Originally Posted by Betsypaige
I also find this significant.....but not surprising. IMO, H and M went Hollywood because they wanted to be celebrities more than they cared about doing good work. These Hollywood "yes" spin doctors and publicists have, ironically - but again, not surprisingly - hurt them far more than they've helped them.
I don't know. Maybe Harry, because of course Charles is his father.....with time, because trust has been lost. I don't think Meghan - and I don't think she'd want to be a working Royal, that much is clear. The book doesn't have to be as vicious and damning as the Diana book for it to have an impact, though.....and I don't think anyone in the BRF is naive enough to believe that H and M didn't even tacitly cooperate in some way.
The impact on the BRF will be personal. They've all moved on professionally as it were, doing their things and not letting H and M's absence affect them.
I think that the very fact that their departure happened and that it sparked off this rash of books where M and Harry came across as very critical of just about everyone in the RF, the press, the royal circle, the Royal staff, is a good enough reason for the RF to say "no more" and to be very reluctant to have them back as working royals.
Their walk out proved they were not reliable and the books even if only half true have given a picture of people who were NOT on the same page as the RF and their way of doing things.. and who again, could not be relied upon. Possibly they did not collaborate, but I think its very possible that they did.. and that in any case the picture painted is of 2 people who seemed alienated from the RF and determined to go their own way..
Charles is likely to be both hurt and angry, the queen also.. but I think they will both always keep the door open on a personal level. However I don't think they'll really expect the sort of commitment and pulling together that they need in long term royal workers. However I suspect that Charles DOES hope that maybe something can be salvaged as he has lost 3 of his helpers in the past few months.. pretty much at the same time.
He wants to keep the RF slim but he lost 2 key workers, in H and Meg and maybe he will hope "if I can get them on side again, I could use the help"... But how can he really trust them? if they come back, I think it will be on M's part for financial reasons, and that's not good.
Harry may begin to miss England and be more willing to return but he wont want to come without his wife.. and I think he has shown himself to be very unreliable and mitght come back but walk out again.
Originally Posted by Iluvbertie
Charles' relationship with his parents was always rocky - not just after the Dimbleby book but for decades before that.
It is better but it is still the weakest of all of the Queen's children and their parents.
However Charles' relationship with his parents was never as fractured as William's and Harry's appears to be - I am not sure it can be repaired and certainly not in the short term.
I also suspect that Harry has major bridges to now mend with both his father and grandmother and it is possible that those relationships will also never be mended.
This book is, like the Morton book, a real eye-opener to Harry's true thoughts about his family and just as Diana learnt that there was no way back I wouldn't be surprised if Harry is never really welcomed back into the family. They will put on a show for the 10-15 minutes they appear together in public but otherwise they will be totally separate.
I dont know if it is that Harry's relationship with his father is fractured so much as that Harry has revealed a very odd mindset.. He doesn't seem to be happy with anyone in his family...(or i suspect anyone in his past life)
and not sure that Will's relationship with Charles is bad.. I think that in the past they did have problems, due to the Diana issue and I think also both boys saw C as an old fuddy duddy. But I think that Will has long since matured past that.
I agree that if this whole book is even half true, it is going to make difficulties between H and the rest of the family, esp his father..but he is blood, unlike Diana, so I dont think the rift will be complete as hers was...