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CyrilVladisla 08-21-2016 10:05 PM

Christopher Tennant, 2nd Baron Glenconner and Pamela Paget married in Wells Cathedral in Somerset on September 25, 1925.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZodbBsEOt8

The Honourable Michael Bowes-Lyon and Elizabeth (Betty) Cator at St. George's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVbc3T8WIi4

The wedding of Michael and Elizabeth (Betty) took place on February 2, 1928.

Curryong 08-22-2016 12:13 AM

I'm awfully sorry, and Miss Paget seems a pretty girl, but the low on the brow head coverings that brides and others wore in the 1920's, especially with lappets hanging either side, were just foul, IMHO. The Queen Mother's was much the same. They hid the hair and if women were at all plain that look didn't help any!

On the other hand the little bridal attendant looks extremely cute!

(This couple were divorced in 1935, and Lord G married again very soon afterwards!)

Curryong 08-22-2016 10:18 PM

Extraordinary scenes really! In a pre TV, pre Internet age, on a very rainy day, hundreds of men and women struggle to catch a glimpse of an upper middleclass bride who's marrying a minor Scottish aristocrat, albeit a brother of the Duchess of York. In fact they are so determined to see her that the police are having trouble controlling them! Yet those sort of scenes happened again and again when smart Society weddings occurred.

Thena 08-23-2016 12:26 PM

I'm amazed that the cars made it through the crowd. I'm even more amazed that no one got run over!

All this for the son of an earl who had five older brothers and a snowball's chance of inheriting? And yet strangely enough, Michael's brothers and nephews either died unmarried or only produced daughters. As a result, Michael and Elizabeth's son became the 17th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.

Osipi 08-23-2016 10:37 PM

People were just as geared up for a big wedding in 1928 as they are today. I would never have thought that many people would have congregated for the wedding of someone that wasn't directly in the royal family itself.

Even the rain didn't deter them and the police sure had their hands full. :biggrin:

Curryong 08-23-2016 11:20 PM

The bride was a close friend of the Duchess of York and had been one of her bridesmaids. I don't know whether the Yorks were present (they probably were) but maybe the crowds were expectant of seeing them, as they were very popular royals.

Having said that, I think being in the crowd watching Society people arrive and depart for a family wedding was a form of mass entertainment in those days. I remember reading a biography of Joyce Grenfell, who was a popular British entertainer of the 1950's. She was upper middleclass and well connected, related to the Viscount Astor and his wife Margot, of Cliveden notoriety. When Joyce married in the 1920's to another upper middleclass person, the crowds turned out to gawk at that one as well, though not in such numbers as above!

CyrilVladisla 08-26-2016 09:21 PM

In 1936 Ruth Runciman married the son of Lady Hopetoun in Embleton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6OVFRdw8Xc

Lady Patricia Douglas married Count John Gerard de Forest at Brompton Oratory in 1938.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdr-efTmbqU

Lady Patricia Douglas was the daughter of Francis Archibald Douglas, 11th Marquess of Queensberry and Irene Richards.
John Gerard de Forest was the son of Maurice de Forest, Grof von Bendem.

Curryong 08-26-2016 10:52 PM

Why do all these weddings seem to take place in such terrible weather? :lol: People in the crowds waiting patiently were rugged up in thick tweed coats. When did this wedding take place? June? :lol:

Anyway, this one ended in tears, with a divorce in 1950. What a tragic family the Douglases are, at least the Queensbury branch. Lots of mental illness for generation after generation.

Curryong 08-27-2016 10:25 PM

Yes, the groom was a well known amateur golf champion in the 1930's.

Countessmeout 08-27-2016 11:01 PM

The bride was 1/2 sisters with well known artist Anne Dunn. Patricia was her parents only child, divorcing when she was 7. The Marquis married twice more, having 1 son and 2 other girls. Mother Irene married Canadian steel magnate Sir James Dunn (2nd of his 3 wives) and had Ann. Her father's Uncle was known for his affair with Oscar Wilde and his dad got Wilde convicted.

CyrilVladisla 08-28-2016 09:23 PM

Lady Mary Crichton-Stuart married Edward Walker on her birthday, May 8, 1933 at Brompton Abbey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlJMXY6x7gI

Lady Mary Crichton-Stuart was the daughter of John Crichton-Stuart, 4th Marquess of Bute and Augusta Bellingham.
Edward Walker was the son of Arthur Walker.

CyrilVladisla 08-30-2016 10:25 PM

Patricia Ravenscrof and Sir Walter de Stopham Barttelot were married at Storrington, West Sussex on May 7, 1938.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdkubTqtiw

Miss Jessamine Gordon and Michael Harmsworth November 2, 1937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aHecThHSWs

Miss Jessamine Gordon was the daughter of Dudley Gladstone Gordon, 3rd Marquess of Aberdeen and Temair and Cécile Drummond Gordon.
Michael Harmsworth's full name was Stanley George Michael St. John Harmsworth. He was the son of Vyvyan George and Constance Harmsworth.

Countessmeout 08-31-2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 1920325)
Lady Mary Crichton-Stuart was the daughter of John Crichton-Stuart, 4th Marquess of Bute and Augusta Bellingham.
Edward Walker was the son of Arthur Walker.

Wedding of her parents, one of 1st such weddings filmed
Full record for 'WEDDING OF THE 4TH MARQUESS OF BUTE 1905, the' (6774) - Moving Image Archive catalogue

CyrilVladisla 09-02-2016 09:44 PM

Lady Hermione Bulwer-Lytton married Cameron Fromanteel Cobbold in 1930.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTt7i-IHhzo

Lady Hermione was Lady Margaret Hermione Millicent Bulwer-Lytton. She was the daughter of Victor Bulwer-Lytton, 2nd Earl of Lytton.
Cameron Cobbold eventually became 1st Baron Cobbold.

In 1937 Lady Letitia Sibell Winifred Cecil and Henry Frederick Hotham were married at St. Martin's Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3goZfWpTg

CyrilVladisla 09-06-2016 10:44 PM

Prince Ernest of Hohenburg married Marie-Thérčse Wood on May 25, 1936.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dine1dIMoQ

On June 18, 1938 Honourable Valerie Mansfield and Lord George Parker were married at Upper Sherringham, Norfolk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khhu85a1luA

The Honourable Valerie Mansfield was the daughter of Ralph Mansfield, 4th Baron Sandhurst.

Curryong 09-06-2016 11:33 PM

At least it's not raining for this wedding and this one didnt end in divorce! :lol: Prince Ernst (the son of Archduke Franz Ferdinand) looks a fair bit older than his bride, though he wasn't. It actually must have been quite difficult for Marie-Therese during the war, with her father being a British diplomat. Even worse for Ernst though, who was anti-Nazi and in concentration camps until 1943 and never really recovered, dying quite young.

Curryong 09-07-2016 10:55 PM

This one's close to home for me. The bride's mother was a member of the Upcher family of Sheringham Hall, and I come from Sheringham in Norfolk. I can remember the last Upcher who lived there. He was a bachelor, an only son and no children, and so a very old family came to an end in the direct line.

This couple became the 8th Earl and Countess of Macclesfield. I believe there was some scandal or row involving the present Earl, their grandson. He was evicted from his home or something.

royal rob 09-07-2016 11:41 PM

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Countessmeout 09-08-2016 12:00 AM

The issue comes that the earls grandfather turned the castle into a trust. And every male member was entitled to a share of the company it formed. Unfortunately for the earl, his cousin Robert as the only male left in his branch, holds majority shares in the company. The company wanted the earl and his wife to pay rent to remain which is why they went to court. The earl and his wife lost. They have two years to move. The castle though is a shell, most not even modernized with electricity. The earl seems to actually come out the better. The actual castle which needs millions in repairs he still owns shares in even if not living there. But all its contents belong to him. All the furniture, priceless art work, antique books and more are private possessions of the earl. Only the actual building was in trust.

CyrilVladisla 09-10-2016 09:53 PM

On February 26, 1935 Claudia Blackburn and The Honourable James Duthac Carnegie were married at St. Mary's Cathedral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RwcB07MqTU

The Honourable James Carnegie was the son of Charles Carnegie, 10th Earl of Southesk.

On May 29, 1940 Lady Sarah Bowes-Lyon married Peter Dudley Ryder at Westminster Abbey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNgwHNZlkWQ

Curryong 09-10-2016 10:18 PM

Oh, Edinburgh in February. Lovely month! It's a wonder it wasn't snowing! And the little page boys were in shirts without jackets!
Claudia's mother (Claudia seems to have been in her mid-30's when she married) was Lady Constance Bowes Lyon, sister to the Queen Mother's father, Claude, the 14th Earl. Therefore Claudia was cousin to the Queen Mum.

This happy couple stayed together, but their only child, a son, Robin, was married three times.

Curryong 09-12-2016 10:48 PM

The year and month Winston Churchill became Prime Minister in the immediate wake of the German invasion of France!

Sarah was a descendant, through a younger son, of Claude 13th Earl of Strathmore, the Queen Mother's grandfather. The groom, obviously in uniform, ended up a Lt Colonel, and the marriage endured, with children.

It's interesting, because although the wedding took place in 1940, clothes rationing was not to begin until the following year, so the bride and bridesmaids could indulge themselves in all the lace and white satin they wanted!

Within a couple of years of this wedding most British brides were going the matching skirt, jacket, pretty hat and sensible shoes route on their wedding day. Also, obviously no milling crowds to be seen. By May 1940 most ordinary people had more things to occupy them than Society weddings!

CyrilVladisla 09-14-2016 10:03 PM

On February 1, 1930 Lady Margaret Douglas-Hamilton married James Drummond-Hay in Salisbury Cathedral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmPrhcmoSDM

On November 22, 1938 Lady Mabel Fox-Strangeways married Ivor Guest, 2nd Viscount Wimnborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66BjOHsnJ_0

Curryong 09-14-2016 11:32 PM

'Another bride, another June...' only it's February, a month that seemed to be reasonably popular for Society weddings between the wars. Lots of crowds and press photographers out in the cold!
James was an officer in the army, and the couple went on to have seven children!

Lady Margaret was born in October 1907, which would surely make her 22 when she wed, not 21 which the title cards for this seems to suggest. Silent films were still being shown in cinemas as this clip illustrates (title cards etc). The fashions are typically very late 1920's, lots of headgear low on the brow. About eight bridesmaids, all adult, (though one sister and potential attendant had died aged twelve a couple of years before) seen parading behind.

Curryong 09-17-2016 12:05 AM

The end of November, another cold month, another huge crowd waiting for the bride and guests to appear.

Lady Mabel was perhaps shy. She had terrible posture judging by this clip and we see her scuttling hunch-backed into the church. Perhaps she didn't like Pathe being present, though it was a bit mean not to give the crowds a bit of a treat.

She was only twenty while the groom was thirty five. Quite an age gap. The marriage endured though, and they had three sons and a daughter.

CyrilVladisla 09-18-2016 08:55 PM

The Duke of Norfolk was Bernard Fitzalan-Howard. He married the Honourable Lavinia Strutt on January 27, 1937.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdTAymxPJ7U

On September 29, 1949 George Lascelles, Earl of Harewood wed Marion Stein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-tDM_NVE8

Curryong 09-18-2016 09:34 PM

You'd think all these people, mostly women, would have something better to do than battle police in cold weather in order to catch a glimpse of a bride none of them would probably even see again. The bride's brother Michael was in the RAF during the war and was killed in the same plane crash as the Duke of Kent.

A Roman Catholic wedding of course. The Howards have always been RC. The couple had children. All girls however, (four of them) so the next heir was a second cousin once removed who was already a peer on his own account.

Denville 09-20-2016 07:36 PM

Perhaps it was a small treate for them, and brightened up their lives.

Curryong 09-20-2016 10:57 PM

Not such bad weather in late September, and of course in a pre Internet and TV age, people did turn out in huge numbers for Society weddings. However, I'm sure royalty was the big draw card on this occasion. Even Queen Mary turned up for the reception!

Marion was an Austrian of Jewish descent who had come to Britain to escape the Nazis, in, I think, about 1938. She was quite a talented concert pianist and of course the Earl was very involved in many aspects of musical life in England.

That marriage produced three sons but was very troubled. The Earl had a son with Patricia Tuckwell, who became his second wife, before it ended, as Marion refused a divorce for a very long time. Then of course she married Jeremy Thorpe, the Liberal leader, who was later mired in controversy.

CyrilVladisla 09-21-2016 10:50 PM

On January 20, 1931 The Honourable Gustavus Hamilton-Russell wed Joan Lloyd-Verney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiOOILiiIyM

In 1931 The Honourable Pamela Bowes-Lyon wed Lord Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=241KNqeth1g

Curryong 09-22-2016 12:25 AM

It's a good job this very young couple didn't know what was ahead of them when they married on a very damp January day. They had two children, a boy and a girl. The girl, Charmian, died aged four in 1937. Joan, the bride in the clip above, died aged 30, a year later. The groom died of his wounds while on active service in France in 1940, during the Dunkirk debacle. He was 32. (His brother Desmond was killed in WW2 as well.) Only the couple's son survived and inherited his grandfather's peerage. In 1942 he became Viscount Boyne at the age of 11.

Curryong 09-22-2016 11:03 PM

Two 'great Scottish Houses' might have united' as the title card says, but not for long, I'm afraid. The bride was cousin to Elizabeth, then Duchess of York. The groom was in the Air Force. They had four children, two boys, two girls, but divorced in 1952. Lord Malcolm married again very quickly afterwards. Pamela waited until 1964 before remarrying. Lord Malcolm had a distinguished flying career during the Second World War, but was killed in a plane crash in 1964, along with his younger son with Pamela, Niall, aged 21.

CyrilVladisla 09-25-2016 10:12 PM

Robert William Jocelyn, Viscount Jocelyn RN was married at St. Margaret's Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gSRcMlb1So

On December 12, 1932 Diana Churchill wed John Bailey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeDMHF9ybJA

In 1931 Lady Jean Dalrymple, the daughter of John Dalrymple, 12th Earl of Stair, married Lt-Colonel Niall Rankin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGl2d5va038

Christopher Finch-Hatton became the 15th Earl of Winchelsea in 1939.
He was Viscount Maidstone on July 10, 1935 when he married Countess Gladys Széchényi. Gladys was the daughter of Count Laszlo Széchényi and Countess Gladys Vanderbilt Széchényi.

Curryong 09-27-2016 10:55 PM

Some pretty bridesmaids wearing low on forehead things again!
Diana was an actress. This marriage featured above lasted only three years before the couple divorced. Then Diana wed Duncan Sandys, a Conservative politician, and had three children but that marriage ended in divorce too. There were several nervous breakdowns and suicide attempts in Diana's life and she became involved in suicide prevention groups and organisations. She herself took an overdose of sleeping pills in 1963 and unfortunately died.

Curryong 10-03-2016 10:49 PM

Extraordinary how many British cinemas still weren't fitted for sound in 1931.

This is an interesting article on Lady Jean, a personal friend of the Queen Mother into old age, and a Woman of the Bedchamber for over forty years. Lady Jean was also a go-between during the Princess Margaret-Peter Townsend romance and its aftermath. I loved the story of how the groom met his father for the first time and was left his fortune because his father was so charmed by his fiancée!

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/22/wo...ther.html?_r=0

CyrilVladisla 10-08-2016 10:31 PM

George Villiers, Earl of Jersey married Patricia Richards on January 12, 1932.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqoFchJ4eQ

On January 17, 1934 Lord Martin Cecil married Miss Edith Csanady de Telegd. Miss Edith was Hungarian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0aZNZD2Us
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Curryong 10-09-2016 02:27 AM

Married in January, and the bridesmaids in short-sleeved coloured chiffon! Brrrh! Anyway this marriage didn't last very long, they were very young, at 21 and 19. They had one daughter, who was also a multiple wedder! The bride was Australian. She married again and had another daughter. Her second husband was killed in 1944, during the war. The Earl married three times altogether. His second wife was an ex of Cary Grant's, the actress,Virginia Cherrill. No children. He had sons with his third wife, with whom he was apparently happy.

Countessmeout 10-12-2016 10:39 PM

Martin was the son of the 5th marques of Exeter and succeeded is older brother in the 80s. His son with Edith. Michael, is the current. Martin later would marry a woman named Lilian with whom he had 2 daughters. His elder brother was an olympic medalist in track and one of his daughters was a long time friend and lady in waiting to the queen mum.

CyrilVladisla 10-14-2016 08:46 PM

James Graham, The Marquis of Graham wed Miss Isobel Sellar on October 30, 1930.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqbhUjzZCKE

In 1930 the Honourable Joan Loch married Guy Neumann.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxBzg7Uqv0

MAfan 10-16-2016 06:47 AM

James Graham (1907-1992) was at the time the eldest son and heir of the Duke of Montrose (and thus held the courtesy title of Marquess of Graham). He succeeded to the Dukedom in 1954.
He and Isobel became parents of one son (the present Duke) and one daughter, before divorcing in 1950. She later died in 1990.

Curryong 10-16-2016 07:35 AM

The couple must have gone out to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) to farm in the early years of their marriage, as the present Duke was born there. The Marquess stayed there for several years as he was a member of the Rhodesian parliament and held ministerial office on several occasions. He had four children by his second wife, the youngest born thirty years after this wedding!

CyrilVladisla 10-19-2016 10:14 PM

On September 27, 1937 Lady Diana Legge married The Honourable John Hamilton Russell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e738PCoS6NM

On April 28, 1936 Lady Angela Montagu Douglas Scot wed Vice Admiral Sir Peter Dawnay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBzKAToUvfA

Curryong 10-23-2016 01:09 AM

Huge throngs of people again, probably hoping that the Gloucesters and maybe other royalty, would turn up. At least not freezing weather this time, although rain in April isn't exactly unknown. The couple had three children, but one died in infancy. The third offspring appeared in the year after the end of the war, a quite common occurrence! The Dawnays' only son joined the army, a bit strange with his father a distinguished naval man, but, oh well!

CyrilVladisla 10-27-2016 09:36 PM

John Anthony Hardinge Giffard, future 3rd Earl of Halsbury married Ismay Crichton Stuart on October 1, 1930.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZKFVZ4gTwU

On January 7, 1932 The Honourable Maysie Loch wed Ian Lindsay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKKtNkJKM4

Curryong 10-28-2016 12:37 AM

Looks like this couple married at Falkland Palace, Fifeshire, a beautiful old Scottish hunting lodge of the Kings of Scotland, in the ownership later of the Marquesses of Bute, the bride's family. The marriage, in spite of this, the attendant Girl Guide troop and the ten bridesmaids, didn't withstand the test of time however. After six years and two children the couple were divorced. They both remarried quickly, very quickly in the Earl's case. He had a new bride installed before Christmas 1936. Ismay, the bride here, didn't waste time crying into her soup either. She remarried in August 1937. Their son Adam (unusual first name for someone born in the 1930's) succeeded his father as Earl but doesn't use his title.

CyrilVladisla 11-14-2016 10:08 PM

The wedding of Charles Greville, Earl of Warwick 1933
 
On July 11, 1933 Charles Greville, 7th Earl of Warwick married Rose Bingham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXP_lOSeSqk
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Curryong 11-14-2016 10:55 PM

All the village women gathered to inspect and comment later!

This is another union that didn't survive. The bride was very young when she married, just 20. There was one child, who became the 8th Earl, and then divorce in 1938. Something tells me that it might have had something to do with Rose's feelings rather than the Earl's as, although he married twice more, his next venture into matrimony was in 1942.

Rose on the other hand leaped from the divorce court to matrimony in one fell swoop, marrying again in September 1938. This was to a wealthy American called Fiske, who was an Olympic champion and lived one heck of a life.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...03/theobserver


Sadly this marriage did not last long as he was killed in action in August 1940, during the Battle of Britain, the first American-born pilot to do so.

CyrilVladisla 11-23-2016 04:45 PM

On April 26, 1932 John Crichton-Stuart, Earl of Dumefries married Lady Eileen Forbes, the daughter of the Earl of Granard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_eDNWrdHE

On April 29, 1939 Lady Diana Percy wed John Sutherland Egerton, 6th Duke of Sutherland at Westminster Abbey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWejvNjYgs

Curryong 11-23-2016 10:01 PM

The groom was heir to the Marquis of Bute and inherited the title in his turn. He was a keen ornithologist and bought the Isles of St Kilda which were left to the nation for use as a bird sanctuary.

The village turned out for this young couple, including 'the tenantry'! The commentary was in those very clipped tones adopted by broadcasters in those days which you never hear now.

Lady Eileen the bride, whose mother was an American heiress, immediately embarked on baby-bearing duties. Boy twins were born about nine months after the wedding, followed by another son and then, after a long gap, a daughter.

CyrilVladisla 03-01-2018 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 1920078)
Lady Mary Crichton-Stuart was the daughter of John Crichton-Stuart, 4th Marquess of Bute and Augusta Bellingham.
Edward Walker was the son of Arthur Walker.

Lady Mary married Edward Walker on May 8, 1933 at Brompton Abbey.
She had four bridesmaids. One was Scottish. One was Hungarian. One was Brazilian. One was Spanish.

CyrilVladisla 03-05-2018 04:15 PM

The wedding party of Marion and George Lascelles on September 29, 1949
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/s...-wedding-party

CyrilVladisla 04-05-2018 04:36 PM

Winston Churchill and his daughter Mary arrive for her wedding to Captain Christopher Soames of the Coldstream Guards on February 11, 1947.
https://www.gettyimages.com/license/52629629
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Winston Churchill and his daughter Diana arrive for her wedding to Duncan Sandys MP in September 1935.
https://www.gettyimages.com/license/3141484

Blog Real 04-06-2018 12:18 PM

Wedding Princess Isabelle and Earl Bruno d'Harcourt (1923)

On September 12, 1923, Princess Isabelle (1900-1983), daughter of the duke and duchess of Guise, married Count Bruno d'Harcourt (1899-1930) in a civil union in Chesnay in the Yvelines, on the edge of the castle of Versailles.

In this photo, the family poses on the steps of Bellevue Castle, residence in Paris of the Queen D.Amélia.

In the front row the Duke of Guise, Count Bruno d'Harcourt, Princess Isabelle, Queen D.Amélia holding the arm of the young Prince Henri (15 years) future Count of Paris and the Duchess of Guise. Behind her, King Manuel II of Portugal and his wife D. Augusta Victoria.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CNlZ107Ub...0/unnamed8.jpg
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