Kensington Palace @KensingtonRoyal Members of the Royal Family arrive at St James's Palace for the christening of Prince Louis. https://twitter.com/i/status/1016340563623333888
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It's quite common for fruit cake to last a long long time. They re-marzipan and ice though.
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Christening of Prince Louis of Cambridge: July 9, 2018
Fruitcake can last ages with loads of booze in it though most people seem to dislike it these days so probably won’t rush to eat it.
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I love the Duchesse´ s head piece! So much prettier than these small hats whose brims are located much in front of the forehead, almost down to the nose.
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I like that Carole, Pippa, Lucy and Charlotte all wore light blue. Family unity between the ladies.
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Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh are not attending Prince Louis’s christening this afternoon. I understand that was mutually agreed some time ago and the Cambridges are “relaxed” about it. Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter Why isn’t the Queen going to Prince Louis’s christening? I’ve spoken to a couple of sources and the explanation seems to be it’s another busy week for the monarch at 92. She has the RAF centenary tomorrow, a meeting with President Trump on Friday and audiences in between. -------------------- And to the christening: Prince Louis’s big day as royals gather for christening - updates from ITV ITN video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMLkAuQt7w |
As others have mentioned, the Queen and the Duke are old. Not just old. They're both very very old. They need more time to recover from things and to rest up. People online act like they're in their 70's or something. To be walking unaided is an amazing thing for people in their age bracket, let alone doing more than 1 engagement a week.
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:previous: Exactly!
BTW, I have updated the above post with an ITN video of the arrivals. |
Based on Camilla fanning herself when leaving, I bet it was quite warm. That may have been a factor too for HM and Prince Philip.
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:previous: Well IMO, it has more to do with the fact that she (at the great age of 92) has been taking it easy in Norfolk with her 97 (almost 100)- year-old husband, before heading back to Windsor today. - There she will stay until tomorrow, when she vill be back in London for another busy week, not bad. :smile:
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It wasn't just HM and DoE who didn't show. I didn't see some of the spouses of the godparents - Mr. Meade, Mrs. van Cutsem and Mrs. Aubrey-Fletcher.
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Well, it is a Monday and thus a work day. If folks have regular jobs, doesn’t make much sense to take time off for a christening if you are not the actual godparent yourself
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I'm not at all shocked that the Queen didn't attend. As others have said, she has a busy week ahead of her. Plus she has missed a christening before, so this isn't anything new.
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Some photos of the Cambridges. Louis is adorable: https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...52537128128512 Coverage of the christening from the DM. I'm looking forward to the official portraits. Prince Louis christening is attended by William, Kate, George and Charlotte | Daily Mail Online |
I like that some music from the Cambridge and the Prince and Princess of Wales’s royal weddings were performed for the christening. William and Harry always make sure to incorporate special family memories into their lives.
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The baby looks like his older brother.
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I think this is another illustration of the Queen letting Charles take over her duties. At Charlotte's christening, Charles was so low key that some asked if he was even in attendance.
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Lovely photos from Louis's christening today, I look forward into the official ones. I can't quite tell who Louis looks like, though when he was born I thought he looked like Charlotte as a baby. Charlotte was very sweet in the video when she shook hands. She doesn't seem afraid of the limelight at all :smile:
Whilst it is disappointing that HM and Philip weren't there, I would understand their reasonings for not being there. They're both in their 90's so will struggle with the heat more so I also agree with those who think that the weather might have been a factor of their absence. (I mean, I'm a lot younger than they are and even I struggled in the heat whilst out and about yesterday.) Quote:
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It did look quite hot. Part of staying as active and healthy as the queen in one's 90s is knowing when to take a pass and not subject yourself to conditions that could leave you needing an overlong period of rest and recovery. My husband's grandmother is in fantastic shape for a 102 year old woman, but by this age I'm pretty sure she would have stayed home from a summertime christening in an non-airconditioned space and instead made a point of inviting family over to her well-cooled home for a special time soon afterwards.
I think the point about letting Prince Charles be the most senior family member present is an important one, too. He's waiting a long time to be monarch, still taking a back seat to her at these ceremonies whenever she's present. In a small way, it's something of a gift from her to let him enjoy the prominence at an event of special meaning and importance that would usually be hers: being the one who gets to sit in the seat of honor that would otherwise be reserved for her, to be the one to whom the Archbishop, etc. |
Something that stood out to me is that sweet George and Charlotte really are at ages where they look quite drastically different each time they are seen. :) Comparing today's pictures to that of the DoS wedding, you'd have thought there must have been at least a year in-between. Cuties!
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They both did a very good job today. Charlotte is getting the most attention for shaking hands because she was more visible from the point of view of the cameras, but on the videos it looked to me that the clergy both got handshakes from him with no problem, too. You could see in each case that the shook her hand first then turned to George, and I think I could hear William telling George "good job" after the second. We've seen him be shy about handshakes in the past, but now that his more gregarious younger sister is old enough for those greetings, perhaps it's wise for a little while to have her go first so he can warm up to the idea as he watches her. Won't it be interesting to see how little Louis's personality shines through in these moments once he's old enough? |
Charlotte is such a doll! Reminds me of my own little granddaughter with her personality.
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I'm at a loss to decide just who Charlotte looks like. In some pictures, I'd swear she's Kate's mini me and then in others I see William's face in a little girl's face. Both Charlotte and George are just absolutely too cute for words and I love seeing "Daddy" holding their hands and ushering them into the chapel for the christening. The Cambridges are a totally delightful family.
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Personally, if I was HM, I'd head to the place where its apt to be the coolest. ;)
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:previous: I for one, thinks she would've gone to Windsor, even if it had been 100 degrees there. :lol:
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Princess Charlotte as always the star of the show!
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Interesting - Charlotte's handshake is much publicized, undoubtedly because it feeds the narrative already created by the press that she is the 'friendly,' 'outgoing,' 'confident' one; whereas George's handshake is ignored, probably because he is already being cast by the press as the 'reserved,' 'shy,' and/or 'petulant' child.
Who knows how accurate these assumptions are about the children's personalities since they are based on small snippets of time in very public places. |
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George and Charlotte shaking hands- World of Windsor : britishheirs: Prince*George and Princess Charlotte... Video: Princess Charlotte talking to the photographers- World of Windsor : britishheirs: Prince*George and Princess Charlotte... |
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It’s easy to see it that way now, but if my memory of accounts is correct, when they were younger it was William who was more outgoing / comfortable with the public attention, and Harry who was shyer - Harry, I believe, always had a bit of a cheeky streak to him, but he was more in his brother’s shadow. This changed when they got older as the press attention changed during the War of the Wales’, and in the aftermath of Diana’s death. William’s “shyness” is more him being more reserved with the public than his brother. Charlotte is a bit of a character, and it kind of reminds me of old videos of William - although, that is biased, as we don’t have videos of what Kate was like at that age. |
:previous: The George/Charlotte scenario reminds me of the Charles/Anne scenario from so long ago. I've tried to find the old film of Charles and Anne playing with the monkeys on Gilbralter but can't locate it on YouTube. As presented and so clearly in evidence, Charles was the shy, hesitant one, Anne the daredevil. :flowers:
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I totally agree! We will be reassured about the health of HM when we see her (and possible also the DoE), later in the week. They are simply pacing themselves, and as we've been informed, it has been discussed with the Cambridges in advance, and they are content with the arrangement. And although I love to see HM and the DoE out and about, it was nice to see the Cambridges and their 'immediate' family and friends take centre-stage today. |
Congratulations Cambridge Family
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It's unfortunate the Queen and Prince Philip weren't able to attend but it was a very happy occasion. I think we can safely assume that Charlotte is an extravert. It was kind of touching to watch George starting to realize that Mom wouldn't be able to hold his hand all the time now. He handled it well, but I thought it was obvious that it was new to him. He's going to have to get used to being the big kid in the family-it's part of life.
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:previous: I know that of course! :smile:
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The biggest surprise for me was that Daddy looked less-than-thrilled in the majority of the photos.
Part of it, I am sure was photo selection. But Catherine looked transcendently radiant while Will looked like he was trapped holding onto two forces of nature, just waiting for it all to go sideways. Harry was also a bit gloomy. Handsome group overall. |
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I wonder why the court only announced what wasn't the reason for not attending instead of the reason (probably along the lines of "due to the duke's (old) age and the queen's busy schedule it was decided...")
Catherine looked radiant on all but one picture. William was making sure all went well with the older kids in front of the cameras. I still don't like this private chtistening thing as to me this is something that should be celebrated among the church community (parish) that a family belongs but apparently that's not the BRF's reasoning. |
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https://www.eonline.com/de/news/4738...fficial-photos Prince Harry did not appear in Princess Charlotte's christening photo because he was on an overseas trip: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-in-pictures/ So now for Prince Louis, with both Pippa and Harry married, their spouses are bound to be in the official photo I would imagine, but the Queen and Prince Philip won't be. Perhaps another official portrait will be taken at a later date with the Cambridges and QE II & Pip. There's probably separate photos taken of the Cambridges with all of the godparents. Here's video Below with commentary by Royal Reviewer re details of the christening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RezdffFONX4 |
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There's video of Harry and Meghan laughing ....William had some big smiles too.
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It was interesting to learn that Prince Louis' christening cake is a tier of cake taken from his parents' wedding cake.
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Lovely event and little prince Louis is gorgeous as is his whole family. I was surprised at Carole and pippa dresses, both emphasizing a gathered bust which did nothing for either of them. Usually they are so well turned out
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My all time favorite Royal/Princely baptism was in Monaco with Prince Jacques and Princess Gabriella. The Heir was proclaimed and he and his sister received into the Church in a gorgeous joyous spectacle that seemed as grand as it was intimate with tears of joy and literal dancing in the street by the Monagasques. It was perfect.:smile: |
How to be a good Godparent:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/li...ual-sage-good/ |
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Clearly as she attended the baptisms of Mia and Savannah, the queen doesn't base such choices on succession to the throne. |
I understand it is a private event, and It looks very small, just the close relatives? or the press didn't show the rest? Also wonder how did the celebrated? a lunch , dinner? something simple or elaborate, where? etcc…...
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Kate looked beautiful so happy. What a lovely family
I don’t think Harry is looking gloomy just a couple of photos not smiling |
Of course the great-grandchildren who are much closer to the throne are more "important" to the Queen than the others - for the simple reason that she is not just Gan-Gan, she is the monarch and head of state. She's also a monarch who, along with her father, was not considered likely to accede to the throne, so she knows lines of accession don't always happen according to plan.
The christening of Charlotte and Louis are fundamentally different types of event than for Mia Tindall, for example. The Queen has seen fit to ensure that they are HRH from birth. It is an official occasion, with KP announcing attendees, the Archbishop of Canterbury officiating and official video and pictures released. All of the above makes it more strange that the Queen was not there. This was a very short event, in an official royal palace so no public to be dealt with and HM could've jumped in her helicopter and back to Windsor in minutes. It's very odd to me. |
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But in Belgim we got some pics and Videos from inside the Chapel (for the children of Philippe and Mathilde) nand it was not so small and private like in Britain. |
The Chapel seats about forty people, I believe. Centuries ago people probably crowded in and stood rather than sat.
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But for yestedays christening and the one of George there where also no TV Cameras or photgraphers inside. |
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Logistically there is no point to travel from Norfolk to Windsor and next day (in early morning!) travel from Windsor in London. |
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Well, new or not, (and I´ m not "shocked" at all) this is at least a bit strange (on the contrary, I think it´ s even more strange she did so the 2nd time...). On the other hand just another example that this RF handles things quite different than "normal", ordinary families or most other royal families. |
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The chapel at St James is not my favourite one used by the British RF but it is nice and private.
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I think almost all the private chapels in royal palaces were probably quite small and cosy affairs, just built for the RF and their senior attendants.
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Queen Victoria's diary entry about her wedding actually gives a lot of logistical information about how they would arrange everything for ceremonies in that chapel. It seems that primarily close family were in the chapel with Victoria and Albert, but they also had seating set up for guests in several other rooms in the palace and she processed through those rooms on the way into the service. At first glance, it seems strange to have guests in other rooms, but when you think about it, without television monitors and microphones, most of the people at, say, Harry and Meghan's wedding in St. George's wouldn't have been able to see or hear much beyond the procession, so there wasn't really any expectation that the bulk of a wedding guests be able to truly witness the vow exchange.
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I read that a tier of their wedding cake was served, how is preserve a 7 yar old cake? I would be scare to eat!
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I’ve heard that’s quite a thing. Frankly I would just have a new one made in the same flavour. Much tastier. Didn’t they have a fruit cake layer for their wedding cake? That lasts ages apparently.
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I'm not sure if this has been reported on, but apparently Charlotte told the photographers "you're not coming" as she was arriving to Louis's christening yesterday :biggrin::
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I remember reading something about William getting into an argument or disagreement with another child at his nursery and Diana having to apologise to the child's parents, but I can't remember where I read that. I think, as someone else said, William was more outgoing when he was younger but now Harry is portrayed as the livelier one since teenage/adulthood. |
Mitre christening videos
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMLkAuQt7w&t=21s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GGB4gguj90s* |
I know the British royals don’t show royal christening to the public, but I would love to see an old fashioned palace christening. Like in the Buckingham Palace Music Room. Louis’s grandfather, The Prince of Wales, was christened there.
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Just for the perspective on outgoingness: George was waving today as well behind the window (not an enormous full arm wave as done by Charlotte but a proper forearm wave) |
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:previous:I agree Lady Nimue. As any parent has likely experienced, your pre-schooler is inquisitive and is likely to share whatever is on their mind. Charlotte like any child that age is still learning to communicate and will continue to learn about appropriate and inappropriate statements and observations for years to come. :smile:
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You know that William and Kate must of had a chuckle about what she said later on...I would of!
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It also struck me that at that young age, whenever Charlotte finds herself in a large group (extended family) they do indeed show up at the party. :flowers: So for all she knew, that group in the courtyard could have been extended family. Ha! ;)
Being a gregarious sort, she may have even been looking forward to meeting them all. After all, she gave them the most appealing lingering look all the way to the doorway. She looked oh-so-curious! She most definitely has an affinity for the great unknown the press represents (though she hardly understands who they are at this point). But on some level (I think) she recognizes them as 'her people'. I'm teasing, but one never knows! Give it 10 years! |
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When people preserve the cake with its dried fruits for a future christening it's placed in an airtight box and every now and again taken out and given 'a watering' with some brandy or sherry. Many renew the icing and marzipan before the christening. These cakes really are delicious, but unfortunately they're going out of favour with modern brides. |
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Well, this was actually an old fashioned Palace christening, just in another Palace (St James´s instead of BP). Those Music room christenings only took place there for a couple of times (I think William´s was the last one) because the chapel of Buck. Palace was destroyed during WW2. I think it is quite proper to have a christening being held in a real sacred place like a church or a chapel, which the music room is not. What I would call "old fashioned" and really grand are the christenings of the children) of Victoria and Albert, the parents arrayed in their Garter robes, The Queen wearing a diadem, and the ceromony taking place in W. Abbey or at Windsor! |
I don't think any of Victoria and Abert's children were christened in Westminster Abbey. Nor are royals christened there today.
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So I guess the official portraits should be released on Saturday?
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We all know no royal children are christened in WA these days - if they ever did. Still, the christenings, especially of the eldest children of the monarch, were well and true state occasions at St. George´ s chapel like this detailed report from the christening of the later Edward VII tells us: The Christening Of Albert Edward, Prince Of Wales | History And Other Thoughts https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/s...?itok=Xh--i8In |
Let's stay on topic...which is the Christening of Prince Louis of Cambridge.
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Christening pics will be released tonight (for tomorrow’s papers)
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Everyone looks nice. Sweet pictures.
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