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winifred 05-03-2020 09:33 AM

"Finding Freedom: Harry, Meghan, and the Making of a Modern Royal Family"

We're all speculating of course but I'd take bets this is far more likely to be a hit job on the media rather than the royals.

My quibble is with the "modern royal family" part. If we use the example of some of the European monarchies, Harry and Meghan will always be members of the royal family but have chosen not to be members of the Royal House. They are therefore in exactly the same position as Beatrice, Eugenie, Peter, Zara and Louise and James.

In order to be financially independent they are going to have to use their royal connections, because that's why they're interesting. Nothing new about it or shameful; they'll use the same connections to network for the good works they're going to do.

But I don't get what would be "modern" about any of this. How is it going to be different from what the other non-members of the Royal House do?

angieuk 05-03-2020 09:45 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...g-Freedom.html

Front Cover of the New Book; August 2020

HARRY AND MEGHAN - FINDING FREEDOM

carlota 05-03-2020 10:19 AM

How ironic that they left the RF because they wanted to lead “private lives” away from the media intrusion and they are now collaborating with two journalists to release all their intimate details.

I said it before and will say it again - these two are so full of egocentricity and crave the spotlight so much it’s preventing them from acting logically. They simply make no sense.

Denville 05-03-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 2311885)
They didn't write it indeed, but, as least, they are well aware of it.
To put it simply, what we are seeing now : On one side ALL the members of the BRF, from Princess Charlotte to Princess Alexandra , are helping, one way or another, the UK, backing the NHS in this global crisis.
And, on the other side, we see a couple exiled in LA, apparently, and i say apparently, more busy to sell themselves as victims, fighting papers in Court and now welcoming a tell-all book .
It's not rocket science to see how this gap, deepening day after day, is totally desastrous for the image of the Sussexes , a couple who wants to be humanitarian champions but appears more and more as self-centered brats.
The worse part is, i guess, or at least i hope, they mean well, but gosh their communication and their timing are just plain awful.

"Finding Freedom", i mean, really ?

But they did do that food delivery.
Im afraid I never bought the idea that they were humanitarian champions. Harry has a kind heart and he's tried to do good, but I think he's let his demons drive him into self obsession and he's also allowed Meghan to take over his life and he is now part of this "power couple" who may never really take off because of the pandemic. If they wanted to, they could do some good in Canaada or the USA.. but they seemed to opt for a one off "showing themselves off" delivering food and then, that's it...

Denville 05-03-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by janet14 (Post 2311890)
"Finding Freedom: Harry, Meghan, and the Making of a Modern Royal Family"

We're all speculating of course but I'd take bets this is far more likely to be a hit job on the media rather than the royals.

My quibble is with the "modern royal family" part. If we use the example of some of the European monarchies, Harry and Meghan will always be members of the royal family but have chosen not to be members of the Royal House. They are therefore in exactly the same position as Beatrice, Eugenie, Peter, Zara and Louise and James.

In order to be financially independent they are going to have to use their royal connections, because that's why they're interesting. Nothing new about it or shameful; they'll use the same connections to network for the good works they're going to do.

But I don't get what would be "modern" about any of this. How is it going to be different from what the other non-members of the Royal House do?

The difference is that they were supposed to be working for the Firm. They had a role, they had tehir HRH, they had opportunities to work for charities.. but for some reasons, whether dislike of the press, dislike of the UK, they opted out, left the RF short of 2 workers.. I wont say they were vital workers but they were considered to be important and it had been planned fior them to do royal work for their lives. The other royals who do work for themselves have always been meant to do that...

Missjersey 05-03-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by carlota (Post 2311898)
How ironic that they left the RF because they wanted to lead “private lives” away from the media intrusion and they are now collaborating with two journalists to release all their intimate details.

I said it before and will say it again - these two are so full of egocentricity and crave the spotlight so much it’s preventing them from acting logically. They simply make no sense.

The title, I can’t even....

I think I have eye rollitis lol

Betsypaige 05-03-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2311883)
IF this is true, gone are the assumptions that this is “like all the other biographies” royals have corroborated with.

How do you mean?

I feel like this book is going to reflect exactly what Harry and Meghan want it to, that it’s closer to a ghost written memoir/tell-all than it is straight non-fiction with one (even if it was long) interview.

Nico:

Exactly. They ARE out of touch - and every time they try and explain themselves, they just dig the hole deeper and deeper. Their supporters will buy the book and buy everything in it, but I think the primary impact with the British public will be scorn...and a deeper appreciation for the BRF.


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If it's true, aka the real title, there's always something deeply indecent and disturbing when two highly privileged people are moaning about their search of some kind of "freedom" almost Nelson Mandela style.
But i'm not suprised , as some die hard fans just cried "free at last" when they moved to Canada then LA, as if the British royal family was Alcatraz or something.

The more time passes, the more the Sussexes seem totally out of touch with the current state of the World. This book will be desastrous PR wise in the UK, as their message (if any), is totally inaudible nowadays.
I guess there 'll be some interest in the US, and maybe a TV movie on the hallmark channel.
How rewarding.

Eskimo 05-03-2020 11:47 AM

This is too tone deaf and beggars belief-the title, the fact that they use the word plague to describe her dilemma whilst the planet is going through COVID-19.

This is going to be a disaster for them, PR and otherwise.

Betsypaige 05-03-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eskimo (Post 2311920)
This is too tone deaf and beggars belief-the title, the fact that they use the word plague to describe her dilemma whilst the planet is going through COVID-19.

This is going to be a disaster for them, PR and otherwise.

I posted it, and I didn’t even catch that, lol. Good lord, their PR is brutal. Maybe it seems like a small thing, but it’s not. While they’ve been “plagued” by misunderstandings and misconceptions, the rest of the world is suffering from a very real plague.

This book would be annoying under any conditions, but now? It should be delayed indefinitely....

Duke of Marmalade 05-03-2020 12:05 PM

'Modern Royal Family' after they opted out? :wacko:
And Finding Freedom? The latest pictures from Harry delivering the food show him angry/sulking as usual with Meghan patting his back or touching him to calm him down.
But thankfully, this is the book they would always write. I am glad it's done with in August already.
The attention they will get now will not be enough for a second book. At some point the story gets lame and more interesting people will be in town.

Kataryn 05-03-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsypaige (Post 2311864)
Well, it starts...


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...g-Freedom.html



The title🤮. As if the BRF enslaved them. Who the heck will have any sympathy for them? Plus, they chose to ditch the Royal life, yet they are still trading in the connection.


How can you write a book about Harry and Meghan without bringing up who Harry is and who they were after the wedding? How can that be "trading on their connections"?


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The description of the book is just so expected, lol. “Unafraid to break with tradition, determined to create a new path away from the spotlight....” Away from the spotlight? That’s why they moved to LA, why they hired the same PR firm as represents several celebrities, why they cooperated for this book...
They moved to Meghan's hometown where her mother lives. Just living in LA does not mean "in the spotlight" - especially now. Why can't you wait for them to do what you blame them for? Like being on Red Carpets, dancing with the stars, drinking champagne in Bel Air? As for the need of a PR firm - the media is interested in them, so they need specialised people who cope for them with the media. No matter who these people work with as well, they are specialists for public relations and Harry & Meghan need them.

As for the cooperation? We don't know enough about that, just that the "Daily Mail" will know nothing from the source and that the Mail on sunday (their source) knows nothing either. As for "fears" - well, one better calls that "hope" as this would sell papers.

Let me say it again: Harry would do nothing to hurt his grandmother or his father in the beginning of a new reign.




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I think this book will take shots at the BRF, but I don’t think it will hurt them because I believe most of the British public - and, I think, Americans who truly follow the Royals- side with the BRF in terms of how Megxit played out. In fact, how things have played out since...

Just saying that Meghan and Harry have been lying low, not given interviews, just done some charity work. While the MoS today again claims, they were interested in just another 10 mil. $ Plus house in LA next to superstars. A real Royal mansion, when they showed us with Frogmore Cottage instead of Apt. 1 at Kensington Palace, that they prefer smaller and more private places as long as security is okay.


So I think people will be very disappointed in the book when they think of re-telling of Royal scandals and insider infos, I rather think it will be fuill of cloudy words about "empowering" people, positive thoughts and "loving and helping humanity".

Missjersey 05-03-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 2311929)
How can you write a book about Harry and Meghan without bringing up who Harry is and who they were after the wedding? How can that be "trading on their connections"?


They moved to Meghan's hometown where her mother lives. Just living in LA does not mean "in the spotlight" - especially now. Why can't you wait for them to do what you blame them for? Like being on Red Carpets, dancing with the stars, drinking champagne in Bel Air? As for the need of a PR firm - the media is interested in them, so they need specialised people who cope for them with the media. No matter who these people work with as well, they are specialists for public relations and Harry & Meghan need them.

As for the cooperation? We don't know enough about that, just that the "Daily Mail" will know nothing from the source and that the Mail on sunday (their source) knows nothing either. As for "fears" - well, one better calls that "hope" as this would sell papers.

Let me say it again: Harry would do nothing to hurt his grandmother or his father in the beginning of a new reign.







Just saying that Meghan and Harry have been lying low, not given interviews, just done some charity work. While the MoS today again claims, they were interested in just another 10 mil. $ Plus house in LA next to superstars. A real Royal mansion, when they showed us with Frogmore Cottage instead of Apt. 1 at Kensington Palace, that they prefer smaller and more private places as long as security is okay.


So I think people will be very disappointed in the book when they think of re-telling of Royal scandals and insider infos, I rather think it will be fuill of cloudy words about "empowering" people, positive thoughts and "loving and helping humanity".


Three paragraphs up...I believe they hurt Gran and Dad the way they left, jmo....

Kataryn 05-03-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville (Post 2311903)
The difference is that they were supposed to be working for the Firm. They had a role, they had tehir HRH, they had opportunities to work for charities.. but for some reasons, whether dislike of the press, dislike of the UK, they opted out, left the RF short of 2 workers.. I wont say they were vital workers but they were considered to be important and it had been planned fior them to do royal work for their lives. The other royals who do work for themselves have always been meant to do that...


They were harrassed, humiliated and the tabloids lied about them, turning Harry into a weakling and Meghan into a witch. They were lambasted for their use of public money - (see what Associated Newspapers said about that in their reply against Meghan's claim) - all was wrong, even if all the other Royals did the same. When the media went against their child after harrassing the mother through her pregnancy, they decided to go and look for "freedom" - of their enemies in the media.



Now they live in Meghan's hometown and look what they can do there. If being Royal beens that you can all jump on them and use them as your doormat, it just makes no sense to stay "Royals". What is a HRH or a title worth if your child is compared to an ape, because his mother is biracial? For them,. obviously nothing. But for the tabloids, it gives them the "inner right" to push them down and throw with mud. What a terrible life!

Kataryn 05-03-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Missjersey (Post 2311933)
Three paragraphs up...I believe they hurt Gran and Dad the way they left, jmo....


Ok, do you mean as persons? Yes, I think they did. Because they saw how they hurt and couldn't help them enough to make them stay.


As a prince and his wife hurting the queen and the Prince of Wales? Not so much, as William is the heir and Harry "just the spare" who has a right to search of another situation in life where he feels more accepted and respected. For that is a right every human has, even the Royals.

Missjersey 05-03-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 2311935)
Ok, do you mean as persons? Yes, I think they did. Because they saw how they hurt and couldn't help them enough to make them stay.


As a prince and his wife hurting the queen and the Prince of Wales? Not so much, as William is the heir and Harry "just the spare" who has a right to search of another situation in life where he feels more accepted and respected. For that is a right every human has, even the Royals.


Yes Kataryn, I also think,, IMO, that they hurt the Queen and Prince of Wales.

Not going to rehash it, we have a difference of opinions

HighGoalHighDreams 05-03-2020 12:30 PM

One thing is for certain: Omid has spent too long building a favorable relationship with the Sussexes to burn that bridge by printing anything they don't approve of. That connection is too valuable to him. If he continues to act as their de facto spokesperson, we will know what we need to about the Sussexes' feelings about the book's contents.

Missjersey 05-03-2020 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams (Post 2311938)
One thing is for certain: Omid has spent too long building a favorable relationship with the Sussexes to burn that bridge by printing anything they don't approve of. That connection is too valuable to him. If he continues to act as their de facto spokesperson, we will know what we need to about the Sussexes' feelings about the book's contents.

Seems like he’a become their parrot

Lumutqueen 05-03-2020 12:35 PM

Thoroughly Modern Royals:The Real World of Harry and Meghan.
 
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Originally Posted by Betsypaige (Post 2311919)
How do you mean?

I feel like this book is going to reflect exactly what Harry and Meghan want it to, that it’s closer to a ghost written memoir/tell-all than it is straight non-fiction with one (even if it was long) interview.

I agree, previous posters suggested that this book was nothing more than other previous corroborations we’ve seen which has simply done a “day in the life” of a royal. The DM article, if true, smashes that theory. This is their attempt at the Andrew Morton...

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Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams (Post 2311938)
One thing is for certain: Omid has spent too long building a favorable relationship with the Sussexes to burn that bridge by printing anything they don't approve of. That connection is too valuable to him. If he continues to act as their de facto spokesperson, we will know what we need to about the Sussexes' feelings about the book's contents.


If this is, as they say it is, I hope this burns any non Sussex bridges for him in the UK. He’s not a reporter, he’s a repeater.

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Originally Posted by Missjersey (Post 2311939)
Seems like he’a become their parrot


I’ve been shot down on this forum for saying he was their mouthpiece, now they’ve only gone and proved me right.

Kataryn 05-03-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2311940)
I agree, previous posters suggested that this book was nothing more than other previous corroborations we’ve seen which has simply done a “day in the life” of a royal. The DM article, if true, smashes that theory. This is their attempt at the Andrew Morton...


Why do people still believe anything the Daily Mail or the other tabloids write. We know that their employees and their informant were locked out of Harry's and Meghan's life and that they have a big agenda against the, So why believe their "fears" that scandalous things might happern? And what things? It's not like H&M had an enemy in the Royal family! The queen and Charles love them and William is Harry's brother! So what kind of stories will come out that will hurt the family members? I can imagine there can be stories about the staff collaborating with the tabloids, but how could this hurt H&M or the RF?

Lumutqueen 05-03-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 2311942)
Why do people still believe anything the Daily Mail or the other tabloids write.


Did you read the part where I wrote, “if true”?....because your response to my comment says you didn’t.


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