma Maria Alice Bathildis Feodora. I have always suspected that the Alice in Victoria‘s full name (Victoria Ingrid Alice Désirée) is a nod to BOTH her grandmothers and not just Alice Sommerlath.
And Princess Adrienne also bears the name Adrienne Josephine Alice though in that case it is possible that it was only meant for Alice Sommerlath.
 
She is gorgeous! And I really like her name.


A bit off topic but Sibyllas full name was Sibylla Calma Maria Alice Bathildis Feodora. I have always suspected that the Alice in Victoria‘s full name (Victoria Ingrid Alice Désirée) is a nod to BOTH her grandmothers and not just Alice Sommerlath.
And Princess Adrienne also bears the name Adrienne Josephine Alice though in that case it is possible that it was only meant for Alice Sommerlath.
And Carl Philip's full name is Carl Philipp Edmund Bertil. And Edmund was among the names of Carl Gustaf's father.
 
Yes I am too as its a sign of continuity with royal names
Most of the names used by the kings children are not traditional in the RF or even sound remotely Swedish.
My issue with the King's grandchildren's names is just that - that they are not traditional in the RF or even sound remotely Swedish - aside from Prince Oscar.

I know that Estelle was a loved member of the extended royal family, but I don't care for it for the eventual heir to the throne and future Queen. I feel like something actually Swedish would be more appropriate. And for the rest, again, they are princes/princesses of Sweden, not private persons.

These are just my opinions, and obviously they can name their kids whatever they choose, I just feel like it's dismissive of their position in society to go for "popular" names that aren't even Swedish for them.
 
Lovely little princess.

Shocked that it was a baby who we knew would have a name out of left field that I predicted, and changed my mind.Ines was second on my list but thought it didn't fit with her brothers and took off.
 
Ines, Gabriel and Alexander are common Swedish names.
I had forgotten Alexander. It is fair to call Alexander a Swedish name, I think.

I think Gabriel and particularly Ines are really modern names used frequently in Sweden today, but I wouldn't call them Swedish names.
 
I had forgotten Alexander. It is fair to call Alexander a Swedish name, I think.

I think Gabriel and particularly Ines are really modern names used frequently in Sweden today, but I wouldn't call them Swedish names.
With that reasoning neither Carl Philip nor Sofia are Swedish names either.
 
I had forgotten Alexander. It is fair to call Alexander a Swedish name, I think.

I think Gabriel and particularly Ines are really modern names used frequently in Sweden today, but I wouldn't call them Swedish names.
What would be a Swedish name according to you?
 
What would be a Swedish name according to you?
There are Scandinavian names. Ingrid, Olav, Sverre, Haakon etc

Simply because names are popular in country doesn't make them Swedish. Ines is popular but is Spanish. This far from throne see no reason to choose anything but what they like.

Now if CP couple? Be like if William and Kate had baby four and named it Prince Olav. May be royal name but for British prince?
 
There are Scandinavian names. Ingrid, Olav, Sverre, Haakon etc

Simply because names are popular in country doesn't make them Swedish. Ines is popular but is Spanish. This far from throne see no reason to choose anything but what they like.

Now if CP couple? Be like if William and Kate had baby four and named it Prince Olav. May be royal name but for British prince?
I think Estelle and Oscar are Swedish names.
As for Ines, it is a Spanish and Portuguese name. I was surprised by the choice of name, even though it is a beautiful name and the little princess is in a place far from the throne.
 
I think Estelle and Oscar are Swedish names.
As for Ines, it is a Spanish and Portuguese name. I was surprised by the choice of name, even though it is a beautiful name and the little princess is in a place far from the throne.

Estelle is a French name. But so is Madeleine (and Leonore & Adrienne), though they are originally a French family, so I think that is their reasoning...

I was also surprised by the Spanish/ Portuguese Ines, I was expecting either a Swedish or a French name.
But I am glad they chose a classic name! Actually all 9 grandchildren have classic names and that's what I personally find most important in terms of royal names. The title of Prince/ Princess + the latest hip name invention does not sound good to me.

I would add to this origin discussion that sometimes a name is from a different language, but well established in a country for 100 years or even longer, so people might consider it one of their own language at that point. Such as Charlotte (originally French) in the English language.
 
I'm sorry but blaming CP and Sofia for CG's unfortunate little mishap is ridiculous. If CG genuinely hadn't been audibly told of the name ahead of the council of state (which I somehow doubt), the fault lies with the court's procedure of doing these announcements.

His staff is perfectly aware he is dyslexic, it's not rocket science to think having the name pronounced to him is a good idea. He didn't even have to be dyslexic for that to be a good idea – many names have more than one pronunciation. When you can print the name on a little piece of paper, you can pronounce the name to him as well to avoid mistakes like that. But again, while I can buy that the full name is kept a secret, I very much doubt he hadn't been told of her first name beforehand (which makes him fumbling her secondary names after mispronouncing her first name a bit more logical – he knew he had read it out wrong).
The fault lies with CG first (but I hope he wasn't too sad). He knows he is dyslexic, so he should have prepared himself better and e.g. ask somebody to pronounce the name because the staff was perhaps hesitant to speak about his weakness.
 
Had Sofias parents also attended Te Deum? I have seen pictures of Sofias sisters but not of her parents!
 
There's a Saint Agnes/Ines of Rome ,her feast day is the 21st of January!

Here are a few more photos from the Press Conference and Te Deum at the Chapel Royal today
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The Swedish calendar does have Agnes and Agneta on January 21. Inez (slightly more common spelling of Ines) is a different enough name to have another day though, it's on August 6 with Alfons. So I'm guessing they'lll celebrate the Princess' name day on August 6.
There are Scandinavian names. Ingrid, Olav, Sverre, Haakon etc

Simply because names are popular in country doesn't make them Swedish. Ines is popular but is Spanish. This far from throne see no reason to choose anything but what they like.

Now if CP couple? Be like if William and Kate had baby four and named it Prince Olav. May be royal name but for British prince?
To me those names, except Ingrid, sound extremely Norwegian and would be very strange in Sweden. Ines is quite common though, actually it was the 23rd most popular girls name in 2023 (Sveriges 100 mest populära flicknamn | myNanny).

Most important is of course that Ines is a lovely name and Västerbotten a great duchy. And I'm so happy they got a baby girl!
 
I know that Estelle was a loved member of the extended royal family, but I don't care for it for the eventual heir to the throne and future Queen. I feel like something actually Swedish would be more appropriate. And for the rest, again, they are princes/princesses of Sweden, not private persons.
I don't know if this is 'done' in Sweden, but perhaps Estelle could choose a Swedish name for her monarchial name – although this is really looking much too far into the future!

Edit: whoops, this is probably the wrong thread.

Anyhow, Princess Ines is a nice name.
 
The fault lies with CG first (but I hope he wasn't too sad). He knows he is dyslexic, so he should have prepared himself better and e.g. ask somebody to pronounce the name because the staff was perhaps hesitant to speak about his weakness.
Dyslexia can affect both your ability to read and to speak so it's entirely possible that the King would have mispronounced the name even if he had heard it being said out loud.
According to the Court he's sad that he mispronounced his granddaughter's name so maybe we should be decent enough to put this discussion to rest.

There are Scandinavian names. Ingrid, Olav, Sverre, Haakon etc

Simply because names are popular in country doesn't make them Swedish. Ines is popular but is Spanish. This far from throne see no reason to choose anything but what they like.

Now if CP couple? Be like if William and Kate had baby four and named it Prince Olav. May be royal name but for British prince?
In my opinion a name like Ines with it's 180 year long history in the country is a Swedish name. It might have a foreign origin like many other names but no one would consider the name foreign like they would do with Olav, Sverre & Haakon.
 
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I'm surprised Victoria and Madeleine wore blue and not pink for the Te Deum.

Carl Phillip is just glowing. Congratulations to him and Sofia! The new Princess is beautiful and I like the name.

I've never been a fan of the Swedish model of titles. I much prefer the Danish one whereby only children of the sovereign and heir are styled Prince & Princess.
 
Live, the Council starts at 11.15:

Ines Marie Lilian Silvia, Duchess of Västerbotten

But the King said at the Council: Inse Silvia Marie Lilian.

But when the king announced what her name would be, he called her Inse.

The king said the wrong name for the new princess – Ines became Inse and confused many.

I love that she got the duchy previously held by her great-grandfather who would have become king if it wasn’t for his untimely death, I was hoping she would get that one. What an honor.

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