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lucien 07-22-2015 04:04 AM

State Visit from Belgium to The Netherlands: November 28-30, 2016
 
:belgiumstandard::dutchstandard:

TM King Filip and Queen Mathilde will pay a State Visit to The Netherlands in 2016.

Further details will be released in due course.

maria-olivia 07-22-2015 06:17 AM

That will be a match for the dresses but alas not for the jewels !

muriel 07-22-2015 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 1803507)
:belgiumstandard::dutchstandard:

TM King Filip and Queen Mathilde will pay a State Visit to The Netherlands in 2016.

Further details will be released in due course.

That is great.

Mbruno 07-22-2015 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1803546)
That will be a match for the dresses but alas not for the jewels !

It will be an opportunity for Queen Mathilde to finally wear some of Queen Fabiola's jewelry (the Spanish gift tiara maybe ?), assuming the Belgian Royal Family still owns it (that is unclear).

It is really amazing that the Belgian RF used to be one of the richest in Europe (unfortunately due to unethical profits from King Leopold II's direct rule over the Belgian Congo) and now ended up being so cash-strapped !

Duc_et_Pair 07-22-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 1803558)
It will be an opportunity for Queen Mathilde to finally wear some of Queen Fabiola's jewelry (the Spanish gift tiara maybe ?), assuming the Belgian Royal Family still owns it (that is unclear).

It is really amazing that the Belgian RF used to be one of the richest in Europe (unfortunately due to unethical profits from King Leopold II's direct rule over the Belgian Congo) and now ended up being so cash-strapped !

Not really cash strapped. The immense Donation Royale is still the result of Leopold II's wealth. That trust owns a lot of estates and has given in use to the Belgian royal family the following properties: the Château de Laeken (residence of the King), the Serres Royales (royal glasshouses in the park of Laeken), the Château du Belvédère (residence of King Albert II), the villa Clémentine (residence of Prince Laurent), the Château du Stuyvenberg (residence of the late Queen Fabiola) , the villa Schonenberg (residence of Princess Astrid), the Château de Ciergnon (summer residence in the Ardennes), the Château de Fenffe (another summer residence in the Ardennes), the Château de Villers-sur-Lesse (hunting pavillion in the Ardennes).

Yes, these buildings are not privately owned by the Belgian royal family, but as these are assigned for use by the royal family, according to the conditions of Leopold's gift, these beautiful properties are theirs to use anyway. In other royal families they often have sold all private properties, so in a way I like the Belgian situation.

:flowers:

eya 07-22-2015 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 1803507)
:belgiumstandard::dutchstandard:

TM King Filip and Queen Mathilde will pay a State Visit to The Netherlands in 2016.

Further details will be released in due course.

I think that already the two royal ladies will start sewn to Natan imagine :smile:

Duc_et_Pair 07-22-2015 11:17 AM

I am afraid it will be a Natan show indeed, because maybe Queen Máxima wants a "Belgian touch" in her garderobe by wearing Natan (from Belgium) and Fabienne Delvigne (from Belgium). Like she wore various outfits from Claes Iversen (Dutch-Danish) when she visited Denmark.

Marika86 09-07-2016 06:34 AM

State Visit from Belgium: November 28-30, 2016
 
Staatsbezoek Koning en Koningin van België

Quote:

State Visit King and Queen of Belgium
News item | 07-09-2016 | 10:10

At the invitation of His Majesty the King will bring His Majesty the King of the Belgians Filip from Monday 28 to Wednesday, November 30th, 2016 a state visit to the Netherlands. King Philip is accompanied by Her Majesty Queen Mathilde.

The state visit confirms the close and multifaceted neighbor relationship and stressed the historical ties and shared values. Both at international level, at central and local level diplomatic and political relations are intensive. Belgium, after Germany, the main trade partner of the Netherlands. Between the two countries there is a comprehensive cultural and academic cooperation.

RVD, no. 195

Duc_et_Pair 09-07-2016 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marika86 (Post 1921997)

I assume an online translator has been used? The text in English is abominable.

Skippy 09-07-2016 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1921998)
I assume an online translator has been used? The text in English is abominable.

The not-so-abominable text:
State visit by the King and Queen of Belgium. Or perhaps it has been modified afterwards.

Mbruno 09-07-2016 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marika86 (Post 1921997)

I am glad a date has finally been announced, I was beginning to fear that state visit would no longer take place this year.

Marengo 09-07-2016 08:13 AM

I feared the same but I am happy to be proven wrong. Let's hope that more members of the Dutch RF will attend the state dinner in Amsterdam. Constantijn and Laurentien lived in Belgium for a long time so their attendance would be nice.

lucien 09-07-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 1922010)
I feared the same but I am happy to be proven wrong. Let's hope that more members of the Dutch RF will attend the state dinner in Amsterdam. Constantijn and Laurentien lived in Belgium for a long time so their attendance would be nice.

At least seven Members of our RF will be in attendance at the Gala Banquet here on the first day/night,four of them female.....So start guessing if the parure of parures will see the light of day...:whistling:

polyesco 09-07-2016 12:43 PM

Looking forward to November :flowers:

Stefan 09-07-2016 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 1922074)
At least seven Members of our RF will be in attendance at the Gala Banquet here on the first day/night,four of them female.....So start guessing if the parure of parures will see the light of day...:whistling:

Is that confirmed. I will only believe it when i see it that Constantijn and Laurentien will attend the State Banquet. So far they attended only once and then ´Willem-Alexander and Máxima where not present.

Duc_et_Pair 09-08-2016 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 1922074)
At least seven Members of our RF will be in attendance at the Gala Banquet here on the first day/night,four of them female.....So start guessing if the parure of parures will see the light of day...:whistling:

Who? At least seven?

The King
Queen Máxima - rose cut diamonds bandeau
Princess Beatrix - Queen Emma's floral motif diadem

Princess Margriet? - laurel wreath diadem
Pieter van Vollenhoven?

Prince Constantijn?
Princess Laurentien? - antique pearl diadem

The Duke of Parma?
The Duchess of Parma? - the diamond ears-of-wheat diadem

muriel 09-08-2016 04:57 AM

I think you will only see 5 of the Dutch RF: the King and Queen, Beatrix, Margriet and husband.

Duc_et_Pair 09-08-2016 05:17 AM

I also wonder what the King and Queen will visit. The High Tech Campus in Eindhoven? The new ultramodern headquarters of the Loodswezen (Maritime Pilots) in Vlissingen regulating the gigantic traffic to the (Dutch) Westerschelde to and from the (Belgian) Port of Antwerp?

I would love it to see the King and Queen staying at the mediaeval castle at the Crown Estate around Palace Het Loo and have a state banquet in one of those glittering salons (picture) (like Queen Elizabeth II in 1986).

Marika86 11-16-2016 05:33 AM

Program of the State Visit

https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/actuee...lgen-programma

Quote:

State Visit King and Queen of the Belgians - program
News item | 16-11-2016 | 11:00

At the invitation of His Majesty the King will bring His Majesty the King of the Belgians Filip from Monday 28 to Wednesday, November 30th, 2016 a state visit to the Netherlands. King Philip is accompanied by Her Majesty Queen Mathilde.

Monday, November 28
King Philippe and Queen Mathilde be officially welcomed at the Dam in Amsterdam by King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima. After inspecting the guard of honor found in the Royal Palace a reception area with accompanying persons Dutch and Belgian authorities. After the reception King Philip lays a wreath at the National Monument on Dam Square.
In the presence of both Royal Couples sign Koenders of Foreign Affairs and the Belgian Foreign Minister Reynders at the Royal Palace to the Convention for the adaptation of the border between the Dutch municipalities Eijsden-Margraten and Maastricht and the Belgian town of Visé (Visé) .
King Philip, Queen Mathilde, King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima his afternoons in the Flemish Cultural Centre de Brakke Grond for a cultural program of the three communities. Both Kings then attend Euronext Amsterdam final conclusions at the Belgian-Dutch Innovative Entrepreneurs & Finance Conference . At the same time closing Queen Mathilde and Queen Máxima at a symposium on the approach and cooperation in urbanization. The first day will end with a state banquet at the Royal Palace in Amsterdam.

Tuesday, November 29
The second day of the state visit begins with a visit of King Philip at ESA / ESTEC in Noordwijk. Subsequently, King Philip in the Senate building a conversation with Mrs. Broekers-Knol, Chairman of the Senate of Parliament, Ms Arib, chairman of the House of Representatives, and the Presidents of the European Affairs Committees . Subsequently receives Prime Minister Mark Rutte King Philip. King Willem-Alexander, Queen Maxima and Queen Mathilde join for lunch in the Knights. Topics to be discussed at each table, sustainability, logistics, construction and smart cities, FinTech and investment, food & innovation, start-ups, life science & health .
In the afternoon, attend King Philip and King Willem-Alexander of the conclusions at a CEO roundtable led by VNO-NCW and the Federation of Belgian Enterprises. Besides visiting King Philip the Dutch-Flemish Accreditation Organization.
Queen Mathilde and Queen Maxima visit the Cobra Museum in Amstelveen Alechinsky retrospective exhibition . In the evening offer the King and Queen of the Belgians in Music aan 't IJ, a concert including the National Orchestra of Belgium and Ozark Henry.

Wednesday November 30
On the last day of the state visit travels to King Philip High Tech Campus Eindhoven, where Belgian-Dutch seminars take place in the field of digital innovation, sustainability and R & D. King Philip speaks among other young researchers, visiting Holst Centre and lives with Minister Schultz van Haegen a water symposium.
Queen Mathilde and Queen Máxima arrive by train in Utrecht for a tour of the new Central Station and the station area. Then travels Mathilde Queen to High Tech Campus in Eindhoven and Sligro Food Group in Veghel for opening ZiN, a inspiratielab for the foodservice industry.

The state visit ends at Castle Heeze, where Minister Schultz van Haegen official farewell on behalf of the Dutch government takes the King and Queen of the Belgians.

RVD, no. 249

Duc_et_Pair 11-16-2016 06:56 AM

Nice program. Strange that the official farewell ceremony at Heeze Castle is "only" presided by Minister of Infrastructure.

Heeze Castle (picture), close to Eindhoven, is property (and residence of) the Baron and Baroness Samuel van Tuyll van Serooskerken née Jonkvrouw Edmée Röell. Great that the Court uses regional historic residences as a venue for State Visits.

An Ard Ri 11-16-2016 07:20 AM

Thanks for the photo above and I was also wondering why Heeze Castle was being used as a venue.

carlota 11-16-2016 06:04 PM

I am beyond excited about this visit! how great. mathilde and maxima encounters are usually amongst the best royal to royal encounters... the friendship between the two queens is undeniable. :)

Marengo 11-17-2016 12:23 AM

The Belgians will offer a concert on the 2nd day in a modern music center. The unlikely option of a 2nd tiara event has become even more unlikely.

Duc_et_Pair 11-17-2016 02:09 AM

The Muziekgebouw aan 't IJ is an interesting choice. A hypermodern building with ingenious LED walls which can create any atmosphere. A diadem-event is not impossible but I think we may even be happy when the Belgians set the dresscode on black tie.

Muziekgebouw aan 't IJ (exterior)

Interior in cold blue

Interior in warmer tint

Interior for diner

eya 11-22-2016 11:03 AM

State visit to THE NETHERLANDS from 28 to 30 November - Strong ties with our neighbor country and between the Dutch and Belgian Royal visits in 2000, 2002 and 2006.

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maria-olivia 11-22-2016 12:19 PM

Since years King Leopold III was Princess Beatrix Godfather.

eya 11-23-2016 11:44 AM

State visit to THE NETHERLANDS 28-30 November - Strong and old ties with our neighbor country and between the Dutch and Belgian Royal Families: reciprocal visits in 1910, 1939 and 1959.

I love old photos!!

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lucien 11-27-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1941260)
Since years King Leopold III was Princess Beatrix Godfather.

And in a far far past as children,the Prince Baudouin,Princess Josephine Charlotte and Prince Albert would spend their summers at the sea resort of Noordwijk,just above The Hague and often visited,or were visited by,Queen Wilhelmina and Princess Juliana.:smile:

Duc_et_Pair 11-27-2016 12:22 PM

In Belgian media there seem to live mixed feelings about the State Visit: "Finally Philippe can go to a kingdom where everything works normal, he can escape his disfunctional family, he can learn from the true people-players WA and Máxima" (Jan van den Berghe in De Standaard).

But yesterday in the program Blauw Bloed the three Belgian guests in the former palace of Willem I in Antwerp classified Máxima as a "pretty duck" and Mathilde as a "gracious swan". Their reasoning was not consistent: "Máxima was never raised to be Queen and at the age of 20 she never knew she would be Queen". Complete bollocks: was Mathilde, living in deep green forests of the Ardennes raised to be Queen? Did she know on the age of 20 she would be Queen?

Then the three experts thought that Amalia should be in public more, like Elisabeth. Again they are not consistent: Elisabeth is years older than Amalia. And in the Netherlands on King's Day we see the princesses live on TV as well for the several photoshoots, sports tournaments, etc. In my assessment there is no difference between Elisabeth and Amalia.

Then the three claimed that Philippe was King of a far more difficult country. That might be true, but again their reasoning was inconsistent: "No matter what Willem-Alexander does, the Dutch will shout Oranje Boven!" Hmm the Dutch King would have wished that was true!

Then they did a bit of Kremlin-watching: the King hugged Felipe and Frederik but did not hug Philippe. Conclusion: the relationship with Spain and Denmark is warmer than with Belgium... Seldom I have seen such fact-free blabla...

maria-olivia 11-27-2016 02:02 PM

King Albert II and Queen Paola went to Official Visit with Airplane (30 minutes)

King Philippe and Queen Mathilde will leave Laeken with a car. Arriving at the Netherdand's Border they will be welwomed by the Dutch Marechaussé and will enter a Dutch Car. Their Belgian car will stay at the Border until their return.

The belgian Press is wondering if King Willem Alexander will show He is the Boss as for the first one day Visit !

Countessmeout 11-27-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942257)
In Belgian media there seem to live mixed feelings about the State Visit: "Finally Philippe can go to a kingdom where everything works normal, he can escape his disfunctional family, he can learn from the true people-players WA and Máxima" (Jan van den Berghe in De Standaard).

But yesterday in the program Blauw Bloed the three Belgian guests in the former palace of Willem I in Antwerp classified Máxima as a "pretty duck" and Mathilde as a "gracious swan". Their reasoning was not consistent: "Máxima was never raised to be Queen and at the age of 20 she never knew she would be Queen". Complete bollocks: was Mathilde, living in deep green forests of the Ardennes raised to be Queen? Did she know on the age of 20 she would be Queen?

Then the three experts thought that Amalia should be in public more, like Elisabeth. Again they are not consistent: Elisabeth is years older than Amalia. And in the Netherlands on King's Day we see the princesses live on TV as well for the several photoshoots, sports tournaments, etc. In my assessment there is no difference between Elisabeth and Amalia.

Then the three claimed that Philippe was King of a far more difficult country. That might be true, but again their reasoning was inconsistent: "No matter what Willem-Alexander does, the Dutch will shout Oranje Boven!" Hmm the Dutch King would have wished that was true!

Then they did a bit of Kremlin-watching: the King hugged Felipe and Frederik but did not hug Philippe. Conclusion: the relationship with Spain and Denmark is warmer than with Belgium... Seldom I have seen such fact-free blabla...

as to the maxima and Mathilde....

I think they are pointing out the difference I. She and background. Maxima was 28 when she met her husband. And though her dad was in politics, she lived a pretty simple middle class life. On the other hand Mathilde was 23 when she and Philippe began. At that age she years is a big difference. She was alsp raised in the minor aristocracy. She may not have been raised to be a queen, but she wouldn't have been new to these circles. She would have had a better understanding.

Lee-Z 11-27-2016 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942257)
Then the three experts thought that Amalia should be in public more, like Elisabeth. Again they are not consistent: Elisabeth is years older than Amalia. And in the Netherlands on King's Day we see the princesses live on TV as well for the several photoshoots, sports tournaments, etc. In my assessment there is no difference between Elisabeth and Amalia.

You are entitled to your assessment, but i have to say i agree with the experts in this matter: P.Elisabeth is 2 years older and 2 years ago she wrote and performed her first speech on her own at a WWI remembrance gathering. P.Amalia up until now has been very much "one of the 3A princesses" in public, though it ofcourse it is possible that will change from now on..

Duc_et_Pair 11-27-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee-Z (Post 1942280)
You are entitled to your assessment, but i have to say i agree with the experts in this matter: P.Elisabeth is 2 years older and 2 years ago she wrote and performed her first speech on her own at a WWI remembrance gathering. P.Amalia up until now has been very much "one of the 3A princesses" in public, though it ofcourse it is possible that will change from now on..

We have seen Amalia during the Abdication, the balcony scene, the Investiture and the King's Water Pageant. We have seen her at the King's Days since. We have seen her at the annual winter- and summer photoshoots, at various weddings and baptisms, she has visited the Pope already and recently she answered questions during a street interview. The only difference is that the two years older Elisabeth has spoken three sentences during a WWI remembrance. In my optic the difference is minimal. Given the fact that King's Day (and in a few years also Princes' Day) are annual live broadcasts lasting hours, I am sure Amalia has had more airtime despite the efforts of her parents to keep her away in an attempt to grant her a "normal life".

lucien 11-28-2016 03:38 AM

Anyway,m'n goeie goed is hanging outside catching fresh air.

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 04:23 AM

There is a big article (a page spread) in today's Algemeen Dagblad about the State Visit. Well better said: one sentence about the State Visit and the rest about Laurent, Albert, Delphine and Belgian comedians mocking their own royal family... One would say that Belgians would keep up their royal family towards foreign media, but no... Especially Geert Hoste (a sort of conferencier) had vitriolic comments.

:ermm:

lucien 11-28-2016 05:39 AM

Arrival & welcome at the Royal Palace,Amsterdam.

https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?eventid=1989314

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 06:01 AM

Colourful ceremonial on an ice-cold Dam Square.

eya 11-28-2016 06:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...LSZ9kpCRXo#t=0

VIDEO

Difficult to kiss the Queens with the hats!

iceflower 11-28-2016 06:23 AM

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More pics of day 1!


** ppe gallery **


** gettyimages gallery **


** robinutrecht.photoshelter gallery **


** dpp: King Philippe and Queen Mathilde of Belgium State visit The Netherlands **

Mbruno 11-28-2016 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Countessmeout (Post 1942279)
as to the maxima and Mathilde....

I think they are pointing out the difference I. She and background. Maxima was 28 when she met her husband. And though her dad was in politics, she lived a pretty simple middle class life. On the other hand Mathilde was 23 when she and Philippe began. At that age she years is a big difference. She was alsp raised in the minor aristocracy. She may not have been raised to be a queen, but she wouldn't have been new to these circles. She would have had a better understanding.

Wasn't Maxima's father a wealthy landowner ? I am not familiar with her family, but Argentina is a fairly large country where rural properties tend to be much bigger than the most impressive estates in Britain or France, and even more so than estates in the tiny Benelux countries. As far as Argentinean social hierarchy is concerned, I would suspect then that Maxima was much closer to an equivalent to "landed gentry" than to a "quiet middle-class life". Having said that, I agree that Mathilde, having been born and raised in Europe in a very old aristocratic family, probably had a better understanding of royal court life than Maxima had when she married Willem-Alexander.

On the broader discussion, one cannot ignore the historic background. When the (mostly Protestant at the time) Republic of the Seven Provinces seceded from the Habsburg Netherlands in the 16th century, the Catholic south that is now Belgium remained under Spanish and, later, Austrian rule (when the Spanish branch of the Habsburg family became extinct). Following the occupation of both Belgium and the Netherlands by the French during the Napoleonic era, the Congress of Vienna sought to create a United Kingdom of the Netherlands under Willem I of Orange-Nassau. That united kingdom lasted 15 years or so only, as the Belgians rose against the king in 1830 and established an independent kingdom of their own whose crown was offered in 1831 to Leopold of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

The Belgian revolution was triggered by (at the time) irreconcilible differences between the South and the North over language, religion and the constitution (Willem I having in particular absolutist tendencies, whereas the liberal Belgians wanted a more limited constitutional monarchy). Of course, the context has changed over the past 200 years and Belgium and the Netherlands now enjoy very cordial relations within the European Union, but historic baggage cannot be erased and surfaces occasionally in articles like the ones linked above. Let's not forget that, until today, Belgian law, I believe, forbids any prince or princess of Belgium from marrying a member of the House of Orange-Nassau, reflecting perhaps lingering insecurity over a Dutch annexation of Belgium.

An Ard Ri 11-28-2016 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by eya (Post 1942389)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...LSZ9kpCRXo#t=0

VIDEO

Difficult to kiss the Queens with the hats!

Yes indeed Eya I noticed that too :biggrin:

lucien 11-28-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 1942401)
Yes indeed Eya I noticed that too :biggrin:

Hilarious how Alexander handled..or..ohh wel..got his head around that huge concoction.:rofl:

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 11:10 AM

It is 17.00 hours and I browsed Belgian online frontpages:

Het Laatste Nieuws - nothing
De Standaard - an article about a border correction with a 2 years old picture
De Morgen - nothing
Le Soir - the same article as De Standaard but with a picture from today
La Dernière Heure - nothing
La Libre Belgique - nothing

Two weeks ago the Dutch royal couple visited Australia and New Zealand. In all Dutch newsmedia this was reported, often with photo- and videostreams. The same today.

What a difference. No wonder the Belgians hear or see nothing about their royals: the media simply ignore them (unless it are juicy scandals around Albert, Laurent or Delphine)...

Mbruno 11-28-2016 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942478)
It is 17.00 hours and I browsed Belgian online frontpages:

Het Laatste Nieuws - nothing
De Standaard - an article about a border correction with a 2 years old picture
De Morgen - nothing
Le Soir - the same article as De Standaard but with a picture from today
La Dernière Heure - nothing
La Libre Belgique - nothing

Two weeks ago the Dutch royal couple visited Australia and New Zealand. In all Dutch newsmedia this was reported, often with photo- and videostreams. The same today.

What a difference. No wonder the Belgians hear or see nothing about their royals: the media simply ignore them (unless it are juicy scandals around Albert, Laurent or Delphine)...

I expect there will be some coverage of the state banquet though.

maria-olivia 11-28-2016 12:18 PM

PEE agency will do it !

lucien 11-28-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1942492)
PEE agency will do it !

OH dear...I hope not,I hope PPE agency will step in on time!

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 12:58 PM

Usually a ceremonial battery fom the Corps Riding Artillery fires gunsalutes during the welcome ceremony of a State Visit: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cnnawMCHVaw/maxresdefault.jpg

How was that done today in Amsterdam, since the King came per car? With gunshots from naval frigates?

Nice picture and good that the ceremonial was done in the centre and at the airport! Picture: https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/binari...e-erewacht.jpg

lucien 11-28-2016 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942504)
Usually a ceremonial battery fom the Corps Riding Artillery fires gunsalutes during the welcome ceremony of a State Visit: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cnnawMCHVaw/maxresdefault.jpg

How was that done today in Amsterdam, since the King came per car? With gunshots from naval frigates?

No,none of that.


looking at the members and guests in this thread at this time,I suppose all are awaiting the truly glittering appearances in little under one hour...:)...

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucien (Post 1942511)
No,none of that.

[...]

Really? When King Carl XVI Gustaf arrived for an official visit, a ceremonial battery welcomed him with a thundering salvo:i

https://www.korpsrijdendeartillerie.n...4-2009_017.JPG

An Ard Ri 11-28-2016 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942509)
Nice picture and good that the ceremonial was done in the centre and at the airport! Picture: https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/binari...e-erewacht.jpg

Just noticed some white smoke coming from a chimney at the Palace,would give it a cosy ambiance inside!

wartenberg7 11-28-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942257)
In Belgian media there seem to live mixed feelings about the State Visit: "Finally Philippe can go to a kingdom where everything works normal, he can escape his disfunctional family, he can learn from the true people-players WA and Máxima" (Jan van den Berghe in De Standaard).

But yesterday in the program Blauw Bloed the three Belgian guests in the former palace of Willem I in Antwerp classified Máxima as a "pretty duck" and Mathilde as a "gracious swan". Their reasoning was not consistent: "Máxima was never raised to be Queen and at the age of 20 she never knew she would be Queen". Complete bollocks: was Mathilde, living in deep green forests of the Ardennes raised to be Queen? Did she know on the age of 20 she would be Queen?

Then the three experts thought that Amalia should be in public more, like Elisabeth. Again they are not consistent: Elisabeth is years older than Amalia. And in the Netherlands on King's Day we see the princesses live on TV as well for the several photoshoots, sports tournaments, etc. In my assessment there is no difference between Elisabeth and Amalia.
Then they did a bit of Kremlin-watching: the King hugged Felipe and Frederik but did not hug Philippe. Conclusion: the relationship with Spain and Denmark is warmer than with Belgium... Seldom I have seen such fact-free blabla...


Seems to be the usual gossip talking about things when you don´t really know what to talk about... Well, a state visit as such is nothing exciting to most people so you start talking nonsense to be able to say anything.

Talking about the dutch Queen as a "pretty duck" is really an outrageous thing to say! It´s very different from what is always said about her in the german media where is nothing but praise for Máxima. I cannot recall all these years having ever heard something negative about the Queen here...!

But I remember Mathilde having been compared with Queen Rania this spring and this time it wasn´t really flattering for her, too! Because of her height the writer compared her with a very plump, huge animal (which I don´t recall) - so, everything is in the eye of the beholder.:whistling::ermm:

stephanievl 11-28-2016 02:00 PM

First pic of the state dinner
https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?ShowPicture=48653876

polyesco 11-28-2016 02:00 PM

short video of Mathilde losing her shoe
https://twitter.com/BirgitHerteleer/...09391952875520

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephanievl (Post 1942525)

Great to see such a large group posing.

Fürstin Taxis 11-28-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyesco (Post 1942526)
short video of Mathilde losing her shoe
https://twitter.com/BirgitHerteleer/...09391952875520

Aww. Happened to me too many times lol.

EmmaNL 11-28-2016 02:08 PM

So the Jewels:
- Queen Máxima in the ruby Mellerio parure (her current favourite).
- Queen Mathilde in the Full Nine Provinces
- Princess Beatrix in the diamond bandeau
- Princess Margriet in the Pearl Button tiara
- Princess Laurentien in Queen Emma's floral tiara

After all, no surprises as far as we can see. I had hoped for a very nice jewel surprise.

Spheno 11-28-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephanievl (Post 1942525)

odd sitting plan

Mbruno 11-28-2016 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmmaNL (Post 1942530)
So the Jewels:
- Queen Máxima in the ruby Mellerio parure (her current favourite).
- Queen Mathilde in the Full Nine Provinces
- Princess Beatrix in the diamond bandeau
- Princess Margriet in the Pearl Button tiara
- Princess Laurentien in Queen Emma's floral tiara

After all, no surprises as far as we can see. I had hoped for a very nice jewel surprise.

Hopefully we will get some bigger/closer pictures.

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spheno (Post 1942532)
odd sitting plan

It is protocollary correct:
- the two heads of state in the middle
- flanked by their consorts
- a former head of state given a seat
- the junior royals standing

eya 11-28-2016 02:37 PM

https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?eventid=1989441

https://www.eo.nl/blauwbloed/artikel-...-staatsbanket/


https://1.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:9...7a3&m=dlgcohaf
https://3.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:9...7a3&m=dmpfnmln
https://1.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:9...7a3&m=djibaiho


https://www.rd.nl/vandaag/binnenland/...6#&gid=1&pid=1

polyesco 11-28-2016 02:39 PM

the dinner tonight
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyX4xzrXcAA_8k4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyX3mdbWgAEhlKW.jpg

https://1.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:9...7a3&m=djibaiho
https://1.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:9...7a3&m=dlgcohaf

Duc_et_Pair 11-28-2016 04:13 PM

Just saw parts of the speeches on tv. Wow, what a glitter on my ultra HD screen. Especially Queen Máxima's diamonds were super sparkling. The big glimmers in the arches of the Nine Provinces had a nice softer colour. Hope to find a video soon

maria-olivia 11-28-2016 05:32 PM

Our King and our Queen wearing the greatest Dutch Order are perfect but unconfortable. Super sparkle and soft sparkle .No warm State Visit as during Queen Beatrix Reign !

leidi 11-29-2016 12:45 AM

Mathilde looked SENSATIONAL in her gala outfit, every inch the Queen she is.
Philippe handsome as usual but in white tie he makes me want to ask for a fan :biggrin:
I am not a fan of what Máxima was wearing in the gala but her jewelry was on point as usual ;)

eya 11-29-2016 01:18 AM

Beautiful photos from Robin Utrecht

Check out my STAATSBANKET STAASBEZOEK BELGIE AAN NEDERLAND gallery https://bit.ly/2gC2bqg

cdm 11-29-2016 01:44 AM

Belgian State Visit to The Netherlands: November 28-30, 2016
 
The Queens's favourite couturier Edouard Vermeulen from Natan was present.
https://robinutrecht.photoshelter.com...000yyZGNNyrpY0

QUEENECE29 11-29-2016 02:39 AM

BELGIAN STATE VISIT NETHERLANDS | Selda Göktaş

iceflower 11-29-2016 02:51 AM

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Another extra gallery of the dinner:


** ppe gallery **

Duc_et_Pair 11-29-2016 03:10 AM

The King had warm words for Princess Beatrix, expecially about her relationship with his beloved uncle King Baudouin.

"Your Royal Highness, you know how grateful we are to you, not only for your friendship with my uncle, King Baudouin, and with my father, but also for the support you have offered to us in the years gone." (No idea what King Philippe meant with that).

And during the toast: "There is an already longer friendship between our families, also thanks to you, Princess Beatrix."

ANP Press: "Monday evening the Citizens' Hall in the Royal Palace eyed like a fairytale. The best and the biggest golden tablepieces were placed, beautiful purple orchids gave colour to the tables. As an insider admitted: "For good friends, you take everything out of the shelves" (meaning: exert oneself to the outmost).

eya 11-29-2016 05:40 AM

The second day of the state visit begins with a visit of King Philip at ESA / ESTEC in Noordwijk.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybDHsPWgAQLcCg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybDHshXgAAnRh7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybDHtOXAAAGo53.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybDHsQWIAAHsuN.jpg

Queen Mathilde and Queen Maxima visit the Orange Foods who supports Rooms with Opportunities Combiwell to provide young people who leave school prematurely another chance

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybGfj6WQAAb32h.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybGfj6WIAAPd1x.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybGfj6WEAElxkm.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybGfj4WIAA7RMp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CybHXNVXcAAZoqX.jpg

iceflower 11-29-2016 05:44 AM

:previous:

Galleries of day 2:


** ppe gallery **


** robinutrecht.photoshelter gallery **


** anp gallery ** anp gallery 2 ** gettyimages gallery **


** dpp gallery: King Philippe and Queen Mathilde of Belgium State visit The Netherlands day 2 **


** dailymail: Lady in red! Queen Mathilde of Belgium stuns in a bold scarlet ensemble as she visits a charity in Amsterdam with Queen Maxima **

Lee-Z 11-29-2016 11:38 AM

Don't think it's been mentioned yet, but as part of the visit both countries signed an agreement to make a correction to the joint border between them
https://nos.nl/artikel/2145414-filip-...e-brengen.html
This was done because of practical reasons; the participants state that it might be a unique fact in Europe that two countries change their borders without a war :flowers:

google translated

Thought it was a fun fact to mention here: amongst all the dresses, tiaras and fancy hats :lol:

Andrew 24 11-29-2016 02:18 PM

and finally some photos from today concert
https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?pag...48678102&pos=5
https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?pag...8677817&pos=10
https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?pag...48678111&pos=4

polyesco 11-29-2016 02:20 PM

the concert tonight
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyc0t-aWIAEkNDM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyc0vFuW8AAi0sR.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyc1W4dXEAAfS7d.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/VorstenNL/v...6657880033758/

carlota 11-29-2016 03:30 PM

fantastic pictures this visit has given us so far! i love seeing these 2 couples together, they truly seem to like each other's company.

mathilde and maxima looked slightly tired this morning - i guess it must have been a late night after the banquet last night! :)

eya 11-29-2016 03:52 PM

Belgisch koningspaar bedankt met galaconcert - Blauw Bloed

wartenberg7 11-29-2016 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leidi (Post 1942711)
Mathilde looked SENSATIONAL in her gala outfit, every inch the Queen she is.
Philippe handsome as usual but in white tie he makes me want to ask for a fan :biggrin:
I am not a fan of what Máxima was wearing in the gala but her jewelry was on point as usual ;)

The red in her dress didn´t match the belgian purple sash at all!:ermm:

maria-olivia 11-29-2016 04:04 PM

Prince Constantijn was not that happy. Princess Laurentien great !
Absolutely don't like the queen of the Netherlands green evening dress again too much!

Alisa 11-29-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdm (Post 1942718)
The Queens's favourite couturier Edouard Vermeulen from Natan was present.
https://robinutrecht.photoshelter.com...000yyZGNNyrpY0

I'm confused, why is he there? I can understand if it was a Dutch state visit to Belgium. But why would Vermeulen travel to the Netherlands for a state visit banquet?! Very unusual.

https://www.rd.nl/vandaag/binnenland/...#&gid=1&pid=13

This is a great photo of the couple!https://www.rd.nl/vandaag/binnenland/...#&gid=1&pid=13

cdm 11-29-2016 05:05 PM

Belgian State Visit to The Netherlands: November 28-30, 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa (Post 1942890)
I'm confused, why is he there? I can understand if it was a Dutch state visit to Belgium. But why would Vermeulen travel to the Netherlands for a state visit banquet?! Very unusual.


I guess because he is a mutual frien of both Queens/couples.

Great to read Ozark Henry is part of the concert tlnight.

Countessmeout 11-29-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1942729)
The King had warm words for Princess Beatrix, expecially about her relationship with his beloved uncle King Baudouin.

"Your Royal Highness, you know how grateful we are to you, not only for your friendship with my uncle, King Baudouin, and with my father, but also for the support you have offered to us in the years gone." (No idea what King Philippe meant with that).

And during the toast: "There is an already longer friendship between our families, also thanks to you, Princess Beatrix."

ANP Press: "Monday evening the Citizens' Hall in the Royal Palace eyed like a fairytale. The best and the biggest golden tablepieces were placed, beautiful purple orchids gave colour to the tables. As an insider admitted: "For good friends, you take everything out of the shelves" (meaning: exert oneself to the outmost).

The part us are confused by, I wpuldvthink he is referring to his own reign. Thanking Beatrix for her support to his uncle and his father during their longer reigns. But also to him and Mathilde during their own time on the throne, as short as it has been so far. Even if not queen still, he obviously finds some guidance in her.

Duc_et_Pair 11-30-2016 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa (Post 1942890)
I'm confused, why is he there? I can understand if it was a Dutch state visit to Belgium. But why would Vermeulen travel to the Netherlands for a state visit banquet?! Very unusual.

On invitation of the King and Queen of the Netherlands. As usual during State Visits, businessmen, entrepreneurs, CEO's, athletes, artists, politicians, etc. with links between the two countries were invited for the State Banquet (and eventually the second event). Edouard Vermeulen of course is important to both Queens, but he also has a store in Maastricht, Limbourg (South of the Netherlands): picture and picture. Edouard Vermeulen has now recently expanded furtherer in the Netherlands with a new store in Amsterdam: picture and picture.

lucien 11-30-2016 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eya (Post 1942714)
Beautiful photos from Robin Utrecht

Check out my STAATSBANKET STAASBEZOEK BELGIE AAN NEDERLAND gallery https://bit.ly/2gC2bqg

Robin is the best!!Together with Patrick van Katwijk they are the best Royalty et tout photographers we have!

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1942859)
Prince Constantijn was not that happy. Princess Laurentien great !
Absolutely don't like the queen of the Netherlands green evening dress again too much!

The green matched perfectly...and if she would wear a patatoe bag,she would still outshine all and everyone with ease and without especially being after that effect!She just radiates what others in simular positions lack,her abundant character.Love it.

@ Warttemberg:It did match really,the sash and the red in the dress,blended in perfectly!A pic is just that,a pic,but the reality was a stunning baffling appearance on all fronts by all present!

I thought sweet Filip to be a little absent minded at times,and lacking the enthousiasm and joy his Dutch counterpart showed throughout the visit.They are long time friends so it wasn't as if they"d met for the first time allthough Filip gave the impression he was holding back a bit.He certainly cleared up whenever he saw Princess Beatrix though,a long time family friend and confident as she is to many other RF's.But then the SC's are a special case and so is Belgium.:smile:

iceflower 11-30-2016 04:15 AM

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Two extra ppe galleries and an article from yesterday:


** ppe gallery day 2 - 2 ** ppe gallery day 2 - 3 **


** Dressed to the Maxima! Dutch Queen wins the fashion face-off as she arrives for concert..**



And pics of the final day today, November 30:


** robinutrecht.photoshelter gallery **


** ppe gallery ** anp gallery ** gettyimages gallery **


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRrj6N0xIoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KNF5qDzU1U

Marengo 11-30-2016 05:40 AM

The Queens must have been freezing.The temperature was around 0 degrees celcius.

Very nice that they were using the royal waiting chamber of the Amsterdam central station and the royal train.

Mbruno 11-30-2016 06:26 AM

Just out of curiosity, did King Philippe deliver all his speeches during the state visit in Dutch or did he switch between Dutch and French ? How did he do on that front ?

Duc_et_Pair 11-30-2016 03:59 PM

Great to see the royal pavillion on Amsterdam Central Station and the royal train used! I hope this will become more regular during State Visits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 1943020)
Just out of curiosity, did King Philippe deliver all his speeches during the state visit in Dutch or did he switch between Dutch and French ? How did he do on that front ?

According to monarchie.be the King held three speeches:
- at the State Banquet in the Royal Palace
- at the Government Lunch in the Hall of Knights
- at the return event in the Muziekgebouw aan 't IJ
All three speeches were in Dutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceflower (Post 1942998)

I think the King and Queen of the Belgians will have been surprised by the warmth, enthusiasm and interest with which they were received. I think they will have returned to Belgium with a positive feel.

maria-olivia 11-30-2016 04:49 PM

Why did King Philippe thanks for the many supports? Which ones ??

Duc_et_Pair 11-30-2016 06:09 PM

No idea. As young children Charlotte, Baudouin and Albert did enjoy summers in the Netherlands. But I have never heard about special friendships between the Belgian and Dutch royal family.

iceflower 12-01-2016 02:58 AM

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Here's an extra gallery of the visit to Eindhoven yesterday:


** ppe gallery **


And some more galleries of the first two days:


** pm: Mathilde retrouve Tintin chez Maxima **


** pm: Un dîner d’Etat entre voisines pour Maxima et Mathilde **


** pm: Mathilde et Maxima font bande à part **


** pm: Mathilde et Maxima, reines de beauté à Amsterdam **


Always click on "Plein Ecran" for larger versions of the pm pictures!

Duc_et_Pair 12-01-2016 03:32 AM

The King and Queen were welcomed by Baron and Baroness Samuel van Tuyll van Serooskeren née Jonkvrouw Edmée Röell at Heeze Castle: picture

This is Heeze Castle: picture

After a cosy tête-à-tête te royal couple ended their visit to the Netherlands: picture

I have seen pictures of the grand motor escorte of the Koninklijke Marechaussee driving up the alley to the castle with the royal limousines. It was an impressive sight. A detachement of the honorary escort of the Royal Netherlands Air Force was on the cour of the castle, while Marechaussees lined the red carpet. Pictures will follow.

maria-olivia 12-01-2016 06:38 AM

Prince Constantijn was not that happy during the belgian State Visit.

Baron Brockdorf 12-01-2016 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1943350)
Prince Constantijn was not that happy during the belgian State Visit.

Any reason why?

vkrish 12-01-2016 07:06 AM

I hope there is some other reason than "he wasn't grinning ear-to-ear" in some random pic..

Michiru-Kaiou 12-01-2016 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vkrish (Post 1943355)
I hope there is some other reason than "he wasn't grinning ear-to-ear" in some random pic..

Looks like it, this gallery with plenty pictures of HRH gives you a completely different impression:
20161129 Staatsbezoek Belgie, dag 2 - Images | Fotopersburo Edwin Janssen

best wishes Michiru

Duc_et_Pair 12-01-2016 10:01 AM

Part of the mighty Citizens' Hall in the Royal Palace Amsterdam during the State Banquet: picture

A good view on a beautifully jewelled lady: picture

The Queen of the Belgians between King Willem-Alexander and Prime Minister Mr Rutte: picture

Mbruno 12-02-2016 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1943387)
Part of the mighty Citizens' Hall in the Royal Palace Amsterdam during the State Banquet: picture

A good view on a beautifully jewelled lady: picture

The Queen of the Belgians between King Willem-Alexander and Prime Minister Mr Rutte: picture

Congratulations to both royal couples on a very successful and glamorous state visit !

*Mara* 12-07-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 1943223)
Why did King Philippe thanks for the many supports? Which ones ??

Just a guess but I read that Queen Beatrix took Philippe under her wings a bit since King Albert wasn’t willing or able to act as a mentor for his son. Looks like he found it really important to express his gratitude in public without getting too explicit.


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