Funeral of King Constantine - January 16, 2023


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Jaya said:
i agree
wills and kate should have appeared
but anne was fabulous in her capacity
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I like Anne but I thought she was quite shabbily dressed if I am being honest.
 
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Most other royal families had the Sovereign him/herself attending and if the monarch was not able to attend (for example, Norway - most likely due to health), they sent their heirs - in addition to either monarch or heir, several families had other family members accompanying them (for example princess Beatrix (a former monarch), princess Christina for Sweden and princess Märtha Louise for Norway). The UK did neither, so yes, Anne is a 'lesser royal' compared to primary delegate of the other royal delegations in that she is neither the monarch nor the heir.
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I already explained why Charles wasn’t there so that is that. As to why Will and Kate weren’t there, I can’t say.
 
It's the Windsor exceptionalism, probably a remainder of the British Empire mindset.
They still think they are above everyone else.
I can understand why KCIII didn't attend but the fact that the PoW didn't go (being KC's godson and a godfather to the new heir) was inexcusable.
 
Princess Nina

Someone should have told the newest member of the family to wear a SKIRT . I believe she was the only one in pants. She never seems to get her clothes right—expensive yes, but often all wrong.
 
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It is interesting that in some reports Lady Gabriella is referred to as Lady Gabriella Kingston.
In other reports she is referred to as Lady Gabriella Windsor.
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
I already explained why Charles wasn’t there so that is that. As to why Will and Kate weren’t there, I can’t say.
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You questioned why Anne was a lesser royal. I provided an explanation. This was not about whether Charles should have attended, elsewhere I already stated that I think a representation by William would have been the best course of action. Nonetheless, I am sure they appreciated those that did attend.

elimom1313 said:
Someone should have told the newest member of the family to wear a SKIRT . I believe she was the only one in pants. She never seems to get her clothes right—expensive yes, but often all wrong.
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Several family members (female) members wore something different than a skirt: both the late king's sister, princess Irene of Greece (by birth), as well as Amelia Morales wore trousers (which seemed more appropriate than the ultra-short dresses of her sisters); nonetheless, it does add 'weight' to such a ceremony that everyone is wearing black.
 
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leidi said:
It's the Windsor exceptionalism, probably a remainder of the British Empire mindset.
They still think they are above everyone else.
I can understand why KCIII didn't attend but the fact that the PoW didn't go (being KC's godson and a godfather to the new heir) was inexcusable.
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Where’s this idea that they think highly of themselves? I don’t believe it has anything to go with the Empire which they know no longer exists. How do they think are better than everyone else? The fact that someone close to the family attended is good in my eyes.

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You questioned why Anne was a lesser royal. I provided an explanation. This was not about whether Charles should have attended, elsewhere I already stated that I think a representation by William would have been the best course of action. Nonetheless, I am sure they appreciated those that did attend.
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I think Anne was a good choice because she has a close connection to Constantine in terms of age, then being part of IOC, and she’s a prominent royal. The fact that someone like that attended is good IMHO and I will leave it at that.
 
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Seeing that Charles was meeting today with the president of Cyprus, it's perfectly clear that he couldn't have attended, even if he'd wanted to. To cancel the Cypriot president in order to go to the deposed king of Greece's funeral would have been a major diplomatic slight.

Don't forget, the same Greek junta that overthrew Constantine was involved in the coup in Cyprus that led to Turkish invasion and years of upheaval.
 
leidi said:
It's the Windsor exceptionalism, probably a remainder of the British Empire mindset.
They still think they are above everyone else.
I can understand why KCIII didn't attend but the fact that the PoW didn't go (being KC's godson and a godfather to the new heir) was inexcusable.
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I hope that there is a memorial service next month at Hagia Sophia Orthodox Cathedral in London, so that Charles and William and the other Windsors can pay their respects.;)
 
kalnel said:
Seeing that Charles was meeting today with the president of Cyprus, it's perfectly clear that he couldn't have attended, even if he'd wanted to. To cancel the Cypriot president in order to go to the deposed king of Greece's funeral would have been a major diplomatic slight.

Don't forget, the same Greek junta that overthrew Constantine was involved in the coup in Cyprus that led to Turkish invasion and years of upheaval.
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Well, well it could be the other way round: Charles met today because then he had an excuse to not attend
the funeral of the controversial ex-king...
Here in Germany the news completely ignored his death and funeral...
IMO in Constantine' s case the BRF didn' t send C or W because they would become in some political trouble. Believe me we will see W at other royal funerals in the future.
Besides: I read elsewhere that C attended Prince Claus' funeral in the Netherlands then. ..
 
Princess Anne is the daughter of a Prince of Greece & Denmark, plus a bridesmaid at Constantine and Anne-Marie's wedding, a good choice.

Lady Gabriella Kingston is the granddaughter of a Princess of Greece & Denmark.

Both good choices. But it would have been good for W&K to have gone too considering the other Royals who went, and of course W being the godfather of the Crown Prince Pavolos's eldest son.
 
EllieCat said:
Princess Anne is the daughter of a Prince of Greece & Denmark, plus a bridesmaid at Constantine and Anne-Marie's wedding, a good choice.

Lady Gabriella Kingston is the granddaughter of a Princess of Greece & Denmark.

Both good choices. But it would have been good for W&K to have gone too considering the other Royals who went, and of course W being the godfather of the Crown Prince Pavolos's eldest son.
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Not to forget that Constantine was W' s godfather...!
 
Beautiful service - it was very moving. Queen Ann Marie was wonderful- you could see the emotion and love. I actually don’t mind Pavlos and Marie Chantel - do we know if their titles will change now?? I thought Princess Anne was a good choice but I do believe the younger generation of British royals eg William and Kate need to start attending these events to be more of a “presence” (for lack of a better word) in royal circles. I have previously wondered if this (attending weddings and funerals etc) would have ended up being done by Harry and Meghan if they didn’t move away. I was impressed by the number of monarchs and spouses who attended and I just love seeing Grand Duchess Maria at these events - I personally think she has a regal kind of presence (but that is just my opinion - feel free to disagree!)
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
Where’s this idea that they think highly of themselves? I don’t believe it has anything to go with the Empire which they know no longer exists. How do they think are better than everyone else? The fact that someone close to the family attended is good in my eyes.
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Because they rarely deem themselves to go to weddings/funerals of other royals if those are abroad, they usually send Edward & Sophie to those, they rarely name each others' as godparents to their kids (unless they are exiled royals who live in the UK, again Edward being the exception), you don't really see them attending special events outside of the UK (at least the most senior royals).

For example, QEII only attended ONE royal funeral abroad (King Baudouin of the Belgians), apart from that it was always someone else, usually a second/third string royal.

There are very close ties amongst the continental royals, a club that the House of Windsor doesn't seem to be very interested in tbh.
 
Respectfully, but if I may, can I suggest to direct discussions about British Royal Family to the thread as linked below.

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f23/the-windsors-and-europe-2060.html

Thank you,
yukari

I finally manage to watch the funeral. While I think it's unfortunate that the late king didn't get the state funeral he deserved, on the other hand I prefer this "private" funeral more than, say, QEII funeral.

It's intimate yet poignant and regal. It's obvious that he's loved. The way that it's his sons (and grandsons) who carried his coffin ... it's giving personal touch that warm my heart (I must admit I even tear up when Palvos place the wreath on top of his coffin, hand over by his brother).After all he'd been through, the late king deserved those display of love.

Maybe it's my own imagination, but I also feel a display of defiance (directed towards the government), as if saying "this is us, we're still here, his legacy, united as family". The public turnout is a plus.

And showing the blue sky in the end ... feel so poetic. What a beautiful and heartfelt send-off for the king.
 
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Toledo said:
You know the comment was meant for only one of the grandchildren that was all over the news on the other thread.
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No, I have not seen that thread. [emoji846]
Hence my confusion
 
CP Pavlos conducted himself throughout the entire day with great presence, respect and dignity. I'd never really had much of an opinion of him before, but he clearly would have made his father proud today.
 
The attendance and non-attendance of members of the British Royal Family has sufficiently been discussed at the thread about King Constantine‘s death, see the posts over there and all repetitive posts here. Further posts about it will therefore be removed.
 
Somebody said:
Not sure which picture of Christian with a blond lady you referred to but Christian arrived with his Peruvian (dark haired) wife. I assume his brother Ernst August also arrived with his wife given that others state that he attended, so I must have missed that picture - but yes, his wife is blond. They left yesterday's dinner together, so clearly both are/were in Greece.
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In the video if the arrival at the Metropolis we see Pc Christian and his wife and behind them is walking a blond lady who looked like Princess Ekaterina. I saw just a glimpse.
I am talking about this lady :

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnejM1JOH89/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


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One thing that this sad occasion cleared up for me is the status of Matthew Kumar within the tightly knit GRF. Any suspicions I had that the family hasn't fully accepted him are history.

There he was at Tatoi early on inspecting the late king's burial site with Constantine's sisters.

He seems very much at ease in their midst and has apparently also embraced the Orthodox faith as another poster pointed out.

I am not sure that he and Theo will marry in the spring due to the mourning period for her father, but perhaps it will be before the end of the year(hopefully).
 
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Moonmaiden23 said:
One thing that this sad occasion cleared up for me is the status of Matthew Kumar within the tightly knit GRF. Any suspicions I had that the family hasn't fully accepted him are history.

There he was at Tatoi early on inspecting the late king's burial site with Constantine's sisters.

He seems very much at ease in their midst and has apparently also embraced the Orthodox faith as another poster pointed out.

I am not sure that he and Theo will marry in the spring due to the mourning period for her father, but perhaps it will be before the end of the year(hopefully).
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That poor guy lol, imagine marrying the youngest daughter of a king who has a lot of brothers and male cousins (who are also powerful men) :lol:

kimebear said:
CP Pavlos conducted himself throughout the entire day with great presence, respect and dignity. I'd never really had much of an opinion of him before, but he clearly would have made his father proud today.
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He had to be the rock and head of his family in this funeral and he did wonderfully, his siblings and his mother were all so incredibly sad and he had to keep it together for all their sakes, his son Tino Jr also kept it together as much as he could, making his grandpa proud as well.
 
The entire family was very impressive. I have thrown a lot of shade at them in this Forum, especially Princess "Eyelash extensions changed my life I am OBSESSED with them"!! Maria-Olympia.:lol:

But I admit I am slowly warming to them and seeing them in a new light.

They conducted themselves the way I like to see Royals behave.

The incident with Infanta Cristina whipping out her cell phone during the Funeral Liturgy and taking photos was a figment of my imagination. It simply didn't happen.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.:cool:
 
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The volume of crowds who came to pay their respects to the late king was astonishing and I imagine that the Greek Government are a little red faced having not accorded the king an form of ceremonial funeral and being so petty.
 
Just out of curiosity- did Queen Noor attend as an official representative of the monarch of Jordan or was it her personal choice to attend
 
There were large bursts of applause for Queen Sofia yesterday as she entered the Cathedral.
 
 
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