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Curryong 05-05-2021 08:48 AM

Prince Charles wrote a children’s story for his youngest brother Edward, which was later published. Presumably he didn’t go to writing classes and he composed it all himself.

Erin9 05-05-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Curryong (Post 2396905)
Iím not denying he was told not to attend, but ex monarchs donít turn up to their successorís Coronations by custom either.



Usually, theyíre dead. Or about to be. The voluntary abdication trend is relatively new.

Fem 05-05-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by camelot23ca (Post 2396795)
Iíve gotten progressively more cynical about the interview in the weeks since it first aired. They did it to help build their brand for the American market. They wanted a few parts to really stick - the racism accusation, the alleged money woes with Charles as the villain and the idea of The Sussexes as being trapped and isolated in the middle of a mental health crisis. They kept those parts just vague enough to provoke as much discussion as possible.

Yes, I agree, but I think they also miscalculated a bit. The press then focused on the fractured relationship between Harry and his family and not all of the hardships (in the beautiful home offered to them and renovated to their liking, one of the most expensive wardrobes between european royals and all the privacy AND pomp and glory) Meghan has endured. That's why we were then treated to the awful articles how "any reconciliation has to include Meghan" and all of that jazz.
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Originally Posted by Royalist.in.NC (Post 2396811)
It blows my mind that someone who hasnít seen her own father in three years and who helped Harry throw his father under a bus has the gall to write about relationships between fathers and sons.

And then there's that. Couldn't say it myself better.

Erin9 05-05-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ACO (Post 2396908)
It is actually quite pathetic. I get people dislike Meghan but they really need to stop dragging innocent people because they want to attack her.

https://twitter.com/CorrinneAveriss/...18927073988608

She issued a statement tweet. It is a shame she had to do it because the tabloids were bombarding her. This happened with others in the past too.



Agreed. It’s not fair to other people. I wonder how the tabloids hit on her if their works are so obviously strikingly dissimilar.

On the upside- people who never heard of her- such as myself- have now. Could be a silver lining in what likely was an unwanted irritation.

Curryong 05-05-2021 08:59 AM

The accusations of plagiarism began on Twitter. The DM then leaped on it and the other tabloids and online sites then followed, as they usually do.

Archduchess Zelia 05-05-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Royalist.in.NC (Post 2396909)
I do think it is incredibly tone-deaf and mind boggling that she would choose to write a book on father - son relationships given that she helped Harry throw his own father under the bus and she herself hasn’t seen her own father in 3 years.

As I've understood it, her inspiration is Harry's relationship with Archie. Are you suggesting that people who don't have a (good) relationship with their own parent can't be good parents themselves?

Erin9 05-05-2021 09:13 AM

The Duke & Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 4: April 2021 -
 
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Originally Posted by Curryong (Post 2396910)
Prince Charles wrote a childrenís story for his youngest brother Edward, which was later published. Presumably he didnít go to writing classes and he composed it all himself.


If this was directed at me- all I did was ask IF she wrote all of it. Or had help. I didnít say she didnít. I have no idea. And I do think itís a reasonable question. Writing is a skill. Not everyone has it. Not everyone can just up and write a good childrenís book all on their own. People have and do take classes for it. Not everyone does, of course. I am well aware of that. I just asked.

I have no knowledge about Charles. Saying Charles presumably did something on his own doesnít prove anything about Meghanís ability to do likewise. I donít know. Maybe theyíre both highly skilled childrenís writers. Could be. It was just a thought that I wondered about.

ACO 05-05-2021 09:14 AM

So Meghan can't write about her son and husband's relationship because she doesn't have one with her father? Well that is interesting because I would assume many people on this planet wouldn't be able to do the same under that criteria.

Royalist.in.NC 05-05-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ACO (Post 2396908)
It is actually quite pathetic. I get people dislike Meghan but they really need to stop dragging innocent people because they want to attack her.

https://twitter.com/CorrinneAveriss/...18927073988608

She issued a statement tweet. It is a shame she had to do it because the tabloids were bombarding her. This happened with others in the past too.

Indeed, Ms Averiss may have welcomed the publicity for her own book as this may increase sales for her.:biggrin:

AC21091968 05-05-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rominet09 (Post 2396797)
Well now she has written a book to celebrate the link between child and father.
A bit strange considering she doesn't see her father any more and Harry doesn't see his too !
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148522...-dodgy-ground/

I have to agree with you that I found Meghan's new book on father and child relationship "a bit strange", given that both Harry & Meghan's relationship with their fathers are currently strained to say the least. Perhaps the phrase "inspired by her own husband and son" was the main reason I found it odd. I just hope Charles and the Royal Family is not dragged into the book both explicitly and implicitly.

However, these relationship strains do not necessary stop authors/artists from writing or releasing projects focusing on "father-and-child plot", whether it's creative or based on real events. It kind of depends how they express the father/children relationship. As to the plagiarism debate, there has been a lot of children's book written about the father and children's relationship.

Reading through the description or book introduction on the Archewell website, I could definitely see Meghan going down a more "progressive" view rather than traditional, especially with the words "modern" or "diverse".

In terms of Meghan using "Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex", it just reminds me of Sarah, Duchess of York capitalising her connection to the royal family (or royal title), which is essentially the golden ticket in getting book contracts and better book sales. Both equally tacky in my opinion. Similar could be said for Princess Michael of Kent.

P.s. I understand that I'm quite late to the discussion

US Royal Watcher 05-05-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ACO (Post 2396920)
So Meghan can't write about her son and husband's relationship because she doesn't have one with her father? Well that is interesting because I would assume many people on this planet wouldn't be able to do the same under that criteria.

I will bet cash that the vast majority of people on the planet have a relationship with their parents, even if they don't always like them much.

I'm sure it is a sweet book, which she wrote herself but then subjected to editing by a professional (as most writers do).

Royalist.in.NC 05-05-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2396917)
As I've understood it, her inspiration is Harry's relationship with Archie. Are you suggesting that people who don't have a (good) relationship with their own parent can't be good parents themselves?

No, I’m not suggesting that at all. But of all the topics in the world she could have written a children’s book about, she chose one that because of her personal history is tone-deaf.

I would love to see her use her personal history to write a children’s book about being biracial. There are numerous books out there - some good, some not so much - but this is something she could use her celebrity to talk about. And she has talked about it as an adult quite well, I think. As someone who counsels young children, I’ve worked with many bi/multiracial students whose concept of themselves is confused and/or they see themselves as “less than” somehow and struggle with fitting in (see this particularly in 4th and 5th grade girls). Bibliotherapy is very powerful for children; I think she could do a lot of good writing something like this.

When she and Harry got married, both my bi or multiracial girls as well as African-American girls were like “wow, she’s like us and now she’s a princess!” I work with a group of 5th grade girls that we call GEM (Girls EMpowered); Women United (part of United Way) helps to arrange speakers to encourage girls to think about possibilities and to provide them with role models. This is so powerful and I know Meghan has done things similar about empowering girls. But a well written book would be awesome.:flowers:

Curryong 05-05-2021 09:50 AM

Perhaps someone from Women United could approach Meghan to speak to the young girls you work with? Itís been reported that she has said that if this book sells then she will write others. So Meghan May end up writing a book on being biracial.

Queen Ester 05-05-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by valeas (Post 2396827)
Well, this surely never happened, Harry saying good bye or hello leaving or homecoming from military deployment. Makes no sense at all, to include this in the story or only the illustrations but to hold up their highly unrealistic view on life.
Wow, will be interesting to see how REAL soldiers react to this, feeling mocked by a prince who cannot cope being taken away his honorary military ranks etc , but still acting as if he had an importance to men on duty being deployed/ or in combat?
As far as my husband is considered, he lifted an eyebrow when I showed him the illustration.
But of course it is too early to judge, we will see like always. But honestly, I doubt Harry will be cheered by any military personel IF this turns out as weird as it looks now.

They really seem to have talent getting things worse, but as long as the cashflow is all right don't care.


Harry did not know Meghan during his military service. It's strange to illustrate Harry as a returning war hero to his wife and child, when he was not even married then

Royalist.in.NC 05-05-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Curryong (Post 2396927)
Perhaps someone from Women United could approach Meghan to speak to the young girls you work with? Itís been reported that she has said that if this book sells then she will write others. So Meghan May end up writing a book on being biracial.

Thatís a thought. As you probably know, United Way is a non-profit group worldwide that is the ďumbrellaĒ for decision making for how local groups sponsored by United Way receive funding, among other things. Groups such as Big Brothers Big Sisters and Meals on Wheels, for example. So the group I work with is at the county level in my state - so think small. :flowers:

There is a Women United Global Leadership Council, however, and Iím sure there is a county Womenís United group in Montecito or Santa Barbara - not sure of California counties.

Archduchess Zelia 05-05-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Royalist.in.NC (Post 2396926)
No, Iím not suggesting that at all. But of all the topics in the world she could have written a childrenís book about, she chose one that because of her personal history is tone-deaf.

I would love to see her use her personal history to write a childrenís book about being biracial. There are numerous books out there - some good, some not so much - but this is something she could use her celebrity to talk about. And she has talked about it as an adult quite well, I think. As someone who counsels young children, Iíve worked with many bi/multiracial students whose concept of themselves is confused and/or they see themselves as ďless thanĒ somehow and struggle with fitting in (see this particularly in 4th and 5th grade girls). Bibliotherapy is very powerful for children; I think she could do a lot of good writing something like this.

When she and Harry got married, both my bi or multiracial girls as well as African-American girls were like ďwow, sheís like us and now sheís a princess!Ē I work with a group of 5th grade girls that we call GEM (Girls EMpowered); Women United (part of United Way) helps to arrange speakers to encourage girls to think about possibilities and to provide them with role models. This is so powerful and I know Meghan has done things similar about empowering girls. But a well written book would be awesome.:flowers:

Only you are when you're insinuating that Meghan's relationship with her own father (or Harry's relationship with Charles) holds any relevance in terms of the subject of this book.

I agree, however, that her writing a children's book about being biracial would be great and very impactful.

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Originally Posted by Queen Ester (Post 2396930)
Harry did not know Meghan during his military service. It's strange to illustrate Harry as a returning war hero to his wife and child, when he was not even married then

...He isn't being illustrated as such.

Curryong 05-05-2021 10:15 AM

Thank you for that information, Royalist. I’d just investigate the possibility that she might come down, or speak by Zoom, would be interesting to see.

duchessrachel 05-05-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by valeas (Post 2396827)
Well, this surely never happened, Harry saying good bye or hello leaving or homecoming from military deployment. Makes no sense at all, to include this in the story or only the illustrations but to hold up their highly unrealistic view on life.
Wow, will be interesting to see how REAL soldiers react to this, feeling mocked by a prince who cannot cope being taken away his honorary military ranks etc , but still acting as if he had an importance to men on duty being deployed/ or in combat?
As far as my husband is considered, he lifted an eyebrow when I showed him the illustration.
But of course it is too early to judge, we will see like always. But honestly, I doubt Harry will be cheered by any military personel IF this turns out as weird as it looks now.

They really seem to have talent getting things worse, but as long as the cashflow is all right don't care.

What is this about the portrayal of the military? I missed this somehow.

Fijiro 05-05-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by valeas (Post 2396827)
Well, this surely never happened, Harry saying good bye or hello leaving or homecoming from military deployment. Makes no sense at all, to include this in the story or only the illustrations but to hold up their highly unrealistic view on life.
Wow, will be interesting to see how REAL soldiers react to this, feeling mocked by a prince who cannot cope being taken away his honorary military ranks etc , but still acting as if he had an importance to men on duty being deployed/ or in combat?
As far as my husband is considered, he lifted an eyebrow when I showed him the illustration.
But of course it is too early to judge, we will see like always. But honestly, I doubt Harry will be cheered by any military personel IF this turns out as weird as it looks now.

They really seem to have talent getting things worse, but as long as the cashflow is all right don't care.


Prince Harry is a REAL soldier who served in combat for two tours in Afghanistan, for ten years. And since we haven't read the book yet, we don't know who is illustrated as the American soldier with his son, just like we do not know who is illustrated as the African man with his son.
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Lee-Z 05-05-2021 01:25 PM

I think we should remember that the book is *inspired* by her husband and son...it is not intending to be an autobiography...


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