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Curryong 09-10-2016 10:18 PM

Oh, Edinburgh in February. Lovely month! It's a wonder it wasn't snowing! And the little page boys were in shirts without jackets!
Claudia's mother (Claudia seems to have been in her mid-30's when she married) was Lady Constance Bowes Lyon, sister to the Queen Mother's father, Claude, the 14th Earl. Therefore Claudia was cousin to the Queen Mum.

This happy couple stayed together, but their only child, a son, Robin, was married three times.

Curryong 09-12-2016 10:48 PM

The year and month Winston Churchill became Prime Minister in the immediate wake of the German invasion of France!

Sarah was a descendant, through a younger son, of Claude 13th Earl of Strathmore, the Queen Mother's grandfather. The groom, obviously in uniform, ended up a Lt Colonel, and the marriage endured, with children.

It's interesting, because although the wedding took place in 1940, clothes rationing was not to begin until the following year, so the bride and bridesmaids could indulge themselves in all the lace and white satin they wanted!

Within a couple of years of this wedding most British brides were going the matching skirt, jacket, pretty hat and sensible shoes route on their wedding day. Also, obviously no milling crowds to be seen. By May 1940 most ordinary people had more things to occupy them than Society weddings!

CyrilVladisla 09-14-2016 10:03 PM

On February 1, 1930 Lady Margaret Douglas-Hamilton married James Drummond-Hay in Salisbury Cathedral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmPrhcmoSDM

On November 22, 1938 Lady Mabel Fox-Strangeways married Ivor Guest, 2nd Viscount Wimnborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66BjOHsnJ_0

Curryong 09-14-2016 11:32 PM

'Another bride, another June...' only it's February, a month that seemed to be reasonably popular for Society weddings between the wars. Lots of crowds and press photographers out in the cold!
James was an officer in the army, and the couple went on to have seven children!

Lady Margaret was born in October 1907, which would surely make her 22 when she wed, not 21 which the title cards for this seems to suggest. Silent films were still being shown in cinemas as this clip illustrates (title cards etc). The fashions are typically very late 1920's, lots of headgear low on the brow. About eight bridesmaids, all adult, (though one sister and potential attendant had died aged twelve a couple of years before) seen parading behind.

Curryong 09-17-2016 12:05 AM

The end of November, another cold month, another huge crowd waiting for the bride and guests to appear.

Lady Mabel was perhaps shy. She had terrible posture judging by this clip and we see her scuttling hunch-backed into the church. Perhaps she didn't like Pathe being present, though it was a bit mean not to give the crowds a bit of a treat.

She was only twenty while the groom was thirty five. Quite an age gap. The marriage endured though, and they had three sons and a daughter.

CyrilVladisla 09-18-2016 08:55 PM

The Duke of Norfolk was Bernard Fitzalan-Howard. He married the Honourable Lavinia Strutt on January 27, 1937.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdTAymxPJ7U

On September 29, 1949 George Lascelles, Earl of Harewood wed Marion Stein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-tDM_NVE8

Curryong 09-18-2016 09:34 PM

You'd think all these people, mostly women, would have something better to do than battle police in cold weather in order to catch a glimpse of a bride none of them would probably even see again. The bride's brother Michael was in the RAF during the war and was killed in the same plane crash as the Duke of Kent.

A Roman Catholic wedding of course. The Howards have always been RC. The couple had children. All girls however, (four of them) so the next heir was a second cousin once removed who was already a peer on his own account.

Denville 09-20-2016 07:36 PM

Perhaps it was a small treate for them, and brightened up their lives.

Curryong 09-20-2016 10:57 PM

Not such bad weather in late September, and of course in a pre Internet and TV age, people did turn out in huge numbers for Society weddings. However, I'm sure royalty was the big draw card on this occasion. Even Queen Mary turned up for the reception!

Marion was an Austrian of Jewish descent who had come to Britain to escape the Nazis, in, I think, about 1938. She was quite a talented concert pianist and of course the Earl was very involved in many aspects of musical life in England.

That marriage produced three sons but was very troubled. The Earl had a son with Patricia Tuckwell, who became his second wife, before it ended, as Marion refused a divorce for a very long time. Then of course she married Jeremy Thorpe, the Liberal leader, who was later mired in controversy.

CyrilVladisla 09-21-2016 10:50 PM

On January 20, 1931 The Honourable Gustavus Hamilton-Russell wed Joan Lloyd-Verney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiOOILiiIyM

In 1931 The Honourable Pamela Bowes-Lyon wed Lord Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=241KNqeth1g

Curryong 09-22-2016 12:25 AM

It's a good job this very young couple didn't know what was ahead of them when they married on a very damp January day. They had two children, a boy and a girl. The girl, Charmian, died aged four in 1937. Joan, the bride in the clip above, died aged 30, a year later. The groom died of his wounds while on active service in France in 1940, during the Dunkirk debacle. He was 32. (His brother Desmond was killed in WW2 as well.) Only the couple's son survived and inherited his grandfather's peerage. In 1942 he became Viscount Boyne at the age of 11.

Curryong 09-22-2016 11:03 PM

Two 'great Scottish Houses' might have united' as the title card says, but not for long, I'm afraid. The bride was cousin to Elizabeth, then Duchess of York. The groom was in the Air Force. They had four children, two boys, two girls, but divorced in 1952. Lord Malcolm married again very quickly afterwards. Pamela waited until 1964 before remarrying. Lord Malcolm had a distinguished flying career during the Second World War, but was killed in a plane crash in 1964, along with his younger son with Pamela, Niall, aged 21.

CyrilVladisla 09-25-2016 10:12 PM

Robert William Jocelyn, Viscount Jocelyn RN was married at St. Margaret's Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gSRcMlb1So

On December 12, 1932 Diana Churchill wed John Bailey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeDMHF9ybJA

In 1931 Lady Jean Dalrymple, the daughter of John Dalrymple, 12th Earl of Stair, married Lt-Colonel Niall Rankin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGl2d5va038

Christopher Finch-Hatton became the 15th Earl of Winchelsea in 1939.
He was Viscount Maidstone on July 10, 1935 when he married Countess Gladys Széchényi. Gladys was the daughter of Count Laszlo Széchényi and Countess Gladys Vanderbilt Széchényi.

Curryong 09-27-2016 10:55 PM

Some pretty bridesmaids wearing low on forehead things again!
Diana was an actress. This marriage featured above lasted only three years before the couple divorced. Then Diana wed Duncan Sandys, a Conservative politician, and had three children but that marriage ended in divorce too. There were several nervous breakdowns and suicide attempts in Diana's life and she became involved in suicide prevention groups and organisations. She herself took an overdose of sleeping pills in 1963 and unfortunately died.

Curryong 10-03-2016 10:49 PM

Extraordinary how many British cinemas still weren't fitted for sound in 1931.

This is an interesting article on Lady Jean, a personal friend of the Queen Mother into old age, and a Woman of the Bedchamber for over forty years. Lady Jean was also a go-between during the Princess Margaret-Peter Townsend romance and its aftermath. I loved the story of how the groom met his father for the first time and was left his fortune because his father was so charmed by his fiancée!

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/22/wo...ther.html?_r=0

CyrilVladisla 10-08-2016 10:31 PM

George Villiers, Earl of Jersey married Patricia Richards on January 12, 1932.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqoFchJ4eQ

On January 17, 1934 Lord Martin Cecil married Miss Edith Csanady de Telegd. Miss Edith was Hungarian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0aZNZD2Us
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Curryong 10-09-2016 02:27 AM

Married in January, and the bridesmaids in short-sleeved coloured chiffon! Brrrh! Anyway this marriage didn't last very long, they were very young, at 21 and 19. They had one daughter, who was also a multiple wedder! The bride was Australian. She married again and had another daughter. Her second husband was killed in 1944, during the war. The Earl married three times altogether. His second wife was an ex of Cary Grant's, the actress,Virginia Cherrill. No children. He had sons with his third wife, with whom he was apparently happy.

Countessmeout 10-12-2016 10:39 PM

Martin was the son of the 5th marques of Exeter and succeeded is older brother in the 80s. His son with Edith. Michael, is the current. Martin later would marry a woman named Lilian with whom he had 2 daughters. His elder brother was an olympic medalist in track and one of his daughters was a long time friend and lady in waiting to the queen mum.

CyrilVladisla 10-14-2016 08:46 PM

James Graham, The Marquis of Graham wed Miss Isobel Sellar on October 30, 1930.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqbhUjzZCKE

In 1930 the Honourable Joan Loch married Guy Neumann.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxBzg7Uqv0

MAfan 10-16-2016 06:47 AM

James Graham (1907-1992) was at the time the eldest son and heir of the Duke of Montrose (and thus held the courtesy title of Marquess of Graham). He succeeded to the Dukedom in 1954.
He and Isobel became parents of one son (the present Duke) and one daughter, before divorcing in 1950. She later died in 1990.


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