A boy for Princess Maria Laura and William Isvy: Albert


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That's good news. And I like that they named him Albert.
 
Wonderful news, congratatulations to the whole family. I am sure the great-grandpa smiling to see his new little namesake.
 
That's great news, congratulations to the couple and their families! A fourth grandchild for Astrid and Lorenz (two girls and two boys), as well as a fourth great-grandchild for Albert and Paola.
I'm sure King Albert is delighted to have a great-grandson named after him!
 
Welcome little Albert! Congrats to Maria Laura and William. I'm sure KAII is happy to have a great-granson named after him.

Today was a day full of royal babies!
 
Congratulations to the Belgian-Austrian-Este and Isvy families. What a joyful news!!
 
Congratulations to the parents and their families, what unexpected lovely news!
 
Lovely news! They sure kept it quiet...I had no idea that Maria Laura was expecting☺️
Indeed, it wasn't publicly known that she was expecting, just like it happened with Amedeo and Elisabetta's youngest child, Alix, born in 2023.

Newborn Albert Isvy is 11th in line to the Belgian throne (his parents asked and received permission to marry from the King in 2022), after King Philippe's 4 children, Princess Astrid, Prince Amedeo and his 3 children, and Princess Maria Laura. And he must be the first person ever who is in line to the Belgian without having any title, right?
 
Indeed, it wasn't publicly known that she was expecting, just like it happened with Amedeo and Elisabetta's youngest child, Alix, born in 2023.

Newborn Albert Isvy is 11th in line to the Belgian throne (his parents asked and received permission to marry from the King in 2022), after King Philippe's 4 children, Princess Astrid, Prince Amedeo and his 3 children, and Princess Maria Laura. And he must be the first person ever who is in line to the Belgian without having any title, right?
Yes prior to 1991 Belgium practiced agnatic primogeniture. Only princes and their descendants, so they'd have all had a title. Astrid and her children were the first female/female line heirs to the throne. In 1991 when the laws were changed, Astrid's children were made Prince/ss of Belgium. But even before that change they of course had their titles from their father.

So yes Albert Isvy indeed has the record as the first non-titled person in line.
 
Wow, two new royal babies for this week! First baby Athena Mapelli Mozzi, now baby Albert Isvy. I didn't even know that Maria Laura is expecting. Congratulation to the new parents!
 
Congratulations to Princess Maria Laura and William!
 
Congrats to to Princess/Archduchess Maria Laura and William on the birth of baby Albert and wonderful to see continuity of name usage in the family!
Albert Isvy is now 11th in the Belgian line of Succession.
 
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Old age has been so kind to King Albert that not only he and Paola have managed to meet four great-grandchildren, but also a namesake one! Truly lovely gesture.
Although Anna Astrid, Maximilian, and Alix are not "Prince/Princess of Belgium" or HRHs under King Philippe's royal decree of 2015, they have nonetheless been referred to in the past using the prefix Prince/Princess. There was a doubt if that is because of their Austrian-Hungarian royal/imperial ancestry in paternal line, or if it is an entitlement, under Article 4 of the said decree, of all legitimate descendants of King Leopold I who are not simultaneously Princes/Princesses of Belgium and HRHs under Articles 1, 2, or 3.

Albert Isvy is the first great-grandchild of King Albert II who is not entitled to a non-Belgian royal title in connection with his father's paternal line ancestry. I am curious to see then if he will be also referred to as a Prince or not. Hopefully the proper intrtpretation of Article 4, which has been a topic of discussion since 2015 here in the TRF, will be finally clarified.

Congratulations to the parents and their respective families!
 
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Albert Isvy is the first great-grandchild of King Albert II who is not entitled to a non-Belgian royal title in connection with his father's paternal line ancestry. I am curious to see then if he will be also referred to as a Prince or not. Hopefully the proper intrtpretation of Article 4, which has been a topic of discussion since 2015 here in the TRF, will be finally clarified.

Congratulations to the parents and their respective families!
In the announcement of his birth (published on the Royal Palace's website) he's referred to as "Albert", without any title.
I've also asked royal reporter Wim Dehandschutter (who generally has good sources) and he confirmed that the child doesn't have any title, he's simply Albert Isvy.
 
I agree , this will happen for Astrid and Laurent grandchildren
Is Albert Belgian ??
 
In the announcement of his birth (published on the Royal Palace's website) he's referred to as "Albert", without any title.
I've also asked royal reporter Wim Dehandschutter (who generally has good sources) and he confirmed that the child doesn't have any title, he's simply Albert Isvy.
The announcement is almost exactly the same for Albert as for his cousin Alix - with just the basic information of who the parents are, the name of the child and the date changed. So, I am not sure that is a good source to know whether he will be titled or not.

Comparison in Dutch of the two announcements:
Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid Prinses Maria Laura en de heer William Isvy zijn heel blij om de geboorte van hun zoon Albert bekend te maken. Hij werd op zondag 26 januari in Brussel geboren, weegt 3,5 kg en stelt het, net als zijn moeder, goed.
Hun families delen in deze grote blijdschap.

Prins Amedeo en Prinses Elisabetta zijn heel blij om de geboorte van hun dochter Alix bekend te maken. Zij werd op zaterdag 2 september in Brussel geboren, weegt 3,4 kg en stelt het, net als haar moeder, goed.
Hun families delen in deze grote blijdschap.

Interestingly, in the case of Amedeo and Elisabetta no styles were included, while Maria Laura's style of HRH is included. And in both cases, it seems like the announcement was translated by a non-native speaker as 'zijn heel blij' is not the typical way to express that they are 'very happy' (more common in an announcement like this would be to say that they are 'verheugd' (delighted)).

I agree , this will happen for Astrid and Laurent grandchildren
Is Albert Belgian ??
Yes, he is. He meets the requirement of being born in Belgium with one of his parents having Belgian nationality at the time of his birth - Belgium also requires the Belgian parent to register the birth.

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By ensuring that the birth takes place in Belgium, it is easier to pass on Belgian nationality to the next generation (as someone with Belgian nationality who is born in Belgium automatically passes on their nationality, while that is not the case for someone with Belgian nationality who him/herself was not born in Belgium - in that case the parent needs to file a request before the child turns 5 years old).
 
I don't know if King Albert II and Queen Paola are in Belgium for the moment , but we wil see them at the Mass in Laeken for the deceased members of the Royal Family.
I understand the baby was born in Brussels. The Royal Family have their private Rooms in some Hospitals.
 
I don't know if we will see Queen Paola in public again, she looked frighteningly frail in the video message she send for the Queen Paola Foundation annual gala.
 
I don't know if we will see Queen Paola in public again, she looked frighteningly frail in the video message she send for the Queen Paola Foundation annual gala.
Hopefully we will. Yes, she looked frail, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions just based on one single pic, taken from a video-message. In any case, I'm sure she's delighted to have a new great-grandson. And Albert even more, of course!
The announcement is almost exactly the same for Albert as for his cousin Alix - with just the basic information of who the parents are, the name of the child and the date changed. So, I am not sure that is a good source to know whether he will be titled or not.
Yes, it's probably not the best source. Btw, I've found an article by Wim Dehandschutter, published today, which also says that Albert Isvy is the first commoner (untitled) person in the line of succession to the Belgian throne:
Eerste burger in koninklijke familie: hoe prinses Maria Laura met geboorte van Albert meteen voor primeur zorgt
That would me in line with the most logical interpretation (to me: I understand that others may think differently) of article 4 of the 2015 Royal Decree (i.e: it will applied for the first time when Princes Nicolas and Aymeric have children of their own)
 
That HH. RR. HH. Prince Astrid and Prince Lorenz as well as Princess Maria Laura and mister William Isvy are thanking the person for sending his well wishes to the parents and grandparents on the occassion of the birth of little Albert.
 
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