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Lumutqueen 07-15-2010 10:03 AM

In an attic sale to end all attic sales, the Devonshire dynasty is getting ready for a 2.5m Chatsworth clear-out | Mail Online

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How George IV used a trick bookcase to have trysts with his mistress (and now you can buy it for 80,000)

Vasillisos Markos 07-15-2010 11:03 PM

Now that's what I call getting down and dirty with the books

DeLorean 08-11-2011 10:53 AM

even after the disaster of this marriage it took the royals another (approximately) 200 years to realize a lesson that most people have known all along-let your children marry for love! well at least they got it by now

XeniaCasaraghi 08-11-2011 08:01 PM

Well Tsar Nicholas and Alexandra married for love and look how that ended up.
Edward II and George V married women who were suggested to them as good matches and those marriages were relatively happy if not full on happy. Prince Andrew and Sarah married for love and it didn't work out well either.

DeLorean 08-25-2011 12:25 AM

although Andrew and Fergie didn't work out, at least they got to meet and choose each other initially.
Tsar Nicholas was a tragedy that resulted from his relationship with his country, not his wife

XeniaCasaraghi 10-12-2011 02:49 AM

The tragedy that occurred in Russia had many factors one of them being Alexandra. The point I was trying to make is that just because two royals are told to marry simply because they are royal does not mean that a disaster is going to ensue. George's parents are another example of a happy couple who came about through negotiations and not love. Andrew and Sarah came together out of love and they were another disaster of the 80s marriages, so marrying for love doesn't mean that happily ever after is going to happen.
BTW I did not mean Edward II, I meant Edward VII and marrying Queen Alexandra.
As to the problems with Caroline, I blame George more than anybody else; so you didn't like her, who the heck cares just do your job and move on. The picture of Caroline on wikipedia is very surprising, I will not say she is drop dead gorgeous, but she is definitely not ugly. How many German princesses came over to England to marry a member of the royal family, only to end up being called ugly and stinky by the English?

XeniaCasaraghi 10-16-2011 05:38 AM

Can we get off the marriage of George and Caroline and talk about George himself. I know his father saw him as a disappointment, but how did the Prince feel and treat his father during his illnesses? Also did George ever become a worthy king?

CyrilVladisla 04-29-2014 04:44 PM

The last coronation feast held in Westminster Hall was for King George IV in 1821.
When war broke out with France in 1793, George begged his father, King George III, for a command in the army, but was refused.

Ana Von Cleves 04-30-2014 08:13 PM

Unfortunate German Princesses
 
Ummmmm.....Speaking of German Princesses who came to England only to be told they were smelly, by a perfectly repulsive groom who thought he was still god's gift... :whistling::rofl:

Seriously, I always felt a bit sorry for both Caroline & Anne of Cleves.

And I always suspected that Caroline was lead astray by one of the mistresses, but was never sure till I read this thread.

But at least Anne of Cleves was clever enough to get a fairly sweet deal out of the old boy.

XeniaCasaraghi 05-19-2014 08:45 PM

If I believed in reincarnation I would think Caroline was indeed Anne reborn.

eya 03-08-2016 01:21 AM

Erotic ornaments owned by King George IV set to sell for 5K at auction | Daily Mail Online

eya 06-29-2016 01:40 AM

Could this ex-Mormon lawyer be the true heir to the British throne? | Daily Mail Online

eya 01-23-2017 12:40 PM

Royal Recipes: King George IV's 20MILLION feast fit for a king | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Daily Express

eya 04-15-2017 03:33 AM

King George IV's only known surviving grand piano has been returned to Brighton's Royal Pavilion after being bought at auction for 62,000.

King George IV's piano returns to Brighton's Royal Pavilion - BBC News

eya 05-27-2017 05:27 PM

When George IV died, he was buried on his own instructions with a diamond-clad love token of his secret wife around his neck, cementing forever the illicit love which had scandalised society.

Diamond locket given to George IV's true love Maria Fitzherbert expected to fetch 120,000 at auction

Denville 10-22-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ana Von Cleves (Post 1661909)
Ummmmm.....
And I always suspected that Caroline was lead astray by one of the mistresses, but was never sure till I read this thread.

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Caroline was not "led astray", she was a silly vulgar woman, pitiable only because George IV was so unpleasant and treated her badly. She was foolish, irresposnble, a little mad....

eya 01-05-2018 06:18 PM

How Caroline of Ansbach left an indelible impression | Daily Mail Online

Buckeye Royal Fan 01-05-2018 06:59 PM

Different George and Caroline. This article is about George II and Caroline of Ansbach.

Denville 01-07-2018 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi (Post 1326761)
Can we get off the marriage of George and Caroline and talk about George himself. I know his father saw him as a disappointment, but how did the Prince feel and treat his father during his illnesses? Also did George ever become a worthy king?

He was never a wrothy King. he was selfish, irresponsible and was not particularly nice to his father, during the old King's madness. He was horrible to his daughter. Bad as she was, he treated Caroline badly. He was unfaithful to the woman he did love, Mrs Fitzherbert.
He had a certain charm which together with his royal status meant that some people forgave him his awful behaviour and had a certain liking for him.
But as the D of Wellington said, the sons of George III were millstones..

CyrilVladisla 07-20-2018 08:51 PM

In 1805 King George III made Caroline Ranger of Greenwich Park allowing her greater independence and financial security. Did George, Prince of Wales ask his father to do this?


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