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TLLK 07-09-2018 11:16 AM

https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...46523938648064


So according to the announcement, guests will be served slices of christening cake which is from one of the tiers of the Cambridge wedding cake. Thank goodness there was still enough left from George and Charlotte's christenings!

_Heather_ 07-09-2018 11:16 AM

Agreed that it might have been prudent to release that information prior to today to avoid the intense speculation that is currently making the rounds. I'm seeing quite a bit of speculation regarding the nature of their absence, the groundwork being laid for transition, etc.

Looking forward to seeing the video and pictures from today...fingers crossed for some sweet interaction between Uncle Harry and the children.

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130780)
I am very surprised, somewhat shocked even, that the Queen and DoE are not attending the Christening....I can't imagine any reason for them not to. Ill health has been denied, they aren't out of the country etc. This is just very strange to me.
LaRae


Yes. I love the Queen, but when it comes to attending events by herself or family members abroad and, nowadays even at home, the BRF is, let´s say, "unique" among all other european royal courts, if not even eccentric... :whistling::whistling::whistling:

Archduchess Zelia 07-09-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130808)
Different situation. Peter and Autumn live as private people. William is the heir of the heir. Louis's brother will be a King.



LaRae

So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.

Pranter 07-09-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130814)
So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.


Has nothing to do with importance or that Peter is less than William.

As I said...Peter and his family are private citizens. William and his family are not. Yes it is surprising that the Queen is not there for the Christening for a child of a future King.


LaRae

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130808)
Different situation. Peter and Autumn live as private people. William is the heir of the heir. Louis's brother will be a King.

LaRae


Are we talking about succession or an important family event? I cannot think of any other reason for great-grandparents NOT to attend their gr grgandchild´ s christening other than a poor health!

Even more so when the great grandmother bears the title "defender of the faith" and is the worldly head of a church! To all christians claiming to be devout, a christening IS a very important occasion, no matter if you make a state affair of it (Sweden) or if it is a more private thing (Spain, Britain, Belgium).

Marchesina 07-09-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130814)
So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.

I am sure the BRF cares for the christening very much (especially HM who has always been portrayed as a very devout christian). But some royal families consider christenings a private event rather than a State occasion with dignitaries, politicians and other personalities invited, the way Scandivian royals do.

cdm 07-09-2018 11:38 AM

Doesn’t the BRF have private christenings for all their members?

Archduchess Zelia 07-09-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130816)
Has nothing to do with importance or that Peter is less than William.

As I said...Peter and his family are private citizens. William and his family are not. Yes it is surprising that the Queen is not there for the Christening for a child of a future King.


LaRae

Correct, William and his family are not private citizens but the christening is private. So sure, it may be surprising that she isn't gonna be there if you'd anticipated she'd be there but it's not weird – just shows that she doesn't rank her great-grandchildren's importance according to their place in the line of succession.

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Originally Posted by Marchesina (Post 2130819)
I am sure the BRF cares for the christening very much (especially HM who has always been portrayed as a very devout christian). But some royal families consider christenings a private event rather than a State occasion with dignitaries, politicians and other personalities invited, the way Scandivian royals do.

And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cdm (Post 2130820)
Doesn’t the BRF have private christenings for all their members?

More or less so. The christenings themselves are never filmed or televised, there are only official photographs released a few days later (never from the christening act itself).

Pranter 07-09-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130823)
And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.

The why has already been stated.


LaRae

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130823)
And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.


Well, the thing about the christenings being "private" or not do not count for me. If gr grandparents are in proper health, why then shouldn´ t they attend (except may be if there is a family feud)?
When the Queen didn´t attend 6 years ago I find that quite odd, too. If my great granny would not come to my child´ s christening, I´d be very upset!

Marika86 07-09-2018 11:59 AM

Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter Guests arrive for Prince Louis’s christening https://twitter.com/i/status/1016334845776203778

Marchesina 07-09-2018 12:01 PM

No live broadcast of the arrivals from Skynews this time?

Dman 07-09-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchesina (Post 2130832)
No live broadcast of the arrivals from Skynews this time?

Don’t seem like it.

Moonmaiden23 07-09-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TLLK (Post 2130809)
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...46523938648064


So according to the announcement, guests will be served slices of christening cake which is from one of the tiers of the Cambridge wedding cake. Thank goodness there was still enough left from George and Charlotte's christenings!

I cannot believe they are still serving up slices of the Cambridge wedding cake circa 2011.:sick:

I hope that's a misprint.

jacqui24 07-09-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23 (Post 2130837)
I cannot believe they are still serving up slices of the Cambridge wedding cake circa 2011.:sick:

I hope that's a misprint.

It's not. I know fruitcake last a long time, but I feel like there should be expiration date for all food items. It's well past time.

camelot23ca 07-09-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wartenberg7 (Post 2130828)
Well, the thing about the christenings being "private" or not do not count for me. If gr grandparents are in proper health, why then shouldn´ t they attend (except may be if there is a family feud)?
When the Queen didn´t attend 6 years ago I find that quite odd, too. If my great granny would not come to my child´ s christening, I´d be very upset!

But different families have different priorities and attach various amounts of importance to attendance at events like this. My grandmother is a little younger than the Queen and my first child is actually being baptized later this month. I wouldn’t think twice if she decided it was too much for her to attend the ceremony. And she’s nowhere near as busy or as active as the Queen.

In terms of the Queen’s great grandchildren, there’s George and then there’s everyone else. It would have been unacceptable for the Queen to miss the christening of a future monarch, IMO. On the other hand I think it’s perfectly acceptable to make the decision for the other children on a purely personal basis, whether the child in question is royal or not. It doesn’t mean that Louis or Isla are less important to Elizabeth and Philip, their great grandparents. But they’re not future monarchs and their christenings don’t demand the institutional presence of The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh.

Pranter 07-09-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2130839)
It's not. I know fruitcake last a long time, but I feel like there should be expiration date for all food items. It's well past time.

When you freeze foods it does extend the dates on things. I'm sure they have it wrapped and done up right.



LaRae

jacqui24 07-09-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130842)
When you freeze foods it does extend the dates on things. I'm sure they have it wrapped and done up right.



LaRae

I don't doubt it, but still...yicky. 7 years. That's a long time.


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