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Marengo 09-21-2017 01:21 AM

Princess Madeleine, Chris O'Neill & Family, General News Part 3: Sept 2017 -
 

Welcome to the General News of Princess Madeleine, Chris O'Neill and Family, Part 3

Commencing September 21, 2017

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Lady Nimue 09-21-2017 02:28 AM

From the other thread, @JR76 wrote: "Both the King & Carl Philip spent their high school years at boarding school but neither the King's sisters nor his daughters did."

Thank you for the context. :flowers: So it's possible they will use boarding schools. Just a thought. Thank you.

Duke of Marmalade 09-21-2017 02:41 AM

Yes, but then the kids would be older, like 12 or 13? Before that there would be regular schooling at the place they chose to live, either London or Stockholm.

LadyFinn 09-21-2017 03:19 PM

Madeleine in London yesterday
Profimedia

Madeleine and Chris in London today, Madeleine went also alone to shop children's clothes in Trotters.
Profimedia

MARG 09-21-2017 08:41 PM

I am beginning to wonder if the time split between Madeleine and Chris won't change to her staying in Sweden and joining Chris for "command performances" and weekends or maybe he spending weekends with the family in Sweden and Madeleine joining him when necessary.

They have obviously made friends in Stockholm as opposed to business acquaintances in London. Come to think of it we mostly see photos of her shopping, with or without the kids, or her on her own and I think Madeleine is going to need they support of family and friends for this third pregnancy.

LadyFinn 09-21-2017 11:40 PM

Margareta Thorgren told to the swedish press some days ago, that after her long staying in Stockholm Madeleine returned to London last week.

LadyFinn 11-07-2017 01:28 PM

On Sunday, after king Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia had left from London, Madeleine, Chris and the children went to a pizzeria. While Madeleine and the children were inside ordering pizzas, Chris came out to smoke. The no-smoking sign seen at the photos tells that you can't smoke inside the pizzeria.
Chris O'Neills ciggpaus framför förbudsskylten _ Kungligt _ Expressen

LadyFinn 12-31-2017 01:41 AM

Expressen writes about Chris' company

Chris O'Neill's company is making new million loss
Chris O'Neill's British company continues to make loss - and has liabilities of several million SEK.
O'Neill, however, counts on that his brother-in-law John d'Abo gives money to keep the company floating, stated in the annual report.
Chris O'Neill has ownership interests in several companies, one of which is Wilton Payments Ltd. The company is registered with both Chris O'Neill and John d'Abo, his brother-in-law, as shareholders - but it is Chris O'Neill who manages the company and represents the company's American business.
Expressen has previously reported how the business has made loss for several years. The new annual report for the fiscal year 2016/2017 has now been submitted to the UK company register showing that the economic downturns continue.
The company's assets decreased during the year to SEK 863,000, from 1.3 million the year before. At the same time, liabilities amount increases to about SEK 2.8 million, which is a marginal increase since last year. Despite the negative figures, the company's two directors confirm that Wilton Payment's operations are not in danger.
"Despite a negative balance sheet, directors are convinced that the company is functioning because of J H E d'Abo's commitment to continue financing the company", the company's auditors report in the annual report.
The documents show that at the end of the year, Wilton Payments owed John d'Abo, married to Chris' sister Tatjana, about SEK 550,000. But there is also a debt to John d'Abo's company of the equivalent of SEK 2.6 million, which means that the debt amounts to just over SEK three million.
"At the end of the year, the company owed 233 370 £ to d'Abo Development and Property Management Limited, a company controlled by J H E d'Abo", says the annual report.
Chris O'Neills bolag gör ny miljonförlust _ Kungligt _ Expressen

M. Payton 12-31-2017 01:46 AM

Oh dear..........not good!

maria-olivia 12-31-2017 07:03 AM

I never trust him !

LadyFinn 01-04-2018 03:02 PM

The Villa in Palm Beach is still on sale. The price is still $3,995,000. The swedish press told in November 2015 that it is on sale. People can also rent it for $30,000/month.
Corcoran, 207 Bahama Lane, Palm Beach Real Estate, South Florida Homes, Palm Beach, Rosalind Clarke
Corcoran, 207 Bahama Lane, Palm Beach Rentals, South Florida Rentals, Palm Beach South Florida Rentals, Rosalind Clarke

LadyFinn 01-15-2018 07:52 AM

Chris was photographed with his mother in London.
https://www.svenskdam.se/2018/01/for...i-farmor-igen/

LadyFinn 01-21-2018 02:40 AM

Svensk Damtidning has an article about Chris, on the cover
Madeleine's reluctant husband
The whole situation is tough
"He has done totally wrong"
That is why Chris doesn't want to be seen in Sweden
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Chris O'Neill - the reluctant spouse
Svensk Damtidning writes that when Madeleine and Chris got married, the director of the press department Bertil Ternert said that Chris will attend at some royal events and at some maybe not, they will decide that themselves.
Svensk Damtidning writes that some years later it can be seen that Chris often declines to attend at official events. When Chris didn't attend at the Nobel festitivities in 2012, historian Herman Lindqvist commented that Chris didn't seem to understand his role, he was doing totally wrong. Svensk Damtidning repeats the events Chris hasn't attend and writes that sometimes he informs that he will not attend, but then he attends though.
Svensk Damtidning writes that the reason that Chris doesn't thrive at the limelights. When his brother-in-law prince Daniel poses at selfies with fans and pats cordially people on their shoulders, Chris becomes stiff when there is a lot of people. A person with knowledge about the royal family says that it's difficult for Chris with attention. He likes to be at the centre in his own circle of friends and is spontaneous and open, but at the same time he feels very uncomfortable at official events.
But since Chris didn't take the royal title, he can choose how he wants to have it. And he also does it.
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LadyFinn 01-22-2018 04:16 AM

Chris was seen in London. He had been at a gym and stopped on his way at a bakery.
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kun...tet-och-fikar/

Madeleine was seen shopping in London last week.
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kun...-sin-barnvagn/

Duke of Marmalade 01-22-2018 05:26 AM

Does Chris still wear a cigarette behind his ear?

CrownPrincessJava 01-22-2018 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 2066096)
Does Chris still wear a cigarette behind his ear?

They're Apple's wireless ear buds

carina_a 01-22-2018 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownPrincessJava (Post 2066098)
They're Apple's wireless ear buds

OMG HAHAHAHA:lol:

LadyFinn 01-23-2018 12:53 PM

Expressen's royal commentator Karin Lennmor wrote yesterday at her chronicle
"Learn from your big sister Victoria, Madeleine"
about Madeleine's difficult relationship with Sweden and the Swedes.
Lennmor writes that we still don't need where Madeleine will give birth. The decision is certainly already taken. But for some reason, Madeleine and Chris O'Neill have it hard to tell where it will be. The hospital is never published in advance, but shouldn't Madeleine tell in which country a new member of the royal family will be born?
Lennmor thinks Madeleine chooses to give birth in London. Whatever Madeleine chooses, she is getting criticism from us here at home. If she chooses London, it will be complained that she doesn't prioritize Sweden and is too good to come home. If she gives birth in Stockholm, there are certainly whiners who think she utilizes Swedish health care.
Lennmor writes that Madeleine received criticism because she didn't attend the Nobel Banquet and many raised their eyebrows when she didn't represent the royal house during the Icelandic state visit. Especially because big sister Victoria was ill.
Sadly Madeleine has come on a collision course with Sweden and Swedes. A colleague on another newspaper recently called her for "a Swedish Marie Antoinette", a scandal beauty princess who can never do anything right. To some extent, Lennmor agrees with this.
Madeleine had only 18 work days noted in the court official calendar last year.
- I really want to be with my children when they are small, she told to Expressen, and Lennmor understand that explanation.
It is cruel to call Madeleine "the laziest in the royal house". It is not just children and Netflix-watching which take her time in London, she prepares in the tasks she is doing. She also works part time for Childhood and writes a children's book.
But there must be something that has happened to Madeleine here in Sweden, something that gnaws and rubs her because she doesn't want to live here, work for the apanage, or barely seem to like to belong to the royal house? Where is the sense of duty?
Lennmor thinks that Madeleine should learn from Victoria, who successfully combines the role of a mom for toddlers with the quite numerous representation duties the Crown Princess role entails.
Lennmor writes: Learn from your big sister, Madeleine! Think about moving home to Stockholm permanently. There is no one who believes in this that you have to live in London for Chris's job. He can work just anywhere. I allow you both apanage and that you have free disposal rights at the apartment in the Royal Mews (that is, you do not have to pay a rent).
But be a bit more princess for us! Like the role! And take responsibility for it!
Come on Madeleine, we like you!
KARIN LENNMOR_ Lär av storasyster Victoria, Madeleine _ Karin Lennmor _ Expressen

Mbruno 01-23-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 2066798)
Expressen's royal commentator Karin Lennmor wrote yesterday at her chronicle
"Learn from your big sister Victoria, Madeleine"
about Madeleine's difficult relationship with Sweden and the Swedes.
Lennmor writes that we still don't need where Madeleine will give birth. The decision is certainly already taken. But for some reason, Madeleine and Chris O'Neill have it hard to tell where it will be. The hospital is never published in advance, but shouldn't Madeleine tell in which country a new member of the royal family will be born?
Lennmor thinks Madeleine chooses to give birth in London. Whatever Madeleine chooses, she is getting criticism from us here at home. If she chooses London, it will be complained that she doesn't prioritize Sweden and is too good to come home. If she gives birth in Stockholm, there are certainly whiners who think she utilizes Swedish health care.
Lennmor writes that Madeleine received criticism because she didn't attend the Nobel Banquet and many raised their eyebrows when she didn't represent the royal house during the Icelandic state visit. Especially because big sister Victoria was ill.
Sadly Madeleine has come on a collision course with Sweden and Swedes. A colleague on another newspaper recently called her for "a Swedish Marie Antoinette", a scandal beauty princess who can never do anything right. To some extent, Lennmor agrees with this.
Madeleine had only 18 work days noted in the court official calendar last year.
- I really want to be with my children when they are small, she told to Expressen, and Lennmor understand that explanation.
It is cruel to call Madeleine "the laziest in the royal house". It is not just children and Netflix-watching which take her time in London, she prepares in the tasks she is doing. She also works part time for Childhood and writes a children's book.
But there must be something that has happened to Madeleine here in Sweden, something that gnaws and rubs her because she doesn't want to live here, work for the apanage, or barely seem to like to belong to the royal house? Where is the sense of duty?
Lennmor thinks that Madeleine should learn from Victoria, who successfully combines the role of a mom for toddlers with the quite numerous representation duties the Crown Princess role entails.
Lennmor writes: Learn from your big sister, Madeleine! Think about moving home to Stockholm permanently. There is no one who believes in this that you have to live in London for Chris's job. He can work just anywhere. I allow you both apanage and that you have free disposal rights at the apartment in the Royal Mews (that is, you do not have to pay a rent).
But be a bit more princess for us! Like the role! And take responsibility for it!
Come on Madeleine, we like you!
KARIN LENNMOR_ Lär av storasyster Victoria, Madeleine _ Karin Lennmor _ Expressen

I honestly don't know what people expect from Madeleine. She doesn't live in Sweden because her husband doesn't want to live in Sweden. If it were up to her, she would move back to Stockholm, so I'd blame it on Chris, not on her. On the other hand, she doesn't normally get money from the King's apanage and, therefore, is not a burden on Swedish taxpayers. Furthermore, with the King and Queen, Victoria and Daniel, and CP and Sofia around, she is not really needed as a "working royal". So she wasn't at the Icelandic state dinner, but Sofia, CP, and Daniel were there plus the King and the Queen obviously. Did Madeleine really have to attend to "cover" for her sick big sister ? Ditto for the Nobel banquet where there were already plenty of royals in attendance, including the Crown Princess.

Finally, let's not forget that Madeleine is pregnant and it is natural that she would consider limiting her public agenda. I would advise her to have her third child in London in a private hospital paid for by Chris so that no one can argue she is "taking advantage of the Swedish public health system". I think that is still better than being accused of "not caring about Sweden", although the whole situation is a a bit of a no-win scenario for her really.

In the end, unless Madeleine divorces Chris or convinces him to change his opinion about living in Sweden, the best course of action is to have things stay as they are and let her children naturally lose their place in the line of succession (and probably their royal titles along with it) for "not being raised in Sweden" as mandated by the Act of Succession. Then the controversy surrounding her family would naturally end.

Empress Merel 01-23-2018 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 2066798)
Expressen's royal commentator Karin Lennmor wrote yesterday at her chronicle
"Learn from your big sister Victoria, Madeleine"
about Madeleine's difficult relationship with Sweden and the Swedes.
Lennmor writes that we still don't need where Madeleine will give birth. The decision is certainly already taken. But for some reason, Madeleine and Chris O'Neill have it hard to tell where it will be. The hospital is never published in advance, but shouldn't Madeleine tell in which country a new member of the royal family will be born?
Lennmor thinks Madeleine chooses to give birth in London. Whatever Madeleine chooses, she is getting criticism from us here at home. If she chooses London, it will be complained that she doesn't prioritize Sweden and is too good to come home. If she gives birth in Stockholm, there are certainly whiners who think she utilizes Swedish health care.
Lennmor writes that Madeleine received criticism because she didn't attend the Nobel Banquet and many raised their eyebrows when she didn't represent the royal house during the Icelandic state visit. Especially because big sister Victoria was ill.
Sadly Madeleine has come on a collision course with Sweden and Swedes. A colleague on another newspaper recently called her for "a Swedish Marie Antoinette", a scandal beauty princess who can never do anything right. To some extent, Lennmor agrees with this.
Madeleine had only 18 work days noted in the court official calendar last year.
- I really want to be with my children when they are small, she told to Expressen, and Lennmor understand that explanation.
It is cruel to call Madeleine "the laziest in the royal house". It is not just children and Netflix-watching which take her time in London, she prepares in the tasks she is doing. She also works part time for Childhood and writes a children's book.
But there must be something that has happened to Madeleine here in Sweden, something that gnaws and rubs her because she doesn't want to live here, work for the apanage, or barely seem to like to belong to the royal house? Where is the sense of duty?
Lennmor thinks that Madeleine should learn from Victoria, who successfully combines the role of a mom for toddlers with the quite numerous representation duties the Crown Princess role entails.
Lennmor writes: Learn from your big sister, Madeleine! Think about moving home to Stockholm permanently. There is no one who believes in this that you have to live in London for Chris's job. He can work just anywhere. I allow you both apanage and that you have free disposal rights at the apartment in the Royal Mews (that is, you do not have to pay a rent).
But be a bit more princess for us! Like the role! And take responsibility for it!
Come on Madeleine, we like you!
KARIN LENNMOR_ Lär av storasyster Victoria, Madeleine _ Karin Lennmor _ Expressen

This honestly sounds like a joke.


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