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runaway princess 08-02-2005 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GömdNatt
no. andrea, charlotte, and pierre did not get titles from birth because their father had no title. prss alexandra has a title because her father is titled. you recieve titles through your father, not through your mother.

So..if Albert has no legimate child and when Andrea will take up the throne...will they now have titles?

Squidgy 08-02-2005 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aj00192557
why do people think we carry guns in america? LOLZ

... I guess because we have seen too many Michael Moore "documentaries" ...:) :rolleyes: (Just kidding - don't worry, I don't believe everything he says)

michelleq 08-02-2005 09:21 PM

I am an American. If I met a Royal, I would curtsey. It is a sign of respect and it wouldn't bother me a bit.

Scott 08-02-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Australian
The main reason why Australia voted against the republic was because they didnt like the style of government that was being offered, not because they wanted to keep the Queen, where the president has too much power. I believe most people wanted a republic, but wanted a Prime Minister who doesnt have all the power. IN my personal opinion, i think we should have a republic, i dont think Queen Elizabeth is relevant to Australia anymore. She really hasnt been for the past 50 years.

The case for the rejection of the republic was "Why fix whats not broken" not about keeping the Queen because shes apparently relevant to us.



I agree with you. I believe "Better the Devil you know that the one you don't know" (change "devil" to System") was mentioned a lot as well!:D

Von Schlesian 08-03-2005 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hillary_nugent
i agree with you there Australian, the Queen is so irrelevant for Australia - she barely does anything for our country apart form visit about once a decade, dress up, attend heaps of dinner parties etc. don't get me wrong i love the royal lifestyle and some of the royals but when it comes to running Australia the Queen is not a requirement at all.

and just to let everyone know, while australia voted against being a Republic it was a VERY close loss for the Republicans - i think about 52-48? that's not exact but i know it was close.

Hillary,
As a pergentage, 48% is huge, but in numerical terms, the gap between 48% and 52% is huge. What also needed to happen (when having a referendum, to formally change the constitution), is what is called a double majority: where there has to be a majority of the entire population of Australia, but also a majority of the states. So if 12 Million people (roughly VIC, NSW and QLD population), voted yes to a republic, but TAS, WA, SA and the territories didn't, the change would still not occur, even if a majority of the entire population voted yes. In any case, they didn't.

As I said before, I don't think all 48% were republicans, I think only a minority were true republicans, in the same way only a minority of the 52% were true and informed Monarchists.

Hillary, you also say that The Queen is not a requirement at all when it comes to Australia: Well, perhaps she isn't, but her reserve powers, as set out in the Australian Constitution, are vested in the Governor-General. So effectively, during the period of their appointment, and when Her Majesty is not in Australia, The Governor-General is our Head of State. THe powers exercised by the Governor General include, swearing in Ministers, opening and dissolving Parliament, inviting the leader of the majority party to form a government, Head of the Executive Government (the highest legislative decision-making body in Australia), and Commander-in-Chief of the Australian Defence Force.

All of these duties are carried out, while fulfilling one function - being the direct representative in Australia, of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II by Grace of God Queen of Australia.

So to say Her Majesty is irrelavent, or not required, is highly mis-leading.

Idriel 08-03-2005 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott
I agree with you. I believe "Better the Devil you know that the one you don't know" (change "devil" to System") was mentioned a lot as well!:D

Just out of curiosity, what do you expect an elected president will bring you more than the Queen? Do you think it will be cheaper, that the country will suddenly become modern? What?
I've notice this republican optimism, and I don't quite understand it.
Can you help me?

GömdNatt 08-03-2005 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by runaway princess
So..if Albert has no legimate child and when Andrea will take up the throne...will they now have titles?

if Albert has no children, he will most likely confer a title on Andrea.

runaway princess 08-03-2005 06:27 PM

But Charles, Ann..and their siblings got a title and their father is not a royal...how did they have a title?...Is it because there's no one else to give it to?

GömdNatt 08-03-2005 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by runaway princess
But Charles, Ann..and their siblings got a title and their father is not a royal...how did they have a title?...Is it because there's no one else to give it to?

Philip was born a Prince of Greece and Denmark.

GrandDuchess 08-04-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by runaway princess
But Charles, Ann..and their siblings got a title and their father is not a royal...how did they have a title?...Is it because there's no one else to give it to?

They have their titles as the children of a monarch, I think it would be a very strange situation if children to a reigning monarch would have no title... Charles is The Prince of Wales, the traditional title of the heir to the throne, as conferred to him by his mother. The Queen also appointed Anne to the title Princess Royal, a traditional title for the monarch's oldest daughter, and a special sign of appreciation.

ElisaR 08-04-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandDuchess
They have their titles as the children of a monarch, I think it would be a very strange situation if children to a reigning monarch would have no title... Charles is The Prince of Wales, the traditional title of the heir to the throne, as conferred to him by his mother. The Queen also appointed Anne to the title Princess Royal, a traditional title for the monarch's oldest daughter, and a special sign of appreciation.

Charles and Anne were born when their mother was still a princess. However, before Charles's birth, the King decided (I think he issued a patent) that her daughter's children would have been princes and princesses, because she was the future monarch.

Elspeth 08-04-2005 02:00 PM

Here's a list of letters patent; it's the one in November 1948 that's being referred to.

These are pdf files, btw.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/societies/cuhags/info/proclp-w.htm

Queen Shirley 11-18-2012 04:42 AM

I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

Lumutqueen 11-18-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Shirley
I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

Erm, you wouldn't? You would only know if they chose to tell you.

Lee-Z 11-18-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Shirley (Post 1484134)
I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

You wouldn't know, but I don't think it's a crime if you call someone Sir and it turns out to be a Lord or something :flowers:

An Ard Ri 11-18-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Shirley (Post 1484134)
I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

For starters I doubt you'd meet any of them walking down the street :biggrin:

This link may help you

Forms of address in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Artemisia 11-18-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Shirley (Post 1484134)
I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

You wouldn't, not unless they were wearing badges designating their styles and/or titles.
On the other hand, why would you need to know the styles or titles of complete strangers you aren't even planning to talk to?

Meraude 11-18-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GömdNatt (Post 254074)
you recieve titles through your father, not through your mother.

This is not entirely true, it depends on what country a princess is from, as the children of princess Margriet of the Netherlands are titled while her husband is Mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven. Men who have married future queens have got their wife's title (Claus of the Netherlands, Henrik of Denmark and Daniel of Sweden) and there will most likely be a number of men who gets their wife's title when the princess heirs of today's crown prince/ss start getting married.

AnnEliza 11-18-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Shirley (Post 1484134)
I have a question: Let say I'm British (which I am not). I'm walking down the street passing lots of people. How would I know if someone is "Royal" like Lord, Count, Prince, or Princess (I understand there are more then just William and Harry). How would I know to say: My Lord, Your Grace, or just say Sir.?

I would think it would only come up if there were introductions made. You don't know what to call anyone until they're introduced to you, or introduce themselves.

yvr girl 11-18-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisele (Post 253433)
I'm a newb myself and there is one thing I would like to have clarified since I've never got anyone to answer it before.

Here's the question - thos baldrics or sashes or whatever you wish to call them, is there a reason that some people wear them from left to right and others wear them from right to left? I've noticed this on many pictures and no one's been able to answer the question. Hopefully someone can do so here.

Thanks and I'm enjoying the forums and the photos.

Sashes belong to orders. Each order has particular rules as to how the sashes are to be worn. It is custom.


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