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Julia 01-15-2003 07:51 PM

The Royal House of Prussia
 
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Arms of the Kaiser

The Houses of Hohenzollern

The Imperial and Royal House of Prussia
The Princely House of Hohenzollern (-Sigmaringen)



Info from Netty's Royal Page (EXCELLENT site...highly recommend it)

Georg Friedrich Prince of Prussia
Full name: Georg Friedrich Ferdinand
Title: Prince of Prussia (His Imperial and Royal Highness)
Born: Bremen, Germany, June 10th, 1976

Parents: Louis-Ferdinand Prince of Prussia (1944-1977) and 1975, Donata countess of Castell-Rüdenhausen (1950)
Stephfather: Friedrich August Duke of Oldenburg (1936)
Sister: Cornelie Cécile (1978)
Steph-brother: Paul (1969, married)
Steph-sisters: Rixa (1970) and Bibiane (1974)

Education: School in Bremen; Gymnasium, Oldenburg in Holstein, Germany (2 years, around 1991); Glenalmond College, Aberdeen, Scotland (-1996) - A-levels'; German Army (1996-1998) - Gebirgsjägern (German Mountain Troops) in the Mittenwald; Technical University of Freiberg, Saxony (1998-) - business administration; trainees in Germany and abroad, among others at a German Internet company (2000) and stayed for a few months in Ecuador.

Personality: spontaneous, punctual, sense of duty.

Hobbies: history, mountain-biking, judo, taekwondo, travelling, hunting and shooting.

Further facts: Grew up in Fischerhude near Bremen, Germany. Head of the Royal Family of Prussia since September 25th, 1994. 1.93m tall. Chairman of the Prinzessin Kira von Preussen Stiftung.


Julia

Julia 01-15-2003 07:51 PM

The Royal House of Prussia
 
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Arms of the Kaiser

The Houses of Hohenzollern

The Imperial and Royal House of Prussia




Info from Netty's Royal Page (EXCELLENT site...highly recommend it)

Georg Friedrich Prince of Prussia
Full name: Georg Friedrich Ferdinand
Title: Prince of Prussia (His Imperial and Royal Highness)
Born: Bremen, Germany, June 10th, 1976

Parents: Louis-Ferdinand Prince of Prussia (1944-1977) and 1975, Donata countess of Castell-Rüdenhausen (1950)
Stephfather: Friedrich August Duke of Oldenburg (1936)
Sister: Cornelie Cécile (1978)
Steph-brother: Paul (1969, married)
Steph-sisters: Rixa (1970) and Bibiane (1974)

Education: School in Bremen; Gymnasium, Oldenburg in Holstein, Germany (2 years, around 1991); Glenalmond College, Aberdeen, Scotland (-1996) - A-levels'; German Army (1996-1998) - Gebirgsjägern (German Mountain Troops) in the Mittenwald; Technical University of Freiberg, Saxony (1998-) - business administration; trainees in Germany and abroad, among others at a German Internet company (2000) and stayed for a few months in Ecuador.

Personality: spontaneous, punctual, sense of duty.

Hobbies: history, mountain-biking, judo, taekwondo, travelling, hunting and shooting.

Further facts: Grew up in Fischerhude near Bremen, Germany. Head of the Royal Family of Prussia since September 25th, 1994. 1.93m tall. Chairman of the Prinzessin Kira von Preussen Stiftung.


Julia

Julia 01-15-2003 07:51 PM

The Royal House of Prussia
 
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Arms of the Kaiser

The Houses of Hohenzollern

The Imperial and Royal House of Prussia
The Princely House of Hohenzollern (-Sigmaringen)



Info from Netty's Royal Page (EXCELLENT site...highly recommend it)

Georg Friedrich Prince of Prussia
Full name: Georg Friedrich Ferdinand
Title: Prince of Prussia (His Imperial and Royal Highness)
Born: Bremen, Germany, June 10th, 1976

Parents: Louis-Ferdinand Prince of Prussia (1944-1977) and 1975, Donata countess of Castell-Rüdenhausen (1950)
Stephfather: Friedrich August Duke of Oldenburg (1936)
Sister: Cornelie Cécile (1978)
Steph-brother: Paul (1969, married)
Steph-sisters: Rixa (1970) and Bibiane (1974)

Education: School in Bremen; Gymnasium, Oldenburg in Holstein, Germany (2 years, around 1991); Glenalmond College, Aberdeen, Scotland (-1996) - A-levels'; German Army (1996-1998) - Gebirgsjägern (German Mountain Troops) in the Mittenwald; Technical University of Freiberg, Saxony (1998-) - business administration; trainees in Germany and abroad, among others at a German Internet company (2000) and stayed for a few months in Ecuador.

Personality: spontaneous, punctual, sense of duty.

Hobbies: history, mountain-biking, judo, taekwondo, travelling, hunting and shooting.

Further facts: Grew up in Fischerhude near Bremen, Germany. Head of the Royal Family of Prussia since September 25th, 1994. 1.93m tall. Chairman of the Prinzessin Kira von Preussen Stiftung.


Julia

Idriel 09-26-2005 12:25 PM

The Royal House of Prussia
 
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So apparently there was a certain Concert Princesse Kira.

Lots of German princes. The last one is Georg von Prussia. I have no idea for the others, I let the specialist do their job... :p

From Sergio press

Warren 09-27-2005 10:38 AM

List of Princes...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Idriel
So apparently there was a certain Concert Princesse Kira.
Lots of German princes. The last one is Georg von Prussia. I have no idea for the others, I let the specialist do their job... :p

Thank you for the pics Idriel, and the challenge. With the assistance of my magnifying glass (to decipher the tiny captions) and an Almanach de Gotha, here is the list:

row 1
1. HI&RH George Friedrich, Prince of Prussia, Head of the Imperial and Royal House of Prussia, Head of the House of Hohenzollern.
2. HRH Princess Christa of Prussia; Mr xxx; HRH Princess Felicitas of Prussia (sisters)
3. probably HIllH Count Philip zu Castell-Rüdenhausen (son of Rupert below); Prince Lelie Nicolo Orsini
4. HH Duchess Donata of Oldenburg; HIllH Count Rupert zu Castell-Rüdenhausen
row 2
1. HSH Erbprinzessin (Hereditary Princess) Alexandra von Hohenzollern; HSH Erbprinz (Hereditary Prince) Karl Friedrich von Hohenzollern; HIllH Countess Alexandra zu Castell-Rüdenhausen (wife of Rupert above)
2. Prince Raimondo Orsini; his wife Pricess Katherine neé Bagration; and daughter Princess Luisa Eleonora Orsini
3. HRH Prince Franz Friedrich of Prussia and his wife HRH Princess Susann
4. HRH Princess Christa (again); Mrs xxx
row 3
1. HSH Albrecht, 3rd Fürst zu Castell-Castell; Mrs xxx
2. Count Bjorn Bernadotte (Mainu branch; ABBA lives on!)

Princess Kira of Prussia was the daughter of Prince Louis Ferdinand of Prussia, Head of the Imperial House. She was involved in cultural and artistic pursuits, and died last year. This concert was no doubt in tribute to her memory. I understand her daughter Kira-Maria is setting up a foundation in her mother's name.
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Idriel 09-27-2005 05:41 PM

Good, but can you read German?
 
Warren, I knew you would be the one up to the challenge, but I have to confess I doubted the depth of your knowledge (or rather the strength of your magnifying glass). Mia culpa, mia maxima culpa!

Well in case you want more, here an article about the party:

60. Wohltätigkeitskonzert der Prinzessin Kira von Preussen-Stiftung

Bei strahlendem Wetter fand am 24. September 2005 das
60. Wohltätigkeitskonzert der Prinzessin Kira von Preussen Stiftung auf der Burg Hohenzollern bei Hechingen statt.

Für das diesjährige Konzert wurden der russische Pianist Dimitri Vinnik und das Amira-Quartett aus München gewonnen, Preisträger zahlreicher Musikwettbewerbe im In- und Ausland. Mit großem Applaus wurden das Klavierkonzert A-Dur KV 414 von Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart und das Klavierkonzert F-Moll von Cesar Franck aufgenommen. [...]

bad_barbarella 11-24-2005 05:33 PM

The official king of Prussia lives in Australia... even though the family doesnt rule anymore i know the man who has the official documentation...

It will come out in the media in a few years time

Warren 11-24-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bad_barbarella
The official king of Prussia lives in Australia... even though the family doesnt rule anymore i know the man who has the official documentation...

You will have to provide more information.
The Kaiser, Wilhelm II, was the last German Emperor and King of Prussia. His eldest son was Crown Prince Wilhelm. His eldest son predeceased his father in 1940, and had two daughters. Crown Prince Wilhelm's second son was Prince Louis Ferdinand, Head of the Imperial and Royal House of Prussia. His two eldest sons renounced their rights on their unequal marriages. Louis Ferdinand's third son, also named Prince Louis Ferdinand, died tragically in an accident during army manoeuvres in 1977. His only son, Georg Friedrich, Prince of Prussia, b 1976 is the current Head of the House and de juré King of Prussia.

Where is the Australian connection? And how can this person be the "official" King of Prussia when Georg Friedrich is the acknowledged and undisputed Head of the Hohenzollerns?
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bad_barbarella 11-26-2005 07:03 PM

sorry obviously i have the wrong facts... does the royal famiy have a web site at all?

Warren 11-26-2005 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bad_barbarella
sorry obviously i have the wrong facts... does the royal famiy have a web site at all?

Yes! Here is the link to the Official Website of the House of Hohenzollern:

https://www.preussen.de/en/today.html
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zanychick3000 01-07-2006 06:49 PM

Any recent news on the..
 
Former Prussian royal families, I havent heard anything new about Prince Georg Friedrich. I also wanted to know if there was any news on the Hohenlohe-Oehringen family. I have also looked online and tried to find online magazines or newspapers about these 2 families, but can't seem to find anything on either. If someone would be kind to post links to magazines and newspapers where I could find regular information and newer pics on these 2 families, it would be greated appreciated. Thanks!

kingfernidad 04-29-2006 03:31 AM

King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia is granted Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci
 
Now that King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia took over his family's Monarchy of Prussia, he moved into his Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci Palace in Potsdam, Germany. The people are satisfied with the outcome and King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia abolished the House of Hohenzollern to eliminate current competition. King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia then banished Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia from all claims to the Prussian Monarchy.

https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...rnidad.1.0.jpg


Best Wishes, -King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia
www.royaltyblogspot.blogspot.com

Warren 05-02-2006 02:31 AM

Coup and counter coup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfernidad
Now that King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia took over his family's Monarchy of Prussia, he moved into his Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci Palace in Potsdam, Germany. The people are satisfied with the outcome and King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia abolished the House of Hohenzollern to eliminate current competition. King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia then banished Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia from all claims to the Prussian Monarchy.
Best Wishes, -King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia
www.royaltyblogspot.blogspot.com

You can't declare the "abolition" of a family or a dynasty. Aren't you a Hohenzollern descendant? So haven't you just "abolished" yourself? What if George Friedrich launches a counter coup from Burg Hohenzollern supported by Hanoverian and Hessian mercenaries?

Von Schlesian 05-03-2006 03:51 AM

For goodness sake, this kind of malicious and intentional misinformation has gone too far. Sorry Ken, but game over. It's quite alright to be making a quick joke and then come clean and admit that it was such, but for the less critical members of the Royal Forums, who absorb an awful lot of information, you are misleading them entirely.
Warren is totally correct when saying you can't 'abolish' a family or Imperial and Royal House, it's simply ludicrous and beyond the power of legitimate heads of Royal Houses.
While I openly favour the establishment of a Constitutional Monarchy in Germany and the return of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern and the other German Royal, Ducal and Princely Houses, it is something quite unlikely due to the political stability the Bundesrepublik enjoys. However, the high regard in which the Wittlesbach family is held by Bavarians, and others around the world is certainly something to consider when thinking of how Germany would react to a proposal of restoration.

But, 'the people' (of whom you speak when you say they are 'satisfied'), would recognise the legitimate head of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern as just that - legitimate. Not only would the public acknowledge HIRH Prince Georg Friedrich as such, but the wealth of academics, royal scholars and related Royal families. They would never be 'satisfied' with the bogus originator of an image superimposed within a frame, who declares they enjoy Canadian citizenship.

Please, become a productive member of this site and contribute the acutal information researched and documented, or cease posting the highly misleading and false information altogether.

To the Administrator, Moderators and fellow TRF members, I apologise for the confrontation, but feel this has just gone too far.

PreDoc 05-03-2006 02:30 PM

I conduct scholarly research on the Prussian monarchy and this is one of the funniest things I have found to date on the internet. Hilarious blog too!

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfernidad
Now that King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia took over his family's Monarchy of Prussia, he moved into his Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci Palace in Potsdam, Germany. The people are satisfied with the outcome


juliamontague 05-04-2006 05:28 PM

"King Fernidad" is completely fake.
He posts this on all kind of Forums that talk about Royalty.

Lindy 05-22-2006 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo
Isn't this his cousin Victoria-Luise? I always thought that Cornelie-Cecile was mentally handicapped.

What is the current status of Cornelie-Cecile's disabilities? Where does she live and what does she do?

Lindy 05-28-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo
Isn't this his cousin Victoria-Luise? I always thought that Cornelie-Cecile was mentally handicapped.

According to Netty:
Cornelie Cécile is, to quote Marlene Eilers Koenig 'Severely retarded'. Sam Dotson once described it like this (well he is a doctor): 'became neurologically handicapped as the result of a perinatal infection, encephalitis caused by cytorhegalovinus'.

RussianHistoryBuff 06-04-2006 07:52 PM

Is Prince Georgii Mikhailovich Romanov not the closet heir to the non-ruling Prussian throne? After all, his biological father is Louis Ferdinand Oskar Christian Princ of Prussia. Louis Ferdinand has been the Head of the House of Hohenzollern since 1994. If anyone can answer this question please feel free to send me the answer by way of e-mail.

Warren 06-05-2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RussianHistoryBuff
Is Prince Georgii Mikhailovich Romanov not the closet heir to the non-ruling Prussian throne? After all, his biological father is Louis Ferdinand Oskar Christian Princ of Prussia. Louis Ferdinand has been the Head of the House of Hohenzollern since 1994.

Sorry, but way off. The current Head of the Hohenzollerns is Prince Georg Friedrich, the son of Prince Louis Ferdinand who was killed in an accident during army manoeuvres in 1977, and grandson of Prince Louis Ferdinand, Prince of Prussia (1907-1994).

Grand Duke Georgi (aka Prince Georg of Prussia) is at the tail end of the male descendents of Kaiser Wilhelm II. His father, Prince Franz Wilhelm, is the grandson of the Kaiser's youngest son Prince Joachim, who shot himself in 1920.

Elspeth 07-17-2006 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindy
According to Netty:
Cornelie Cécile is, to quote Marlene Eilers Koenig 'Severely retarded'. Sam Dotson once described it like this (well he is a doctor): 'became neurologically handicapped as the result of a perinatal infection, encephalitis caused by cytorhegalovinus'.

I assume that'd be cytomagalovirus. Not a pleasant critter.

Dulce Elena 07-25-2006 12:22 AM

I think it is funny now more than ever because we are seeing that democracy and republicanism are as flawed as monarchism (when they were supposed to be the answers)! I am curious, the world being how it is, what the popular style of government will be in the future? Politics is like fashion - the style changes with the times and with attitudes.


You can view the Vanity Fair article I scanned at this link:

www.geocities.com/soysuza/gfp.html

It's very large! You can enjoy reading it, too ;)

Benjamin 09-23-2006 02:04 PM

Pictures from a concert for the Kira of Prussia Foundation (9 Sept 2006)

Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia
https://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6...6505wu3.th.jpghttps://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7...6499rj5.th.jpg

Prince and Princess Franz Friedrich of Prussia
https://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6...6466ot1.th.jpg

Prince Christian-Sigismund of Prussia (left) with Duchess Rixa of Oldenburg and her fiance
https://img49.imageshack.us/img49/557...6457ke0.th.jpg

Source: Seeger-Press

lord_rankin 09-25-2006 02:05 PM

Is Prince Franz Friedrich an uncle of Prince Georg Friedrich?

Warren 09-26-2006 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lord_rankin
Is Prince Franz Friedrich an uncle of Prince Georg Friedrich?

Here's the relationship:

Kaiser Wilhelm II - Wilhelm - Louis Ferdinand - Louis Ferdinand - GEORG FRIEDRICH (b 1976)
Kaiser Wilhelm II - Joachim - Karl Franz Joseph - FRANZ FRIEDRICH (b 1944)

Stefanie 12-20-2006 05:32 PM

To Russian
 
Corneli-Cecile was born mentally handicapped and I once read that she lives in a home for mental deseased people since years. The last photo of her was published I think on her mother´s second marriage with the Duke of Oldenburg.

zanychick3000 12-27-2006 03:10 PM

I dont know if this has been posted, but the grandmother of Prince George Friedrich, Furstin Irene Castell-Rudenhausen passed away on December 16. Here is a link to the Preussen website where the announcement was posted:

https://www.preussen.de/de/heute/aktu...denhausen.html

Dulce Elena 02-22-2007 12:17 PM

https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...tell1950-2.jpg

https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...tell1950-3.jpg

https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...astell1950.jpg

There is another more recent of Georg Friedrich's sister, Cornelia Cecilia...she was actually born with a type of in utero encephilitis which is commonly tested for now, but was not known during her birth year. This actually caused the retardation. It's ashame because now this is treatable and preventable!

sjetajiem 03-26-2007 06:39 AM

Paul Duke of Oldenburg, a full cousin of Prince Georg Friedrich (his mother princess Cecile and Prince Georg Friedrich's father were brother and sister) became Roman Catholic, married a spanish lady Pilar Mendez de Vigo, and just got his first daughter and fourth child last week.

Warren 03-26-2007 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dulce Elena
What Warren? You don't believe that guy from San Diego is the *real* head of the imperial Prussian house?! I just saw this guy's rant on another board and I'll tell you - he's a piece of work. What a trip! I guess he's harmless enough but he's definitely making a stupid @$$ out of himself ;) You can see King Fernidad in action...

The guy from San Diego (who's name is Ken) is very well known to us, in fact he's been banned from the Forums.
Harmless? On the surface, yes, but there was another side, as we discovered.

Warren 03-26-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sjetajiem
Paul Duke of Oldenburg, a full cousin of Prince Georg Friedrich... became Roman Catholic, married a Spanish lady Pilar Mendez de Vigo, and just got his first daughter and fourth child last week.

Duke Paul's Spanish wife is very well connected: her mother is Princess Monika of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg, and her brother married Princess Katharina of Hohenberg.

Jo of Palatine 03-28-2007 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren
Duke Paul's Spanish wife is very well connected: her mother is Princess Monika of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg, and her brother married Princess Katharina of Hohenberg.

Didn't the sister of Duke Paul marry a Habsburg, too? Eilika & Georg von Habsburg? The Hohenbergs being Habsburgs through the marriage of Franz Ferdinand of Habsburg with Sophie Countess Chotek who was elevated to the rank of Duchess of Hohenberg even though the marriage was considered morganatic.

Marengo 03-28-2007 05:28 AM

No, Archduchess Eilika is a 1st cousin of Duke Paul. Her father is Duke Johann of Oldenburg and her mother a countess zu Ortenberg.

Stefan 03-28-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo
No, Archduchess Eilika is a 1st cousin of Duke Paul. Her father is Duke Johann of Oldenburg and her mother a countess zu Ortenberg.

And her sister Duchess Tatiana was engaged to Prince Jean of France, Duke of Vendôme in 2000.

Marengo 03-29-2007 03:37 AM

I still remember the pictures in Point de Vue, sadly the late Countess of Paris vetoed the marriage (Tatiana wasn' t a catholic and did not want to convert).

Anyway, does anybody know if Georg-Friedrich is still dating Sophie of Ysenburg Birstein? One of her sisters married Fuerst Carl of Wied and another one married Archduke Martin (brother of Archduke Lorenz).

morhange 04-12-2007 12:32 AM

From nettyroyal.nl

Prince Wilhelm Karl of Prussia died on Monday. He was born on 30 January 1922 at the Villa Quandt in Potsdam as youngest child of Prince Oskar and Ina-Marie Countess von Bassewitz-Levetzov. He married in 1952 Armgard von Veltheim. They had one daughter and two sons. They survive him as well as two grandsons and a granddaughter. A funeral service will be held at the Berliner Dom on 19 April 2007 at 14.00. Afterwards he will be buried in Potsdam. He was the last surviving grandchild of Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany.

Beate 04-12-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dulce Elena
https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...tell1950-2.jpg

https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...tell1950-3.jpg

https://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2...astell1950.jpg

There is another more recent of Georg Friedrich's sister, Cornelia Cecilia...she was actually born with a type of in utero encephilitis which is commonly tested for now, but was not known during her birth year. This actually caused the retardation. It's ashame because now this is treatable and preventable!

That is so sad..it must have been a tough time for their mother Donata. First she loses her husband and then there are problems with her daughter. I never knew that Corneli-Cecile was born handicapped. Does she still live with her mother? And where would I find a more recent photo? Thanks!

Dulce Elena 04-12-2007 05:44 PM

That's a toughie because she isn't seen at many events. I think she lives in a special group home outside of her family home, but I can't be sure. She seems very independent at any rate - I don't know the extent of the disability. There was one picture of her with her brother at one event but I don't have it. If I find it, I will post it for you. As for a very recent photo, I don't think one exists in the public domain :(

Beate 04-12-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulce Elena
That's a toughie because she isn't seen at many events. I think she lives in a special group home outside of her family home, but I can't be sure. She seems very independent at any rate - I don't know the extent of the disability. There was one picture of her with her brother at one event but I don't have it. If I find it, I will post it for you. As for a very recent photo, I don't think one exists in the public domain :(

Thanks, that would be great! I tried to find some pics on the net but all of them were quite old. Judging from the pictures she doesn't look that handicapped but of course it's hard to tell. It's great that she seems independent. In which part of Germany does she live?

Dulce Elena 04-14-2007 09:15 AM

Sorry, I don't know. :sad:

Dulce Elena 05-01-2007 11:29 AM

Ein Besuch aufm Burg Hohenzollern
 
An interesting You Tube video about a visit to Burg Hohenzollern (Prussian/Hohenzollern castle in SW Germany)

YouTube - Besuch aufm Hohenzollern / Schafsberg

and another:

YouTube - Burg Hohenzollern

Dulce Elena 05-01-2007 11:56 AM

Another interesting article
 
FTS Media | Dokumentationen | Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern

this also has a new pic of GF...not *new* just never posted before ;)

Dulce Elena 05-05-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dulce Elena
FTS Media | Dokumentationen | Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern

this also has a new pic of GF...not *new* just never posted before ;)

If you click on the Picture that says "Die Preussischen Hohenzollern" there is a video stream. It says below to: "Klik auf das Bild startet einen Video-Stream". You can actually listen to GF speak and see a brief introduction to the documentary. All in German, untranslated.

Dulce Elena 05-05-2007 01:12 PM

A picture of GF, Kira Marina Bismarck (nee Liepsner) and her husband Andreas Bismarck at a memorial for Kira v. Preussen (Kira Marina's mother) who died not too long ago after sucumbing to her bout with cancer.

https://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/2886...0A760B0D811297


https://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/2886...0A760B0D811297

Alison20 05-05-2007 02:15 PM

Does anyone know if Kira Marina Liepsner's husband, Andreas Bismarck, is related to the Princely family of 'von Bismarck'?

Dulce Elena 05-05-2007 03:15 PM

Yes, he is. Andreas is descended from Otto von Bismarck, who was bestowed with titles and honours in the late 19th century:

-His Illustrious Highness, Count von Bismarck
-His Serene Highness, Prince von Bismarck
-His Highness, Duke von Lauenburg

Andreas is the son of Hans von Bismarck & Cornelie von Schwerin.

GlitteringTiaras 05-05-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulce Elena
If you click on the Picture that says "Die Preussischen Hohenzollern" there is a video stream. It says below to: "Klik auf das Bild startet einen Video-Stream". You can actually listen to GF speak and see a brief introduction to the documentary. All in German, untranslated.

You can translate the page via Google. Just type in Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern and click on Translate this page.

It's a shame that I cannot find the link to the whole documentary, Emperor, king, citizen - the Prussian Hohenzollern, it would have been a pleasure to see it. All I know is that it aired in Dec 2006 on ZDF/arte. If anyone knows where to find the link to the whole series, please let us know.:flowers:

Dulce Elena 05-05-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras
You can translate the page via Google. Just type in Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern and click on Translate this page.

It's a shame that I cannot find the link to the whole documentary, Emperor, king, citizen - the Prussian Hohenzollern, it would have been a pleasure to see it. All I know is that it aired in Dec 2006 on ZDF/arte. If anyone knows where to find the link to the whole series, please let us know.:flowers:

Well, I tried to find if they were selling a copy on DVD like some larger broadcasters do (Discovery, TLC, History Channel) and I haven't had any luck. If I find it, I will either let everyone know or upload it via RapidShare, etc...if I can learn how to insert subtitles I will translate it, too.

It's nice to hear the people talk not just see photos. GF's a pretty happy, accessible guy it seems...very upbeat. Refreshing!

GlitteringTiaras 05-05-2007 06:48 PM

Lately, my interest in the history of the family has increased (along with other German royals) and I've been trying to find more information about them lately.

I have many books that discuss several German houses, including The Small German Courts in the Eighteenth Century, which is mainly about the Duchy of Wurttemberg and the County of Montbeliard, but I have yet to find a solid book about the Hohenzollern's.

If you could recommend any I would be very grateful.:flowers:

Richygold 06-04-2007 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras
You can translate the page via Google. Just type in Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern and click on Translate this page.

It's a shame that I cannot find the link to the whole documentary, Emperor, king, citizen - the Prussian Hohenzollern, it would have been a pleasure to see it. All I know is that it aired in Dec 2006 on ZDF/arte. If anyone knows where to find the link to the whole series, please let us know.:flowers:

Hi!
you can buy the documentation "Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preussischen Hohenzollern" (article number 34879) on DVD (German language) via
SWR Media Services
Tel. +49 7221 929 500
EURO 29,--

And it is very likeley that arte sells a French language version of the documentation.

Best Regards,

Richygold

Dulce Elena 07-04-2007 12:38 AM

I particularly liked the video because it showed a lot about his parents, the castle, Louis Ferdinand Sr...etc. It was very informative - like that he only really goes to the Burg maybe one month out of the year (probably for the Prinzessin Kira Stiftung) and even then, owns a house in Hechingen and doesn't even stay in the castle! I guess he prefers his two room apartment in Berlin! LOL....:eek: What was even nicer is that he's a very accessible person and gladly speaks and meets with visitors to Burg Hohenzollern. The days of the aloof noble is going to pass with the older generation I think...

AlliC 07-15-2007 11:42 AM

Hello to all. I stumbled on this site looking for an answer to a puzzle. Is there a Prince by the name Rolf von Preussen of Reuss?

Sincerely,

AlliC

Warren 07-15-2007 11:58 PM

He can't be "of Prussia of Reuss" as that makes no sense. In any case, the Princes of Reuss are named Heinrich.

Harold 10-19-2007 06:41 PM

Have Georg Friedrich and his Uncle Michael with whom he disputed the inheritance reconciled?

JSP 10-20-2007 04:49 PM

Ladies in the pic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulce Elena (Post 604900)
FTS Media | Dokumentationen | Kaiser, König, Bürger - Die preußischen Hohenzollern

this also has a new pic of GF...not *new* just never posted before ;)

Are any of those two ladies related to the Hohenzollern RF ?

Stefan 10-21-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSP (Post 682482)
Are any of those two ladies related to the Hohenzollern RF ?

These 2 ladies are Princess Felicitas and Princess Christa the daughters of Prince Wilhelm (1906-1940) the oldest son of Crown Prince Wilhelm and Crown Princess Cecilie and older brother of Prince Louis Ferdinand. He renounced on his sucession rights in 18933 to marry the non equal Dorothea von Salviati.

Stefanie 11-05-2007 01:11 PM

Yesterday night on the weekly "Anne Will"- show in German ARD-programme there was some discussion about the new German law about obligation to pay maintenance. One of the participants was Phillip Kyril of Prussia, great-great grandson of Emperor Wilhelm II. He´s the son of Friedrich-Wilhelm from Prussia who´s two times divorced (first to Phillip´s mother Waltraud Freydag and second to Ehrengard von Rheden). Haven´t seen Phillip for years (probably last time when he was a child). He looks so similiar to his dad it´s amazing! Phillip is married since 1994 to some commoner named Christine Soltau and father of six! children and told that he suffered a lot from his parents´ divorce. He seems to be very religious (protestant) and isn´t at all tolerant seeing all the other people becoming divorced. He wants them to make some marriage-license before marrying and he counted that the political economic damage of divorces is probably much higher than all yearly traffic-accidents together. He to me appears kind of very conservative although he´s only 39. He looks so accurate with his tie and suit and haircut. Don´t know whether they repeat the show on "Phoenix" or so.

sjetajiem 11-25-2007 05:33 PM

The eldest son of the late princess Xenia of Prussia Patrick Lithander and his wife Maja, nee Flechtner have two sons Pius and Hugo.
Does someone know the birthdates of the two boys?
The younger one, Hugo was baptised this summer so apparently he was born in the beginning of this year.

Source: Hein Bruins

kelly9480 01-04-2008 10:13 PM

That's not the House of Hohenzollern. It's some quack who either still posts here or was banned. Look at all the misspelled words. The head of the Prussian Royal House is Georg Friedrich.

GlitteringTiaras 01-04-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly9480 (Post 712294)
That's not the House of Hohenzollern. It's some quack who either still posts here or was banned. Look at all the misspelled words. The head of the Prussian Royal House is Georg Friedrich.




Sorry HRM, but that website is a fake and is essentially maintained by a man who is not quite right in the head. Correct information regarding the Hohenzollern's, including the real website, can be found here.

Warren 01-05-2008 03:37 AM

Yes, it's our old friend King Fernidad of Prussia (aka Ken), though I note he appears to have dropped the "and Saxony" from his title. :biggrin:

Marengo 01-21-2008 08:48 PM

Bunte of 2 weeks ago (January 3rd 2008) had a 3-page article on Prince Michael of Prussia and his wife Britgitte. Brigitte is suffering from breast cancer and the magazine basically claims that they can not afford the right treatment as they don´t have the financial means (the treatment is not covered by the insurance apparently) due to the lawsuit against the prince´s nephew Prince Georg-Friedrich.

ramon_malta 02-17-2008 02:43 AM

The House of Hohenzollern went so far as to adopt the Prussian Coat-Of-Arms as the coat-of-arms of the then newly-formed German Empire in 1871 under Kaiser Wilhelm I. After all, the aim of the Prussian Chancellor Otto Prince von Bismarck was to unify the German states under Prussian leadership. Therefore it was natural for the Hohezollerns to adopt their Coat-Of-Arms for the entire German Empire.

Eloise 03-19-2008 04:23 PM

hello, one day i was searching for palaces and i found one so beautifull, the history of that palace was that the prince of prusia made build it to her girlfriend sophie-charlotte, if anyone knows something about her, or the story between them let me now please

cfknauer 04-16-2008 05:05 PM

Somebody can help me ? I need the POSTAL address of German Imperial House. Thank you.

Warren 04-17-2008 11:07 AM

Why don't you check the official website?

Stefan 04-20-2008 04:25 AM

Hereditary Prince karl Friedrich of Hohenzollern was recently interviewed for "Hallo Deutschland". The Video can be watched here
First you have to click: Zur ZDF Mediathek
and the coose Bandbreite

Zu Gast auf Schloss Sigmaringen

serenissima 04-24-2008 09:55 AM

Is the Head of German Imperial House regarded as higher than other royal people such as the Duke of Bavaria et al ? What is his rank in relation to that of Dr Otto ?

Odette 06-21-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliamontague (Post 430982)
"King Fernidad" is completely fake.
He posts this on all kind of Forums that talk about Royalty.

Not only that but San Souci Palace is a museum and almost empty of furnishings.

Odette 06-21-2008 01:53 PM

Marengo Can you please help me here? Who was the Georg who married and divorced GD Marie Romanov? He is the father of her son and current pretender to the Russian throne after her? (according to her supporters anyway) Thank you

Marengo 06-21-2008 02:06 PM

That was not a George but Prince Franz Wilhelm of Prussia. He married GD Maria in 1977 in Madrid; the couple divorced 10 years later.

Prince Franz Wilhelm was the son of Prince Karl Franz of Prussia and Princess Henriette of Schoenaich- Carolath (daughter of Hermine, second wife of Kaiser Wilhelm II) and the grand son of Prince Joachim of Prussia and princess Marie-Auguste of Anhalt. Prince Joachim on his turn was the 6th son of Kaiser Wilhelm II and Empress Auguste Viktoria.

Wikipedia has some information of the prince, who was known as Grand Duke Michael Pavlovich during his marriage. Look here.

zohara 07-31-2008 04:01 AM

Wow
 
That was a quick reply yes where do i get the more info Julia you very kind. Thank you for the info

zohara 08-09-2008 07:18 AM

Out rage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefanie (Post 550239)
Corneli-Cecile was born mentally handicapped and I once read that she lives in a home for mental deseased people since years. The last photo of her was published I think on her mother´s second marriage with the Duke of Oldenburg.

I am outrage that Corneli -Cecile lived in a mentally handicap home!!

Thats no way to treat someone. And what do you mean Mentalli handicap? Dipolar, Schizophrenia or depressian?

Warren 08-09-2008 08:28 AM

zohara, if you read the post that comes just two posts after the one you quoted you will find the nature of the Princess's medical condition, and the post after that one gives some more details.

maria-olivia 12-13-2008 09:04 AM

What is the surname of Prince Georg's handicaped Sister , Cécilia or Marie-Cécile?

Stefan 12-13-2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria-olivia (Post 866680)
What is the surname of Prince Georg's handicaped Sister , Cécilia or Marie-Cécile?

Cornelie-Cecile

Harold 12-14-2008 09:10 AM

In what way is she handicapped? (I hope it is not rude to ask!)

maria-olivia 12-14-2008 04:36 PM

Marengo,
Why did the Grand Duchess Marie ex-wife of Prince Franz Wilhem of Prussia
made her son Grand Duke and why is he not a Prince of Prussia anymore.
Did she love her husband , or did she want only a child ??
Do you have any news of the Prince Franz Wilhem of Prussia ?

Princess Robijn 12-14-2008 04:39 PM

He is also a Prince of Prussia, however, he is a Grand Duke because he is his mothers heir.

Josette

Warren 12-15-2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harold (Post 867041)
In what way is she handicapped? (I hope it is not rude to ask!)

Harold, some details can be found on page 2 of this thread. Refer posts 27 and 29.

Stefan 03-26-2009 03:13 AM

Princes Luise of prussiad died at Bückeburg Castle on 23.March 2009. sghe was the last member of the Family who was born during the reign of Emperor Wilhelm II.

article and photo:Preussen.de - Trauer um Prinzessin Luise von Pressen (1917-2009)

Marengo 03-26-2009 05:45 AM

Did the princess actually live at Bückeburg Castle of the Schaumburg-Lippe's?

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She was the last in a line of 7 generations of Louise's:

Queen Luise of Prussia, née Duchess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
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Princess Luise of The Netherlands, née princess of Prussia
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Queen Louise of Sweden & Denmark, née princess of The Netherlands
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Queen Lovisa of Denmark, née princess of Sweden
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Princess Louise of Schaumburg-Lippe, née princess of Denmark
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Princess (Marie-)Louise of Prussia, née princess of Schaumburg-Lippe
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Princess Luise of Prussia (1917-2009)

Hanna Regina 03-26-2009 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 913292)
Did the princess actually live at Bückeburg Castle of the Schaumburg-Lippe's?

Yes, it says on preussen.de that she moved in to an apartment in the west wing of the castle in the late 1950s.

Royal Musings has the same information, but in english. There are also some pictures of the Princess.

Royal Musings: Princess Luise of Prussia has died

Warren 03-26-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 913292)
Did the princess actually live at Bückeburg Castle of the Schaumburg-Lippe's?

My Almanach de Gotha has her living at Schloss, Westfügel in Bückeburg.
If that is a separate building she may have moved to the main schloss in later years.

Marengo 03-26-2009 06:42 AM

Westflügel means 'west wing' (of the castle). Here an aerial view, (including the west wing ;)).

Stefan 08-04-2009 02:25 AM

Princess Felicitas of Prussia died on 01.08.2009 at the age of 75.

https://www.preussen....D5F35A99DB4162C

Marsel 08-05-2009 02:10 PM

My condolences to her family.


Some information for those who are interested in geneology.

Princess Felicitas was fifth in an unbroken line of first-born children starting with Victoria, Princess Royal (Queen Victoria's eldest child). The line continues with her own eldest daughters, Friederike von der Osten, and her eldest granddaughter (Friederike’s eldest daughter), Felicitas von Reiche.

Princess Felicitas married Dinnies Karl von der Osten in 1958. They had two daughters, Friederike Thyra von der Osten (born in 1959) and Cecilie Felicitas von der Osten (born in 1967), as well as two sons - Dinnies-Wilhelm von der Osten (1962 - 1989) and Hubertus Christoph (born in 1964) von der Osten.
In 1972, shortly after her divorce, Princess Felicitas married for the second time to Jorg Hartwig von Nostitz-Wallwitz. They had one daughter - Diana Renata von Nostitz-Wallwitz (1974).

Princess Felicitas has descendants through her daughters - only: her eldest son, Dinnies-Wilhelm died in 1989 (aged 27) without heirs. Her second son, Hubertus Christoph (aged 45) is not married and has no legitimate heirs.

Of Princess Felicitas 3 daughters, 2 eldest are married and have issues. Friederike Thyra von der Osten married Bernhard Ernst Dieter von Reiche in 1984. They have 3 children: Felicitas Catharini von Reiche (born in 1986), Victoria Cecilie von Reiche (born in 1989) and Donata Friederike Diana (born in 1992).
Cecilie Felicitas von der Osten married Ole Hugo Marxen in 1997. They have one son, Julius Dinnies Ole Marxen (born in 1998).

MAfan 08-05-2009 05:16 PM

My condolences to the Family.

Lumutqueen 08-05-2009 05:29 PM

My condolences to the family.

lucien 08-06-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 975193)
Princess Felicitas of Prussia died on 01.08.2009 at the age of 75.

https://www.preussen....D5F35A99DB4162C

Preussen.de - Heute

HMTLove23 09-24-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjetajiem (Post 697467)
The eldest son of the late princess Xenia of Prussia Patrick Lithander and his wife Maja, nee Flechtner have two sons Pius and Hugo.
Does someone know the birthdates of the two boys?
The younger one, Hugo was baptised this summer so apparently he was born in the beginning of this year.

Source: Hein Bruins

Hugo Lithander was born Aug 2nd 2006Pius lithander was born Jan 1st 2005Now they have a third son Karl Lithander, who was born Mar 26 2008. but was just announced

Stefan 10-12-2009 05:04 AM

death of Princess Hubertus
 
Again a death in the Royal Famnily. HRH princess hubertus, née Princess Magdalene Reuß died on 10.10.2009 at Kleinheubach Castle. She will be buried at the side of her husband at the Michaels Bastei of Hohenzollern Castle.
Preussen.de - Trauer um IKH Magdalene Prinzessin Hubertus von Preussen

MAfan 10-13-2009 10:06 AM

That's a sad news; another generation that ends...

I've written a blog entry about her:
https://www.theroyalforums.com/12200-...ssia-has-died/

Harold 11-10-2009 07:29 AM

Christmas Customs of the Hohenzollern
 
With Christmas approaching, I was wondering about Christmas traditions of the Hohenzollern. Does the whole family gather at the castle or do the various members celebrate with just their immediate families?

NotAPretender 12-20-2009 01:40 PM

Christie's concluded an auction this week of items largely from the collection of Princess Luise of Prussia, who died on 23 March 2009 at Schloss Bückeburg.

The link to the conclusion of the auction is here:

EUROPEAN NOBLE AND PRIVATE COLLECTIONS | Fine Art Auction | Search Results | Christie's

The total yielded, including the 29.75% buyer's premium, was 2,318,162 Euro; the items themselves, then, would have sold for an aggregate of 1,786,638 Euro, which as of 16 December 2009 would be approximately $1.43MM USD, or 890,000 pounds.

My husband purchased something from the sale but I'm not allowed to know what it is; evidently St. Nicholas is going to leave it for me on Christmas.

Mermaid1962 09-16-2010 09:11 PM

This question shows how little I know about things royal and princely in Germany, but I'm going to ask it anyway.;) Furst Friedrich Wilhelm was the Head of the princely line of Hohenzollern. Prinz Georg Frederich of Prussia is the Head of the House of Hohenzollern according to this website: Preussen.de - Prinz Georg Friedrich von Preussen

Could someone please explain this to me. How closely would these two men have been related and what is the difference in their respective positions? I know that Prinz Georg Frederich is the descendant of Kaiser Wilhelm II.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1137352)
Fürst Friedrich Wilhelm the Head of the princely line of Hohenzollern died last night at the age of 86. He had already since a few yearts health-problems.

suedkurier.de | Fürst Friedrich Wilhelm ist tot


MAfan 09-17-2010 03:58 AM

The two Houses descend from Friedrich I, Burgrave of Nuremberg and Count of Zollern; at his death in 1205 his eldest son Friedrich II inherited both the titles, but in 1518 he renounced to the Burgraviate of Nuremberg in favour of his younger brother Konrad. The Royal House of Prussia descends from Konrad, while the Princely House of Hohenzollern(-Sigmaringen) descends from Friedrich.

I'm not sure Georg Friedrich can be called Head of the House of Hohenzollern; he surely is the Head of the Royal House of Prussia, which is completely separated from the Princely House of Hohenzollern; I guess that the Head of the branch descending from the eldest son of Friedrich I (= Karl Friedrich, Prince of Hohenzollern) should be the Head of the entire House of Hohenzollern.

Btw, Georg Friedrich and Karl Friedrich are Heads of two different Houses.

MAfan 09-24-2010 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphine (Post 1139953)
This means, that only the persons, that were born during the german empire to the house of prussia were imperial highnesses ( an their wifes of course). The german empire ended in 1918.
Georg Friedrich was born far after 1918 :). So he is only a royal highness, because he is formerly just the heir of the throne of prussia. To be an imperial highness he must be voted by the counties/ federal states/ free cities of germany.

As far as I know, only the German Crown Prince and the German Crown Princess were Imperial and Royal Highnesses, but all the other members of the Prussian Royal House were/are "mere" Royal Highnesses, beyond they were born before or after the end of the Empire.

Saschana 09-24-2010 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphine (Post 1139953)
This means, that only the persons, that were born during the german empire to the house of prussia were imperial highnesses ( an their wifes of course).

Actually I think it was just the Crown Prince and his wife who were Imperial Highnesses while all the other children of the Emperor (who of course was also an Imperial Highness as well as his wife) were just Royal Highnesses.
So Crown Prince Wilhelm and his wife Cecilie were the last German Imperial Highnesses.

Stefan 09-24-2010 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saschana (Post 1139966)
Actually I think it was just the Crown Prince and his wife who were Imperial Highnesses while all the other children of the Emperor (who of course was also an Imperial Highness as well as his wife) were just Royal Highnesses.
So Crown Prince Wilhelm and his wife Cecilie were the last German Imperial Highnesses.

Yes it where the Crown Prine and his spuse and since 1918 the Head of the House and his spouse. So Georg Friedrich is His Imperial and Royal Highness as was the late Prince Louis Ferdinand.


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