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Winnie 03-15-2019 10:50 AM

When push comes to shove, this is the way the Queen and Prince Charles wants it for now. They make the rules for the firm and others are expected to follow. I don't believe there is any other person that needs to know why or should care. It just is because the Queen says so. She decides the position and privilege of each and they work accordingly. It always reminds be of a military operation with the Majesty as General and the ranks follow exactly in their appointed and birth position. Her family can live anywhere with her approval but as far as their public appearances or work for the firm, she will know prior and approve. If not, I am sure it will be their last goof-up.

Pranter 03-15-2019 11:00 AM

The Sussexes will likely never be minor Royals within our lifetime (depending on your current age, but I'd guess most of us here are over 30/40). I don't foresee them becoming less visible until George is King and by that point the Sussexes will likely be over 70.


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Ista 03-15-2019 11:06 AM

I think it might depend on the definition of "minor royals" that is being used. If you are looking at "minor" as being someone who is unlikely to succeed to the throne because of birth order, then that covers everyone except Charles and William and his children. If you are looking at it as amount of work done + visibility, then it gets quite a bit broader. Either way, I don't think it matters much. No one does anything at all except with the approval of the monarch or her office.

Marlo 03-15-2019 11:50 AM

Last Nov, KP said, "the Duke and Duchess's office will continue to be based at Kensington Palace". Last month, Jason Knauf denied that he will concentrate only on William and Kate.

I think Meghan and Harry have zero confidence in Jason.

According to Emily Andrews, ""last night palace sources insisted the move was nothing to do with Meghan and Harry losing confidence in Knauf"

Osipi 03-15-2019 12:02 PM

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I'm in agreement with Ms. Andrews on this. There is no underlying personal reasons for any of the changes that have been made in establishing the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's own household and office staff other than its a preemptive strike. Things, as has been stated before, are in a period of soft transition from monarch to monarch and the "Firm" doesn't do anything on a whim or based on tabloid fodder or any other reason than it is fast becoming a necessity for Harry and Meghan to have their own staff focusing on their needs alone.

The "Firm" looks ahead and sees what will be needed and plans for it. Nothing is left to chance or done haphazardly.

loonytick 03-15-2019 01:27 PM

They're in the soft transition from monarch to monarch, but also in a very definite and clear transition from William and Harry's households being three part-time working royals two four full-time, which is a very big difference in the amount of support needed from staff. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for there to have been honest disagreement and discussion about how long KP could continue to handle the heavier workload, with some in KP's staff leadership being very eager to grow their office as one way of feeling that their importance had increased, with others saying, "no, now is the time to let the existing KP staff turn focus solely on the Cambridges because that will soon be a twice the job than what KP had been doing just a year or two ago."

And as they move more truly into full-time work, William and Harry's (and, by extension, their wives') have increasingly different jobs requiring different kinds of support and focus from their staff. Those in the throne's direct line are always used in a sort of "jack-of-all-trades" capacity (within the royal "trades," that is), while siblings and their spouses are allowed, to some degree, to dig in deep in an area of focus (for example: trade and philanthropy for Andrew, Save the Children for Anne). The BP staff has a lot of experience with that, and they're set up to juggle the needs of many royals at once. KP has startled to juggle more in the past little while, but it and CH are, I think, better suited to being laser focused on one heir's household and its needs.

Lumutqueen 03-15-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by soapstar (Post 2204126)



So will the Royal Family account be the one handling their social media now?



https://twitter.com/re_dailymail/sta...555098112?s=21

Looks like William and Catherine will have KP and Henry and Meghan will come either under The Royal Family or have their own social media accounts. I personally would like to see the first option.

Osipi 03-15-2019 02:57 PM

What I'd really, really like to know is why there is even a need for a "problem"? Why can't this move just be something that is necessary for a couple that is taking on more and more full time royal duties and seen as a progressive move without feudin', dissin', arguin', hollerin', mudslingin' and whatever else has been assumed to be a cause?

ACO 03-15-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2204405)
https://twitter.com/re_dailymail/sta...555098112?s=21

Looks like William and Catherine will have KP and Henry and Meghan will come either under The Royal Family or have their own social media accounts. I personally would like to see the first option.

I hope for their own social media. I also hope they stop updating anything Sussex on KP until the change happens and just use the royal family accounts.

Just cut the cord.

Lemon Lyman 03-15-2019 03:38 PM

I hope they just use the royal family social media. I would hope that will reduce the direct focus for some of the trolls. Their own social media will just give them more fodder to feed the nastiness

Dman 03-15-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi (Post 2204411)
What I'd really, really like to know is why there is even a need for a "problem"? Why can't this move just be something that is necessary for a couple that is taking on more and more full time royal duties and seen as a progressive move without feudin', dissin', arguin', hollerin', mudslingin' and whatever else has been assumed to be a cause?

Well, no matter how much we would like to ignore the nonsense, it was predicted by many of us and others that the press and others online would stir up this false narrative once William and Harry got married and roles started to grow. Once May, 19th 2018 was over with, it was showtime from the press point of view.

There’s nothing juicy and salacious about the Cambridge’s and Sussex’s preparing for the “Firm’s” transition to the next reign. That’s considered boring. So a juicy and salacious story have to be invented about the royal couple’s personal relationship. Something to fill the online news sites. Clickbait. Period. Who don’t want to read some royal gossip?

Marlo 03-15-2019 04:08 PM

Well, it was in the November release from KP announcing the split and last month Roya said there would still be some shared KP staff along with dedicated staff for Sussexes and Cambridges. Something has changed.

ACO 03-15-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Lyman (Post 2204419)
I hope they just use the royal family social media. I would hope that will reduce the direct focus for some of the trolls. Their own social media will just give them more fodder to feed the nastiness

Trolls will troll regardless.

I think them hiring their own press secretary instead of just using one of the ones at BP kind of signals their own pages will be created. We will see though.

Lumutqueen 03-15-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ACO (Post 2204412)
I hope for their own social media. I also hope they stop updating anything Sussex on KP until the change happens and just use the royal family accounts.

Just cut the cord.

If they did stop using KP and switched to TRF, then why then create their own social media accounts afterwards? A lot of back of house work has to be done before the move which is why we've been given "Spring" as a timetable for the move.

Also, personally, having their own media sets a precedent for the future, I think combining them under the TRF Social Media allows for the same style of communication across the board, no special treatment persee.

We also have the announcement of Baby Sussex within this time frame of unknown and that's going to be huge, so they better get their acts together PR wise.

tommy100 03-15-2019 04:37 PM

I don't think think this is anything more than tidying up what has always been an anomaly in terms of royal households. Every other working royal/couple has their own household based at BP or for some of the cousins St James'.
The Sussex's sharing with William and Kate was never going to be long term so it makes sense that like the other royals their household is based at BP and to an extent under the oversight of the Queen's staff. That leaves both future Kings with their own independent Household while all other royals come under the Queen's.
In regards to whether other royals have their own Communications staff - I believe at one point Andrew did.

I don't this as a demotion or promotion just the royals and their staff getting on with things as they always have been done.

Osipi 03-15-2019 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlo (Post 2204434)
Well, it was in the November release from KP announcing the split and last month Roya said there would still be some shared KP staff along with dedicated staff for Sussexes and Cambridges. Something has changed.

What has changed is that the Queen (with Charles) made decisions in relation to the "Firm" and has announced it publicly. Its probably been in the works for quite a while already and the good time to announce the plans was at the time when Meghan will be more or less taking it easy until she gives birth.

Contrary to popular opinion, the media and the royal reporters and Aunt Prissy's constantly babbling African Gray parrot are not privileged to knowing the inner workings and decisions of the "Firm" although they do like to pretend they are. Last I've heard, they've still not mastered how to morph into the proverbial fly on the wall. :biggrin:

ACO 03-15-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2204444)
If they did stop using KP and switched to TRF, then why then create their own social media accounts afterwards? A lot of back of house work has to be done before the move which is why we've been given "Spring" as a timetable for the move.

Also, personally, having their own media sets a precedent for the future, I think combining them under the TRF Social Media allows for the same style of communication across the board, no special treatment persee.

We also have the announcement of Baby Sussex within this time frame of unknown and that's going to be huge, so they better get their acts together PR wise.

Why not? It’s not as if their household is fully established yet. They will likely both be missing in action most of May and probably June. Then it’s the summer slump. So a few posts of Harry’s engagements here and there is no big deal. The official royal family account posts about everyone anyways including Tbises with their own accounts. I’m of the opinion there is no need to use Kensington Palace anymore. Just have the official account update us on Baby Sussex. Or establish their own during this time. It would actually be a great way to launch it.

Iluvbertie 03-15-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dman (Post 2204357)
No, their not minor royals. They’re senior royals. It is impressive that their official office is where the Monarch and future Monarch headquarters are located. Also, they will be to conduct their official palace engagements at Buckingham Palace.

At some point we’ll be hearing about Meghan appointing a Lady in Waiting to help her in her royal role. I expect the same from Catherine, too. This is all part of the transition, which we all know is getting closer.

The minor royals all have their offices at BP.

Senior royals have independent offices not at BP but at their own homes - William and Charles.

Minor royals are those who are not the future King. Andrew was first described as a minor royal when William was born - when he was pushed from 2nd to 3rd in line to the throne. Harry is now 6th.

Moving his office into the same set-up as Andrew, Edward and Anne's is a clear showing of his place in the scheme of things ... not important enough to have an independent office of his own.

The clear distinction between the future Kings and the rest of the BRF is being made here. This is a clear move into the next reign - independence for William and lesser royal status for Harry.

Osipi 03-15-2019 06:20 PM

My opinion is that Harry and Meghan are best off sticking with the Royal Family website/social media. This is the place that just recently enforced rules and guidelines for those that participate and IMO, its probably what Harry and Meghan themselves would want. They've had enough troubles with social media already that if it was me, I'd be totally turned off of using it at all. The releases there will pertain to their public roles and their special announcements such as the birth of their child.

I had to laugh at how I read Lumutqueen's post about using the TRF site. First reaction was "yeps.. that's the ticket... have *our* moderators handle things and show the trolls what's what." Then it clicked that she meant The Royal FAMILY and not FORUMS. :rofl:

I think my mind needs a nap. :biggrin:

Fijiro 03-15-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2204444)
If they did stop using KP and switched to TRF, then why then create their own social media accounts afterwards? A lot of back of house work has to be done before the move which is why we've been given "Spring" as a timetable for the move.

Also, personally, having their own media sets a precedent for the future, I think combining them under the TRF Social Media allows for the same style of communication across the board, no special treatment persee.

We also have the announcement of Baby Sussex within this time frame of unknown and that's going to be huge, so they better get their acts together PR wise.



Prince Andrew has his own social media. So Harry and Meghan having their own social media is not unprecedented. I hope H&M get their own social medial.

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