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JessRulz 07-18-2020 09:37 PM

Princess Beatrice and Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, Current Events 1: July 2020-
 
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eya 08-19-2020 01:31 PM

"Chi" magazine publishes pictures of Princess Beatrice and of her new husband, Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi and his son. The couple took a few days to Amalfi

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEBvoYCKmiu/

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Moonmaiden23 08-19-2020 01:38 PM

Edo and Bea took a "familymoon" in Italy after their road trip through France.

Adorable.:smile:

REAL COUNTESS 08-19-2020 02:10 PM

What lovely pic's. I am glad they are having fun. Hope we'll see them also at Balmoral soon.

AC21091968 08-19-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eya (Post 2337081)

Lovely pictures. They seem to be having so much fun in the sun! :smile:

Countessmeout 08-19-2020 11:40 PM

Lovely pictures. Its great they took Wolfie on a vacation together. :flowers:

I am not a fan though of his son's face being shown. Wolfie is a private citizen on private time. That should be better respected.

Duchess_Watcher 08-22-2020 11:40 AM

Lovely photos!

It is rumored they will be moving to the Nott Cottage! So close to her sister :)

Winnie 08-22-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi (Post 2326049)
wOw! She is absolutely gorgeous in that picture!!!

Oh Yes. Professional makeup has enhanced her large beautiful eyes perfectly. She looks stunning

Sandy345 08-30-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Countessmeout (Post 2337224)
Lovely pictures. Its great they took Wolfie on a vacation together. :flowers:

I am not a fan though of his son's face being shown. Wolfie is a private citizen on private time. That should be better respected.

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Fortunately his face is partially obscured by the sun glasses.

Countessmeout 08-30-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Duchess_Watcher (Post 2337835)
Lovely photos!

It is rumored they will be moving to the Nott Cottage! So close to her sister :)

Seems unlikely especially if they want a child together. Notts cottage is only two bedrooms. It was good as a bachelor pad and newly wed home, but once kids come its not the most practical. Ivy at least has three bedrooms.

Sandy345 08-30-2020 04:35 PM

Does Edo have an apartment or residence in London?

MsJulie 08-31-2020 01:05 AM

If not in the correct thread please move my questions. My questions are not in any order...just typing out as I think.

Princess Beatrice has a coat of arms. In looking on the net it does not appear to have changed at all since her marriage.

Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, his family has a coat of arms. Again looking on the net, it appears a family coat of arms, not individual person.

Will Princess Beatrice coat of arms change to include Edoardo?

Will Edoardo get his own British coat of arms?

When they have children, will they get their own British coat of arms?

Does Edoardo’s entire family use the same family coat of arms? Therefore can he use the family one at any time? And if Beatrice would want to, can she use it also?

If I am correct, Michael Middleton, has a coat of arms the family can now use. Would Edoardo get that type of coat of arms too?

I know already, Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank will not get a coat of arms. I would assume the same for Edoardo however, he is a Count in Italy...yes, I know how the family got the title, that he can not use the title in England, etc. I just read all of the information.

Thank you everyone....

sndral 08-31-2020 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Countessmeout (Post 2339400)
Seems unlikely especially if they want a child together. Notts cottage is only two bedrooms. It was good as a bachelor pad and newly wed home, but once kids come its not the most practical. Ivy at least has three bedrooms.

Yes, I get the impression Nott cottage is quite small - William and Catherine had it as their London base when George was born, but Catherine opted to stay at her parents rather than taking baby George home to Nott Cottage. It’s probably not ideal for Edo and Bea since presumably they’ll have Wolfie w/ them at times & may want more children.

Countessmeout 08-31-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sndral (Post 2339466)
Yes, I get the impression Nott cottage is quite small - William and Catherine had it as their London base when George was born, but Catherine opted to stay at her parents rather than taking baby George home to Nott Cottage. It’s probably not ideal for Edo and Bea since presumably they’ll have Wolfie w/ them at times & may want more children.

Nott cottage was never intended to be a family home. Its 2 bedrooms. Kate and William were meant to move into Apartment 1A but it wasn't ready in time. They didn't move in until October. Nanny Webb joined the family in September. Even with one child they were going to need at least 3 bedrooms, and for royals with a live in nanny, living in close courters with the nanny may not be that comfortable. It made sense she stayed with her parents during the early months until they could move into their home.

Beatrice and Edo might not need a nanny, but I don't see them not wanting a third bedroom. For another child. Or for guests.

There are always rumors about where royals and where they will live. Look at how many rumored homes there were for Harry and Meghan.

Quote:

If not in the correct thread please move my questions. My questions are not in any order...just typing out as I think.

Princess Beatrice has a coat of arms. In looking on the net it does not appear to have changed at all since her marriage.

Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, his family has a coat of arms. Again looking on the net, it appears a family coat of arms, not individual person.

Will Princess Beatrice coat of arms change to include Edoardo?

Will Edoardo get his own British coat of arms?

When they have children, will they get their own British coat of arms?

Does Edoardo’s entire family use the same family coat of arms? Therefore can he use the family one at any time? And if Beatrice would want to, can she use it also?

If I am correct, Michael Middleton, has a coat of arms the family can now use. Would Edoardo get that type of coat of arms too?

I know already, Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank will not get a coat of arms. I would assume the same for Edoardo however, he is a Count in Italy...yes, I know how the family got the title, that he can not use the title in England, etc. I just read all of the information.

Thank you everyone....

Here is a bit about Middleton coat of arms.

https://www.royal.uk/new-coat-arms-m...and-her-family


Beatrice's children will not gain a coat of arms through her. Coat of arms are passed through the father's line not the mother's line. Could they apply like Michael Middleton for a family coat of arms themselves? Perhaps, but the queen wont be giving personal coats of arms like George will get when he turns 18 and his siblings.

The reason Beatrice's hasn't changed is likely connected to the fact that Edo's coat of arms is Italian. Different countries have different heraldry and laws surrounding them. If Beatrice was married to the son of an English earl that might be different.

Edo's coat of arms are a family coat of arms not personal. So any legal members of the family would be entitled to its use. Wolfy being a natural son I am not sure the legality of him using it.


Edo is an English citizen and his father is as well. They could apply, not sure all the requirements but being a citizen of the UK or commonwealth is part, but considering he has a family coat of arms to use I don't see why he would petition for a British one.

CyrilVladisla 08-31-2020 04:47 AM

Could Edoardo be denied a British coat of arms since he and his father have an Italian coat of arms?

Moonmaiden23 08-31-2020 05:45 AM

Could Beatrice link her Arms with Edo's or maybe incorporate parts of the Mapelli-Mozzi Arms into her own, since she is now Princess Beatrice, Mrs Mapelli-Mozzi?

Heavs 08-31-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23 (Post 2339504)
Could Beatrice link her Arms with Edo's or maybe incorporate parts of the Mapelli-Mozzi Arms into her own, since she is now Princess Beatrice, Mrs Mapelli-Mozzi?

Since it belongs to a non British noble house who's titles are not recognised? She probably won't.

It's possible Edo could apply to the College of Arms and they'd find a qualifying ancestor to create a personal British one for him but as far as we know he hasn't done that.

Eugenie has not (as far as we know) had marital arms created with Jack, and I believe his family have a Coat of Arms that he is (might?) entitled to use - though it didn't appear on their wedding Order of Service and hers did.

Princess Alexandra and Sir Angus Ogilvy had a joint CoA created when they were married. He was the son of an Earl.

As for Wolfie, although he's a natural son there are no actual laws governing what he calls himself or if he uses as Coat of Arms so if it appeals he to him he may do so despite any objections from other Mapelli Mozzi's and the private organisations in Italy that currently oversee things like that.

AC21091968 08-31-2020 06:29 AM

According to Wikipedia and quick Google search, Princess Eugenie's coat of arms has not changed since marriage.

As far as I have looked on the internet, Jack does not have his own/personal coat of arms, but there is a coat of arms for the Brooksbank baronets, as shown in his Wikipedia page.

Jack Brooksbank's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Brooksbank

Brooksbank baronets' wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksbank_baronets

Mirabel 08-31-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy345 (Post 2339403)
Does Edo have an apartment or residence in London?

Beatrice and Edo have been living in St. James Palace, in the apartment Beatrice used to share with Eugenie.

They'd be better off staying there instead of Nott Cott, at least it has four bedrooms (although the rooms are supposed to be small).

But I expect they will get another place in London.

Heavs 09-08-2020 05:28 AM

Beatrice seen shopping in London yesterday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...e-Company.html


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