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Curryong 04-20-2019 07:14 PM

Moving two people out who have become a 'problem', sucking up too much RF oxygen in the media?

Ista 04-20-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlo (Post 2212890)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...rift-j3cft5d3d



That article makes William look bad.

It's behind a paywall. Anyone want to take a stab at summarizing the high points?

Countessmeout 04-20-2019 07:19 PM

I am sorry but this story seems to be one of those dreamed up by the people who wish to have Harry and Meghan disappear into the wood work. Royal Nika is not always right, and I love when certain royal writers are taken as word.

Yes there have been royals who have gone abroad to live in the past. But that was back in the days when they would serve as governor general. And was to realms where the queen/king was the monarch as well. Like Canada.

They didn't just spend millions refurbishing a house not to use it. And if they were going to move abroad, it would be to one of the queen's realms.

Then there is the whole citizenship issue as well with Meghan.

There is always a small hint of truth. They likely, as most of us have already speculated, will be spending more and more time abroad. Like Edward and Sophie have been before, Harry and Meghan will likely become the British face on the foreign circle. Between the commonwealth trust and the ACU, they already have foreign roles carved out for them.

The idea the 'feud' will drive them to flee the continent is laughable :lol:

Dman 04-20-2019 07:24 PM

If anything, the Sussexes likely officially tour Africa, but moving there don’t seem possible.

The constant narrative of a “rift” between these couples is also fueling the rumors against, Meghan. I’ve always said that some royal watchers feel like there’s not enough room for these two couples in Buckingham Palace. What I find disappointing is that their officials have done little to nothing to stomp out the rumors.

jacqui24 04-20-2019 07:54 PM

I swear, royal watching has led me to see some of the weirdest things people can consider as a “problem”.

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Insiders knew something was needed to keep the couple’s interest. “The problem with these two is that they want to do, rather than to be,” said a source relaying the views of palace officials.

Pranter 04-20-2019 08:11 PM

None of this rings true...are you guys really buying into this?


LaRae

Osipi 04-20-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2212910)
None of this rings true...are you guys really buying into this?


LaRae

I'm not. Personally I think if all of the BRF sits down to an Easter feast at Windsor Castle tomorrow, it'd be something they'd be joking about and ribbing each other about.

I don't see William having a problem at all with either Harry or Meghan but as their roles are changing, they'll be going in different directions. One just has to look at all the success that Harry and Meghan have had in under a year to realize that the people that would appreciate it the most and value their worth within the "Firm" would be the other royals that work for the "Firm". Its not a competition at all but a team working together.

That's how I see it anyways. :biggrin:

Pranter 04-20-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi (Post 2212912)
I'm not. Personally I think if all of the BRF sits down to an Easter feast at Windsor Castle tomorrow, it'd be something they'd be joking about and ribbing each other about.

I don't see William having a problem at all with either Harry or Meghan but as their roles are changing, they'll be going in different directions. One just has to look at all the success that Harry and Meghan have had in under a year to realize that the people that would appreciate it the most and value their worth within the "Firm" would be the other royals that work for the "Firm". Its not a competition at all but a team working together.

That's how I see it anyways. :biggrin:

None of it makes sense. She's in the middle of becoming a UK citizen...they just did this huge and expensive remodel for a home...fixing to have a baby...it all smacks of the same thing we've seen the media do between the family members for decades...create these rivalries and animosity.

Starting to see comments that the Cambridges won't be at Windsor tomorrow ..and if they aren't you know folks are going to say see...this is why.

I think it is silly town right now.


LaRae

O-H Anglophile 04-20-2019 08:45 PM

The Sun has jumped onboard---

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/890720...l-baby-africa/

andi 04-20-2019 08:48 PM

The only thing I'll hesitantly believe is couriers had discussions about Harry & Meghan working abroad. Other than that, one of the article's sources claims members of the royal family think Meghan wants to run for POTUS, which tells me these 'sources' are delusional

JuliannaVictoria 04-20-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andi (Post 2212920)
The only thing I'll hesitantly believe is couriers had discussions about Harry & Meghan working abroad. Other than that, one of the article's sources claims members of the royal family think Meghan wants to run for POTUS, which tells me these 'sources' are delusional

We already knew that they were going to spend a lot of time abroad working for the Commonwealth, but what the article is talking about is basically sending them off somewhere on a somewhat permanent basis to harness their power of popularity for the U.K., but also dimming their presence in the U.K. (out of sight, out of mind mentality).

This also tells me that some of the courtiers if this is true (who knows, Roya does have sources) are so out of touch. SM anyone...?

Osipi 04-20-2019 09:23 PM

All I can say is that these stories and rumors and gossip about feuding and discontent, backstabbing and the behind the scenes machinations against each other to come out on top reminds me more of a beauty queen pageant scene than it does a family dedicated to working for the good of the monarchy.

The "ship the Sussex family off abroad" scenario sounds like it was heisted from the "what to do with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor" during WWII to keep the man from causing mayhem. He became the Governor General of the Bahamas keeping him away from the battleground that was to be Europe at the time.

Think I'm going to start a vigil looking for the Easter Bunny to hop on by. A quest for chocolate is a far more pleasant past time than dwelling on infighting within the BRF. :biggrin:

Curryong 04-20-2019 09:30 PM

I do believe that senior advisers at KP, BP and possibly CH have been viewing the Sussex phenomenon (both positive and negative) with concern since the wedding. There was perhaps a hope that with the splitting of the Households (which effectively shuffled Harry and Meghan off to BP,) that the emphasis and focus of the media would shift, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I bet they wish it was back in the 1940s and Harry could be offered a GG role in Australia or Canada, leaving the limelight on the Cambridges in the UK. Impossible now!

King of the Jungle 04-20-2019 09:46 PM

If Harry and Meghan were to work abroad for more months of each year - under the umbrella of working for the Commonwealth or an African charity - I think it would be at their own suggestion. It could be exciting and worthwhile work. Media would love it.
I don't beleive the brothers don't get along but they have forged their own paths and their own families, like grown ups do.

O-H Anglophile 04-20-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Curryong (Post 2212931)
I do believe that senior advisers at KP, BP and possibly CH have been viewing the Sussex phenomenon (both positive and negative) with concern since the wedding. There was perhaps a hope that with the splitting of the Households (which effectively shuffled Harry and Meghan off to BP,) that the emphasis and focus of the media would shift, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I bet they wish it was back in the 1940s and Harry could be offered a GG role in Australia or Canada, leaving the limelight on the Cambridges in the UK. Impossible now!

Why would the focus of the media change? William and family are relatively boring and do not bring much attention to themselves, so not much to write about. Meghan is new and is exciting just by being different and unexpected in a number of ways. Add to that the rivalry stories, which have been a RR staple for years and years, and cha-ching$

Dman 04-20-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2212910)
None of this rings true...are you guys really buying into this?


LaRae

Nope, but these palace officials haven’t done much of anything to stop these terrible rumors from snowballing. Such a sad thing for a pregnant woman to have to go through.

Fijiro 04-20-2019 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ista (Post 2212892)
It's behind a paywall. Anyone want to take a stab at summarizing the high points?

here is the article
https://pagesix.com/2019/04/20/palac...han-to-africa/

JuliannaVictoria 04-20-2019 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fijiro (Post 2212942)

That's a mere summary of the 1st article. The 2nd article puts everything into perspective.

Ista 04-20-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fijiro (Post 2212942)

Thank you for posting that.

sndral 04-21-2019 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi (Post 2212928)
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The "ship the Sussex family off abroad" scenario sounds like it was heisted from the "what to do with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor" during WWII to keep the man from causing mayhem. He became the Governor General of the Bahamas keeping him away from the battleground that was to be Europe at the time.
...

Interesting parallel, sending the Windsors to the Bahamas for the duration of the war happened for several reasons, not least of which was that the Duke was behaving in a way that was hindering the war effort. Refusing to recognize the Duchess as an HRH resulted in the Windsors not living in the U.K., which suited King George VI and Queen Elizabeth as it assured that David, who had been immensely popular, did not eclipse his brother.
The difference now is that with the world wide reach of the press, you can’t find a place far enough away to banish the Sussexes to, because wherever they go the press will be sure to follow. I don’t believe the RF or their courtiers are naive enough to think they can diminish the attention the Sussexes get by sending them elsewhere. Rather, they are trying to come up with the best way to capitalize on the charismatic couple. I assumed when Meghan had her wedding veil embroidered with flowers from all of the commonwealth countries that they were sending a strong signal they’d be heavily involved in cementing the ties within the commonwealth, a subject close to the Queen’s heart.
Harry has always had more charisma than William. Harry, who actually served in a battle zone, who passionately and successfully advocated for his causes. William never seemed perturbed by Harry’s success before, why would it change now?
Prince Andrew was once a dashing Falkland war hero and Princess Margaret was far more glamorous than her staid and careful sister, the Queen. They each had their moment in the sun, but ultimately, the steadfastness of the Queen has triumphed in the affections of her people. Likewise, I suspect, the ‘boring,’ ‘predictable’ Cambridges will serve their subjects and the monarchy well.


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