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An Ard Ri 05-10-2021 04:46 AM

The Confirmation of HRH The Princess of Asturias :May 28th ,2021
 
The Confirmation of HRH The Princess of Asturias :May 28th ,2021


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AnaC 05-10-2021 06:30 AM

The article says that in their school, students celebrate their Confirmation in 1st of baccalaureate (next school year for Leonor) when the princess will be studying abroad. They speculate that she could celebrate her Confirmation on her own this year or return to Spain next year to celebrate with her school.

Mbruno 05-10-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blog Real (Post 2398020)
Princess of Asturias is not yet known when her confirmation will be held, although Vanitatis can assure you that she will receive the sacrament, as her father has already done.
As with his first communion, his parents want Leonor to celebrate his confirmation with the rest of his schoolmates, the Santa Maria de los Rosales. However, there is a problem. Sources close to the school tell Vanitatis that this sacrament is received by first-grade students.
https://www.vanitatis.elconfidencial...mento_3069276/


I am not familiar with the Spanish school system, but would "primero de bachillerato" be equivalent to 11th grade (or junior year) in North America?

AnaC 05-10-2021 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2398035)
I am not familiar with the Spanish school system, but would "primero de bachillerato" be equivalent to 10th grade (or sophomore year) in North America?

Primero de bachiller is equivalent to 11th grade (or Junior year).Right now Princess Leonor is in her fourth year of ESO (10th grade in US)

janelarn 05-12-2021 05:39 PM

It depends on whether you have made the confirmation before First Communion, although it is a private matter and they will not tell us anything. Anyway, it would be an intimate act that you can perform at any time in the Zarzuela chapel. There are no big celebrations in Spain for a Confirmation.
All my younger relatives have received their confirmation before First Communion, but it seems that it depends on the dioceses of each Spanish city.
Anyway, the confirmation is not an act that is celebrated (there are no parties or anything like that) in any way for a normal Catholic in Spain

Blog Real 05-17-2021 05:27 PM

On May 28, the Princess of Asturias will celebrate her confirmation along with other classmates in the parish of Nuestra Seņora de Aravaca.
https://www.vanitatis.elconfidencial...lumno_3084735/

Mbruno 05-17-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by janelarn (Post 2398528)
It depends on whether you have made the confirmation before First Communion, although it is a private matter and they will not tell us anything. Anyway, it would be an intimate act that you can perform at any time in the Zarzuela chapel. There are no big celebrations in Spain for a Confirmation.
All my younger relatives have received their confirmation before First Communion, but it seems that it depends on the dioceses of each Spanish city.


That is weird. I received First Communion when I was 9, but I was confirmed only when I was 15. In both cases, I did it with my classmates so they were all more or less the same age . I actually never met anyone who was confirmed before First Communion, except a friend of mine from a Lebanese family whose church followed the Maronite rite.

Duke of Marmalade 05-18-2021 12:55 AM

Same here, communion with 9 and I think confirmation with 14. But confirmation was very low key, no celebrations with relatives, so nothing compared to the communion event.
For protestants it is different (see Christian of Denmark), their big festivity is the confirmation.

Stefan 05-18-2021 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 2399866)
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For protestants it is different (see Christian of Denmark), their big festivity is the confirmation.


for protestant there only is confirmation.

Biri 05-18-2021 03:22 AM

Protestants receive first Comunion during confirmation, after declaring to remain faithful disciples of Christ by their own free will (during Christening it was their parents' decision)

An Ard Ri 05-18-2021 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blog Real (Post 2399810)
On May 28, the Princess of Asturias will celebrate her confirmation along with other classmates in the parish of Nuestra Seņora de Aravaca.
https://www.vanitatis.elconfidencial...lumno_3084735/

Hopefully we'll get a few family photos from the ceremony.

janelarn 05-18-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2399825)
That is weird. I received First Communion when I was 9, but I was confirmed only when I was 15. In both cases, I did it with my classmates so they were all more or less the same age . I actually never met anyone who was confirmed before First Communion, except a friend of mine from a Lebanese family whose church followed the Maronite rite.

My eldest nephew is 17 years old and made his confirmation days before his First Communion, and my son this year the same.
When my nephew had his Confirmation before his First Communion, we were very surprised, but now it is a general rule in many Dioceses.
It depends on each diocese, but in general it does not matter because it is an intimate act that can be celebrated at any time and there are no special celebrations.
It's not even mandatory, at least not in my youth. I made my First Communion at the age of 8 with the school, and then I was not confirmed. It is true that it can be done in early adolescence, but some dioceses have returned to the primitive state of the order of the sacraments: baptism, confirmation and First Communion.
There are even groups of older people who, in their day, were not confirmed and want to do it older. In my family I have several cases of Confirmations after the age of 30, and we just went to dinner (an excuse hahahaha to go out).
If the diocese or the school of Eleanor has not adapted to this new norm, I hope that we do not have photos or the press overwhelm her, because it is a very different act from how it occurs in other religions; I hope that the press is not waiting at the doors of the church or anything like that, because they would force the family to pose, which would be controversial, or simply not pose as usual, and the media would also look for the problem . It is always "no win"

janelarn 05-18-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 2399900)
Hopefully we'll get a few family photos from the ceremony.


I hope not, because as I have explained, Confirmation for the Catholic Church is an intimate act with no special celebrations, no guests, or anything like that.
At least that is how it should be.
The media only want to "compare" with the Confirmations of Ingrid or Christian, when they know perfectly well that no one celebrates a Confirmation, at least in a very "festive" way.
Perhaps a little reminder for the girl who is Confirmed, which can be a small cross or just NOTHING. No great parties. It depends on the family, but it will always be celebrated, or has always been the case, within the closest family environment.
In fact, my acquaintances who did their Confirmation when we were teenagers, it was without any celebration at all.

An Ard Ri 05-18-2021 02:57 PM

I'm hope the Spanish Royal Family will at least publish a photo of the Leonor with her parents on the day and at least have a slice of cake to mark the occasion (in private ofcourse).

Stefan 05-18-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by janelarn (Post 2400029)
I hope not, because as I have explained, Confirmation for the Catholic Church is an intimate act with no special celebrations, no guests, or anything like that.
At least that is how it should be.
The media only want to "compare" with the Confirmations of Ingrid or Christian, when they know perfectly well that no one celebrates a Confirmation, at least in a very "festive" way.
Perhaps a little reminder for the girl who is Confirmed, which can be a small cross or just NOTHING. No great parties. It depends on the family, but it will always be celebrated, or has always been the case, within the closest family environment.
In fact, my acquaintances who did their Confirmation when we were teenagers, it was without any celebration at all.


But if it so intimate then why announce it at all. Better to keep it secret or to have the Confirmation at the Chapel of La Zarzuela then it would be really intimate.

lula 05-18-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 2400054)
But if it so intimate then why announce it at all. Better to keep it secret or to have the Confirmation at the Chapel of La Zarzuela then it would be really intimate.

There is no confirmation that this information is true. Vanitatis has copied the information from Jaime Peņafiel, and neither the Royal House nor any serious media or press agency has confirmed the information.

kathia_sophia 05-18-2021 05:22 PM

I think we never saw Felipe's Confirmation, did we? I remember seeing pictures of him and his sisters during their First Communion, but not during their Confirmations...

Blog Real 05-18-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kathia_sophia (Post 2400084)
I think we never saw Felipe's Confirmation, did we? I remember seeing pictures of him and his sisters during their First Communion, but not during their Confirmations...

Here is a photo of Felipe's confirmation.
https://www.abc.es/archivo/fotos/con...e-8215812.html

Denville 05-18-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by janelarn (Post 2400029)
I hope not, because as I have explained, Confirmation for the Catholic Church is an intimate act with no special celebrations, no guests, or anything like that.
At least that is how it should be.
The media only want to "compare" with the Confirmations of Ingrid or Christian, when they know perfectly well that no one celebrates a Confirmation, at least in a very "festive" way.
Perhaps a little reminder for the girl who is Confirmed, which can be a small cross or just NOTHING. No great parties. It depends on the family, but it will always be celebrated, or has always been the case, within the closest family environment.
In fact, my acquaintances who did their Confirmation when we were teenagers, it was without any celebration at all.

That's not the case, as far as I can recall, I was confirmed when I was round 11 or so, and it was quite a big thing. Lots of other children were confirmed at teh same time. Girls wore a special dress boys wore suits, and there were parties and presents.

Sunnystar 05-18-2021 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Biri (Post 2399888)
Protestants receive first Comunion during confirmation, after declaring to remain faithful disciples of Christ by their own free will (during Christening it was their parents' decision)

This isn't true of all Protestant denominations. My own church let anyone who wanted to partake in Communion do so and did not require you to stand up and profess to be a Christian before the whole congregation or transfer your church membership prior to taking Communion. Now, my mom did make a point of not letting us (my brothers and I) take Communion until after we were baptized - our denomination didn't practice infant baptism but instead only did it after you went through some classes with the minister - similar to Confirmation in other denominations, I suppose. But, just because our mom wouldn't let us take Communion until after we were baptized didn't mean that other parents did the same with their own kids. And no one ever asked me if I was baptized when I visited other churches as an adult and partook in Communion. :flowers:


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