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Lorraine 09-29-2002 02:57 AM

Crown Prince Frederik and Mary Donaldson, Current Events 1: September 2002 - May 2004
Hello Everyone,

How are you all doing? I have often wondered about this and forgot to ask, so here it is now...stupid question. Why doesn't Mary propose to Fred instead of waiting. I would if I was with a guy for two years. Its afterall 2002 and the roles between men and women are changing. I can imagine Mary proposing to Fred outside Marseilsborg Palace or Amaliensborg Castle, getting down on bended knees while QM,Prince Henrik and our dearest, Mr Per Thornit are having a meeting and are shocked when they look outside the window and wonder what on earth is going on. Would anyone of you out there propose to a guy?

I bid you all a very beautiful day with hugs, smiles, love and friendship to everyone. :D

Jacquelines reply to posts :

Lorissa! That is an absolutely fantastic idea. I never thought about that. If Mary can live with Frederick for months at Amalienborg (sorry if I didn't spell correctly)without their being married, surely she can pop the question. Besides, it does seem that Miss Mary is running the show in this relationship, so she might as well go all the way.


Lorraine 09-29-2002 05:03 AM

Frederik and Mary - Picture and News Thread
This article was posted by Rick.

Aussie girl to 'marry' Prince


DENMARK'S Crown Prince Frederik has become engaged to his Australian girlfriend Mary Donaldson, a Danish Television channel has reported.

There has been no confirmation as yest from the palace.
TvDanmark said the pair would marry on May 24 next year, citing political sources.

The royal palace said it "had not heard word of any engagement".

Donaldson, potentially the future Danish Queen, has been dating the prince for two years but has received little or no encouragement from the palace.

Denmark's press has been piling the pressure on Queen Margrethe to extend a welcome to the royal girlfriend.

The pressure has mounted since Margrethe admitted last month that she had not yet met Frederik's girlfriend and that she did not want to talk about his private life.

"Meet her" urged BT newspaper, supporting demands from its readers for Margrethe to make the first gesture and get to know 30-year-old Donaldson.

Frederik, 34, was introduced to Donaldson by Spanish Crown Prince Felipe at a reception in Sydney during the September 2000 Olympics.

In February, the Danish court finally confirmed the two were an item.

Gossip magazines have reported that Donaldson, who often stays in the crown prince's apartments at Copenhagen's Amalienborg Palace, is studying Danish.

Donaldson, a trained lawyer from Tasmania, moved to London last year to be near her father John, an Oxford university professor who married Australian writer Susan Moody after the death of his first wife.

This summer she was installed in an upmarket area of Copenhagen, a kilometre from Amalienborg, where she works for information company Navision, a Danish subsidiary of Microsoft.

Julia :

Hey Rick! Really interesting article...wonder what's keeping the Queen from meeting Mary? Disinterest? Disapproval? Wants Fred to marry someone of royal blood? I can't believe that she hasn't met her informally, that is unofficially, you know?
Have a great day!

Kelly B :

Today's Hello online has a snippet about Fred "stepping nearer to the altar" or something along those lines. I guess this TV channel report has kicked it into high gear. Not sure who these UNNAMED political sources are? But its got the tabs in a tizzy--and that doesn't take much.

THEY say they would get engaged Oct 2 (so Mary can attend the new baby's baptism and hence, over shadow the day--nice move by a potential new aunt!) and be married May 24.
If the palace is preparing for an engagement next week and are currently saying "they know nothing of an engagement", and something does happen....they should really revamp their PR dept.

When will it end?

Julia :

Kelly, it's fairly amazing that the tabs know more about the engagement date as well as the date of the wedding than the palace ...It would be rather overshadowing if Mary and Fred were to be engaged just in time for the baby's christening...not terribly fair.

Have a great day!

Lorissa :

Hey Rick, Kelly,Julia and everyone.

How are you? Thanks Rick so much for posting the article. Kelly and Julia, I agree totally with your posts about the Oct 2 "supposedly" engagement. I don't think that Fred or the palace would overshadow the new baby's christening and announce it then. All these re-hashes and media predictions are simply crazy. Its like the same old stories and rumors again. Poor Mary! It must be frustrating as well as nerve racking waiting for him to propose. You two are funny!
The press seems to know more about Fred's lovelife then the Palace or Fred himself.

Have fun and take care!!!
Robb :

I hope not ! If I were Princess Alexandra I would be
cheesed off even though she's not going to be the Queen
she has been in Denmark longer and had more practice as a Pincess
than Miss Mary! If they are going to be sister-in laws why get off
on the wrong foot? But it looks like Mary has no respect for the queen
either !
How/why would Fred be with someone so minipulative/immature something is "fishy" in that relationship !

Lorraine 09-29-2002 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Samantha:


Sydney Confidential
by Peter Holden, Jo Casamento and Naomi Toy
English news,2002 Nationwide news pty ltd

SOME weird stuff is going on in Denmark, where the media is in a frenzy over Prince Frederik's relationship with Tasmanian Mary Donaldson. With the announcement of an engagement expected some time soon, an operative reports that local newspapers and magazines have been contacted by greedy folk from Tassie, purportedly with stories to tell and, more importantly, sell. Another whisper impossible to confirm is that the palace is prepared to buy embarrassing photos, should any exist.

Sam :

New digs step nearer to palace for Mary.

214 words
8 September 2002
Sunday Tasmanian
(c) 2002 Davies Brothers Limited.

TASMANIA'S real-life Cinderella Mary Donaldson has moved a step closer to Denmark's royal castle.

She now lives just a few blocks away.

This is the exclusive portside apartment block in Copenhagen that the former Taroona girl recently moved into.

Ms Donaldson, girlfriend of Denmark's Crown Prince Frederik, was also spotted after a lunch engagement in the Danish capital this week.

And, observers assured, she is again wearing that suspiciously "engagement" looking ring.

This follows news during the week that Ms Donaldson, 30, has begun a new job with Danish Microsoft subsidiary Navision.

Ms Donaldson holds a law degree from the University of Tasmania and worked at a real estate agency in Sydney before moving to Denmark several months ago.

She met the 34-year-old prince at the Sydney Olympics in 2000.

Reports of their budding romance and Mary's move to Denmark, plus rumours of an impending marriage, have been circulating since.

But Mary's move may be a lonely one for now, with Prince Frederik resuming his Military College studies this week.

He travels to Brazil on September 11 and also has an upcoming engagement in New York to receive the Danish-American Society's man of the year award.

Lorissa :

Hey everyone,

Thanks Sam! I'm so glad that you kept your promise and posted
new articles up. I hope that more Tasmanians will be bribed into
spitting out interesting info on Mary. Then we can have some real
"juicy" gossip. Funny about the Palace willing to buy embarrassing pics, thats if they exist? What does everyone think?

The same thing happened a couple of years ago with Australia's media tycoon's heir, James Packer. He was engaged to a actress/model Kate Fisher and she had appeared naked in the movie "Sirens" with Hugh Grant and numerous other modelling assignments. If they were to get
married he was willing to buy up every magazine,movie,etc... that Kate starred in nude. I wonder of there is any nude pics of Mary?

I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

I bid you all a very beautiful day with hugs, smiles, love and friendship to everyone.

Kelly :

Hello All--I finally got here and the computer-challenged dork I took awhile to get registered...(I know...I's not that hard. Be nice to the dumb girl, please )

Good little tidbit on the potential feeding frenzy in Oz.
I figure it is only a matter of time. EVERYONE has something they would rather not see on the cover of a paper or tabloid.

And when it comes to the payoff, some people may wait until "an announcement" may be made. I mean dirt on a royal girlfriend probably won't pay as well as dirt on a future CP. It's all about economics.
I just have a hunch, don't know where from, but I am sure there are people Mary has trampled over or peeved off who are circling to await their moment for a payoff (financial or emotionally)

Jacqueline :

Thanks for the article Sam.

I think that a few new things about Mary that perhaps aren't that flattering will eventually surface, especially if an engagement is announced. I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but I always thought that it was a little strange that absolutely nothing the least bit questionable or for that matter at least interesting has been brought up about Mary. It has always seemed somewhat odd to me. There must be something. I guess that we'll just have wait and see.

Mara :

Bla bla bla... Can we talk about something besides Mary? YUCK! Just kidding. Hey, did anyone hear when Fred is going on Good Morning America? I hope I didn't miss that. Please let me know.

Kelly B :

I haven't heard about the GMA appearance at all. It's not getting alot of promotion. What am I saying--any promotion.
I did hear he is hosting a party this Sunday at BB Kings--which is kind of a cheesy concert (overpriced too) hall in Times Square. I was suprised that this place would be chosen to host a party. If you want down home fun, it's one thing, but this is just cheeseball, as they say.

Perhaps there is nothing about Mary that is very interesting. Dirt or even normal information. She is pretty boring, so far. The whole thing about the palace willing to buy off pics or info---not sure if its true--but it's funny.

Jacqueline :

Hi everyone!

No matter how hard someone tries to inform himself or herself, it really doesn't matter, especially when the proper authorities can't even provide you with the information that you need in order to remain informed of current events. Okay, I know that this sounds a little odd, but I am speaking in regards to Fred's appearance on GMA.

I went to the GMA website and I didn't find anything about Fred on the website. I didn't even find something pertaining to the show's schedule and topics for the week. I e-mailed a friend and asked him if he has heard anything about it, since he watches the show daily and he has heard nothing. He said that he would call the show and find out the list of topics for the week. Well, when he called and entered the correct key on the menu that gives detailed information on the week's schedule, he found that the recording did give detailed information about the week's shows-details that go all the way back to the week of May 6. Can you believe that? No one has updated the automated phone system since the beginning of May. I think that my friend said that this particular week was supposedly, "Blast from the Past" week. Whatever. It must have been some week. Honestly, the fact that they are still giving information out on the week of May 6 is a "blast from the past" in itself.

That is just plain horrible. I guess that some of us will never know, especially since the week is almost over.I am very disappointed in GMA. I am sorry everyone. I wish that I had more information. But, GMA just will not cooperate with the public. I guess they're really busy.

Mara 09-30-2002 01:39 PM

Well, LC had said that he would be appearing on GMA later this month. Well, today is the last day of the month. But the saddest thing is that he was in NYC probably talking with them and noone knew anything about it. Its very sad.

Well, I guess we will soon see what will happen. They should be "engaged" (if that's true) in 2 days. I highly doubt that will happen. I just really find it odd that they would marry May 24th. That's just a couple of days before his birthday. Oh well. :?

Kelly B 09-30-2002 02:10 PM

Something on the SRMB said that he pulled out of his appearance at ABC because they wanted to discuss Mary and Greenland and not some other topic. Who knows what the real story was? They didn't promote it at I guess it was never a featured or "hot" story for the program.

Mara 09-30-2002 02:26 PM

It was the 200 year anniversary of author Hans Christian Andersen. That is what he was supposed to be on there for. I don't blame him for pulling out at all. That really bites that they can't stay on subject.

martin 10-03-2002 06:30 AM

(or as always, the press was wrong)

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Mary Donaldson and Prince Frederik of Denmark.

The Danish palace was tight-lipped over rumours that it was set to announce the engagement of Crown Prince Frederik to Australian girlfriend Mary Donaldson, denying that such an announcement was due.

"There will be no announcement today [Wednesday] or in the near future," said the personal secretary to the prince, Per Thornit, dismissing reports of an imminent royal statement as "speculation invented by the media".

A report on Danish television channel TvDanmark2 last week said that, on Wednesday, Frederik would announce his intention to marry Ms Donaldson in May, quoting sources from the interior ministry and royal palace.

Photographers and television crews have set up camp outside Copenhagen's Christianborg Castle - the seat of government where there is also a royal apartment - where Queen Margrethe was meeting Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen and other senior ministers on Wednesday.

Speculation was high that the monarch was presenting Ms Donaldson to the Danish Government - a constitutional formality before any royal engagement can be officially announced.

But royal court chamberlain Soeren Haslund-Christensen denied that Ms Donaldson was with the queen, insisting "there is nothing new on this matter".

The prince said last week that reports of his engagement were premature, appealing for the media to halt speculation over his private life.

Danes have welcomed Ms Donaldson with open arms, apparently unperturbed by the possibility of an Australian one day becoming their queen.

She has dated the prince for two years but has received little or no encouragement from the palace. Queen Margrethe, the reigning monarch, admitted last month that she had not yet met Ms Donaldson.

Frederik, 34, was introduced to Ms Donaldson by Spanish Crown Prince Felipe at a reception in Sydney during the September 2000 Olympics.

In February, the Danish court finally confirmed the two were an item.


Lorraine 10-05-2002 05:31 AM

Mary's big day draws near.

489 words
27 September 2002
Hobart Mercury
(c) 2002 Davies Brothers Limited

THE excitement is mounting in Denmark that after a fairytale romance Tasmania's Mary Donaldson will finally become engaged to Crown Prince Frederik next week.

Danish television station TvDanmark reported on Wednesday night that the pair would marry on May 24 - the same date his grandparents were married. The report, which led the evening news, sent the Danish media into a frenzy.

In the country where she could end up Queen, Ms Donaldson is fast becoming the equivalent of Princess Diana, with paparazzi following her every move. She regularly makes headlines and the front covers of European magazines.

The couple have just returned from an eight-day holiday in Brazil and Prince Frederik is in New York alone until Monday when he will return for Tuesday's resumption of Parliament.

TvDanmark head of news Jens Hobsgaard, who broke the exclusive story, said "political sources" had told him there would be an official announcement of the couple's engagement next Wednesday.

"We think our sources are quite reliable," Mr Hobsgaard said in Copenhagen last night.

Mr Hobsgaard said Ms Donaldson was the first girlfriend Prince Frederik had been seen with in public.

"He used to hide his girlfriends from the press and slide off somewhere but now he is showing Denmark and the world, `Here is my bride'," he said. "If they become engaged, she will be able to attend the christening of the prince's nephew on Friday.

Mr Hobsgaard said the only word Mary had uttered to the media was "Hi".

"We don't know her, we don't even know her voice, but she is extremely popular," he said.

A journalist with national broadcaster Television 2, Gitta Didriksen, last night said all television channels believed an engagement announcement was imminent.

"We will not broadcast it until we have confirmation but all the magazines are asking will they or won't they say something on Wednesday," Ms Didriksen said.

"We have to be very serious but there is huge interest in Denmark and everybody is positive she is the right girl for him."

However, the co-editor of the weekly magazine Billed Bladet, Peter Juul last night poured cold water on the likelihood of an announcement next Wednesday.

"Nobody believes it, no one takes it seriously but May 24 would be the perfect date because that was when his grandparents married," Mr Juul said.

He was adamant that no announcement would be forthcoming because of the christening of Prince Joachim's second son today week, which will be televised, and Parliament resuming next Tuesday.

Prince Joachim is Prince Frederik's younger brother.

"Personally I don't think there will be an engagement until the New Year," Mr Juul said.

Ms Donaldson, 30, who grew up at Taroona and has a law degree from the University of Tasmania, met the 34-year-old Prince at the Sydney Olympics in 2000.

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Lorraine 10-05-2002 05:33 AM

OBSERVER - Just princely Boulevard.

130 words
12 September 2002
Financial Times
(c) 2002 Financial Times Limited. All Rights Reserved

Who says life is difficult for non-European Union nationals entering Denmark (new this year: tough immigration rules)?

Mary Donaldson, 30, a professor's daughter from Tasmania, arrived recently armed with a degree in law, a brief career in property and a photogenic personality. What is more, she has landed a job at Microsoft's European headquarters in Vadbaek, north of Copenhagen.

Oh, and incidentally, she is dating the dashing Crown Prince Frederik, Denmark's most eligible bachelor, who has a new job at the Danish defence command, also in Vadbaek.

If Donaldson is facing any bothersome red tape, it may not be for long. Denmark's tabloids reckon a royal wedding is imminent. And royals, unlike commoners, do not need work permits.

Europe Edition 1.

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Lorraine 10-05-2002 05:35 AM

Cool it, says Mary's prince.

313 words
28 September 2002
Hobart Mercury
(c) 2002 Davies Brothers Limited

DENMARK'S Crown Prince Frederik early today said that reports of his engagement with Tasmanian girlfriend Mary Donaldson were premature and appealed for the media to halt speculation over his private life.

The visibly annoyed prince appeared on Danish television to issue the rebuke to the local media, which has been piling pressure on the 34-year-old to take the plunge and announce his intention to wed his popular girlfriend.

"If it were true there would be a statement either from me or from the royal palace," Frederik, who is in New York, insisted, appealing for the media to "examine their conscience from time to time".

"It's funny that I have to comment on rumours that the press itself has come up with," he added in comments broadcast on DR public television.

Danes have welcomed Ms Donaldson with open arms, apparently unperturbed by the possibility of an Australian one day becoming their queen.

The Danish royal family already includes a non-Dane, after Frederik's younger brother, Prince Joachim. married Princess Alexandra, originally from Hong Kong, in 1995.

A report on Danish television channel TvDanmark on Wednesday said that Frederik next week would announce his intention to marry Ms Donaldson next May, but the royal palace refused to comment on the report at the time.

Ms Donaldson has dated the prince for two years but has received little or no encouragement from the palace.

Denmark's press has been urging Queen Margrethe to extend a welcome to the royal girlfriend after the reigning monarch admitted last month that she had not yet met Ms Donaldson and that she did not want to talk about her son's private life.

"Meet her," urged BT newspaper, supporting demands from its readers for Margrethe to make the first gesture and get to know 30-year-old Ms Donaldson.

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Lorraine 10-05-2002 05:39 AM

Castles, wars and a Hamlet touch.

By Scott Fraser.
780 words
29 September 2002
Sunday Herald Sun
(c) 2002 Herald and Weekly Times Limited

"TO be or not to be?" What else could possibly come to mind when standing on the ramparts of the well-preserved, grey sandstone, green copper-roofed castle called Kronborg? It was built in the 15th century to ensure taxes were paid by ships passing through the sound between today's Denmark and Sweden to the Baltic Sea.

The story of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, was fictional, yet Shakespeare drew on a legend.

He was able to build a mental picture of a Danish castle from a description an actor friend brought back from the township of Helsingor (Elsinore).

It's a big, impressive, solid place - simply billed as Hamlet's Castle - set on a low promontory at the end of a small bay housing a harbour from which busy ferries ply back and forth to the twin Swedish town on the opposite shore.

These fortifications - portals, guard houses, a moat, drawbridge and ramparts - form one of several castles and palaces explored by Australians whose interest in the Danish royal family has been increased by suggestions of romance between Crown Prince Frederik and Sydney real estate agent Mary Donaldson.

Much of this building is open to the public, including the Royal Apartments. It also houses a maritime museum said to be one of the oldest in the world. Not far away, but inland, is Fredensborg Palace, built at the end of an 18th century war with Sweden as the "Castle of Peace".

More a country mansion than a castle, it has long, straight avenues radiating through parkland towards a lake and small pavilions. Tourist buses park in a satellite township that is home to courtiers and other staff.

Because Fredensborg remains an active royal residence, the family's country estate, it is open to visitors only at limited times and in a limited way.

The main royal residence in Copenhagen is a nondescript three-storey building.

So, to gain an insight into Danish royal life, most travellers linger longest at the 17th century Renaissance-era Frederiksborg Castle, parts of which had to be renovated after a fire in 1859.

This does look like a fortress, with imposing tall, brick towers and spires peeking over the surrounding forests and dominating the township of Hillerod.

The castle is set defensively on islands in the middle of a lake creating a natural moat, and you reach it through a series of terraces, gates set in thick walls and enclosed cobbled courtyards.

The perfect design for fighting desperate, back-to-the-wall battles, you think. But it is such a pretty place.

The walls are set with statues and reliefs, broken by colonnades, while water sparkles from fountains, cream bricks form decorative patterns in the dominant red, and sunlight glistens on ancient copper-clad roofs that have long since turned green with age.

Behind the main building is a reconstruction of the Baroque Garden, cascades and lake.

Picking up a self-guided tour booklet, I enter one of the four prominent corner towers of the main courtyard, stair turrets linking different levels of the buildings.

I find myself climbing a spiral staircase lined with shields presented to members of the Ancient Order of the Elephant, a royal brotherhood similar to the English Order of the Garter.

I'm told that the Danes had not seen elephants when the order was formed, but knew from stories they were strong and intelligent.

The staircase opens at balcony level to the stunning Lutheran Kirk, still the parish church.

It also is used for coronations and such events - lined with frescoes, shields and paintings, its elaborate woodwork is highlighted by the sunlight that streams through stained-glass windows.

Beyond the kirk, up and down more stairs, the guided tour passes through room after room of art treasures set beneath painted and carved ceilings.

It is a designated museum of Danish national art.

Many of the portraits depict members of the royal family.

You realise it matters little in the Danish scheme of things whether or not the family is soon expected to include an Australian. This is another world.

Snapshot HOW TO GET THERE: Copenhagen International Airport is serviced by more than 60 international airlines.

Lufthansa flies daily from Melbourne, via Singapore and Frankfurt. Scandinavian Airlines goes via Bangkok.

Take the coastal train from Copenhagen Central Station to the Zealand region, home to many of Denmark's finest castles.

UPSIDE: Great beers, seafood and good Danish pastry.

DOWNSIDE: Off the beaten track for those on the Euro trail - and a lot of pickled herring.


Religion: Evangelical Lutheran.

Population: 5,312,000.

Capital: Copenhagen.

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samitude 10-11-2002 10:47 AM

Thank you for posting this article. I am wondering one thing, though. I keep reading that Mary is taking lessons in the Danish language and Denmark's art and culture. How do people actually know this? I know when Maxima was reported as having a private tutor there was a picture of her with the tutor, etc.

Jacqueline 10-11-2002 10:56 PM

Thanks for the article Lorissa. It seems to basically repeat many of the same things that we have been hearing, but I must admit that it is one of the more well constructed articles that I have read about Mary (and Fred). Thanks for sharing it with us. :D

Jacqueline 11-06-2002 02:28 PM

I agree Robb. I thought that the fact that photographers other than those requested by the bride and groom or their families were there was a bit odd as well. My guess would be that someone tipped off the press that Mary's friend was getting married and that she would be there as a member of the wedding party and Fred would be with her.

There are a lot of different scenarios:

....Mary could have told someone at work that she was going home for a friend's wedding simply in passing.
....Mary could have mentioned it to a new friend that she has made in Denmark.
....Someone in Australia who most likely attended the wedding could have tipped off the press about Mary and Fred being in town for the wedding. (I would bet that this is most likely what happened)

Kelly B 11-06-2002 03:18 PM

Too bad someone tipped the press off. I feel bad for the bride. It was her day and the cameras in the street were taking pictures of one of her bridesmaids. Embarassing for Mary as well, I would think.

Katarina 11-07-2002 01:59 AM

I agree, very embarassing for Mary and sad for the bride. I guess the excitement for Mary's imminent engagement with the prince is just so high in Australia that when the press heard they'll be at a wedding there, they just forgot all about manners and common decency and turned the wedding into a Mary & Fred show. I just hope someone said "I'm sorry" to the bride.

Lorraine 11-08-2002 05:23 AM

Hey Robb,

How are you? Interesting point. I wonder how the Journalists find out so soon about the Wedding in Sydney. Poor bride having her wedding ruined by all these Journalists. I would be mad if it was me. :roll: :x

Jacqueline 11-08-2002 10:02 PM

I hope that Mary gave the bride and the groom and a really nice wedding gift. Of course, it wouldn't take back the media blitz on their day, but getting a useless gift after having your wedding day ruined doesn't help the situation any.

Tisha 11-08-2002 11:32 PM

I kinda have mixed feelings about the topic.
Yes, it was the bride and groom's special day. However, the bride had to have known about the "Mary-Frenzy" in Denmark and abroad when she asked her to be in her wedding party. I'm sure the bride considered the possibility that the papparazzi (sp?) might show up. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. In this case, friendship was more important.

Lorraine 11-09-2002 01:57 AM

Hey Everyone,

All this Mary has seemed very cool and always "smirking" as many have noted towards the Photographers and Journalists, seems like she is finally showing annoyance and her true self?. Can Mary handle the media following her constantly? :D :shock: :? :roll:

"Marqueeing time at cup"

by Mike Edmons, Peta Hellard and Luke Dennehy 6 November, 2002 Herald-sun

NOT at all happy to be photographed were Danish Crown Prince Frederik and his Tasmanian girlfriend Mary Donaldson, who began their day in style at the Moet and Chandon marquee.

Their two besuited security guards stepped in every time a camera was pointed their way. And when The Eye dodged the security boys to ask Donaldson, a Sydney real estate agent before romance blossomed with the Prince at the 2000 Olympics, who had designed her brown lace dress, she was less than friendly.

"It's a Danish designer," she said. Yes, but which one? "Just write that it's a Danish designer, OK," she snapped rudely, before pointedly turning away.

Thanks for that, princess.

Jacqueline 11-09-2002 02:01 AM

Thanks for the article Lorissa. Interesting indeed. Well, if this did happen, it's only natural. Eventually, she's going to have enough. I know that I would get aggravated after a while, especially if I had to put on a brave face/smirk all of the time, and there was still no engagement announcement. No matter how she's playing the game, it's enough to make anyone crack or snap. :?

Josefine 11-10-2002 08:58 AM

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by Stephanie Wilson Chapin


The Prince & the Girl Down Under

Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark falls for an Aussie lass.

Well, it seems like yet another Crown Prince has succumbed to Cupid's arrow. Only months after the future kings of Norway and Holland got hitched, it seems Denmark's heir to the throne has the love bug. Crown Prince Frederik is dating a young Aussie woman and she just may be "the one." Read on for all of the details!

So how the heck does a Danish prince hook up with an Australian commoner? It helps when the summer Olympics are held in Sydney. Most of the young royal types are into sports these days, and what better way to support national athletics than to turn up at the most prestigious sporting event in the world. It's all about being in the right place at the right time, and Mary Donaldson definitely got it right during Prince Frederik's visit to the games. Let's begin with the scoop on their first meeting and long-distance courtship.

According to Australia's The Daily Telegraph, Mary swung an invitation to an exclusive Olympic party being thrown by United Airlines, the official airline partner of the Sydney Olympics. At the time, she was working for an advertising agency called Love (ironically). But before she joined Love in May of 2000, she had worked for Young & Rubicam Inc., another ad agency. One of her clients at Y&R was United Airlines. She worked on the company's Olympic strategy. Through her connections to United and their Olympic partnership, she found herself in United's hospitality tent during the Sydney games talking to the future king of Denmark. And apparently, the courtship began right there.

After their first meeting, they spoke on the phone every day and Prince Frederik flew to Australia every other month to see Mary in person — I guess you can do things like that when you've got oodles of cash. Last December, Mary quit her job at a real estate company and moved to England. The media is speculating that she made the move to be closer to the prince. So just who is this Aussie lass?

Mary Elizabeth Donaldson is 30 years old and was born in Tasmania, an Australian island-state just off the southeastern tip of Australia. She is 5 feet 9 inches tall and has long brown hair and brown eyes. She has two sisters who are both aerobics instructors and still live in Tasmania. Her father is a math professor at England's Oxford University and he's married to crime writer Susan Moody. Her mother died several years ago.

Reports say that Mary is staying with her father and stepmother while she's in England. From what I can tell, she hasn't landed a job yet — maybe she doesn't plan to. Mary graduated with a law degree from the University of Tasmania in 1994 and she seems to have some good work experience, so it's unlikely that she would have trouble finding a position somewhere. The longer she waits to find work, the more suspicious we'll all get!

Most recently, a royal spokesperson for the prince confirmed that Mary was a guest at the royal palace in Copenhagen in February when she celebrated her 30th birthday with Frederik. The prince also confirmed their relationship himself in an interview in January, but added that he was "in no hurry to get married or engaged."

The prince has had numerous girlfriends in the past, including singers and models, but the Danish press seems to think that he's treating Mary differently.

Apparently, Danes are also excited at the prospect of having a foreigner as their queen. That's probably because one of the most popular members of Denmark's royal family is Frederik's sister-in-law Princess Alexandra. She is from Hong Kong, making her the first woman of Asian descent to marry a member of one of Europe's sitting royal houses. Alexandra is also beautiful, smart, and she's taken a very active role in Denmark's public life.

Whoever Frederik chooses, he must get his mother's permission to marry. Since Mary has been a guest at the palace, it looks like Queen Margrethe has given her tacit approval. It's not known whether or not the two women have met, but it's bound to happen if Mary starts hanging out at the Palace. No one has confirmed a meeting between Prince Frederik and members of Mary's family, but he's competing in an international sailing competition in Tasmania next January. Perhaps he'll be taking his new bride or fiancée with him for a visit with family and friends. I'll keep an eye on these two and you can be sure you'll get the scoop right here if something more "official" develops.

Josefine 11-10-2002 09:02 AM


from, September 06, 2002

by By Brier Dudley
Seattle Times technology reporter


Whispers link Microsoft, royalty

Denmark is one country where Microsoft should get along well with the government. One of its employees there is dating the crown prince, and rumor has it she's being groomed to become the next queen.

Mary Donaldson, 30, a former real-estate agent from Australia, has been the talk of the nation since she began dating Crown Prince Frederik, 34, two years ago.

Gossip reached a crescendo yesterday, the first day of Donaldson's new job in the public-relations department of Microsoft's Navision subsidiary in Denmark.

Donaldson is on a team of five working on the new identity for the business-software company Microsoft bought in July for $1.4 billion.

Frederik, who attended Harvard University, served as a frogman in the Danish Navy and worked at the Robert Mondavi Winery in the Napa Valley, had a string of girlfriends before he met Donaldson at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney.

Press reports have noted Donaldson is appearing in increasingly formal attire and speculated that she's being prepped for royalty. An Australian paper also reported seeing a large ring on her left ring finger in July.

Microsoft's international-affairs spokesman was unaware of any employees with royal connections and would not discuss Donaldson.

"We don't comment on employees' personal lives, regardless," said Mark Thomas.

The Danish royal family has no official political role but it's a beloved institution, especially Queen Margarethe II. The highly educated, progressive 62-year-old uses her annual New Year's speech to the nation and her pulpit to push for integration, racial harmony, morals and values.

Danes say they respect the royals' privacy, but they are closely following the life of the handsome prince destined to be their king.

"The Danes are eager to see the crown prince settling. He's had a lot of girlfriends that didn't seem to have the queen material," said Bodil Brovick, a Bellevue insurance agent and president of the Northwest Danish Foundation, a cultural and philanthropic organization in North Seattle.

Brovick said Frederik's choice of wife is important for the fate of the monarchy, which needs the people's support to continue.

"I think it's important for the future of any monarchy that you have a royal family that is respected and does show a high level of values, and from that standpoint, I think it's very important who Frederik chooses," she said.

Donaldson has a tough act to follow in Queen Margarethe II and Princess Alexandra, a Hong Kong investment executive who married Prince Frederik's younger brother, Joachim, in 1995. She quickly learned Danish, speaks well in public and is liked by the people, Brovick said.

"You need to have a person that can handle worldly affairs," Brovick said. "She will be a representative of the country. When she's traveling, she needs to have a certain level of presence, charisma, educational background and so on to handle those situations in a professional way."

Even before Microsoft hired the prince's girlfriend, Denmark was supportive of the company, which has its Scandinavian headquarters in Copenhagen. In June, the country declined a request by a Navision competitor to launch a European Commission investigation of Navision's sale.

Other countries in the region have spawned Microsoft competitors. The Linux operating system was created in Finland and the Opera Web browser is from Norway.

If Donaldson marries the prince and becomes queen someday, it would not affect the government's regulation of Microsoft, said Lis Frederiksen, minister counselor at the Royal Danish Embassy in Washington, D.C.

"No, absolutely not," she said. "The royal family's totally separate from that kind of business and governmental issues."

Frederiksen said the government has no official comment on the relationship but admitted she follows the Frederik gossip.

"Everybody's very curious about it. You bet they are,'' she said. "The woman that he picks is going to become the next queen."

Lorraine 11-28-2002 07:39 PM

Sun Herald
By Annette Sharp, 24th November, 2002

MARY Donaldson, the girlfriend of Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark, has at last met the family of her royal boyfriend.

But our Donaldson sources are playing down the pleasantries, explaining that a passing "Hello" does not a royal introduction make.

Media speculation about whether Donaldson will one day be Queen of Denmark is constantly thwarted by the fact that she has not been formally introduced to Queen Margrethe.

Now The Diary has learned that the royal family has met Donaldson, just not within the constraints demanded by royal protocol.

Sources claim Donaldson is pushing on eagerly with her Danish language lessons in an effort to hasten such an introduction as she believes she will receive a more favourable reception from Queen Margrethe if she can speak fluently in the Queen&#39;s native tongue.

Lorraine 11-28-2002 07:48 PM

A royal dress rehearsal - A future queen turns out for a society wedding.

551 words
2 November 2002
Daily Telegraph
&copy; 2002 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

SYDNEY was treated to a royal dress rehearsal yesterday when princess-in-waiting Mary Donaldson joined boyfriend Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark at an eastern suburbs wedding.

The 30-year-old former real estate agent returned to Australia to be a bridesmaid at the afternoon nuptials of friends Kylie Matthews and Anthony Jones at St Marks, Darling Point.

Tasmanian-born Ms Donaldson was elegantly dressed as one of the wedding party in a gold satin shell top and long skirt with matching gold jewellery and her hair swept into a bun.

The young woman who is the talk of Denmark beamed after the ceremony as she and the 34-year-old prince greeted old friends and posed for wedding photos, amid a backdrop of falling rose petals and balloons.

At one stage, traffic on Darling Point Rd stopped so the wedding photographer could get a shot of the bridal party and guests lined up outside the church.

While Ms Donaldson was happy to smile and wave as passers-by strained to catch a glimpse of the object of the media&#39;s attention, a friend requested she be left alone to enjoy the day.

Appearing to find the public glare unnerving, Ms Donaldson was said not to want to steal the limelight from the bride and groom.

Following the service, the wedding party was whisked away in Rolls Royces to Catalina restaurant at Rose Bay for the reception.

Yesterday&#39;s wedding was the fifth Ms Donaldson has attended with Crown Prince Frederik this year.

There has been mounting speculation that an announcement regarding their engagement is imminent.

Ms Donaldson has also been spotted sporting a ring on her ring finger, but there was no sign of one yesterday.

The Danish media has been in a frenzy for months over the law graduate&#39;s relationship with the prince.

She met the future Danish king at the Slip Inn in the city during the Olympics.

The prince had flown out to support the Danish sailing team, and Mary was working as an account manager for ad agency Young & Rubicam.

She later joined Darlinghurst property group Belle and soon after her affair with the prince became public.

But while the couple have been dating for two years, the Danish court only confirmed they were an item in February and have since denied engagement rumours.

Ms Donaldson is now based in Copenhagen and has recently started a job as a project consultant with software company Navision, a division of Microsoft.

Her every move, including designer shopping trips, is now monitored as the Danes make no secret of the fact that they want the Australian as their future queen.

Prince Frederik&#39;s past girlfriends, including an underwear model and Danish pop star Maria Montell, have not been considered proper princess material.

Ms Donaldson is also said to be taking language courses and lessons in etiquette and Danish history.

But the palace continues to dispel rumours of their engagement and the prince has pleaded for the media to stop speculating about his love life and the couple&#39;s future.

Similarly, Ms Donaldson is not playing the media game and her refusal to give any interviews only adds to her public mystique.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:05 PM

Mary&#39;s Easter sparkle, Royal watchers expect official engagement - Mary&#39;s Easter sparkle.

609 words
30 March 2002
Hobart Mercury
&copy; 2002 Davies Brothers Limited

TASMANIA&#39;S princess-in-waiting, Mary Donaldson, may be formally recognised as Denmark&#39;s future queen this Easter.

And a visiting Danish journalist is amazed Tasmania is remaining so low key about the royal match.

Danish royal watchers and an excited Danish public are eagerly awaiting the announcement that their Crown Prince has proposed marriage to the former Hobart girl.

Easter is one of the few occasions on which the Danish royal family comes together, and observers say the time is right for the much-anticipated news.

As excitement brews in Europe, Danish news crews have been swarming Tasmania in an attempt to profile Ms Donaldson&#39;s family and early years.

Visiting Danish journalist Karen Glahn said the announcement was expected any day now.

The Melbourne-based freelance journalist said Denmark had an insatiable fascination with their touted future queen.

"People can&#39;t get enough. This is like Princess Diana," Ms Glahn said.

"There are three big weekly gossip magazines in Denmark and there is not a week that goes by without a story about Mary."

And now they were brimming with excitement about an Easter proposal.

The royal Danish court has officially confirmed the romance between the former real estate agent and Frederik, the Crown Prince of Denmark.

Ms Donaldson occasionally stays at the palace, is seen driving palace cars and has been introduced to the "inner circle".

Considering the fervour in Denmark, Ms Glahn said she was surprised more was not being made of the relationship in Tasmania.

She said Tasmania should stop being coy about the match and seize the marketing opportunity with both hands.

Ms Glahn said European news crews were desperate for information about Tasmania and pictures of the environment in which Ms Donaldson grew up.

Despite the eagerness, she said it seemed Tourism Tasmania was shunning the limelight.

"I really don&#39;t think Tourism Tasmania realises what a big story this is," Ms Glahn said.

"This is a huge international story but ... they keep playing it down, but they should be playing it up.

"They really should start thinking Mary will be the Queen of Denmark."

Ms Donaldson, 30, is a former Taroona High student and the daughter of former University of Tasmania professor John Donaldson. She studied law at the University of Tasmania before moving to Sydney.

Ms Glahn said Denmark wanted to know as much as possible about Mary&#39;s formative years - where the family lived, where they holidayed.

She said a dozen or more European news crews had already visited the state to try to fit the jigsaw together and more were on their way. But they had "hit a wall".

"Tourism Tasmania could really boost the state&#39;s profile by helping these journalists - imagine the pictures of beautiful Tasmanian beaches where the family camped and so on."

With a lack of information, some Danish news outlets were getting the picture wrong.

"One article referred to Tasmania as a backwater," Ms Glahn said.

And another mentioned Ms Donaldson grew up in Tasmania but later moved to Australia.

Ms Glahn said Tourism Tasmania should take the lead and contact the Donaldsons in preparation for an announcement.

"People have been so kind, considering how many journalists have been contacting them. People have been very kind in their refusal," she said.

Ms Glahn, who visited the state for five days last week said Ms Donaldson had an extremely positive profile in Denmark - but it was based on limited information.

"They like her and are very positive about her, but they don&#39;t really know her," she said.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:14 PM

Court in the act of an engaging preparation.

998 words
8 April 2002
Daily Telegraph
&copy; 2002 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

MARY Donaldson is living every girl&#39;s dream - being swept off her feet by a prince. RASMUS HEIDE in Copenhagen reports that an engagement is imminent.

SHE lives in the Danish Royal Court&#39;s holiday palace, takes lessons in the local language and has a personal bodyguard.

Sydney real estate agent Mary Donaldson has come a long way.

The 30-year-old brunette is officially a princess-in-waiting, having moved permanently into Prince Frederik of Denmark&#39;s private apartment in the regal holiday residence, the 100-year-old Marselisborg Palace in Aarhus.

It is yet another delightful chapter in Mary&#39;s fairytale romance with the heir to the Danish throne, whom she met when he was visiting Sydney during the Olympic Games.

Denmark is on tenterhooks as it awaits a palace announcement of the couple&#39;s engagement and the royal court is taking extreme care that nothing goes wrong in the meantime.

It is believed this is why Mary now lives alone at Marselisborg where she can enjoy all the privacy, peace and quiet a Danish queen-in-the-making could wish for.

It is only in the past few weeks that Mary has moved into the holiday palace to avoid the prying eyes of local media.

Holed up in quiet luxury she is spending as much time as possible with the Crown Prince and becoming a firm favourite on the royal circuit.

Although the couple has been skiing in Switzerland, eating out in Copenhagen and strolling on Danish beaches, the Sydney girl spends most of her time hidden away from the glaring eyes of the Danish press.

She is yet to make any kind of voluntary public appearance or statement - but Mary seems to have found her feet in the cooler Danish climate and on the polished floors of the royal palaces.

In February she took up residency in the Amalienborg Palace in Copenhagen, where Prince Frederik hosted a party to mark her 30th birthday.

But the prospect of a future Danish crown princess being photographed jogging in the parks, receiving intensive Danish lessons or shopping in the capital&#39;s most exclusive boutiques was deemed inappropriate.

Hardly any official events take place at her new residence, Marselisborg Palace, which is the newest palace in Denmark.

It sits in an English-style 13ha park surrounded with vast lawns, trees and small lakes.

The palace is Queen Margrethe&#39;s favourite holiday spot, and the park is rarely opened to the public.

Sources close to the royal court believe Mary&#39;s residency at the palace indicates that Frederik&#39;s mother, Queen Margrethe, has given her all-important blessing to her son&#39;s love for the Sydneysider.

Although Frederik is studying in Copenhagen, he often makes the three-hour-drive to Aarhus to spend time with his love.

Marselisborg is not far from Schackenborg Palace near the German border, where Mary is getting to know Frederik&#39;s brother, Prince Joachim and wife Princess Alexandra.

The Australian expat has a great deal in common with Hong Kong-born Alexandra - both are foreigners far away from home, and Danish lessons are a very important part of becoming a Danish princess.

The speed and extreme ease with which Alexandra took to the Danish language soon after her arrival endeared her to the Danish people and Mary hopes to do the same.

Just before Easter, the Crown Prince and Mary were spotted lunching at a Copenhagen cafe, and later attracted curious looks as they strolled along a beach outside the Danish capital.

Walking hand-in-hand, the couple enjoyed the beautiful early Danish spring with only a couple of bodyguards keeping them company.

Mary and Frederik spent the week before Easter skiing at Verbier in the Swiss Alps, where the couple stayed with some of the Crown Prince&#39;s close personal friends.

Danes believe Mary has brought out a quieter side in the Crown Prince, who enjoyed a reputation as an international playboy before his Australian romance.

When he is skiing in the Alps, Frederik usually stays at hotels, but last month it was reported he had enjoyed a more discreet time holidaying with Mary at the private holiday cottage of IT millionaire Peter Warnoe, one of Frederik&#39;s friends.

Even if the week in Switzerland was a romantic getaway for the couple, they did not spend all their time together.

Mary is not as experienced a skier as Frederik, so she mostly stuck to the lighter tracks, and also spent less time on the slopes than him.

The Crown Prince is an early riser and often hit the slopes in the early mornings, while Mary stayed at the cottage. She joined Frederik and Warnoe on the slopes later for a few hours of skiing before returning to the holiday home by late afternoon.

The Crown Prince is renowned for his late night parties, and Verbier is known for its jet-setter nightlife and exclusive guests - sometimes including duchess Sarah Ferguson.

But the lures of the nightlife do not appear to offer the same attraction for Prince Frederik as they did before he met Mary.

The Easter holiday in the Swiss Alps was filled with evenings at home with Frederik&#39;s friends rather than nightly escapades at clubs and bars - a far cry from Frederik&#39;s usual late-night holiday fun.

The royal once known as "turbo prince" for his fast living has been tamed by an middle-class Australian girl who is expected to be his bride.

Princess in waiting * Mary Donaldson, 30 * Born: Tasmania, 1972 * Raised: Taroona, a middle-class suburb of Hobart * Parents: John Donaldson, an Oxford University mathematics professor; stepmother is novelist Susan Moody * Siblings: Two sisters, Patricia and Jane, who still live in Tasmania * Career: Real estate agent at up-market firm Belle Property in Kings Cross * During the Sydney Olympics she was an advertising account manager at the Love agency. She also worked at Young & Rubicam.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:18 PM

Ex tells of Prince&#39;s girlfriend.

By Vanda Carson.
146 words
24 May 2002
The Australian
&copy; 2002 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

A MAN who described himself as the "first real love" of the Australian woman who is dating the Crown Prince of Denmark used to tease her about marrying a prince.

Glenn Marriott described his ex-girlfriend Mary Donaldson as "a fantastic sweet girl" in an interview published in a Danish magazine yesterday.

Mr Marriott, 31, said he had dated the 30-year-old Tasmanian, now living in Sydney, for almost three years when they were at school in Hobart.

"I used to tease her that one day she would find a rich prince," he said.

The pair broke off the relationship when Ms Donaldson began a law degree at the University of Tasmania.

The former Sydney real estate agent has been dating Prince Frederik since the pair met at the Slip Inn bar during the Sydney Olympics.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:21 PM

Sydney Confidential.

By PETER HOLDER, JO CASAMENTO and NAOMI TOY, Additional reporting Penelope Cross.
18 May 2002
Daily Telegraph
&copy; 2002 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

Mary makes Danes&#39; day DENMARK has been celebrating the photo they were waiting to see - Sydney real estate agent Mary Donaldson with Prince Frederik.

And to cement her place in the nation&#39;s history books, Denmark&#39;s largest tabloid, Ekstra Bladet, featured Mary, 30, as their Page 9 girl - the Danish equivalent of England&#39;s Page 3 girls.

Showing nothing but the Danes&#39; fascination with the attractive Australian, the photo was of a fully dressed Mary walking along a street with her mobile phone.

Like all the other girls who feature in the Danish tabloid, Donaldson will also be paid for the pic.

Ekstra Bladet&#39;s news editor Soren Juhler personally delivered the &#036;200 fee to Mary Donaldson c/o Amalienborg Palace.

Juhler told Confidential the palace staff readily accepted the letter addressed to Mary Donaldson, verifying connections with the Court.

Juhler added that "we may have to contact the palace again, when we elect the page nine girl of the month who gets an additional &#036;850. Of course that&#39;ll now have to be Mary," he said.

In Aarhus, where Mary has previously been residing at the regal summer residence, Marselisborg Palace, the couple met Frederik&#39;s brother Joachim. And while Prince Frederik raced his sailboat Nanoq in The Dragon Battle of Jutland race off the coast of Aarhus, Mary spent the afternoon shopping for lingerie. The couple spent the evening out at one of Aarhus&#39;s many cafes.

Giving Mary the loving nickname of Kanga - matching Frederik&#39;s own of Pingo - there is no doubt that the Danes are more than ready to welcome the attractive Mary into the Danish Royal Court with open arms.

Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:21 PM

A royal rendezvous - Mary flies out to spend New Year with her prince.

452 words
23 December 2001
Sunday Telegraph
© 2001 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

PRINCESS-in-waiting Mary Donaldson flew out of Sydney yesterday to be closer to Denmark&#39;s Crown Prince Frederik.

The 28-year-old former real estate agent arrived at Sydney International Airport at 3.30pm to board Qantas Flight 319 to London, where she will spend Christmas with her family before meeting up with the handsome bachelor again before New Year&#39;s Eve.

She was seen in Bondi Junction yesterday morning dressed in a light blue sleeveless top and grey pants, and was wearing the same outfit when she said goodbye to Australia at the airport.

Ms Donaldson, who met the former Navy SEAL commando during the Olympics, finished up her job with Belle Property last Tuesday and called in the removalists to her house on Thursday.

"Mary said she was going to London indefinitely," one friend said. "We had some farewell drinks for her on Friday and she was planning to fly out over the weekend."

Her trip to London will allow her to spend more time with her parents, Oxford mathematics lecturer John and his wife Susan Moody.

Journalist Peter Juul, of Denmark&#39;s royal magazine Billed-Bladet, said Ms Donaldson would not spend Christmas with Prince Frederik in Denmark because their relationship was still not official.

"Officially there is no relationship - so unless they choose to announce their engagement at Christmas, which we dream about - we don&#39;t think she will be here for Christmas," Juul said.

Prince Frederik will spend Christmas, celebrated in Denmark on the 24th, with his family. But he will have almost a week off before his next official engagement on January 1, fuelling rumours of a romantic European interlude with Ms Donaldson.

"There are five or six days when they could be together - but we don&#39;t know where that will be," Juul said.

Since the couple met, Prince Frederik has wooed Ms Donaldson from afar, speaking to her each day by phone and travelling to Australia at least six times to see her. They spent some of the northern summer together at a French chateau.

A move to London would take the relationship to a new level, putting them within three hours flying time of each other.

Frederik&#39;s father King Henrik has said that he has yet to meet Mary, but it is still unclear whether she has been presented to Queen Margrethe, who must approve of any engagement.

Ms Donaldson&#39;s father, John Donaldson, is said to be happy for his daughter, telling Billed-Bladet: "It doesn&#39;t matter if it is the prince or a plumber" as long as she was happy.

Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:23 PM

Danes in a royal frenzy for Prince&#39;s mystery girl.

593 words
22 November 2001
Daily Telegraph
&copy; 2001 Nationwide News Proprietary Ltd

NEVER mind who won the elections, what the Danish public really wants to know is, has Mary Donaldson won his heart? The heart in question belongs to Denmark&#39;s Crown Prince Frederik, who faces intense speculation in the next weeks as his homeland awaits an announcement from the royal household on an engagement to the Tasmanian-born law graduate.

With the general election decided yesterday in favour of Anders Fogh Rasmussen&#39;s conservative Liberals, it removes any barrier for making the news official.

Ms Donaldson, 28, who works for Kings Cross boutique real estate firm Belle Property, has enjoyed a secret romance with the Prince, who is consistently voted one of Denmark&#39;s most popular citizens.

Several journalists have travelled from Denmark to get the latest scoop on the romance, including Niels Pinborg, from Ekstra Bladet.

Mr Pinborg is sure Ms Donaldson is "the one". He says the best proof for this is that the couple sustained a successful long-distance relationship following their chance meeting at a party during the Olympics.

Prince Frederik returned home last week from a two-week holiday in north Queensland, rumoured to be his sixth trip Down Under to visit his girlfriend.

"The royal family is such a popular institution in Denmark. Since Prince Frederik has grown up, the public has been very interested in his relationships," Mr Pinborg said.

"People want to see him settle down. He is 33 years old, after all."

Mr Pinborg said the Prince would probably never again have the opportunity to get to know a girlfriend in his own good time. It was not until last month that her identity was known.

"With his earlier relationships, they were Danish girls. Two days wouldn&#39;t pass before rumours started and the public knew everything about the girl," he said.

"This is the other reason why we think this is going to be the one."

If being thrown into the media spotlight was part of the test, Ms Donaldson is also making the grade - she has consistently impressed the media with her gracious and good humoured attitude and was spotted last night on her way to the gym.

One of the things the pair have in common is a love of sport, something that will go down well in Denmark, where three out of four young people play sport regularly and almost half the adult population belong to sports clubs.

The couple met at the party to celebrate Denmark&#39;s gold medal in women&#39;s handball.

Ms Donaldson&#39;s two sisters, Patricia and Jane, are aerobics instructors in Hobart, where support for the relationship is strong.

Ms Donaldson&#39;s former neighbours in Morris Ave, Taroona, a middle-class suburb of Hobart, were impressed by the unlikely love match.

Lorraine Hudson said Ms Donaldson was more of a career girl than a social butterfly.

"I think it&#39;s good, it&#39;s something we can all be pleased with. Compared with most social circles, she would be considered a normal girl," she said.

Common touch Prince Frederik can be guided by two examples close to home if he&#39;s wondering if a marriage with a commoner will work: * HIS brother, Prince Joachim, has made a strong match with Hong Kong-born Alexandra Christina Manley, now Princess Alexandra of Denmark, who worked in an investment company * PRINCE Frederik was best man at the wedding of Norway&#39;s Crown Prince Haakon to single mother Mette-Marit Hoiby, the one-time Wangaratta schoolgirl, in August.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:26 PM

How this schoolgirl won the Prince of Denmark.

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8 July 2002
Hobart Mercury
&copy; 2002 Davies Brothers Limited

MARY Donaldson was just an ordinary girl.

She spent her teenage years living a quiet life with her family in Tasmania.

The youngest of four - three girls and a boy - Mary lived in a modest house in the pretty suburb of Taroona and was a prefect at Taroona High School.

She went on to Hobart College, where she displayed talent in basketball and hockey.

Described by former teachers as a good girl with a bright future, Mary made good these predictions by going on to study law at the University of Tasmania for the following five years.

Like other young students, she had a boyfriend and supported her social life by working at a local hotel.

Her father, John, held the position of head of mathematics at the University of Tasmania.

The family was hit by tragedy when mother, Etta, died at a young age.

Mary&#39;s brother, John, moved interstate. Older sisters Jane and Patricia took up careers, one as a nurse, the other a pharmacist. Father remarried - to author Susan Moody - and took a temporary position at Oxford University.

Mary graduated and, like so many young Tasmanians, moved interstate to seek work.

With that background, Mary could be anybody, right? Wrong.

The career in real estate that followed was a progression in keeping enough with the preamble.

But then she met the Prince of Denmark, and her outrageous good fortune since has given the world a love story of Shakespearean proportions.

At 30 and about to be betrothed to her prince, Mary is the Princess Di of Denmark and a figure of international fascination.

She can say goodbye forever to the low-key life she had in Tasmania.

It is believed Mary first met the Crown Prince Frederik, 34-year-old heir to the Danish throne, at a function at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

Romance blossomed between the estate agent and the handsome young royal.

Over the next year or so he visited Sydney every two months to see her and she made trips to see him.

After their relationship was revealed, Mary moved to Paris to be closer to her royal mate.

When this failed to give them enough time together, Mary moved into the Danish Royal Court&#39;s holiday palace.

The news spread rapidly and the paparazzi went into action to capture the Aussie beauty they dubbed "Kanga".

One top-selling gossip magazine - Se og Hoer (See or Hear) - offered 10,000 kroner (&#036;2300) for photos.

She has even been featured as a "Page 9 girl" - equivalent to an English Page 3 girl - in Denmark&#39;s largest tabloid, Ekstra Bladet.

Settling for a picture of a fully dressed Mary chatting on her mobile phone shows just how intense the interest is.

Hong Kong-born Princess Alexandra, wife of Frederik&#39;s brother Joachim, says Mary is being primed just as she was for princesshood - including completing a 200-lesson course in speaking Danish.

An engagement announcement is expected next month, with news Mary&#39;s father has taken leave from the University of Tasmania to fly to Denmark.

Mary has her own bodyguard and even had her 30th birthday party at the palace.

Her current residence - Marselisborg Palace - is in Aarhus, Demark&#39;s second largest city, and sits in an English-style 13ha park surrounded by lakes and trees.

Rarely open to the public, it is Queen Margrethe&#39;s favourite holiday spot, indicating Mary has gained her blessing.

Frederik was living three hours away in Copenhagen until recently, when he finished his studies and graduated from military training.

It was reported that Mary spends her mornings jogging, riding the royal horses, having brunch and shopping in Stroget.

She has been spending much of her time with Joachim and Alexandra, who live close to the holiday palace.

She has been described in magazine stories as intelligent, independent, active and diplomatic and is often compared to enigmatic Swedish silent movie siren Greta Garbo.

The Danish public believe Mary has brought out the quieter side of the Crown Prince, once reputed to be an international playboy.

The Mary-loving Danes were thrown into panic when the Crown Prince was recently spied having coffee with a former girlfriend, London-based designer Bettina Odum.

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Lorraine 11-28-2002 08:28 PM

Three weddings and a christening ... But Mary is still waiting.

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28 August 2002
Hobart Mercury
&copy; 2002 Davies Brothers Limited

SHE has been to three weddings and a christening ... but there&#39;s still no firm date for Tasmania&#39;s Mary Donaldson to become a princess.

The 30-year-old real-life Cinderella is not only living in the royal palace, riding the royal horses and learning the language - she is now looking the part.

Ms Donaldson has attended several formal functions with the Crown Prince of Denmark, including three weddings and a baptism.

The former Hobart woman is turning heads with her refined elegance and Danish designer clothes.

The couple, who shunned public occasions early in their relationship, attended the wedding of a friend of Frederik&#39;s last Saturday.

The editor of Danish magazine Billed Bladet, Peter Juul, said it was the wedding of count Otto Rheetz-Thott, "... Frederik&#39;s good friend from the `blue-blooded&#39; circles ... who inherited the family&#39;s beautiful fairytale castle Gavnoe, south of Copenhagen".

He said the pair had also attended the wedding of Jeppe Handwerk, a navy friend of the Crown Prince, on August 17.

"Mary was beautifully dressed and they looked very much in love," Juul said.

"She&#39;s got her own Danish designer now."

Danish journalist Anna Johannesen said: "She has now been to three weddings with the Crown Prince and she looks gorgeous."

Danish royal watchers remain convinced an engagement between the pair, who first met at the Sydney Olympics in 2000, is imminent and that they will marry in May next year.

Ms Donaldson has even been spotted with a large ring on her left ring finger. Sources also say Queen Margrethe of Denmark has taken a strong liking to the Tasmanian woman.

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EUR - Fairytale days for Tasmanian in Denmark&#39;s royal palace.

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Danish television today reported that Australian Mary Donaldson had become engaged to Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark, although there is no official confirmation. BELINDA TASKER reports on how a Tasmanian has become a phenomenon in Denmark

By Belinda Tasker

COPENHAGEN, AAP - Mary Donaldson - whether she likes it or not - is fast becoming Denmark&#39;s equivalent of Lady Di.

Every detail of the 30-year-old Australian&#39;s life has been scrutinised since she began her fairytale romance with Denmark&#39;s popular Crown Prince Frederik at the Sydney Olympics two years ago.

Marriage speculation has escalated to frenzied proportions in recent months.

TvDanmark, citing political sources, reported today the pair would marry on May 24 next year.

The royal palace said it "had not heard word of any engagement".

In recent months Mary has become a cover girl on a string of European magazines devoted to royals and celebrities.

Paparazzi photographers follow her every move, Danish television chat shows discuss her designer outfits while gossip magazine headlines have been screaming for the young couple to tie the knot.

The Danes love their royal family and they love Mary.

And like Princess Diana, no detail of their possible future Queen&#39;s life is too small to discuss.

When she started work in Copenhagen earlier this month as a consultant at IT firm Navision, part of the Microsoft empire, it was front page news.

When she moved from the royal palace into her own plush apartment in an upmarket harbourside suburb of Copenhagen a few months ago, people read about her furniture choices.

When she pops into one of Copenhagen&#39;s many fashion boutiques, magazines quiz staff about what she buys and rush out articles about how ordinary women can dress like Mary.

The Danish press and the public have adopted Mary as one of their own and are not in the slightest bit worried about her lack of royal heritage and humble beginnings in Hobart.

In fact, some Danes regard Mary&#39;s Tasmanian background as rather exotic.

The couple were photographed at several well-heeled parties this European summer, sparking a wave of speculation that they would announce their engagement this month and have a spring wedding in May.

Locals say they are thrilled with the idea of Mary, 30, becoming their Queen one day.

"People can tell he looks happy with her and they have been encouraging their romance," one of the prince&#39;s many female admirers told AAP.

"For the media, Mary is the creme de la creme at the moment."

Rumours have been circulating for months that the prince&#39;s mother Queen Margrethe has been helping Mary ease into the royal spotlight and giving her advice on being a royal.

If the couple do marry, royalty from around the world are expected to be invited to witness the nuptials.

"She is the right age, she is well educated and good looking and sporty and he (the prince) likes sporty women," says renowned royal reporter Anna Johannesen, of top selling magazine Billed Bladet.

"And one important thing is that she can keep her mouth shut - she hasn&#39;t said anything.

"She is the Princess Diana of Denmark, but better I think."

If the wedding does go ahead and Mary becomes a crown princess, the speculation about her life is not likely to end there.

The wedding bells will scarcely have faded before the Danes will start thinking about a royal baby.

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Rick 12-12-2002 05:59 AM

I&#39;ve had another gender identity crisis and read this in a womans magazine. I&#39;ll post the rest when I type the next 2 pages out

It&#39;s a long way from Morris Avenue in the middle-class Hobart suburb of Taroona, to the rococo spenduor of Copenhagen&#39;s Amalienborg Palace. Yet this is the leap that Mary Elizabeth Donaldson - Australia&#39;s very own Cinderella and future queen-in-waiting - may be making in the near future.

To be or not to be, that is the question vexing royal watchers in Europe&#39;s oldest kingdom, as the romance hots up between the Danish Crown Prince Fredrik Andre Henrik Christian, 34 an his beautiful sweetheart, Tasmanian lawyer-cum-real estate sales manager, Mary, 30, who moved to Denmark last December to be near him.

The handsome couple who met at Sydney&#39;s trendy Slip Inn during the 2000 Olympics and have since conducted a highly secretive 2 year romance, are widely tipped to be on the point on an engagement. In fact, the Danish press has jumped the gun several times in recent months, even going so far as to name the marriage date - May 24 next year- despite the fact that the Prince&#39;s mother. The imposing Queen Magarethe II, has yet to meet Mary.

The Queen&#39;s reticence to formally acknowledged her eldest son&#39;s relationship is hardly surprising given his reputation as a playboy with a string of previous girlfriends, who up until Mary had been deemed rank outsiders in the royal stakes.

In early 1997, the then 28 year old prince was involved in a scandal, when photographs were published in Sweden of him cavorting naked in a pool with a similarly naked Danish pop singer.

According to Danish royal watcher, Mads Jensen of the magazine Ekstra Bladet, Mary is by far the most serious amorata to date. "Some of the others you could not take too seriously" he says There was a pop singer and a model, and I am sure Fredrik had a very nice time with them, but you never felt for a moment that they were going to be the next queen.

"Mary is completely different. Most of the time, she keeps a low profile, but when you do see her, she is beautifully dressed and always dignified, If her aim is to marry the prince, she is playing the perfect game"

Historian Henning Dehn-Nielsen, the author of Fredrik, Prince of Denmark, echoes this view. "She has all the qualities for a queen and is radiantly lovely. Mary has a good education she is discreet and, for me, is the ideal princess."

And it seems that many Danes agree with him. Opinion polls published in the country&#39;s newspapers indicate wholehearted support for the dark-eyed brunette from Down Under. "Mary is perceived very positively in Denmark," says Australia&#39;s Royal Danish Consul-General, Ole Malmgren.

On paper the couple would seem ideally suited. Fredrik, 34 known as "Pingo" to his close friends and dubbed "the Turbo Prince" by the Danish press because of his penchant for fast cars, is a Harvard University political science graduate and a sports fanatic who runs marathons. Also a graduate of the Danish Defence Academy, the handsome Prince is not only a former Navy SEAL and SAS trainee, but also an accomplished pilot, dog-sledder and skier.

Mary, 30, a commerce/law graduate from the University of Tasmania, shares the Prince&#39;s passion for the piste and is very sporty. At her former alma mater, Taroona High School, she was a keen track and field athelete and a talented runner, as well as a student councillor and prefect.

At Hobart College, where Mary attended Years 11 & 12 in 1988 & 1989, she was a member of the shco&#39;s baskeball team and played hockey. As well as skiing she aslo waterskis.

"It couldn&#39;t be a better match, a Dane and an Australian

Tisha 12-12-2002 10:56 AM


"Mary is completely different. Most of the time, she keeps a low profile, but when you do see her, she is beautifully dressed and always dignified, If her aim is to marry the prince, she is playing the perfect game"

I&#39;m sorry, what outfits is she referring to? Shall we bust out the photo archive and relive the white tank tops, the white pants that seemed to be the only pair she brought with her to France, and the not-so-fashionable first and third wedding outfits?

I have to agree with the remark about being dignified though. She has a certain air of confidence when she is walking about from the pictures I have seen and she has kept a low profile in terms of talking to the press and creating a scandal.

I&#39;m sorry I am being so catty in all my posts today. I have a major paper due today and I haven&#39;t exactly started it yet. I am taking procrastination to the highest level and am feeling the stress&#33;

Lorraine 12-14-2002 11:20 AM

Hey Rick, Julia, Jacqueline, Kelly B, Sylvia and Tisha. :)

How are you? Thanks Rick for typing out the article. It was an old one and I typed it out in previous topics. Here is what I typed out :

The name of this article is Australia&#39;s Cinderella: Mary Donaldson, The tassie girl who may become Queen of Denmark. Page 24 - 28. The Australian Women&#39;s weekly (Its suppose to be a monthly magazine, but they didn&#39;t want to change the name) November issue.

Article by Rennie Bruce

Mary, 30, a Commerce/Law graduate from the University of Tasmania, shares the Prince&#39;s passion for the piste and is very sporty. At her former Alma mater, Taroona High school, she was a keen track-and-field athlete and a talented runner, as well as astudent councillor and prefect.

At Hobart college, where Mary attended Years 11 and 12 in 1988 and 1989, she was a member of the School&#39;s basketball team and played hockey. As well as skiing and also waterski&#39;s.

"It couldn&#39;t be a better match, a Dane and an Australian," says Torben Ebbesen, pastor of Sydney&#39;s Danish Church. "Prince Frederik is a very nice person, very down to earth and that is why I think he has fallen for an Australian. He is very much into being a pilot, doing all the adventures and sports is one of his passions. Mary is very sporty, too,which is good".

The young Mary Elizabeth Donaldson&#39;s childhood gave no indication of her future destiny as a would be Royal. The youngest of four children of Heinrietta 9Etta) and John Donaldson, she was born in Hobart in 1972 and lived briefly in Texas, USA before her family returned to Tasmania and Taroona, where Mary attended high school. A gifted student, Mary enrolled in law at the University of Tasmani, where both her parents worked, Etta (mother) as a secretary and father John as head of the mathematics department.

Mary&#39;s stepmother, Susan says &#39;All that matters to the family is that mary is happy. We have no idea if she is getting married or not. and frankly, we wouldn&#39;t presume to ask her. I am sure she will tell us anything we need to know. I understand completely the interest and, as a matter of fact, I share it. But you would imagine she is under enough pressure without us demanding to know what is going on".

Kim Brett, who worked with mary at Belle Property in Sydney&#39;s Kings Cross, says the romace between the Danish Prince and the property manager was a closely guarded secret. "I used to try to persuade her to come out with us more, but she would say she had a boyfriend overseas and he would phone everynight", She says. "I would say, forget about him, come out and have some fun&#39; Then I found out who it was, I thought,"He&#39;s a bloody Prince. No wonder she didn&#39;t want to come out with us".

"She was so discreet about it. She&#39;s one of those girls who&#39;ll never tell anyone anything. She never gossiped. You knew you could tell her your deepest, darkest secrets and she would never tell anyone.

Janice Nazario, who worked with Mary at Advertising agents &#39;Young and Rubicam" around the time of the Olympic games, agrees. &#39;She was very discreet and never let on that she&#39;d met this fellow. She was very attractive and vivacious. Not the quiet, shy type at all."

Judging by the comments of friends and colleagues, Mary Elizabeth Donaldson was the exactly the sort of girl that Frederik was looking for.

John Donaldson : He recently told a Danish Journalist "It doesn&#39;t matter to me if she marries a Prince or a plumber. As far as I am concerned, she and Frederik are simply two people who have fallen in love and, as long as they are happy, so am I. She is a great girl from a good family and I know that whatever she decides to do will be the right thing".

Have fun and take care all&#33;&#33;&#33; :D

Kelly B 12-14-2002 12:42 PM

It sounds from all available stories, that Mary appears to be eager to wait about for Fred. Her friends used to invite her out and she would wait by the phone for Fred to call.
I hope Fred hasn&#39;t been leading Mary or Mary hasn&#39;t read too far into Fred&#39;s comments to her.
If her step-mom said to a journalist that a spring engagement was promised this year, that would be bordering on pathetic. She certainly has made her choices, hasn&#39;t she?

I didn&#39;t think for awhile that her step-mom had actually made such a comment, but after reading the conversation in BB and that ridiculous picture in front of the palace, I wouldn&#39;t put it past her.

I wonder what QM thought upon returning from England to see a picture of Mary&#39;s parents on her doorstep in the tabs?

Lorraine 12-14-2002 12:55 PM

Hey Kelly B,

I think that the reactions and answers to the press by Mary&#39;s parents was pretty silly, considering he is suppose to be a Professor and she a respectable crime writer. I am saying this not to be catty or mean, but I can&#39;t imagine both of them being the future Grandparents of a future King of Denmark. Princess Alexandra&#39;s parents had class, even though they were divorced and were very presentable. Here you have a picture of them waving at the press with a big smile and dollar signs in their eyes, reminds me so much of the Goldfield days in California when a nugget of gold was found and just that look. They had to pose of all places right outside Amaliensborg castle?. :rolleyes:

I don&#39;t think that Queen Margrethe would be very pleased with that photo and shocked too. :o :x :blink: All this reminds me so much of Sven Hoiby. Its like they are taking this opportunity to create some publicity for themselves. I bet poor Mary must be angry, afterall, she has waited so long and so close to hitting the jackpot and now thanks to her parents this had to happen. I think that she would be heading off to Paris, Brazil or England the next time her parents were in town, who wouldn&#39;t. :x


:heart: Lorissa

MariaF 12-14-2002 02:29 PM


Princess Alexandra&#39;s parents aren&#39;t divorced.

I think the interviews are kind of odd. Why her father simply doesn&#39;t say &#39;I would prefer not to talk about Mary, thanks&#39; is beyond me. He says in one sentence &#39;I would prefer that any news came from Mary&#39; yet speaks to the reporter. And when asked about May 24th he starts &#39;messing around&#39; in stead of just saying &#39;No&#39;. I mean his wife then says &#39;But John you&#39;re teaching that day&#33;&#39;. Why this secrecy? I find it quite odd also that he doesn&#39;t seem to be especially interested in what&#39;s going on. &#39;I don&#39;t what to pry&#39; (spelling) he says. They surely cannot be very close if he doesn&#39;t speak to her about this. I mean she only has one parent left - you would think she were very close with him.

Well, I still think they just should have said &#39;no coments, please&#39;. Wouldn&#39;t that be the proper thing to do?


Julia 12-21-2002 06:45 PM

According to, Frederik met with Mary&#39;s father while he was visiting in Denmark. Anyone have any speculations as to what Fred and "Dad&#39; chatted about? ;)


Here&#39;s the article in Danish w/ a pic of Fred :)

Frederik alene med Marys far: Møde under fire øjne - nr. 51

Båndene mellem kronprins Frederik og hans kommende svigerfar bliver stærkere og stærkere, efterhånden som de to mænd lærer hinanden bedre at kende.
Mens kronprinsen i begyndelsen udelukkende mødtes med John Donaldson i selskab med Mary, har Frederik nu holdt mindst ét fortroligt møde med sin kommende svigerfar uden Marys tilstedeværelse. Et møde under fire øjne.
Mødet fandt sted i sidste øjeblik, inden Donaldson igen rejste hjem til Oxford, England, og det varede i mere end en time. Tilsyneladende havde både Frederik og John Donaldson behov for en god, fortrolig snak om fremtiden.

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samitude 01-06-2003 11:16 AM

Crown Prince Frederik And Mary Donaldson Current Events: January 2003 - December 2003
I think they will get married either this year or next year.

I think that Mary is more decent than most message board posters say she is. The only real facts that we know about her are the following:
  • She&#39;s from Australia
  • She&#39;s dating Frederik.
  • She works for Navision.
  • Her dad is a university professor and her step mom is a mystery writer.
  • She has a couple of sisters.
  • She lives in Denmark.
  • Mary was the friend of Beatrice&#39;s roomate.
  • She likes to run and exercise.
  • Her middle name is Elisabeth.
  • She took an improvement/modeling course.

These are the only hardcore facts that we know about Mary. We do not know what she is like at all&#33; I have only picked up a tabloid twice in my life and even then I know they are so silly that I cannot even fathom believing what they say. Most of the stories that we hear about her are from tabloids. We cannot prove that everything that Beatrice said was written down correctly.

Beatrice is another matter also. From the beginning I think that everyone is forgetting that Mary was a friend of Beatrice&#39;s roomate, Andrew. I don&#39;t know how close Mary and Beatrice were. If Mary and Beatrice were close friends I don&#39;t think Beatrice would be telling her story to a tabloid.

Another thing I would like to ask is why does everyone think that Mary is on the hunt for a prince? I honestly don&#39;t think that she knew that they were going to be there. Even if she did, tell me, how many of you wouldn&#39;t enjoy the chance of meeting one prince let alone two crown princes, two princes and a prince&#39;s cousin? I don&#39;t think I would have gone to a club because I don&#39;t do that kind of thing, but any other time I would have loved to meet any of these people as I&#39;m sure you all would also.

Frankly, I feel sorry for Mary. All she does is move to Denmark and date Frederik and the female population of the world is on her like a cat seeing a mouse. We need to stick to the facts that we know and not make up things that aren&#39;t true.

I realise that everyone who reads and posts on these boards don&#39;t fall into this category, but this subject really disturbs me. It bothers me when posters make up hurtful things to say about people. It&#39;s one thing when there are facts to go on and people discuss it. For example Princess Diana having that affair with James Hewitt. We know that that was true because she said so on TV.

Julia, I&#39;m not implying by posting this under your post that you are saying these things.:)

samitude 01-06-2003 11:33 AM

I also would like to add that this story about how she talked to a reporter in Danish is probably fiction. How do we know that&#39;s even true? Even if she did talk to him she may have not known he was a reporter. She may have just been trying to be friendly with the person sitting next to her.

I would like people&#39;s input on this matter, but please don&#39;t be insulted by my post or leave the board because of it. B) We need all of our posters and watchers. I guess that&#39;s the right term. What do you call the people who just read the posts, but don&#39;t want to post?:question:

Jacqueline 01-06-2003 11:52 AM

Well, I am certainly not going to take back anything that I have said about Mary. I am entitled to my opinion and I am always going to have it and make it clear when necessary and appropriate.

I am sick and tired of people telling other people not to believe what they read and not to belive tabloids. It is really insulting. I have been around these boards for a while now and I think that it is extremely insulting to posters to say to them that they are getting all of their information from tabloids. Please&#33; It&#39;s obvious that most of us take what we hear with a grain of salt. So, why is it necessary to constantly say to us that we are believing tabloids? It&#39;s the same as saying that we are idiots.

Yes, there are many facts about Mary. I personally believe that many of the things that are said about her are true. Beatrice is not the only person who hinted that Mary likes successful men. Her former co-workers were said to have said the same thing and I doubt that they had to be coaxed into saying it. Do you know why they said this? Because, normally individuals use the most prevalent and common thing that they remember about an individual to describe that individuals&#39; character. They didn&#39;t say anything wrong. They were simply saying the thing that they remember most about Mary.

As far as reading what the paper, magazines, and tabloids say, well I do read them, but my opinions of Mary are based on her actions. I studied psychology for a long time and I don&#39;t need to read any tabloids to tell me what Mary is truly about. All I need are a few pictures of her and I can let her actions speak for her. Her photographs aren&#39;t genuine to be kind about it. She is too eager and tries far too hard. She is not merely someone who is aware of the camera, but she is someone who is searching for them. She is not really trying to live a quiet life. Yes, she has been very good at not speaking to members of the press, but she is always out and about smirking stupidly for the camera. She is really embarassing.

Of course, she is out to get a prince. "Prince-hunt"-I couldn&#39;t have said it better myself. If we had doubts about what Beatrice said in her interview, then we needn&#39;t have them now. Mary&#39;s actions give her motives away clearly. She took a twenty-four hour modeling/etiquette course just a few weeks after meeting Fred. To any intelligent human being that would say a lot. Some people think that Mary is a saint for taking the course in order to prepare for her future role as CP/Queen. I think she flatters herself and is quite pathetic. It is really sad that this young woman would only see fit to take a course like this after meeting the CP of Denmark and wanting to be in his company. I don&#39;t buy that whole "life is passing me by" routine that she put on for Ms. Page. Let&#39;s be direct here: Mary didn&#39;t want Fred to pass her by and she needed help. I have no respect for a young woman who has lived the way in which she has with a modicum of manners and poise and yet only saw fit to change these things about herself when an available man came along. She is completely transparent. She is also an embarassement, because I think that it was in very bad taste for her to take such a course in a place that thrives on publicity. She took this horrid course and then it was made public to the world. If she had any sense or class at all she would have rented or bought a few videos and read a few books in order to try and perfect her image. Instead she did it in a completely public way while spending nearly &#036;2000.

I don&#39;t care if she has moved across the world to be with Fred or near him. That is not an honorable nor sensible thing IMO. That is perhaps the most stupid thing that she has yet to do. I think that it is insane for anyone to move thousands of miles away to be with a man or woman when no promises have been made (engagement/marriage). It reaks of stupidity and dependency upon someone who may not even want to be with you in another year or so. She didn&#39;t do anything noble by doing this. She was being silly and far too eager IMO.

I also do not appreciate the way in which she simply moved in to Amelienborg for months without a job or anything of the sort simply living a leisurely lifestyle. I don&#39;t care if Fred allowed her to do this. It is up to any civilized, sophisticated and sensible human being to know that this is not the proper way in which to introduce yourself to a man, his family and the citizens of a country which is a constitutional monarchy. The fact that someone allows you to do something doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that you should do it. Does she not possess the ability to think or reason?

As far my meeting a prince, I couldn&#39;t care less. I am not Mary. I am Jacqueline. I was raised well, I have common sense, and a major amount of respect and belief for myself and in myself. I don&#39;t care if a man is a prince. I am not going to uproot my life for anyone, regardless of their title or station in life. I care about myself far more than I care about any man or what "title" they may hold. If you want to get into my good graces, my dear you will need much more than a title, money and a friendly smile. If I meet a member of a royal family, then great. However, I am not going to start turning cartwheels and moving across the globe for anyone. There is something called subtlety. Obvious Mary has yet to hear of this thing.

I don&#39;t feel sorry for Mary. Anything that she gets be it good or bad is something that comes with this type of lifestyle. When you become involved with a public individual you have to deal with this type of ridicule as you would when you distribute behavior that is less than graceful. I am sick and tired of people who always go around whining, "She is a private person, she should be left alone." That is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard. When you date a public person, you should expect to lose some if not an extremely large amount of privacy. Also, when you make it a point to constantly smile and put on a show for the cameras, your "privacy" just isn&#39;t taken as seriously it may have once been.

Will they get married? I have no comment on it. I don&#39;t know. I will wait and see along with everyone else. This relationship is so ridiculously warped IMO that I can&#39;t bring myself to remark on any possible upcoming engagment or marriage.

BTW, I personally refer to the people who read the posts and who never post as lurkers.

samitude 01-06-2003 12:41 PM

Ahh, lurkers, I think that&#39;s the word. Thank you. I couldn&#39;t think of what it was.

Well, if you think that about Mary you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Like I said in my previous post I am not wanting to insult anyone. I choose to believe that she is alot better than people make her out to be and so I&#39;m sticking up for her. :) If she was going around topless or posing in lingerie I definitely wouldn&#39;t be defending her&#33; I don&#39;t like everything she wears, etc., but that can be changed. Margrethe said in an article that Henrik is the one who decides what she should wear because she (herself) has an awful sense of fashion.

Julia 01-06-2003 02:57 PM

Hey Sylvia! Don't worry, I didn't take your post that way at all. I am so glad to see some major discussions taking place and it's great!! Never apologise for your opinion. ;)

Jacqueline, your post is great as well. I am so glad to see these responses! We need more like them! Good show, ladies!

I am not copping out of giving a reply...I will give one later (believe you me). It's just that I am at work! ;)

Julia :)

Oh, lurkers....yes, we need them as well as all of our other members to speak up! ;) Come on guys we want to hear your opnions!


Jacqueline 01-06-2003 11:53 PM

Hi Julia and Sylvia&#33;

I am only insulted by the tabloid comment and I have of course gotten over it. :D

Julia, I can&#39;t wait to see your reply to this question. ;)

I still can&#39;t reply on whether or not Fred and Mary will eventually marry. I am not sure. At times I am really weary of this situation and more importantly Fred and Mary.

Attention: Lurkers (no offense meant of course ;) ) It&#39;s really okay to post something. I promise that we won&#39;t bite. We may get into a heated debate or discussion, but it&#39;s all in fun&#33; We want to hear everyone&#39;s opinion. :) ;)

Julia 01-07-2003 12:27 AM

Hey ladies&#33; I am still mulling over my reply... ;) I promise to reply soon; I mean after all I did start the thread, so I should respond&#33; :D

Yes, to all of our non-posting friends....please post&#33; We really and truly won&#39;t bite&#33; :)


kelly9480 01-07-2003 12:43 AM


Originally posted by samitude@Jan 6th, 2003 - 11:41 am
Margrethe said in an article that Henrik is the one who decides what she should wear because she (herself) has an awful sense of fashion.
Well Henrik should be shot because some of the outfits he&#39;s chosen for the wife are just wrong :lol: We&#39;re always told how she designs her own clothing, though :unsure:

Having read over his interview from the beginning of 2002, I don&#39;t think they&#39;ll marry. He talked about still not having found the one and that was after he was with Mary. I don&#39;t see grand passion between them and I think that since his parents and his brother have great love affairs, he&#39;s not going to settle for anything less.

Jacqueline 01-07-2003 01:01 AM


Well Henrik should be shot because some of the outfits he's chosen for the wife are just wrong :lol: We're always told how she designs her own clothing, though :unsure:

Having read over his interview from the beginning of 2002, I don't think they'll marry. He talked about still not having found the one and that was after he was with Mary. I don't see grand passion between them and I think that since his parents and his brother have great love affairs, he's not going to settle for anything less.
Wow! I didn't know that. Yes he should be "shot" or at least be made to have a seat and be talked to about this. Her Majesty has worn a few questionable ensembles over the years. :huh: :blink:

I forgot the comment that you mentioned Kelly D. about Fred saying that he hadn't found "the one" while still being with Mary. I do remember someone once mentioning something like that some time ago. I can't believe that it slipped my mind so quicky. Well, I am sure that Mary heard about that. She has to be very pathetic to still stay with someone after he has publicly admitted something of that nature. :doh: Granted that relationships end all of the time because people are not ment for one another, I personally would have found it hard to stay around after that. Of course, she has just relocated so she may be trying to maintain some sort of dignity about the matter in her eyes.....Still pathetic IMO.

Jacqueline 01-10-2003 12:43 AM

Here&#39;s an article from The Australian about Fred&#39;s trip to Tasmania, sans Mary nonetheless.

Where&#39;s Mary? :D

Prince sails as Mary slaves
By Carol Altmann and Vanda Carson
January 10, 2003

PRINCE Frederik of Denmark has flown to Hobart for two weeks of sailing in the home state of his girlfriend Mary Donaldson, ramping up speculation that the pair will soon become engaged.

But the 34-year-old heir to the Danish throne arrived without Ms Donaldson, who is reportedly still too busy at work to join her prince.

Ms Donaldson, 30, now lives in Denmark and works for a division of Microsoft.

The prince said Ms Donaldson was frustrated she could not fly to Tasmania with him.

"It&#39;s hard for her to think I am in her place and she is not around – she&#39;s having a lot of trouble thinking about that," he said.

"She has a good job back home and she can&#39;t really leave that right now."

However, Ms Donaldson, who is expected to join the Prince soon, has rarely been sighted at her workplace, just north of Copenhagen, because she has taken frequent holidays with Frederik to Brazil, the Swiss Alps and the Danish royal family&#39;s French chateau. The prince flew into Hobart direct from Copenhagen yesterday to compete in the Dragon Class yachting world championships.

In a rare media interview, Frederik would not say if he would ask Ms Donaldson to marry him, but said he was enjoying the relationship.

"That is hard to say – I can&#39;t reveal that anyway," he said. &#39;It&#39;s basically enjoying myself and getting to know each other more."

With the Danish media hungry for any news on the royal romance, the prince&#39;s preparedness to fly across the world for a two-week sailing holiday is being interpreted as another strong signal of his intentions.

As Frederik prepared his yacht, Nanoq, at the Hobart docks yesterday, Danish newspapers were reporting that Ms Donaldson and Queen Margrethe recently went to the movies together to see the second instalment of The Lord of The Rings.

Ms Donaldson spent the night at the royal palace on December 23, and celebrated New Year&#39;s Eve with Frederik at a Danish private estate, Scheel Estate, in Trend, according to the Danish press.

Frederik confirmed yesterday that he had met Ms Donaldson&#39;s father, mathematics lecturer John Donaldson, and her stepmother, author Susan Moody, last month.

"They are good people, good folks. They are proud Tasmanians, which is good," he said.


Jacqueline 01-10-2003 09:26 AM

Another article about Fred&#39;s sailing......

Prince proves it&#39;s all in the jeans

THE Crown Prince of Denmark will spend the next two weeks lapping up the warmth of a Hobart summer while his Tasmanian girlfriend endures sub-zero temperatures in his homeland.

That was what Prince Frederik said when he turned up unannounced at the Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania in Sandy Bay yesterday.

In town for the world dragon class championships, the Prince said it was a shame to be in Hobart without Mary Donaldson but that she had commitments in Denmark.

However, Mary is expected to arrive in Hobart next week.

Prince Frederik arrived at the yacht club early yesterday afternoon, dressed casually and relatively unnoticed.

If not for his link with Mary, who he is tipped to marry, the 34-year-old may not have been noticed at all.

But this was his first trip to Mary&#39;s home city and, despite being here to sail, there was speculation surrounding his relationship with her.

Dressed in a casual yellow jumper and blue jeans, the Prince was accommodating to the small contingent of Tasmanian journalists and photographers who approached him.

The Danish paparazzi had been arriving in Hobart since Wednesday, but none was there when the Prince quietly emerged to set up his sail boat Nanoq for the dragon championships.

Prince Frederik was polite, enthusiastic about the championships and coy when questioned about 30-year-old Mary, who he has been seeing since the Sydney Olympics in 2000.

Asked if he planned to propose to her in her home town, he laughed and gave away nothing.

"I don&#39;t think it&#39;s going to be right here actually," he said. "We are just enjoying ourselves, getting to know each other more."

He did say Mary wished she was in Hobart.

"It&#39;s hard for her to think I&#39;m here in her own place," he said.

Asked if she was here too, he said: "Not right now, she&#39;s got a good job at home."

Prince Frederik said his "princess-in-waiting" was still acclimatising to the "crystal cold" Danish weather while he was enjoying the Hobart sun.

He said he hoped to see some of the beautiful Tasmanian spots she had recommended, such as Wineglass Bay and Seven Mile Beach.

But the Prince, whose father is president of the International Dragon Class Association, said most of his days would be spent preparing for the championships rather than sightseeing.

"I hope to see some of the sights but it depends if and when there&#39;s time," he said.

Prince Frederik said he might be able to finally meet Mary&#39;s older sisters, Patricia Woods and Jane Stephens.

"That&#39;s a good point and chances are [reasonable] but we will see how things progress," he said.

The Prince described Mary&#39;s father, John Donaldson, and stepmother, Susan Moody, who visited the pair in Copenhagen recently, as "good people, good Tasmanians".

But he wouldn&#39;t confirm whether his own mother, Queen Margrethe, had met his potential bride.

"Some say she hasn&#39;t, some say she has," he said. "I&#39;m not going to clarify particularly but, being in Denmark for a long time, you would say it&#39;s about time they had."

Mary, who grew up at Taroona and went to Taroona High School and the University of Tasmania before moving to Sydney and becoming a real estate agent, is expected to arrive in Hobart next week after attending a christening for Danish actress Ellen Hillingso&#39;s child.


Josefine 01-10-2003 01:18 PM

Visit to future in-laws
11 jan 03

A SMILING Prince Frederik returned from his first sailing event yesterday to find his potential in-laws waiting for him.

John Donaldson and Susan Moody, parents of the Danish Crown Prince&#39;s girlfriend Mary Donaldson, were at the Royal Hobart Yacht Club from about 3.30 yesterday afternoon to greet the Prince.

He looked very happy to see the pair as he and his crew came in on Nanoq about 5pm.

They had come seventh in the invitation race, a warm-up for the Prince Philip Cup today.

Professor Donaldson and Ms Moody, looking uncomfortable with the media attention, waited patiently, declining all attempts by journalists to interview them.

A television crew, two photographers and four reporters followed Ms Moody and Prince Frederik as they walked to the silver Honda Prelude where Professor Donaldson was waiting.

Professor Donaldson, former head of mathematics at the University of Tasmania, and Susan Moody, an author, spend six months abroad every year.

It is believed they returned from England some time yesterday, but it is not known if Mary came back to Hobart with them.

She is expected to come to Tasmania from Denmark next week, after attending a christening at the weekend.

It is thought Prince Frederik spent time at Professor Donaldson and Ms Moody&#39;s home in Sandy Bay last night.

The couple would not comment on whether Mary would soon be in Hobart or if they planned to show their royal visitor the sights of Hobart.


Jacqueline 01-11-2003 12:06 PM

From The Mercury.........

Prince breathes regal heir into dragon titles

HAD it not been for the two bodyguards nearby, Denmark&#39;s Crown Prince would have gone unnoticed as he unpacked his yacht in Hobart yesterday.

A Danish Olympic yachtsman, Prince Frederik arrived to compete in the Australian dragon class titles, which start tomorrow.

The national titles will be followed by the world championship next week, which has attracted 24 crews from around the world.

Instead of standing back and watching his crewmen do the work, the 34-year-old heir to the Danish throne pitched in like any sailor would to assemble the yacht.

"We are here for two weeks, it&#39;s going to be wonderful, we&#39;ll have a good time here," Prince Frederik said.

Nanoq _ which means "polar bear" in Inuit _ arrived on Tuesday in a large shipping container.

The Prince and his teammates put Nanoq _ an immaculate craft, complete with golden stripes and mahogany cabin _ into competition mode for today&#39;s invitation race on the Derwent.

"We&#39;ve come all the way Down Under and so we may as well work our way up in terms of our performance," he said.

Europe is the powerbase for dragon class yachting and Prince Frederik hopes to unleash its might during the world championships.

"Germany has got 1000 boats in its dragon fleet, the Dutch have got a hell of a lot, and so have the Danes as well," he said.

"It&#39;s quite hard to become national champion in Denmark. When the professional sailors relax they sail dra-gons, so all the amateurs get a hard time. But we get good training against them."

Prince Frederik&#39;s crew is made up of Denmark&#39;s Olympic sailing coach, Theis Palm, and Kaspar Harsberg.

As part of one of Europe&#39;s leading crews, the Prince has high hopes.

"We have good expectations," he said.

"Very few European boats have come here, so it means our chances are good.

"Unfortunately, we don&#39;t know much about the Australians or the Kiwis."


Jacqueline 01-11-2003 12:08 PM

Prince of waves


THE playboy Prince of Denmark slipped into the state yesterday _ but his Tasmanian girlfriend was nowhere to be seen.

Prince Frederik is in town for the world dragon class sailing championships on the Derwent.

His girlfriend, former Taroona High School girl Mary Donaldson, was staying back in chilly Denmark, he said.

But the 34-year-old prince _ on his first visit to Tasmania _ said Mary wished she was in Hobart.

"It&#39;s hard for her to think I&#39;m here in her own place," he said.


Jacqueline 01-11-2003 12:09 PM

Danes up close to their prince

WHILE Tasmanians were oblivious to the fact there was a prince in town, to a visiting family it was a dream come true.

Ove and Inge Sorensen and their daughter Helle rushed down to the Royal Hobart Yacht Club yesterday morning after reading in The Mercury that the Crown Prince of Denmark was in town.

The Danish trio approached Prince Frederik for a photograph.

The Prince is in Hobart for the World Dragon Class Sailing Championships on the River Derwent.

Ove said an outing like this for the Prince would normally draw a huge crowd of people but he and his family had the Prince to themselves.

Helle, 21, said her four sisters would be extremely jealous.

"They are in the snow and I am sitting in the sun right next to Prince Frederik," she said.

Helle, who is studying at Monash University in Melbourne, is taking her parents on a trip around Australia.

The Tasmanian leg of the journey was very timely.

Ove said the Prince was highly respected in Denmark.

"He has a good reputation, is a good representative," he said.

"People like him but not like a big screaming thing, he&#39;s too down-to-earth for that."

Helle said people also had a great deal of respect for former Hobart schoolgirl Mary Donaldson, who is tipped to marry the Prince.

"People would like to be in Mary&#39;s position definitely but they like her and are very happy about her," she said.

"She has a very good smile, seems very modest, but then we haven&#39;t heard that much, except gossip."

Helle said Australian people didn&#39;t know nearly as much about Mary as the Danes did.


Jacqueline 01-19-2003 06:36 PM

Here is another article. :)

Mary&#39;s peck from her prince

IT was just a small awkward peck, hardly passionate, barely there.

But it was significant all the same, being the first time Prince Frederik has kissed his Tasmanian girlfriend, Mary Donaldson, in public.

The Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania was buzzing early yesterday as word spread among the mostly Danish press that Mary was coming to visit.

Tired of waiting, one cameraman had approached the prince, who told the media his 30-year-old girlfriend would be fronting at noon.

A dozen photographers and cameramen and another 10 or so reporters stood anxiously on the grass in front of the prince&#39;s boat from about 11.15am, many of them saying their hearts were beating fast with excitement.

Journalists got on their mobile phones to Denmark -- where it was about 1am -- to relay the news. Photographers checked and rechecked their cameras and found positions.

Prince Frederik&#39;s body guards approached the press to request the famous couple be given space when Mary arrived.

The prince himself stood grinning on the dock in front of his boat, hands clasped in front, like a groom waiting for his bride to begin her walk down the aisle.

His amused crew waited in the boat behind him, one having just shown his blonde wife a passionate display of affection that the press hoped Frederik and Mary would emulate.

Word spread of the future princess&#39;s arrival before she even appeared and cameramen ran up to tape her from the first moment.

Confident but charmingly coy, neither loving nor hating the limelight, Mary made her way through the gathering to Prince Frederik.

He gave her an apologetic smile as his newly famous girlfriend, who has sacrificed her privacy to be with him, approached.

Dressed casually in blue jeans and beige summer top, she looked lovelier in person than in the many photos taken of her.

Photographers went about capturing the moment as journalists watched, smiling, satisfied they could finally give their editors back home some good news -- the front-page picture they had been waiting for.

The couple stood for several minutes, trying to look natural but not knowing what to do with themselves.

Eventually, Frederik gave her a small kiss and she began walking away.

The prince, who has been swamped with press for the past 11 days in Hobart, was left standing alone as the media throng ran the length of the dock alongside Mary.

They fired questions at her, despite having been instructed not to, to which she gave one-word replies, some in Danish.

Accompanied by her sister Jane Stephens and a blonde woman yesterday, Mary was ushered on to a waiting boat to go out to sea and watch Frederik compete in the world dragon class sailing championships.

Mary has been seeing 34-year-old Frederik, the Crown Prince of Denmark, for 2-1/2 years.

She grew up in Taroona, attending the local high school as well as Hobart College and the University of Tasmania.

She moved to Sydney to become a real estate agent but has since followed her prince to live in Copenhagen.

Frederik has been in Tasmania for more than a week and the pair will probably be here until the championships end on January 28.


alara 01-20-2003 05:51 PM

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Mary Anne 01-20-2003 07:57 PM

It is about time they kiss in public. I think they palnned this so as to quit any rumors that they wern't serious. And get her into the public's good eye. The way the reporter said she looked more lovely then photographs of her. I am glad everything is working out for them. I hope they stay happy.

Oh and who is the insert picture of? The balck and whit picture of the couple kissing?

Anybody else notice Mary's freaky long arm in the top picture. Looks like one of the apes that drag their arms behind them. I know it is probally someone standing behind her or a camera trick, but I think it looks funny anyways.

samitude 01-20-2003 08:42 PM

The couple kissing in the inserted brown and white photo are Crown Prince Frederik&#39;s grandparents, HM King Frederik IX of Denmark and HM Queen Ingrid of Denmark, nee of Sweden. That certainly looks like some kiss&#33; :)

Mary Anne 01-21-2003 01:03 AM

i love those kind of kisses. I plan on getting one in a few hours. Those, I don&#39;t want to let you go kisses. Now you can be sure that if Fred and Mary had kissed like that, Ohhhh the talk that would be going on. oh boy.

Jacqueline 01-21-2003 02:04 AM


Originally posted by Mary Anne@Jan 21st, 2003 - 12:55 am
It is about time they kiss in public. I think they palnned this so as to quit any rumors that they wern&#39;t serious. And get her into the public&#39;s good eye. The way the reporter said she looked more lovely then photographs of her. I am glad everything is working out for them. I hope they stay happy.
Hi Mary Anne and Sylvia&#33;

I think the kiss could have been staged as well, but they do look good together in the photo and they seem to be very happy, almost in a sickening sort of way. :D :D ....Just kidding&#33; ;)

Of course, they&#39;re happy-neither one of them has to go to work for a while&#33; :D :P

Mary Anne 01-21-2003 07:53 PM

They do look very happy. I hope he asks her soon. Theya ren&#39;t getting any younger. And I think she has done a lot to make herself over. She is learning his langueage, moved closer, and the only thing she needs to work on is hiding those pesky bras when she goes out. She seems like a nice person though.

Julia 01-24-2003 02:28 PM

Royal wedding? Nope, "it was just a kiss on the cheek&#39;

Associated Press
Posted January 24 2003, 10:17 AM EST

COPENHAGEN, Denmark -- Denmark is abuzz with speculation of a royal wedding after the heir to the throne of Europe&#39;s oldest ruling monarchy was photographed giving his girlfriend a first public peck on the cheek.

But a palace spokesman, Soeren Haslund-Christensen, told The Associated Press on Wednesday: ``There is nothing in that kiss. It was just a kiss on the cheek.&#39;&#39;

Crown Prince Frederik, 34, was snapped this weekend kissing his Australian girlfriend, Mary Donaldson, as they met in her hometown of Hobart, Tasmania.

Photos published in Monday&#39;s edition of the tabloid B.T. showed the couple giving each other a peck on the corner of the mouth, followed by a shot of Frederik turning around and laughing at the photographers.

Newspapers and celebrity magazines put the kiss on their front pages, and Denmark&#39;s biggest daily, Jyllands-Posten, concluded in an editorial: ``It can&#39;t almost get any closer: Denmark&#39;s next queen is called Mary.&#39;&#39;

Frederik and Donaldson, 30, met during the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia.

She moved to Denmark in early 2002 to work with a Danish subsidiary of Microsoft Corp. and enrolled in intensive Danish language classes.

The couple have appeared together often at private events. They cannot appear at public events together unless they&#39;re engaged or married.

Last year, the palace confirmed for the first time that Frederik had a girlfriend. Earlier, the royal household refused to comment on what it called private matters.
Copyright © 2003, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Julia 01-24-2003 02:30 PM

A royal question: Is a kiss just a kiss?

AP - Denmark is abuzz again with rumours of a royal wedding after its Crown Prince Frederik was pictured giving his Australian girlfriend her first public peck on the cheek.

When Crown Prince Frederik was snapped kissing girlfriend Mary Donaldson, it set off a media frenzy and had royal watchers wondering if the 34-year-old future king was readying the country for impending matrimony.

Newspapers and celebrity magazines put the kiss on their front pages and penned columns opining about the nature of Frederik&#39;s supposed bride-to-be.

Denmark&#39;s biggest daily, Jyllands-Posten, concluded in an editorial this week: "It can&#39;t almost get any closer: Denmark&#39;s next queen is called Mary."

Some claim that Frederik&#39;s public peck for Donaldson was intentional - a way to tell the Scandinavian country of 5.3 million that she might be the next queen.

But a palace spokesman, Soeren Haslund-Christensen, denied such reports and rumours on Thursday.

"There is nothing in that kiss. It was just a kiss on the cheek," Haslund-Christensen told The Associated Press. "There is nothing new about this except for what the media (make up)."

Photos published in Monday&#39;s edition of the tabloid BT showed the couple giving each other a peck on the corner of the mouth, followed by a shot of Frederik turning around and laughing at the photographers.

"I will consider it an unofficial engagement announcement," said Henning Dehn-Nielsen, an historian and author of several books on the royal family, whose history can be traced back to 958.

Last year, the palace confirmed for the first time that Frederik had a girlfriend.

Earlier, the royal household refused to comment on what it called private matters.

Frederik and Donaldson, of Sydney, met during the 2000 Olympics, but the romance was kept quiet until a Danish magazine had the scoop in 2001.

The 30-year-old brunette moved to Denmark early last year to work with a Danish subsidiary of Microsoft Corp, and enrolled in intensive Danish language classes.

The couple have appeared together often at private events.

They cannot appear at public events together unless they&#39;re engaged or married.

In Australia, Frederik fuelled speculation by describing her as "my girlfriend" to a group of Danish reporters who had travelled to Hobart.

And over Christmas, Donaldson reportedly spent the holidays with the royal family. Before that, early last month, her father and stepmother visited the royal palace.

If Donaldson, dubbed "the perfect princess", weds the handsome and popular prince, she would become the first Australian to stand in line to become queen.

Any engagement must by formally approved by the government.

Frederik, a member of an elite Danish naval unit and an Arctic adventurer, was voted Dane of the year for the fifth time by the Berlingske Tidende newspaper&#39;s readers last month.

If there is a royal wedding, Donaldson won&#39;t be the first foreigner in Denmark&#39;s royal family.

Frederik&#39;s father, Prince Henrik, was born a Frenchman and his younger brother, Prince Joachim, married a British commoner in 1995 who became Princess Alexandra. And his grandmother, Queen Ingrid, was Swedish.

Julia 01-24-2003 02:33 PM

Photo of crown prince kissing girlfriend fuels Danish frenzy


DENMARK is abuzz with new rumours of a Royal wedding after the heir to the throne of Europe’s oldest ruling monarchy was pictured giving his girlfriend a public peck on the cheek.

When Crown Prince Frederik was photographed this weekend kissing his Australian girlfriend, Mary Donaldson, it set off a Danish media frenzy. Royal watchers speculated that the coy kiss by Frederik, 34, as the couple met in her home town of Hobart, Tasmania, was a way of introducing his country to a future queen.

Denmark’s biggest daily, Jyllands-Posten, concluded in an editorial this week: "It almost can’t get any closer: Denmark’s next queen is called Mary."

But a palace spokesman, Soeren Haslund-Christensen, insisted: "It was just a kiss on the cheek. There is nothing new about this."

Photos published in the tabloid BT showed the couple giving each other a peck on the corner of the mouth, after which Frederik turned and laughed at the photographers.

"I will consider it an unofficial engagement announcement," said Henning Dehn-Nielsen, an historian and author of several books on the Danish Royal Family, whose history can be traced back to 958.

Prince Frederik and Ms Donaldson met during the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, but the romance was kept quiet until a Danish magazine revealed it in 2001.

Ms Donaldson, 30, moved to Denmark in early 2002 to work with a Danish subsidiary of Microsoft and enrolled in intensive Danish language classes.

Jacqueline 01-27-2003 12:50 PM

Tassie a breath of fresh heir for prince

HE has spent almost three weeks in the place of his girlfriend&#39;s upbringing and Denmark&#39;s Crown Prince Frederik has enjoyed every second of it.

Not only has his Tasmanian girlfriend Mary Donaldson been with him for much of the trip, he has also participated in two of the things he loves most -- sailing and wine tours.

Prince Frederik, 34, spoke with The Mercury yesterday after his final event in the world Dragon class sailing championship at the Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania.

Mary had just been to see him by his boat Nanoq after she spent the day on the Derwent on the motor launch River Lodge, owned by the club&#39;s commodore, Robert Badenach.

Dressed in a striped top, sequined pants and a cap, the "princess-in-waiting" looked poised but restless as the Danish press gathered around her yet again.

She spoke with the wives of crew members as she waited for the prince to finish hosing off Nanoq.

Prince Frederik and Mary did speak with each other, but those hoping to see a royal embrace were disappointed. Except for a brief rubbing of shoulders as Mary left, there was no contact between the couple.

After Mary left, the prince said he realised his girlfriend of 2-1/2 years had grown up in a great environment.

"Certainly a good upbringing here," he said.

"Every Tasmanian I have met is nice.

"The mentality, the population, is all what I expected, but what exceeded my expectations was the food, the wine, the whole atmosphere."

Prince Frederik said he had been to Seven Mile Beach, to the top of Mt Wellington and to several wineries.

"I think your pinot noirs are special -- your wines and I had a good time together," he said with a wink.

"I have had a tremendous stay. The fact I have had a purpose for being here and the duration of the stay has let me get into a rhythm and I have appreciated that. You normally wouldn&#39;t spend this much time in one place."

Prince Frederik and his crew finished sixth overall at the championship, after coming in ninth yesterday.

"I am extremely happy with it," he said.

"I learned even more about sailing and boat handling because we had 14 or 15 races in only 20 days and you never really get that in Europe."

Prince Frederik said Tasmania had been a great place for the event.

"There are some very good conditions, some very tricky conditions," he said.


Julia 01-27-2003 01:00 PM

HI Jacqueline&#33; Thanks for the article&#33; Sequined pants??&#33; Why on earth was she wearing sequined pants in the daytime( I am assuming that it was day)? :blink:

At least Fred enjoyed Tasmania and had positive things to say. :)

Jacqueline 01-27-2003 03:19 PM

Hi Julia! Thanks for the article.

I do believe that sometimes a kiss is just a kiss. I can't say that we should all start thinking about fabrics for Mary's gown etc., but I do think that Fred's finally showing affection publicly for Mary certainly can't hurt her chances of becoming CP and the chances that an engagement could eventually be announced.

But, sometimes I also wonder if the kiss may have been intentional? :unsure: :blink:

Hi Julia! I would certainly like to see the sequined pants. It's a bit hard to believe. :blink: :D Mary had been doing so well where her attire has been concerned in Tasmania-nothing too flashy and tacky.

I wonder what would have brought on the sequined pants?

Jacqueline 02-03-2003 02:05 AM

Danes can&#39;t get enough of Tassie


THE Danish media may have spent the past few weeks trailing Prince Frederik and Mary Donaldson in Hobart but they were stalking another Tasmanian at the weekend -- Premier, Jim Bacon.

As the Crown Prince of Denmark and his Tasmanian girlfriend left Hobart on Saturday, Mr Bacon was being besieged by the Danish media in Copenhagen.

On a promotional mission to Europe and the United States, he said the Danish media were hungry for information about Tasmania.

They had shown particular interest in a remark by the Crown Prince, who had been in Hobart to compete in the world Dragon class sailing championships and was shown the sights by Ms Donaldson.

"Prince Frederik commented that every Tasmanian he had met was nice and I told them that was no surprise at all," Mr Bacon said.

"I was certainly expecting the Tasmanian connection to be of some interest, but the level of curiosity, and the level of knowledge they already have about us, was well beyond my expectations."

Mr Bacon said the media in London and Copenhagen had a very positive view of Tasmania.

"I used the opportunity to paint the picture of Tasmania in the midst of very exciting times, talking of our natural and historic heritage and the economic development which is now taking place," he said.

"The royal news phenomenon appears to be every bit as big and important here [in Denmark] as we are used to and will do our tourism promotion efforts no harm at all.

"I was also able to remind them that a Danish character called Jorgen Jorgensen was transported to Van Diemens Land as a convict in 1826 and strides across the pages of our early history in large letters."

Mr Bacon leaves for Germany today.

Prince Frederik has gone to India on official business, while Ms Donaldson is believed to be headed for Denmark.

Article From: The Mercury

Jacqueline 02-03-2003 02:07 AM

Human Interest
Media frenzy greets Bacon in Denmark
Monday, 3 February 2003

Premier Jim Bacon says he is at the centre of a media frenzy in Denmark after the visit to Tasmania by Crown Prince Frederik.

In Copenhagen as part of a three-week visit to Europe and the US, Mr Bacon said he had been besieged by the media.

"(The media) are hungry for information, wanting to know all we can tell them about the place where Crown Prince Frederik&#39;s Australian girlfriend comes from," he said.

The media had showed particular interest in a remark made by the Crown Prince in Hobart that every Tasmanian he had met was nice.

"I was certainly expecting the Tasmanian connection to be of some interest, but the level of curiosity - and the level of knowledge they already have about us - was well beyond my expectations," Mr Bacon said.

The London and Danish media seemed to have a positive picture of Tasmania. "The royal news phenomenon ... will do our tourism promotion efforts no harm at all," he said.

Mr Bacon spoke to the media about the Danish convict Jorgen Jorgensen, who was transported to Van Diemen&#39;s Land in 1826.

The Premier and his entourage, which includes his wife, Honey Bacon, and senior advisers, will travel to Germany today before heading to Geneva, where he will address the global summit on peace through tourism.

Prince Frederik and girlfriend Mary Donaldson flew from Hobart on Saturday after spending two weeks in the State. They are believed to have stayed at Freycinet Lodge last week.

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Josefine 02-03-2003 02:19 PM

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Julia 02-03-2003 02:49 PM

Thank you, Josefine, for all of the lovely pics&#33;

Is Fred wearing velvet trousers? :huh:

Mary Anne 02-04-2003 03:49 AM

Sure looks like velvet. remember all the other horriable pants he has worn before?

Josefine 02-04-2003 02:12 PM

NEW DELHI, India - Most first-time visitors to India make a point of seeing its main tourist attraction, the Taj Mahal — a world-famous monument to love.

But Denmark&#39;s Crown Prince Frederik left his Australian girlfriend, Mary Donaldson, behind during his six-day India tour and was too busy promoting Danish business to visit the Taj.

He drove through dusty villages on Monday to reach the 6-year-old Danisco factory outside the Indian capital to officiate at a groundbreaking ceremony for a new research and development laboratory. Danisco makes food flavorings and other ingredients.

Frederik, 34, said India is behind China in getting foreign direct investment from his country, and blamed the slow-moving Indian bureaucracy.

The prince wore a tie printed with white elephants, considered symbols of luck in India.

"It&#39;s not a coincidence that I&#39;m wearing it in India," said the prince. "In my country, the symbol of a white elephant is very important and we even have a much revered 400-year-old Order of the White Elephant."

Frederik planned to do more Danish business promotion in India&#39;s financial capital, Bombay, then travel to the desert state of Rajasthan for relaxation.

"Next time I come here, I would like to go down to South India, trek in the lower Himalayas and see the Taj," he said.

But he didn&#39;t say whether he&#39;d see the monument to romance with someone he loves — offering Danes no clue whether there will soon be a royal wedding.

Julia 02-05-2003 03:43 PM

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Mary at one of the 3 weddings they attended this past summer/autumn....

Very cute....Fred and Nikolai....

Fred in his sailing togs... :D

Jacqueline 02-05-2003 04:24 PM

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Hi Julia&#33; Thanks for the photos. I saw this photo on Yahoo News earlier today, so I thought that I would post it with the others. :)

Julia 02-05-2003 06:13 PM

Hi Jacqueline&#33;

Thanks for the photo&#33; I have to say again; why did she wear that dress???&#33;

Jacqueline 02-05-2003 10:54 PM

Danish crown prince on a ribbon-cutting spree

Shobita Dhar
New Delhi, February 3: HE’s no Hamlet. And though this Prince of Denmark wouldn’t give the more famous British royals a run for their money, he still has a lot in common with them: he’s charming, articulate, aloof and in the news every time he gets a new girlfriend.

But Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark is in India for a far less glamourous reason. He is on a six-day visit (his first ever to this country) to inaugurate a few Danish factories here.

On Monday, Frederick drove down to Sohna through typical Haryana ruralscape, to lay the foundation stone of an Applications Laboratory at the Danisco factory there.

Danisco is a Danish edible flavours major in the world, and the factory in Sohna was established in 1998. In addition to the lab, Danisco is also going to double the size of the existing factory, at an adjacent site. On his visit, the Prince is being accompanied by Denmark Deputy Prime Minister Bendt Bendsten.

Prince Frederick arrived at the function wearing a tie with motifs of white elephants. ‘‘It’s not a coincidence that I’m wearing this in India,’’ he said. ‘‘This is an old tie. In my country, the symbol of a white elephant is very important and we even have a much revered 400-year-old Order of White Elephant,’’ he says.

Apart from Delhi, he will be visiting Mumbai and Rajasthan as well. While the Mumbai visit is only for official purposes, ‘‘Rajasthan is more for relaxation.’’ On a serious note, the royal adds that he would like to gather his thoughts here and put them down on paper.

Due to time constraints, Frederick is skipping what’s usually every tourist’s must-see spot: the Taj Mahal. ‘‘Next time I come here, I would like to go down to South India, trek in the lower Himalayas and see da Taaj as well,’’ he says, living up to his reputation for being adventurous.

Clearly, there’s more to this prince than his love life. Frederick has devoted a few years to military service in his country and even served as a diplomat. He was the first member of the Danish royal family to get an academic degree.

The 35-year-old is currently dating an Australian real-estate agent whom he met during the Sydney Olympics. They are reportedly engaged. Talking about India, the Prince says: ‘‘I was told that there’ll be a lot of people here and I find that’s true. Plus, I also see a lot of automobiles.’’

Real estate agents apart, Frederick also has a weakness for Indian curry. ‘‘It’s very popular with Danes people — and so is Indian spirituality,’’ says Prince Frederick.

Article From: Delhi Newsline

Jacqueline 02-06-2003 04:08 PM

For Denmark&#39;s crown prince, the hard music is all right
Thu Feb 6, 8:02 AM ET

COPENHAGEN, Denmark - As a child, Crown Prince Frederik considered piano lessons a "duty and torture." As an adult, the heir to Denmark&#39;s throne wouldn&#39;t mind being on stage "strumming the strings."

In an interview published Thursday by the Danish youth magazine Gaffa, the 34-year-old future king recalled his younger days when the Danish summer was warm, the beer was cold and the tunes were on fire.

"We were this group of friends who had this wild summer where there was a great groove," he told the magazine about going to concerts and being with university classmates.

"I believe there is probably a small rock &#39;n&#39; roller in me who would like to stand on a stage, strumming the strings, getting a kick out of standing up there," Frederik told the free monthly.

After the concerts, "one had to have an even better party with a couple beers and some stronger booze."

As a child, he and his younger brother, Prince Joachim, listened to classic music and had private piano lessons at the palace.

The lessons "were duty and torture," said Frederik, who currently is touring India to promote Danish business.

But an appreciation for music stuck, including the decidedly more up-tempo stylings of rock, which "is of course noisy, but it&#39;s true and that appeals to me."


Article From: Yahoo News

Completey Off Topic: When I found this article there was another beneath it stating that Denmark was willing to offer troops and a submarine in a possible U.S.-led attack on Iraq if it is backed by a UN resolution.....just thought that it was interesting and that I would mention it.

Jacqueline 02-06-2003 04:16 PM

Denmark offers cutting edge technologies

New Delhi, Feb 3. (PTI): Denmark today offered India cutting edge technologies and know-how in the area of alternative energies, healthcare and pharmaceuticals.

"Denmark can offer cutting edge technologies, know-how in the area of alternative energies and best of expertise in healthcare and pharmaceuticals," Crown Prince of Denmark Frederik said at the Indo-Danish Business Conference organised by CII here.

He said a growing number of Danish companies were setting up bases in India and there was huge potential for growth between the two countries.

Chairman, Confederation of Danish Industries, Johan Schroder said Danish exports to India amounted to 107 million euros while the total Danish imports from India stood at 211 million euros.

Article From: The Hindu

Jacqueline 02-06-2003 04:18 PM

Danish Prince Opens Tellabs Lab


NEW DELHI, India -- Tellabs&#39; Indian joint-venture partner, Fibcom India Limited, today inaugurated a new development centre for managed transport solutions and optical transport systems in New Delhi, India. The new development centre will help Tellabs enhance its SDH (synchronous digital hierarchy) and DWDM (dense wavelength division multiplexing) systems that help carriers cost-effectively collect and consolidate voice and data traffic in metro and regional areas throughout Europe, Middle East and Africa, Asia-Pacific and Latin America.

"Expanding development capabilities will speed time-to-market for next-generation SDH solutions," said Peter Viereck, vice president and general manager of Tellabs Denmark. "We are committed to growing our international business by meeting the evolving needs of our customers."

Located in the heart of New Delhi&#39;s technology community, Fibcom will work hand-in-hand with Tellabs&#39; development centre in Denmark.

The development centre was inaugurated today by His Royal Highness Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark at a ceremony attended by Indian and Danish officials.

Tellabs Inc.

Article From: Light Reading

Jacqueline 02-06-2003 04:22 PM

Danisco India To Set Up Research Lab In Haryana

Our Corporate Bureau

New Delhi, February 4: Danisco India, a wholly-subsidiary of &#036;3.5 billion international flavours and edible ingredients major Danisco, is building a world class applications laboratory for research and development at its existing manufacturing facility in Sohna, Haryana. The company has also decided to double the size of its factory after more than two years of operations in India during which it has grown at over 50 per cent on a year-on-year basis.

Denmark’s Crown Prince Frederik and deputy prime minister Bendt Bendtsen laid the foundation stone for both the facilities during a private visit to India. Danisco India’s managing director Neil Prasad said the company today has over 250 customers including most of the international majors present in the region.

Article From: The Financial Express

Jacqueline 02-07-2003 09:18 PM

Danish prince declares his love
From correspondents in Denmark
February 08, 2003

DANISH Crown Prince Fredrik has confirmed what most in this Scandinavian nation of 5.3 million thought to be true: He&#39;s in love with his Australian girlfriend.

In an interview with Denmark&#39;s TV2 that will air on Sunday, Fredrik, 34, confirmed his romance with Mary Donaldson, but didn&#39;t say if an engagement is planned.

Frederik has dated Donaldson, 31, since mid-2000. Last month the first photos of them kissing in public sparked national speculation of a royal wedding.

When asked if his relationship with Donaldson was serious, he smiled and said: "I certainly would say so."

The interview was taped yesterday in Bombay, where the heir to the throne of Europe&#39;s oldest ruling monarchy is promoting Danish business. He is due back in Denmark on Monday.

Article From: New Interactive, Australia

Jacqueline 02-08-2003 12:47 PM

Something about Mary

By Rachel Browne
February 9 2003
The Sun-Herald

The heir to the throne of Denmark, Crown Prince Frederik, has broken his silence about his relationship with Australian real estate agent Mary Donaldson.

Prince Frederik told of his love for his Australian girlfriend in a television interview taped on Thursday.

In the interview with Denmark&#39;s TV2, which will air in Europe today, the 34-year-old prince confirmed his romance with Ms Donaldson, 31, but would not say whether an engagement was planned.

The relationship, which sparked when the couple met in Sydney during the 2000 Olympics, has kept Denmark enthralled with growing speculation that they will wed.

When asked if his relationship with Ms Donaldson was serious, the prince smiled and said: "I would certainly sayso."

Prince Frederik has been nicknamed "the playboy prince" in Denmark for his romances with models and pop stars.

The interview was taped on Thursday in Mumbai, where the heir to the throne of Europe&#39;s oldest ruling monarchy is promoting Danish business.

He left for Mumbai after spending two weeks with Ms Donaldson in Tasmania, where she was born and raised before moving to Sydney where she worked as an agent for Belle Property.

Prince Frederik was in Tasmania to compete in the international sailing competition, the Dragon World Championships, while Ms Donaldson caught up with her Hobart-based sisters Patricia Woods, a nurse, and Jane Stephens, who works at a West Hobart pharmacy. Her father, former University of Tasmania professor John Donaldson, is based in Oxford in Britain, where he lives with his second wife, crime novelist Susan Moody.

Ms Donaldson and Prince Frederik had locals abuzz when they visited some of Hobart&#39;s most fashionable night spots and galleries in Salamanca.

The couple also went to Coles Bay to stay at the exclusive Freycinet Lodge during their final days in the island state.

The Tasmanian trip marks the second time they have flown out to Australia in recent months, with the couple visiting Sydney last October to attend the wedding of Ms Donaldson&#39;s friends Kylie Matthews and Anthony Jones at St Mark&#39;s Church, Darling Point.

Article From: Sydney Morning Herald

cathy g 02-08-2003 03:07 PM

I think that it is so sweet that the finally declared his love although truth be told I didn&#39;t really like her in the beginning.

I wonder who is going to be the best man.

Julia 02-08-2003 03:21 PM

I do sense an engagement announcement soon....

I think Mary seems like a cute person, but I still cannot see her as the Crown Princess of Denmark and it&#39;s nothing against her. Maybe once the royal court gets a hold of her for another makeover (more polished, if that makes sense) she will seem more like a princess. Then again, I have never heard her speak and she is most likely very intelligent and sensible. ;)

samitude 02-08-2003 04:03 PM

I appreciate your words about Mary most likely being intelligent and sensible. I have noticed that many people on these royal message boards tear Mary to shreads and don&#39;t know anything about her. Even if she did volunteer in the red cross or a soup kitchen people would still find something to criticize her for. I feel bad for her.

I know you can&#39;t date a prince without cameras and press and I think she&#39;s doing a very admirable job handling them. I don&#39;t think the way she dresses is necessarily my style ,but I can&#39;t say anything about her work habits or any of this because I do not know at all&#33;. I haven&#39;t talked to her employers, her friends or her family so I don&#39;t know.

Frederik goes to Australia. It&#39;s only natural that his girlfriend would want to be with him. What&#39;s wrong with her going to Australia? After all her family lives there. If you had the opportunity to go with your friend or boyfriend on a trip wouldn&#39;t you go?

kelly9480 02-08-2003 04:47 PM

Almost all of her time spent with her family was spent following him around. She didn&#39;t have "girl time" with her sisters. That&#39;s kind of odd. She hasn&#39;t seen much of them for the past year. My sisters live several states away from me and when we see each other (every 3 months we meet up in one of our states), we ditch everything and hang out together. No husbands, no boyfriends, no children and no pets allowed. My brothers live several states away, too (we&#39;re spread out all over the US), and when we see each other, we have time to ourselves. We go to a sporting event or something. But it&#39;s just us -- no one else comes along. She didn&#39;t do that and to me, as someone who does live several states away from her siblings, it&#39;s odd that she wouldn&#39;t focus exclusively on them for some point.

And let&#39;s face it: she is not going to work. Even if you do have one of those "work from home" jobs, you have to go into the office every once in a while. And we all know she&#39;s being followed everytime she leaves the house.

Julia 02-08-2003 08:07 PM

Hi Sylvia,

I do think that a lot of people have "picked" on Mary on many boards. I think that Mary has the following quality: either you like her, or you don&#39;t. Does that make sense? I have "trashed" Mary in the past, too. I don&#39;t particularily care for her sense of style (but that&#39;s what makes us each unique) and I have thought that she was a silly in front of the camera, but we each react differently to pressure (and yes, it is major pressure to have your image show up in tabloids, mags, newspapers, etc...). I cannot think, however, that Frederik would choose an unintelligent and vain woman to be his wife and the future queen of his country. His mother is like a force of nature. She is an incredible person, so there must be something special about Mary that we cannot see. Perhaps, after they announce their engagement (it hasn&#39;t happened yet, but the recent statement from Frederik indicates that there soon will be an announcement) and interviews are done with Mary, etc...we will all be better able to judge her character.
Sure, she knew when she met Frederik and something "clicked" between the two of them that she had a chance of becoming the future crown princess of Denmark. But, maybe she is qualified.
Of course this is just my opinion. ;)

Jacqueline 02-09-2003 12:21 PM

Hi everyone&#33;

I have never really been very fond Mary or thought that she was CP/Queen material. I have never hidden how I felt about that. ;) However, I certainly cannot dissuade Fred from marrying her. She may be intelligent and a good conversationalist, but I have never liked the way in which she carries herself or the way in which she first presented herself to the people of Denmark. That may make me a bit of an old-fashioned snob, but that&#39;s how I feel about the situation.

I have always found Mary to be a bit too eager and far too dependent IMO. Her sense of style is really the least of my issues with her at this point. Many signs seem to point to an engagement annoucement and wedding. I think that there is a significantly large chance that Fred and Mary will be married in the near future, but that will not change the way in which I view her. Perhaps after years in the spotlight as more than just a girlfriend (after she becomes CP) and has to actually do the work, I may see her in a different light. However, I have to at least see her try first.

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