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iceflower 07-20-2020 09:40 AM

Wedding of Eleonore of Habsburg and Jerome d'Ambrosio: July 20, 2020
 
Today, July 20, Eleonore of Habsburg married Jerome d'Ambrosio during a ceremony in Monaco.

"Eleonore (Jelena Maria del Pilar Christina Iona) von Habsburg and Jerome d'Ambrosio have made a commitment to each other in marriage today at the registry office in Monaco. The celebration happened in a strictly intimate circle of family and friends. The wedding between Eleonore, born 28th February 1994 in Salzburg as daughter of Karl von Habsburg and Francesca Thyssen-Bornemisza, and Jerome d'Ambrosio, born 27th December 1985 in Etterbeck (Belgium), was planned quite differently. Covid-19 and related legal restrictions have made it impossible to have a formal wedding as had been planned for this year. The church wedding in a bigger circle will be celebrated as soon as the pandemic restrictions get lifted. As witnesses to the marriage the respective sisters were acting. For Eleonore von Habsburg her sister Gloria, for Jérôme d'Ambrosio his sister Olivia. The civil wedding was attended by the closest family members. After the wedding a slightly bigger circle of friends was meeting for lunch, of course respecting all rules of social distancing. Eleonore, a professional jewelry designer, and Jerome, a Formula E race car driver, met on a plane, three years ago, flying from London to Nice."


** gettyimages gallery **

Lumutqueen 07-20-2020 10:32 AM

I appreciate that it's only a registry office but the bride and I presume mother of the brides outfits are hideous in my opinion.

An Ard Ri 07-20-2020 10:44 AM

I wonder if they will have a church blessing too?

Tilia C. 07-20-2020 11:35 AM

IIRC, the groom is a divorced catholic, but maybe I am mistaken, as iceflower's quote above states that they are planning to have a church ceremony and big festivities once the corona situation is over. That would be something to look forward to. I assume that the bride then will wear the family's pearl and diamond bandeau.
Is it known why they chose Monaco as the location of their civil wedding?

An Ard Ri 07-20-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tilia C. (Post 2328225)
Is it known why they chose Monaco as the location of their civil wedding?

Yes I was wondering about the location being in Monaco,are they residing threre?

Heavs 07-20-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 2328236)
Yes I was wondering about the location being in Monaco,are they residing threre?

It says they met on a plane flying from London to Nice so maybe one or both live(d) there? Maybe something to do with his career as a Formula E diver?

I can't think why they'd specifically go there to get married in a registry office at the moment if they don't live there or have family there.

Susan D 07-20-2020 03:03 PM

In photographs the bride looked really pretty and I presume the groom lives in Monaco. A lot of sports people live there for tax reasons: they make their lifetime money in a short time.

Lumutqueen 07-20-2020 03:05 PM

Odd indeed, she born in Switzerland and he born in Belgium.

An Ard Ri 07-20-2020 03:11 PM

Jerome D’Ambrosio was previously married to Natalie Sifferman,the Wedding took place at St. Nicholas church in La Hulpe, Belgium in June 2014.Perhaps he will seek an annulment?

Stefan 07-20-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 2328262)
Jerome D’Ambrosio was previously married to Natalie Sifferman,the Wedding took place at St. Nicholas church in La Hulpe, Belgium in June 2014.Perhaps he will seek an annulment?


Probably his first marriage was already annulled as a religious Wedding was planned and will take place when the Corona restrictions are lifted.

An Ard Ri 07-20-2020 04:37 PM

The Habsburg are very Catholic so that wouldn't surprise me at all.

rominet09 07-20-2020 06:11 PM

The mother of the bride's outfit leaves me speechless....

Somebody 07-20-2020 06:53 PM

I still don't understand the whole annulment principle. What could be the reason to require an annulment in this case?!

Gawin 07-20-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Somebody (Post 2328314)
I still don't understand the whole annulment principle. What could be the reason to require an annulment in this case?!

Without an annulment the groom is still married to his first wife in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church. The Church does not recognize the civil divorce.

Somebody 07-20-2020 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gawin (Post 2328315)
Without an annulment the groom is still married to his first wife in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church. The Church does not recognize the civil divorce.

That I know - in that case the consistent thing would be not to allow a second marriage (sacrament); as it would be impossible to marry someone that is still married. However, the 'solution' of an annulment requires the assumption that the marriage should never have taken place i.e. technically never took place (as it requires some kind of reason why that marriage was invalid from the start). I don't see what valid reason this groom would have to claim that.

Options are:
- Defect of form (invalid marriage ceremony: unlikely to be the case)
- Defect of contract (no intention to be married for life: given that they divorced rather quickly, they could probably argue so - but was that truly the case from the start? And if so, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of marriage...)
- Defect of will (some kind of error: unlikely imho)
- Defect of capacity (not allowed to marry: unlikely as well)

In general, I wonder what the most common ground is for annulment as it seems quite a few royals have been able to 'get' an annulment.

Gawin 07-20-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Somebody (Post 2328316)
That I know - in that case the consistent thing would be not to allow a second marriage (sacrament); as it would be impossible to marry someone that is still married. However, the 'solution' of an annulment requires the assumption that the marriage should never have taken place i.e. technically never took place (as it requires some kind of reason why that marriage was invalid from the start). I don't see what valid reason this groom would have to claim that.

Options are:
- Defect of form (invalid marriage ceremony: unlikely to be the case)
- Defect of contract (no intention to be married for life: given that they divorced rather quickly, they could probably argue so - but was that truly the case from the start? And if so, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of marriage...)
- Defect of will (some kind of error: unlikely imho)
- Defect of capacity (not allowed to marry: unlikely as well)

In general, I wonder what the most common ground is for annulment as it seems quite a few royals have been able to 'get' an annulment.

Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I agree, I'm curious to know what the grounds for the annulment would be.

Countessmeout 07-20-2020 08:44 PM

:previous: Since they are private and his marriage/divorce is unknown, we have no idea what issues may have caused them to break up. And no reason to know or want to know what grounds the annulment were made on.

Congratulations to the couple on their marriage :flowers:

This is when having to have a civil and religious wedding works out. They can actually have two weddings. In other places you'd have to do a vow renewal, but they just have their religious wedding down the line when it is safe. They aren't the first people to have quite a bit of time between the religious and civil weddings even pre-pandemic.

Nice they had their parents and some close friends to share the big day :flowers:

I assume Monaco is a link because of his driving career.

MAfan 07-21-2020 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawin (Post 2328317)
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I agree, I'm curious to know what the grounds for the annulment would be.

Just like in many other similar cases, I'd also be curious to know on what grounds the previous marriage was declared null and void. But I believe we will never know it, as it is a very private matter (in this case also involving private persons).

BTW, congratulations to the happy couple!

Kit 07-21-2020 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2328260)
Odd indeed, she born in Switzerland and he born in Belgium.



Eleonore was born in Salzburg, Austria. [emoji3] Congratulations to the happy couple!

Biri 07-21-2020 07:04 AM

Congratulations to the couple!


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