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Boris 12-18-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Josefine (Post 869042)
The one with different stones in a long row
from ibl
https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...025AB56B22F9C1

Yes, this necklace, exclusively worn by Princess Lilian today, was given to Crown Princess Margaret as a wedding gift by her parents-in-law, but I’ve never seen a photo of her wearing it.
Here’s a link to Ursula’s site with a whole page about this necklace:
https://www.royal-magazin.de/sweden/crownprincess-margaretas-necklace.htm

Thank you Stefan for the additional information on Princess Birgitta's tiara! I just checked IBL, but couldn't find pic of Birgitta’s daughter Désirée at the King’s 60th birthday...
Would you know to whom the diamond and pearl circle tiara originally belonged?

Anna-Amalia 12-18-2008 10:53 AM

By coinscidence I found some facts about Princess Birgitta's pearltiara at royal-magazine.de. The website is:
Princess Birgitta of Sweden Pearl and Diamond Tiara |Perlen Diadem - Hochzeitsgeschenk an Prinzessin Birgitta

They say on this site that the tiara was ordered from a Swedish jeweller Carlman when the princess got married. The tiara was a gift from King Gustav VI Adolf. This tiara now belongs to her daughter Desirée, but there is no information about when she got it.

Birgitta seems to have been the first owner of this tiara. I think it´s quite beautiful. It is perfect as a bridal riara, but looks also very elegant with eveningdresses of every colour.

BTW; there seems to be many lovely pictures at royal-magazin.de, a new webbsite for me.:wub::wub:

Stefan 12-18-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris (Post 869101)
Yes, this necklace, exclusively worn by Princess Lilian today, was given to Crown Princess Margaret as a wedding gift by her parents-in-law, but I’ve never seen a photo of her wearing it.
Here’s a link to Ursula’s site with a whole page about this necklace:
https://www.royal-magazin.de/sweden/crownprincess-margaretas-necklace.htm

Thank you Stefan for the additional information on Princess Birgitta's tiara! I just checked IBL, but couldn't find pic of Birgitta’s daughter Désirée at the King’s 60th birthday...
Would you know to whom the diamond and pearl circle tiara originally belonged?

Have found the picture in my Archiv:
https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...undHalbach.jpg

and another of Bettina Bernadiotte wearing a small tiara her mother also wore for a offical family Photo in the 80's
https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...Bernadotte.jpg

As for the diamond and pearl tiara i thin it was made for Birgitta.

Boris 12-18-2008 11:34 AM

Thank you very much, Stefan!
So the circle tiara was probably made for Princess Birgitta... its base, not the best of constructions, also looks a lot like the bases of the 'button' tiaras which were created around the same time, so it makes a lot of sense.
But I think it's also probable that the new tiara was created from existing historic jewelry... I really wish I could remember where I once read it, but I think someone said that the tiara was made using a necklace.
Regarding Royal-magazin.de:
It's a wonderful site but difficult to navigate. There's a whole wealth of information and pictures on historic jewels, but one has be very careful to search throroughly under several tags, otherwise a lot of stuff can be missed. Most jewelry is listed under their very first owner - historically correct but due to this, pieces of jewelry we know on current Royals are named differently, after previous owners, or even appear under different Royal Houses.

Josefine 12-19-2008 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Anna-Amalia (Post 869114)
By coinscidence I found some facts about Princess Birgitta's pearltiara at royal-magazine.de. The website is:
Princess Birgitta of Sweden Pearl and Diamond Tiara |Perlen Diadem - Hochzeitsgeschenk an Prinzessin Birgitta

Thank you so much for that link
i have visted the site but have not seen those photos

Boris 12-19-2008 10:46 AM

Photo of King Carl Gustaf’s mother Princess Sibylla from 1933 in court dress:
She's wearing Crown Princess Margaret’s aquamarine and diamond kokoshnik tiara which went to her daughter Princess Margaretha;
and the cabochon sapphire set that was given to Princess Birgitta:

https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/fotoweb/Preview.fwx?position=4&archiveType=ImageFolder&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=prinsessan%20and%20sibylla&fileId=B12BF45F323ED927B8CCCE97EFCDD0C337D6131A0A249DADC1A86915BCB98CFB94C28C4E3465AEBC576711703F05EEB6AB2F16E4DAC93D8F705AE15215EAD770DCFB94399AA83B62AFB60658437EA99CFB797689F5A4ACA756EF376F49822A2FDE95E60A021E62C8A2378FCCEF517AA970E317C5D9AA2A9A84DB6635DCD0B3C1CE698EF877818C8E61E0C34F67BC3333&archiveid=5018

Josefine 12-19-2008 01:42 PM

here we got Bettina with a tiara,
is there a better photo of it anywhere

ibl
https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...9E3439FBBF4699

Boris 12-20-2008 05:10 AM

Thank you for the picture of Countess Bettina Bernadotte from the King's 60th birthday gala, Josefine.
I don't have information about the tiara, but I find the very large pendant on her necklace even more intriguing.
It looks like a 18th century miniature, definitely with a painted portrait of a male Royal, set in a diamond frame...
Here’s a better view, of the late Countess Sonja wearing it for the 2001 Nobel award ceremony:

https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/fotoweb/...archiveid=5018

Does anyone know more about this?

Josefine 01-11-2009 11:23 AM

What tiaras has been used for weddings before silvia and the kings sisters?

1976 Silvia Cameo Tiara
1974 Christinas Connugh tiara

Boris 01-11-2009 11:39 AM

Apart from Princess Christina, all the King’s sisters wore the cameo tiara.
Neither Princess Sibylla, nor Louise Mountbatten, nor Margaret of Connaught wore tiaras for their weddings.
The tradition of brides wearing tiaras for a royal wedding didn't really start before the end of World War II.

Josefine 01-11-2009 02:14 PM

Okay so the kings sisters was the first in the royal family to wear tiaras at their wedding day. I did not know that.

The baden fringe tiara was however worn as a necklace in the wedding photo of then princess victoria....for those that did not know that and are new to the jewllery boxes of the swedish royal family.

Josefine 01-13-2009 11:31 AM

Princess sibylla pearl necklace
IBL Bildbyrå | 0435 44 07 65

a other necklace
https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...5F095038EE545C

two row necklace
https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...5F095038EE545C

Margareta 01-13-2009 11:58 AM

The second necklace is the Diamond necklace with emeralds that originally was a belt. Queen Silvia wore it for example at the Nobel gala in 1987.

Soli Deo Gloria 01-13-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris (Post 878361)
Apart from Princess Christina, all the King’s sisters wore the cameo tiara.
Neither Princess Sibylla, nor Louise Mountbatten, nor Margaret of Connaught wore tiaras for their weddings.
The tradition of brides wearing tiaras for a royal wedding didn't really start before the end of World War II.

Margaretha did not wear the cameo tiara. She wore the bridal crown from the church she was getting married in...

Josefine 01-19-2009 11:34 AM

is there any jewllery worn by the royals that are designed by a swede.

here is a link with a few bernadotte jewllery
maybe something new can be found
DINASTÍAS | Los Foros de la Realeza
from ibl

a photo pf princess margaretha
how look is there any jewllery you have know of
i am thinkning pearl necklace and brousch formust
IBL Bildbyrå | 0435 44 07 65

https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...D2C50F0873DBCE

princess birgitta
https://www.iblbildarkiv.net/FotoWeb/...5F095038EE545C

iakynthi 02-27-2009 09:20 AM

The pearl necklace is beautiful!This brooch is the one Victoria wore on her engagement day,right?Does Victoria own it right now?

lilnana 04-11-2009 05:07 PM

I found this photo of the 6 button, but there are 2 on the bottom that aren't apart of the 10 button/rosettes. Does anyone know anything about them? Or know why the rows of diamonds were removed? They only reason I can think of for removing them is that they are/were also used as the diamond necklaces, rather then the necklaces and the tiara having their own diamonds. It's not out of the question for them to be removable and reusable, Victoria and Madeleine often were the drops from the Connaught tiara.

https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...ntiara1.th.jpg



Josefine 04-28-2009 03:49 PM

Princess sibylla
https://www.thepeerage.com/101247_001.jpg
from joberg.blogg.se

Boris 04-29-2009 11:11 AM

That's a nice pic of Crown Princess Margaret's diamond and aquamarine tiara, inherited by the King's sister Princess Margareta.

Boris 04-29-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lilnana (Post 920672)
I found this photo of the 6 button, but there are 2 on the bottom that aren't apart of the 10 button/rosettes. Does anyone know anything about them? Or know why the rows of diamonds were removed? They only reason I can think of for removing them is that they are/were also used as the diamond necklaces, rather then the necklaces and the tiara having their own diamonds. It's not out of the question for them to be removable and reusable, Victoria and Madeleine often were the drops from the Connaught tiara.

https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3...ntiara1.th.jpg



lilnana, this picture is rather old and most probably shows the six rosettes tiara 'in the making'.
The two diamond rows which are 'missing' at the tiara's bottom here were not removed, but added later. The tiara was originally made for Princess Lilian, who first wore it at the 1985 Nobel Award ceremony. The rosettes themselves are of course much older, from the early 19th century, but this setting is actually contemporary.
The two rosettes in the front - both of different design - are 'spare' ones. The one to the left has been worn as a brooch by Queen Silvia and as necklace pendant on a diamond rivière by both Princess Lilian and Princess Madeleine.


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