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principessa 06-20-2018 06:33 AM

Christening of Prince Louis of Cambridge: July 9, 2018
 
Kensington Palace just has announced that Prince Louis will be christened on 09-07-2018 at The Chapel Royal, St. James's Palace

https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/...67871951134721

An Ard Ri 06-20-2018 07:57 AM

The ceremony will be performed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Rudolph 06-20-2018 09:22 AM

I’m thinking maybe Princess Eugenie for a godparent.

muriel 06-21-2018 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 2125304)
I’m thinking maybe Princess Eugenie for a godparent.

Any particular reason for suggesting Eugenie?

Rudolph 06-21-2018 07:42 AM

It’s nothing more than a feeling. William and Catherine seem to get along quite well with Eugenie. She’s also a friend of Pippa and James.

_Heather_ 06-21-2018 12:50 PM

I, too, suspect that we might see Princess Eugenie as a godparent. Either Eugenie or Peter Phillips seem likely choices.

Pranter 06-21-2018 01:09 PM

Maybe Harry or Meghan will pop up as one.


LaRae

Zonk 06-21-2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2125705)
Maybe Harry or Meghan will pop up as one.


LaRae

I don't think so.

So far, they haven't picked ANY siblings to be a godparent to either George or Charlotte. I think they feel as aunts/uncles they will already have a role in the life of their niece/nephew.

Not Meghan either IMO. They like her (or might) but I think they have known other people longer that might fit the role.

Rudolph 06-25-2018 02:05 PM

Prince Louis’s christening will take place at 4pm on Monday 9th July at St James’s Palace #princelouis

Via Roya Nikkhah Twitter

HRHDuchessofAlbany 06-27-2018 07:14 PM

I'd like to see Princess Anne. I think a senior Royal would be a good addition to the good parent list. I doubt it but it would be nice.

CyrilVladisla 06-27-2018 10:20 PM

A godparent from the Spencer side of the family would be nice. Perhaps Louis Spencer, Viscount Althorp as a godfather.

Countessmeout 06-27-2018 11:21 PM

:previous: Laura Fellowes (Sarah's daughter) is Charlotte's godmother. They have chosen a cousin from both sides of William's family. Zara was for George.

Be interesting to see what family they choose if any now. Cant technically rule out Harry/Pippa/James. William had no close relatives (a first cousin twice removed and a second cousin once removed) but then Harry had his Uncle Andrew. But I doubt we will see them.

miss whirley 06-28-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HRHDuchessofAlbany (Post 2127700)
I'd like to see Princess Anne. I think a senior Royal would be a good addition to the good parent list. I doubt it but it would be nice.

Anne would be an interesting choice since she said George's birth "has nothing to do with me". :lol: She's probably even less interested in Louis, as he isn't even a future King.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 2127735)
A godparent from the Spencer side of the family would be nice. Perhaps Louis Spencer, Viscount Althorp as a godfather.

Well, Laura Pettman is Charlotte's godmother. But if you mean a bonafide Spencer as in one of the Earl's children, then while it's possible it also seems doubtful. The Earl's oldest children grew up in Africa and probably had infrequent contact with William. Also the two cousins William chose as godparents (Zara, Laura) are both close in age to him, the Earl's children are quite younger.

Biri 06-28-2018 04:18 PM

So maybe now Emily Hutt?

miss whirley 06-28-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Biri (Post 2127937)
So maybe now Emily Hutt?

She could be a good choice. It would also be interesting since William has only attended 3 cousins' weddings - Laura, Zara and Emily. If he picked all 3 for godparents then that would speak volumes to his affection for them. I guess it could also speak to the 4 cousins' weddings that he didn't attend.

Purrs 06-29-2018 09:47 AM

Will the Christening of Prince Louis mark the end of the Duchess' maternity leave? Are the two events related at all? Has the end of her maternity leave been announced?

Rudolph 06-29-2018 09:50 AM

Not related at all. She’s still on maternity leave. She’ll be back to royal engagements in the fall.

Biri 06-29-2018 10:40 AM

How long is the maternity leave in the UK?

Rudolph 06-29-2018 10:45 AM

52 weeks but obviously Catherine won’t be off for that long. Her schedule resumes in the fall.

Pranter 06-29-2018 11:37 AM

IIRC she doesn't take more than 4 or 5 months.


LaRae

Princess Larisa 06-29-2018 06:14 PM

I believe it was mentioned that she will be back in September. So, that would make it 5 months, give or take a week.

Dman 06-29-2018 09:25 PM

I think the Duchess of Cambridge will start making her comeback probably around mid to late July. She won’t be gone long.

Pranter 06-29-2018 10:03 PM

I think it will be more along the lines of late August ...maybe even September.


LaRae

Dman 06-29-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2128289)
I think it will be more along the lines of late August ...maybe even September.


LaRae

It won’t be that long. KP will most likely announce an engagement for her soon. Likely late July.

Countessmeout 06-29-2018 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dman (Post 2128295)
It won’t be that long. KP will most likely announce an engagement for her soon. Likely late July.

The royals, even those who aren't on maternity leave, are pretty quiet late July/August. It wouldn't be too much surprise if it was fall.

Princess Larisa 06-29-2018 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dman (Post 2128295)
It won’t be that long. KP will most likely announce an engagement for her soon. Likely late July.

Where are you getting this info?
I’m sure Kensington Palace said she would be back to her regular schedule in the Fall. To me that means September, definitely not July.

Osipi 06-30-2018 12:12 AM

I also think it will be fall before an official itinerary of engagements are announced for Kate signaling the end of her maternity leave.

This doesn't mean that Kate won't pop up here and there every so often doing something but as the summer months is when all the British royals kind of take a breather and time out, things resume in full swing in Septemeber.

MichelleQ2 06-30-2018 01:20 AM

I think Kate’s return to full time work will coordinate with George and Charlotte going back to school in early September. I do expect her to appear at a few spotted events over the summer ... I know she hasn’t been announced, but wouldn’t surprise me if she comes to RAF service next week since she is the Honorary Commandant of the RAF Air Cadets. And the will prob make an appearance or 2 at Wimbledon.

muriel 06-30-2018 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichelleQ2 (Post 2128323)
I think Kate’s return to full time work will coordinate with George and Charlotte going back to school in early September. I do expect her to appear at a few spotted events over the summer ... I know she hasn’t been announced, but wouldn’t surprise me if she comes to RAF service next week since she is the Honorary Commandant of the RAF Air Cadets. And the will prob make an appearance or 2 at Wimbledon.

I think that is correct. The odd appearance here and there, and then a proper return to work once George and Charlotte return to school in early September.

miss whirley 06-30-2018 12:48 PM

Interesting conversation (though it seems off-topic to Louis' Christening).

Speaking of which, I'm glad they are having it at the Chapel Royal in St. James Palace instead of at St Mary Magdalene's. It offers more privacy. Going by George's reaction outside Lindo Wing, I don't think he'd be ready to walk past hundreds (thousands?) of royalists as they line the path at Sandringham. His 1-year-old self at Charlotte's Christening seemed to also find it off-putting and needed to be carried by dad. So while I'm sure they chose The Chapel Royal primarily because they're now based in London, as well as convenience for the other Royals (Queen and Philip especially), I think it will benefit George as well.

Rudolph 07-04-2018 03:52 PM

Less than a week to go

Prince Louis' christening: Inside the Chapel Royal at St James's Palace where service for royal baby will take place

Osipi 07-04-2018 03:57 PM

Thanks Rudolph for posting the article with pictures of the interior of the chapel at St. James' Palace. I had never seen the interior before and always wondered what it was like in there. Looks like a perfect place for a cozy, family christening for Louis. :smile:

Zaira 07-05-2018 02:59 AM

I wonder if Trini will finally be godmother? Her and Kate go so far back.

CyrilVladisla 07-05-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaira (Post 2129514)
I wonder if Trini will finally be godmother? Her and Kate go so far back.

Zaira, Who is Trini?

Rudolph 07-05-2018 10:46 PM

Trini Foyle is an old friend of Catherine’s. They went to Marlborough College together.

Countessmeout 07-06-2018 12:03 AM

Havent seen or heard much about Trini in years.

Kate Walks with Trini Foyle in the Park

Trini was seen a lot in the year Kate and William broke up. Her and her husband have at least one son Alexander who is 2 years older then George. He is the kid in the pram in the above link.

Rudolph 07-06-2018 08:26 AM

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby says of Prince Louis's christening next week: "You know, if you're at the wedding don't drop the rings and if you're at the baptism don't drop the baby. They're a wonderful family, there's lots of love and it'll be a great occasion."

Via Hannah Furness Twitter

TLLK 07-06-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Countessmeout (Post 2129869)
Havent seen or heard much about Trini in years.

Kate Walks with Trini Foyle in the Park

Trini was seen a lot in the year Kate and William broke up. Her and her husband have at least one son Alexander who is 2 years older then George. He is the kid in the pram in the above link.


From what I have read the Cambridges' friends tend to stay under the radar, so any interaction might occur away from the cameras' lenses. :smile:

acdc1 07-09-2018 12:46 AM

Who do you think will be in the official group photo that they release? It's a bigger group than when Charlotte was christened, with the addition of Harry (who had been in Australia), Meghan, and Pippa's husband. Do you think they will do a big group with all the family members, or maybe (at least release) one of just the immediate Cambridge family?

Iluvbertie 07-09-2018 12:57 AM

I suspect they will release one with the Cambridge family and one with maybe the grandparents and the Queen and Philip.

They aren't into releasing that many pictures of the children and this occasion will be no different - one or maybe two.

Ish 07-09-2018 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acdc1 (Post 2130640)
Who do you think will be in the official group photo that they release? It's a bigger group than when Charlotte was christened, with the addition of Harry (who had been in Australia), Meghan, and Pippa's husband. Do you think they will do a big group with all the family members, or maybe (at least release) one of just the immediate Cambridge family?


I predict 4 pictures:
1. Group shot with the extended family
2. Shot of the full Cambridge family
3. Shot of either William and Kate with Louis (or perhaps William and Kate with Louis)
4. A miscellaneous shot

Looking at the pictures from George and Charlotte’s christening, that’s basically what they did.

With George, it was 1 extended family pic, 2 Cambridge family pics, 1 pic of the Windsor family, and 1 pic of the 4 generations of monarchs. With Charlotte, it was 1 extended family pic, 1 Cambridge family pic, 1 pic of Kate and Charlotte, and 1 pic of William and George.

Zaira 07-09-2018 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLLK (Post 2130056)
From what I have read the Cambridges' friends tend to stay under the radar, so any interaction might occur away from the cameras' lenses. :smile:


Yes, the young royals and their friends do a very good job staying hidden when they want lol. I am sure it helps Will and Kate that they have a country home for folks to visit. Out of the London glare.

Dman 07-09-2018 02:17 AM

We saw a lot of the Cambridge’s friends when they were single and partying. Now folks are married and with kids. Things have calmed down.

Well, today is the Christening. I think the service starts at 4pm. Looking forward to learning of the Godparents and coverage.

crm2317 07-09-2018 02:33 AM

Won’t it be lovely to see the Cambridge family as a little group of 5 for the first time!

Dman 07-09-2018 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by crm2317 (Post 2130672)
Won’t it be lovely to see the Cambridge family as a little group of 5 for the first time!

Yes! It’s so rare to see them. So it’s going to be a treat indeed.

Missy- 07-09-2018 03:26 AM

I'm really looking forward to it, kind of surprising as I wasn't that interested in George or Charlotte. I mean, I did watch and all, but I think this one will be more fun since we'll see three cute Cambridges interacting (I personally think we see them too infrequently).

Lady Nimue 07-09-2018 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crm2317 (Post 2130672)
Won’t it be lovely to see the Cambridge family as a little group of 5 for the first time!

Agree! :flowers: Though it will be more fun come Christmas with Louis as an 8-month old.

Duke of Marmalade 07-09-2018 06:02 AM

Prince Harry spends £8,000 on first edition Winnie The Pooh book | Daily Mail Online

Uncle Prince Harry bought £8,000 first edition book for nephew's christening

wbenson 07-09-2018 06:03 AM

https://www.royal.uk/christening-pri...and-godparents

The following guests will today attend the christening of Prince Louis at The Chapel Royal, St James’s Palace:

- The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall
- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
- Mr. and Mrs. Michael Middleton, Mr. and Mrs. James Matthews, and Mr. James Middleton
- The godparents of Prince Louis and their spouses

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have asked the following people to be godparents to Prince Louis, all of whom are friends or family of Their Royal Highnesses:

- Mr. Nicholas van Cutsem
- Mr. Guy Pelly
- Mr. Harry Aubrey-Fletcher
- The Lady Laura Meade
- Mrs. Robert Carter
- Miss Lucy Middleton

principessa 07-09-2018 06:05 AM

Am I right: The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh won't attend the christening?

CrownPrincessJava 07-09-2018 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbenson (Post 2130705)
https://www.royal.uk/christening-pri...and-godparents

The following guests will today attend the christening of Prince Louis at The Chapel Royal, St James’s Palace:

- The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall
- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
- Mr. and Mrs. Michael Middleton, Mr. and Mrs. James Matthews, and Mr. James Middleton
- The godparents of Prince Louis and their spouses

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have asked the following people to be godparents to Prince Louis, all of whom are friends or family of Their Royal Highnesses:

- Mr. Nicholas van Cutsem
- Mr. Guy Pelly
- Mr. Harry Aubrey-Fletcher
- The Lady Laura Meade
- Mrs. Robert Carter
- Miss Lucy Middleton

Does this mean HM and the DoE aren't attending?

wbenson 07-09-2018 06:08 AM

It looks like it. They were listed as guests for Princess Charlotte's.

https://twitter.com/lbcbreaking/stat...47836969787393


Buckingham Palace: Both the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are to miss Prince Louis of Cambridge's christening this afternoon.

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https://twitter.com/PA/status/1016248125776855040

Both the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are to miss Prince Louis of Cambridge’s christening. The decision was not made on health grounds, Buckingham Palace says, and it is understood to have been mutually agreed by the Queen and the Cambridges some time ago

M. Payton 07-09-2018 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 2130704)
Prince Harry spends £8,000 on first edition Winnie The Pooh book | Daily Mail Online

Uncle Prince Harry bought £8,000 first edition book for nephew's christening


What a very thoughtful gift for any child, a personal book is one of the most important things a child can receive. It opens doors to everything new in the world, new adventures, new ways of doing something........untold ideas come from books as we grow, I so love this idea of a personal library for any child.

Duke of Marmalade 07-09-2018 06:24 AM

Queen and Prince Philip will NOT attend Prince Louis's christening | Daily Mail Online

I did not expect this, I wonder about the reason behind it. The christening of a great grandchild is really special, why miss it if not for health reasons?

miss whirley 07-09-2018 06:49 AM

I'm shocked that the Queen and DoE are not attending. Didn't they attend the Christenings for their other 5 great-grandchildren?

I picked Harry Aubrey-Fletcher as a godfather so i'm pleased to see him chosen. I picked Lucy Middleton for Charlotte so I was one child off for her.

I'm quite surprised William chose Guy Pelly and Nicolas van Cutsem. While both are close friends, they are both controversial men. I guess since it's the third child and the Queen isn't attending, William thought he could be a little looser with his choices.

wbenson 07-09-2018 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss whirley (Post 2130716)
I'm shocked that the Queen and DoE are not attending. Didn't they attend the Christenings for their other 5 great-grandchildren?

I don't think they were at Isla Phillips's.

PrincessofEurope 07-09-2018 06:57 AM

Mrs Robert Carter - who is this?

Daily Mail reporting it is Sophie Carter who is also Charlotte's godmother. I had always assumed she was unmarried?

wbenson 07-09-2018 06:59 AM

Mrs. Robert Carter is Hannah Gillingham.

PrincessofEurope 07-09-2018 07:03 AM

Thank you

Also noticed 6 godparents for Louis

Charlotte has 5 and George 7 - always assumed that George got more cause he is the future King and therefore Louis and Charlotte would both have 5

Mbruno 07-09-2018 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbenson (Post 2130710)
https://twitter.com/lbcbreaking/stat...47836969787393


Buckingham Palace: Both the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are to miss Prince Louis of Cambridge's christening this afternoon.

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https://twitter.com/PA/status/1016248125776855040

Both the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are to miss Prince Louis of Cambridge’s christening. The decision was not made on health grounds, Buckingham Palace says, and it is understood to have been mutually agreed by the Queen and the Cambridges some time ago


Whenever the Queen misses an important event, there is speculation about her health. The fact that the Palace made a point to deny that her absence was due to health concerns actually has the opposite effect of increasing the speculation.

Duke of Marmalade 07-09-2018 08:09 AM

The godparents explained:
Prince Louis' godparents REVEALED | Daily Mail Online

An Ard Ri 07-09-2018 08:16 AM

Very sad to hear the that Queen and the Duke won't be present today!

Duc_et_Pair 07-09-2018 08:19 AM

Is there a difference between The Lady Laura Meade and Lady Laura Meade ? Or is the word The just the most official form of address? Meaning that it was The Lady Diana Spencer as well?

wbenson 07-09-2018 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 2130739)
Is there a difference between The Lady Laura Meade and Lady Laura Meade ? Or is the word The just the most official form of address? Meaning that it was The Lady Diana Spencer as well?

Yes, Diana was The Lady Diana Spencer (that's what was on the wedding invitations).

I *think* there are some women styled "lady" who aren't entitled to the "the," like ladies of the Garter and Thistle.

muriel 07-09-2018 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss whirley (Post 2130716)
I'm shocked that the Queen and DoE are not attending. Didn't they attend the Christenings for their other 5 great-grandchildren?

I picked Harry Aubrey-Fletcher as a godfather so i'm pleased to see him chosen. I picked Lucy Middleton for Charlotte so I was one child off for her.

I'm quite surprised William chose Guy Pelly and Nicolas van Cutsem. While both are close friends, they are both controversial men. I guess since it's the third child and the Queen isn't attending, William thought he could be a little looser with his choices.

God parents are for life, not just for the Christening! I am sure the choice of God parents had nothing to do with who may or may not attend the christening.

miss whirley 07-09-2018 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 2130739)
Is there a difference between The Lady Laura Meade and Lady Laura Meade ? Or is the word The just the most official form of address? Meaning that it was The Lady Diana Spencer as well?

Maybe The because her father is the current Earl? If he was deceased maybe she'd lose 'The'. I don't know, just a guess.

Zaira 07-09-2018 08:25 AM

Hmm, the Queen not attending (and Philip) is very interesting. I don't generally trust BP when they say it isn't for health reasons...

Then again, maybe the Queen is simply exhausted. She had a busy week of engagements last week and another this week and may just want to take it easier. Philip's lack of attendance I wonder if that has more to do with it being in London versus Windsor?

Pretty surprised Guy Pelly made the cut for godparent lol. But then again, he has shown himself to be a loyal friend even if he has made some interesting choices.

Duc_et_Pair 07-09-2018 08:31 AM

Wikipedia says:

Daughters of Dukes, Marquesses and Earls are The Lady on envelope and Lady in oral.
The same counts for the wives of Dukes and of Marquesses.

So it was always Lady Diana because it was in oral form.

Lady Nimue 07-09-2018 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2130731)
Whenever the Queen misses an important event, there is speculation about her health. The fact that the Palace made a point to deny that her absence was due to health concerns actually has the opposite effect of increasing the speculation.

I agree. :cool: I don't think the PR folks are totally honest about health issues. There might be complicated, layered reasons, one being a judicious sense of how often does one ascribe an absence to 'feeling poorly'. Better to just say there will be an absence and move on.

Dman 07-09-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaira (Post 2130743)
Hmm, the Queen not attending (and Philip) is very interesting. I don't generally trust BP when they say it isn't for health reasons...

Then again, maybe the Queen is simply exhausted. She had a busy week of engagements last week and another this week and may just want to take it easier. Philip's lack of attendance I wonder if that has more to do with it being in London versus Windsor?

Pretty surprised Guy Pelly made the cut for godparent lol. But then again, he has shown himself to be a loyal friend even if he has made some interesting choices.

Loyalty and good friendships means a lot to the royals.

Mirabel 07-09-2018 09:46 AM

I felt pretty sure Lady Laura Meade would be one of the godparents when I saw her with Kate and the children at that polo match. They seemed very friendly.

I am a bit surprised they didn't choose a royal cousin, though.

ROYAL NORWAY 07-09-2018 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss whirley (Post 2130716)
I'm shocked that the Queen and DoE are not attending. Didn't they attend the Christenings for their other 5 great-grandchildren?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 2130714)
I did not expect this, I wonder about the reason behind it. The christening of a great grandchild is really special, why miss it if not for health reasons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2130731)
Whenever the Queen misses an important event, there is speculation about her health. The fact that the Palace made a point to deny that her absence was due to health concerns actually has the opposite effect of increasing the speculation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaira (Post 2130743)
Hmm, the Queen not attending (and Philip) is very interesting. I don't generally trust BP when they say it isn't for health reasons...

Then again, maybe the Queen is simply exhausted. She had a busy week of engagements last week and another this week and may just want to take it easier. Philip's lack of attendance I wonder if that has more to do with it being in London versus Windsor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue (Post 2130747)
I agree. :cool: I don't think the PR folks are totally honest about health issues. There might be complicated, layered reasons, one being a judicious sense of how often does one ascribe an absence to 'feeling poorly'. Better to just say there will be an absence and move on.

Well, perhaps we should just calm down a bit.

1. According to all reliable sources during the past few years, the Queen is in ''remarkable'' god health for her age (yes that's the word they have been using), and if you take a look at her when she is out and about, you'll se it.

2. She has been spending her weekend with Philip in Norfolk, following her busy schedule in Scotland last week, and is on her way back to London today for yet a busy schedule this week.

Tweets from Rebecca English:

Rebecca English @RE_DailyMail
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will not be attending today's christening. There's no health issue for the Queen. She was working flat out in Scotland last week and has got a busy few days in London with the RAF Centenary event tomorrow and #Trump on Friday.

Rebecca English @RE_DailyMail
The Queen & Philip have just spent the weekend together in Norfolk. He is remaining there while she travels back to London today. Her decision not to attend was mutually agreed with William & Kate, while Philip clearly doesn't want to attend public events unless he really has to.

Zaira 07-09-2018 10:11 AM

People are hardly being hysterical, just discussing behavior seemingly out of the normal for the Queen.

And just because BP says there is no health doesn’t mean anything, for the record. The Queen is spry for 92 but 92 is still 92.

As it is, I myself lean more toward her being tired and taking some extra time to rest. I am sure William doesn’t begrudge his grandmother that and she will see plenty of Louis over the next few months.

I think I am also still getting used to Philip’s total retirement from public life. I thought these family occasions like christenings he would attend. I wonder if there was a discussion about holding the christening in Norfolk again to make it a little easier for Philip? He probably didn’t want the fuss.

Pranter 07-09-2018 10:21 AM

I am very surprised, somewhat shocked even, that the Queen and DoE are not attending the Christening....I can't imagine any reason for them not to. Ill health has been denied, they aren't out of the country etc. This is just very strange to me.


LaRae

Dman 07-09-2018 10:30 AM

Of course William and Catherine understand The Queen and Prince Philip not being able to attend, but the media and folks online still aren’t used to the fact that The Queen and Prince Philip are old. Prince Philip is retired and Her Majesty is being careful with her activities.

Don’t know if anyone paid attention to The Queen after the Royal Garden Party in Scotland. The woman looked drained by the end of it. Look at the video.

Osipi 07-09-2018 10:35 AM

I'm going to factor in the the heat wave that seems to have been hitting the UK lately. Places like the chapel at St. James are most likely not air conditioned. A large city such as London tends to hold in the heat more so that open land so with a high expected of 83F today, that is probably taken into consideration. As we grow older (and I can attest to this fact), the heat is far more bothersome and uncomfortable. When the normal temps for July is in the mid 70sF, climbing into the 80s is *hot*.

Archduchess Zelia 07-09-2018 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130780)
I am very surprised, somewhat shocked even, that the Queen and DoE are not attending the Christening....I can't imagine any reason for them not to. Ill health has been denied, they aren't out of the country etc. This is just very strange to me.


LaRae

But they didn't attend Isla's christening back in 2012 either, did they? And in that case, I see nothing weird in them not attending William and Catherine's third child's christening when they didn't attend Peter and Autumn's second child's christening :ermm:

ACO 07-09-2018 10:45 AM

The Queen is 92 and has a busy week. This week is also a massive one with the prep for Trump's arrival on Friday as well as the RAF celebrations tomorrow. It would have been nice for her attendance today but clearly everyone understands. But I also get why it is a surprise for many and it rightfully threw many off.

Chloep 07-09-2018 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACO (Post 2130799)
The Queen is 92 and has a busy week. This week is also a massive one with the prep for Trump's arrival on Friday as well as the RAF celebrations tomorrow. It would have been nice for her attendance today but clearly everyone understands. But I also get why it is a surprise for many and it rightfully threw many off.

I agree. As unfortunate as it is, it is understandable why the Queen and Phillip might have opted out. I am sure William and Catherine understand their reasoning and bear no ill or hurt feelings.

Although, I reckon it might have been wise to announce it prior to today (as it is stated that the decision has been made some time ago).

Pranter 07-09-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130798)
But they didn't attend Isla's christening back in 2012 either, did they? And in that case, I see nothing weird in them not attending William and Catherine's third child's christening when they didn't attend Peter and Autumn's second child's christening :ermm:


Different situation. Peter and Autumn live as private people. William is the heir of the heir. Louis's brother will be a King.



LaRae

TLLK 07-09-2018 11:16 AM

https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...46523938648064


So according to the announcement, guests will be served slices of christening cake which is from one of the tiers of the Cambridge wedding cake. Thank goodness there was still enough left from George and Charlotte's christenings!

_Heather_ 07-09-2018 11:16 AM

Agreed that it might have been prudent to release that information prior to today to avoid the intense speculation that is currently making the rounds. I'm seeing quite a bit of speculation regarding the nature of their absence, the groundwork being laid for transition, etc.

Looking forward to seeing the video and pictures from today...fingers crossed for some sweet interaction between Uncle Harry and the children.

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130780)
I am very surprised, somewhat shocked even, that the Queen and DoE are not attending the Christening....I can't imagine any reason for them not to. Ill health has been denied, they aren't out of the country etc. This is just very strange to me.
LaRae


Yes. I love the Queen, but when it comes to attending events by herself or family members abroad and, nowadays even at home, the BRF is, let´s say, "unique" among all other european royal courts, if not even eccentric... :whistling::whistling::whistling:

Archduchess Zelia 07-09-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130808)
Different situation. Peter and Autumn live as private people. William is the heir of the heir. Louis's brother will be a King.



LaRae

So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.

Pranter 07-09-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130814)
So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.


Has nothing to do with importance or that Peter is less than William.

As I said...Peter and his family are private citizens. William and his family are not. Yes it is surprising that the Queen is not there for the Christening for a child of a future King.


LaRae

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130808)
Different situation. Peter and Autumn live as private people. William is the heir of the heir. Louis's brother will be a King.

LaRae


Are we talking about succession or an important family event? I cannot think of any other reason for great-grandparents NOT to attend their gr grgandchild´ s christening other than a poor health!

Even more so when the great grandmother bears the title "defender of the faith" and is the worldly head of a church! To all christians claiming to be devout, a christening IS a very important occasion, no matter if you make a state affair of it (Sweden) or if it is a more private thing (Spain, Britain, Belgium).

Marchesina 07-09-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130814)
So it's alright for HM to miss Isla's christening because she's... less important than Louis? :rofl: I'm pretty sure Peter and Autumn don't think their daughter is less important just because she isn't gonna be the sister of a King.

But I'm also fairly certain that neither Peter and Autumn nor William and Catherine care a lot. The BRF has never seemed to me to care as much about the christenings as other royal families – as exemplified by the guest lists for all three Cambridge children's christenings. Only close family and godparents, nothing big or fancy. And I'm sure they understand if HM prioritise work.

I am sure the BRF cares for the christening very much (especially HM who has always been portrayed as a very devout christian). But some royal families consider christenings a private event rather than a State occasion with dignitaries, politicians and other personalities invited, the way Scandivian royals do.

cdm 07-09-2018 11:38 AM

Doesn’t the BRF have private christenings for all their members?

Archduchess Zelia 07-09-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130816)
Has nothing to do with importance or that Peter is less than William.

As I said...Peter and his family are private citizens. William and his family are not. Yes it is surprising that the Queen is not there for the Christening for a child of a future King.


LaRae

Correct, William and his family are not private citizens but the christening is private. So sure, it may be surprising that she isn't gonna be there if you'd anticipated she'd be there but it's not weird – just shows that she doesn't rank her great-grandchildren's importance according to their place in the line of succession.

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Originally Posted by Marchesina (Post 2130819)
I am sure the BRF cares for the christening very much (especially HM who has always been portrayed as a very devout christian). But some royal families consider christenings a private event rather than a State occasion with dignitaries, politicians and other personalities invited, the way Scandivian royals do.

And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cdm (Post 2130820)
Doesn’t the BRF have private christenings for all their members?

More or less so. The christenings themselves are never filmed or televised, there are only official photographs released a few days later (never from the christening act itself).

Pranter 07-09-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130823)
And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.

The why has already been stated.


LaRae

wartenberg7 07-09-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 2130823)
And that's my point. The BRF's christenings are private events, there's not a lot of fuss about them and as such, they're clearly not necessarily events HM feels like she's obliged to prioritise over work. I legitimately can't see why people are making such a big deal out of it when she did the exact same thing six years ago.


Well, the thing about the christenings being "private" or not do not count for me. If gr grandparents are in proper health, why then shouldn´ t they attend (except may be if there is a family feud)?
When the Queen didn´t attend 6 years ago I find that quite odd, too. If my great granny would not come to my child´ s christening, I´d be very upset!

Marika86 07-09-2018 11:59 AM

Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter Guests arrive for Prince Louis’s christening https://twitter.com/i/status/1016334845776203778

Marchesina 07-09-2018 12:01 PM

No live broadcast of the arrivals from Skynews this time?

Dman 07-09-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchesina (Post 2130832)
No live broadcast of the arrivals from Skynews this time?

Don’t seem like it.

Moonmaiden23 07-09-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TLLK (Post 2130809)
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...46523938648064


So according to the announcement, guests will be served slices of christening cake which is from one of the tiers of the Cambridge wedding cake. Thank goodness there was still enough left from George and Charlotte's christenings!

I cannot believe they are still serving up slices of the Cambridge wedding cake circa 2011.:sick:

I hope that's a misprint.

jacqui24 07-09-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23 (Post 2130837)
I cannot believe they are still serving up slices of the Cambridge wedding cake circa 2011.:sick:

I hope that's a misprint.

It's not. I know fruitcake last a long time, but I feel like there should be expiration date for all food items. It's well past time.

camelot23ca 07-09-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wartenberg7 (Post 2130828)
Well, the thing about the christenings being "private" or not do not count for me. If gr grandparents are in proper health, why then shouldn´ t they attend (except may be if there is a family feud)?
When the Queen didn´t attend 6 years ago I find that quite odd, too. If my great granny would not come to my child´ s christening, I´d be very upset!

But different families have different priorities and attach various amounts of importance to attendance at events like this. My grandmother is a little younger than the Queen and my first child is actually being baptized later this month. I wouldn’t think twice if she decided it was too much for her to attend the ceremony. And she’s nowhere near as busy or as active as the Queen.

In terms of the Queen’s great grandchildren, there’s George and then there’s everyone else. It would have been unacceptable for the Queen to miss the christening of a future monarch, IMO. On the other hand I think it’s perfectly acceptable to make the decision for the other children on a purely personal basis, whether the child in question is royal or not. It doesn’t mean that Louis or Isla are less important to Elizabeth and Philip, their great grandparents. But they’re not future monarchs and their christenings don’t demand the institutional presence of The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh.

Pranter 07-09-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2130839)
It's not. I know fruitcake last a long time, but I feel like there should be expiration date for all food items. It's well past time.

When you freeze foods it does extend the dates on things. I'm sure they have it wrapped and done up right.



LaRae

jacqui24 07-09-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2130842)
When you freeze foods it does extend the dates on things. I'm sure they have it wrapped and done up right.



LaRae

I don't doubt it, but still...yicky. 7 years. That's a long time.


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