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Lumutqueen 12-10-2014 01:17 PM

It's a boy and a girl: Prince Jacques & Princess Gabriella, December 10, 2014
 
@courtjeweller: Tweet from @RTL_presse says it's a boy and a girl in Monaco!

@courtjeweller: Hearing reports that the cannons are booming in Monaco! Next up: church bells will ring and boat horns will sound https://t.co/00hetcVwSo

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:20 PM

name rumuors changed: Matthias Galante ‏@Matthiasgalante 51 sec52 secondi fa Les jumeaux du Prince Albert et de la Princesse Charlene sont nés à 17h04 et 17h06 : Gabriella et Jacques #monaco

Elektra 12-10-2014 01:22 PM

Princess Charlène gives birth to Twins : Prince Jacques & Princess Gabriela
 
:monacostandard:
:monacoflag::baby::baby::monacoflag:

HSH Hereditary Prince Jacques Honoré Rainier of Monaco, Marquis des Baux and HSH Princess Gabriella Therese Marie of Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès


were born on December 10, 2014 at the Hôpital Princesse-Grace in Monaco.

https://www.nicematin.com/monaco/les-...s.2020255.html





RoyalNight 12-10-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty91charmed (Post 1728491)
name rumuors changed: Matthias Galante ‏@Matthiasgalante 51 sec52 secondi fa Les jumeaux du Prince Albert et de la Princesse Charlene sont nés à 17h04 et 17h06 : Gabriella et Jacques #monaco

Gabriella and Jacques are in my opinion nicer that Charles and Louise. And not taken by other royals, I think

soapstar 12-10-2014 01:23 PM

It looks like they might be readying the cannons.

https://mobile.twitter.com/axtqt/sta...736512/photo/1

Lee-Z 12-10-2014 01:24 PM

Congratulations to the couple, the extended families and to the people of Monaco!

Eveline 12-10-2014 01:25 PM

Monaco Matin has just tweeted that the twins are born, same names as someone shared earlier (Jacques and Gabrielle)

soapstar 12-10-2014 01:26 PM

Congratulations to Albert and Charlene! I really like the names.

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 01:26 PM

That picture can't deny it, it seems the anouncement is soon.

About baby names, I believe in the birth speculation, but names are so so... Only Albert and Charlene know that, unlike a birth that doctors, nurses, all know about a birth. Names are personal and private for the parents only.

Marika86 12-10-2014 01:26 PM

Monaco_Matin ‏@Monaco_Matin Gabriella et Jacques, les jumeaux princiers de Monaco, sont nés https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4g40IXIAAAv7tw.jpg

Azur TV ‏@AzurTV_ Le Prince Héritier de la Principauté de #Monaco s'appelle Jacques. Il est né à 17h06. La famille se porte bien selon un proche du palais

Kit 12-10-2014 01:26 PM

Yeah congrats! So happy for them. I am really moved to tears right now.

dbarn67 12-10-2014 01:27 PM

Are the names official?

soapstar 12-10-2014 01:28 PM

Yep those are the official names.

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:28 PM

Julien Fautrat ‏@Dioulen 2 min2 minuti fa #MonacoTwins Gabriella est née à 17h5, Jacques à 17h6 #Nice06 #Monaco @RTLFrance

Princess Xenia 12-10-2014 01:28 PM

congratulations to the couple. it couldn't have been better, a boy and a girl.
This is moment which I wish Grace and Ranier could see. they would be so proud.

Dman 12-10-2014 01:29 PM

Are there any Live Coverage?

principessa 12-10-2014 01:29 PM

Congratulations to all of them! I wish them all the best!

Do you think that Jaques is older as Gabriela?

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 01:29 PM

So Jacques and Gabriela! What a lovely surprise! I love the names and there is no other royal alive with that names.

queenofcelts 12-10-2014 01:30 PM

as I have understood the little ones full names are Jacques Renier and Gabriella Terese Marie?

GracieGiraffe 12-10-2014 01:31 PM

Jack Kelly would be very proud too!

Mbruno 12-10-2014 01:31 PM

Congratulations to Their Serene Highnesses on the birth of their twin children.

rmay286 12-10-2014 01:31 PM

Congratulations to them! Those are nice French names.

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 01:32 PM

It seems the girl is older by 1 minute. Oh it's a pity about the constitution though, it should be the girl the hereditary princess.

TLLK 12-10-2014 01:33 PM

Congratulations to TSH!

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:33 PM

Jacque Honorè Rainier and Gabriella Therese Marie, The parliament has just congratulated them

Ish 12-10-2014 01:34 PM

Is there an official confirmation yet?

melina premiere 12-10-2014 01:34 PM

It is official the canons will begin this evening


Gabriella Therese Marie is born 17 H 04 and Jacques, Honoré , Rainier is born at 17h06


Lovely names.It is prince Jacques who will be the hereditary prince.

lazuli 12-10-2014 01:34 PM

Are you sure? Are the babies really born? Are these really their names? Oh so much speculation... Such uncertainty... I love P. Gabriela's name, not so sure about Jacque's though...

OH JOY... OH HAPPY DAY... BABIIIIES!!!!

Rudolph 12-10-2014 01:35 PM

Wonderful news. Congratulations to the family

Marika86 12-10-2014 01:35 PM

Place Royale ‏@RTLPlaceRoyale OFFICIEL : des bébés princiers à #Monaco Gabriella et Jacques sont nés !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4g7SjmIYAAPFEp.jpg

Marchesina 12-10-2014 01:36 PM

Jacques I was Prince in the XVIII century so it's kind of a family name, Honoré as well. Love Gabriella.
Congrats to mum and dad!

Mbruno 12-10-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmay286 (Post 1728523)
Congratulations to them! Those are nice French names.

Gabriella is not a French name, is it ?

Breffney 12-10-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty91charmed (Post 1728526)
Jacque Honorè Rainier and Gabriella Therese Marie, The parliament has just congratulated them

Beautiful names. ! :flowers:

Le Palais has announced the names on Twitter.

RoyalNight 12-10-2014 01:37 PM

https://www.facebook.com/palaismonaco?fref=ts facebook page :)

Mbruno 12-10-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melina premiere (Post 1728529)
It is official the canons will begin this evening


Gabriella Therese Marie is born 17 H 04 and Jacques, Honoré , Rainier is born at 17h06


Lovely names.It is prince Jacques who will be the hereditary prince.

So Gabriella is older, but male preference primogeniture applies !

RoyalNight 12-10-2014 01:39 PM

So happy! Great names!:flowers:

melina premiere 12-10-2014 01:40 PM

photos of the canons


https://twitter.com/search?q=monaco&src=typd

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 01:41 PM

Now that they have one of each, I doubt they'll have any more children. I'm sure they are so thrilled to have a boy and a girl at the same very time! It must be a precious moment.

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:42 PM

official https://www.facebook.com/palaismonaco?fref=ts

GömdNatt 12-10-2014 01:43 PM

aww, congrats to the happy family!!

(and the possibility, maybe, for the law to be changed?)

Smush 12-10-2014 01:43 PM

Great news. Even the german STERN announced it!

https://https://www.stern.de/


Congratulations!

Lumutqueen 12-10-2014 01:44 PM

@palaismonaco: Le Couple Princier ont l’immense bonheur d’annoncer la naissance de Leurs enfants : Gabriella, Thérèse, Marie et Jacques, Honoré, Rainier.

Marchesina 12-10-2014 01:44 PM

Congratulation to the happy family! And welcome to the world Gabriella and Jacques!

Kellydofc 12-10-2014 01:44 PM

Congratulations to the whole family!

Valerie Rose 12-10-2014 01:45 PM

Very, very happy news. Good health and many years to the proud parents and new babies!

Elektra 12-10-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 1728535)
Gabriella is not a French name, is it ?

You are right. The French version would be Gabrièle or Gabrielle.

Mirabel 12-10-2014 01:45 PM

I like the names, but why Gabriella instead of Gabrielle?
Isn't Gabriella the Italian version?

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 01:46 PM

Does anyone knows here what will be the process from now on? I mean, official presentation of the babies, official pictures, some info about baptism, etc.

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:46 PM

It seems aunt Stephanie has just arrived at the hospital

MoonShadow123 12-10-2014 01:46 PM

Marvellous!
 
Brilliant news, congratulations to the happy couple, their families and the people of Monaco. :smile::rofl:;):angel::clap::monacoflag::baby::cheers::champagne::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks:

polyesco 12-10-2014 01:47 PM

Im glad all is well.
A boy and a girl, shame that they havent changed the law since the girl was born first.

Since Frederik was in Monaco for the IOC meetings I wonder if he gave some advice to Albert on twins, lol : D

Beate28 12-10-2014 01:47 PM

Congratulations! Love the names.. My daughter's name is Gabrielle..:)

alenka 12-10-2014 01:49 PM

Congratulations to the happy parents and whole family!

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 01:49 PM

Le Direct - MC Channel - Chaînes vidéos de Monaco

talking about it

It's just a shame the girl was born first but cannot be the heiress! O I wish I could have seen the cannons firing

lazuli 12-10-2014 01:50 PM

The news is spreading... Oh joyous day!!!


Les jumeaux princiers de Monaco sont nés | Monaco | Nice-Matin

Naissance à Monaco - Officiel - Gabriella et Jacques, les jumeaux de Charlène et Albert

Charlene de Mónaco, a punto de dar a luz a sus gemelos

Lenora 12-10-2014 01:52 PM

That's great news - to have at once babies of different gender!

tdarlene 12-10-2014 01:53 PM

Congratulations to the couple. I'm pleasantly surprised by the little princes names, what a lovely surprise. I wish all the best to them.

zarat 12-10-2014 01:54 PM

I have a book by Isabele Bricard about reigning dynasty in Europe with detailed family tree which I'm updating constantly. So its' with a great pleasure that I have added princes Jacques and Gabrielle.
These children are "beautiful Christmas gift" for Monaco people!

principessa 12-10-2014 01:57 PM

I guess Princess Grace and Prince Rainier would have been very proud of their new grandchildren.

Noble Consort Ming 12-10-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirabel (Post 1728556)
I like the names, but why Gabriella instead of Gabrielle?
Isn't Gabriella the Italian version?

Perhaps Gabriella is also the form of the name in the Monegasque language.

kathia_sophia 12-10-2014 02:01 PM

Gabriela is not only Italian, it's the latim version of the name.

Duc_et_Pair 12-10-2014 02:01 PM

Congratulations to the couple princier!

:flowers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kathia_sophia (Post 1728575)
Gabriela is not only Italian, it's the latim version of the name.

Gabriella, not Gabriela, see example:

Sua Altezza Reale Donna Maria Gabriella Giuseppa Aldegonda Adelaide Margherita Ludovica Felicita Gennara di Savoia, Principessa d'Italia

:flowers:

Tilia C. 12-10-2014 02:07 PM

What happy news, congratulations to the proud parents!


Born on Nobel Day, I'll never forget their date of birth. But it is sad that in the 21st century a girl is pushed aside by a youner brother.

dbarn67 12-10-2014 02:07 PM

Congratulations to the couple! Great names.


Hello.com is confirming the engagement of Pierre Casiraghi and Beatrice Borromeo....wedding set for April 20th.

melina premiere 12-10-2014 02:11 PM

There is a lovely video on Monaco Channel.

Kit 12-10-2014 02:12 PM

If only Grace and Rainier were alive to see this day. They would be besides themselves with joy and pride.

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 02:13 PM

Melina do you know when there are replays on the channel? I'd like to see the cannons being fired

Smush 12-10-2014 02:13 PM

On Monaco matin you can see a video and hear the boat sirenes.
https://www.monacomatin.mc/monaco/les...s.2020255.html


And the Princely HP is back on

https://www.palais.mc/fr/actualites/s...eres-3294.html

Marty91charmed 12-10-2014 02:17 PM

Thanks Smush! Do you have the link?

Sirènes et canons pour la naissance des jumeaux princiers à Monaco - Vidéo Dailymotion

video of the sirenes

Albert coming to the hospital
Le prince Albert II arrive au Centre Hospitalier Princesse Grace - Vidéo Dailymotion

Bells and palace in red lights
Le palais scintille en rouge pour la naissance des jumeaux princiers à Monaco - Vidéo Dailymotion

melina premiere 12-10-2014 02:19 PM

No on Monaco channel there is a video announcing the births of prince Jacques and princess Gabrella, it is a video taken at the national fest Inside the palace. in Monaco Channel.We will see the cannons to morrow in Monaco channel.


Princess Marie Astrid has a girl called Princess Gabriella of Habsbourg. In Monaco there are also french name who are also in monegash language which looks like italian.

sancakli70 12-10-2014 02:24 PM

Congratolations Tor the couple :)

Carminha Stalker 12-10-2014 02:25 PM

:flowers::flowers::flowers::flowers::flowers:Congratulations on the birth of Gabriella and Jacques. May they be very happy and healthy.

Duc_et_Pair 12-10-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit (Post 1728588)
If only Grace and Rainier were alive to see this day. They would be besides themselves with joy and pride.

They would have been 86 resp 88 years old... Hard to imagine.

:flowers:

Ana Von Cleves 12-10-2014 02:27 PM

I didn't think of that! How true that old jack would be crowing.

Congrats to them.


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Kellydofc 12-10-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty91charmed (Post 1728571)
It's just a shame the girl was born first but cannot be the heiress! O I wish I could have seen the cannons firing

Yes, it is. On the other hand, the second in line always seems to like their spot a lot more. I can see that since they don't have all the pressure and stress the heir does. It maybe that Gabriella will love her place in the succession and not envy her brother a jolt.

titiromi 12-10-2014 02:33 PM

Congratulations again. Exciting time for Monaco. I like the name Gabriella. Not sure about Jacques though but I m very happy for the birth anyway :-)

melina premiere 12-10-2014 02:33 PM

In Monaco matin there is a little video with the horns of boats


Les jumeaux princiers de Monaco sont nés | Monaco | Monaco-Matin

Archduchess Zelia 12-10-2014 02:36 PM

Congratulations to Charlène with her, no doubt, lovely little twins :flowers: I knew they arriving one of these days. Didn't, however, expect those names at all (and I must say, I am somewhat disappointed that both Grace and Caroline were left out of Gabriella's name altogether). I am severely disappointed that Albert chooses to let his oldest child be displaced in favour of his younger child. That is plain sexism and it is absolutely detesting. Shame on you, Albert.

Duc_et_Pair 12-10-2014 02:37 PM

The names correctly spelled, with accents:

Son Altesse Sérénissime le prince Jacques Honoré Rainier de Monaco, Marquis de Baux.

Son Altesse Sérénissime la princesse Gabriella Thérèse Marie de Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès.

Baux (Baux-en-Provence) is a fantastic place close to St Rémy and Maussane-les-Alpilles. I was there this summer, for three weeks, only 3 km away in Maussane. Carladès is an ancient viscounty in the Bourbonnais (Auvergne), where I live. What a coincidence.... According the Treaty of Péronne (1641) the eldest son receives the title Marquis de Baux.

Congratulations to the famille princier.


:flowers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia (Post 1728615)
Congratulations to Charlène with her, no doubt, lovely little twins :flowers: I knew they arriving one of these days. Didn't, however, expect those names at all (and I must say, I am somewhat disappointed that both Grace and Caroline were left out of Gabriella's name altogether). I am severely disappointed that Albert chooses to let his oldest child be displaced in favour of his younger child. That is plain sexism and it is absolutely detesting. Shame on you, Albert.

Albert chooses nothing. It is all automatically regulated by La Constitution de la Principauté de Monaco (Article 10). And... why are you "disappointed" that Grace and Caroline are no part of her names but no word about Stéphanie or Antoinette, to name other possibilities? I think the names are beautiful. The names Jacques, Honoré, Rainier, Gabriel(la), Thérèse and Marie all are already in the monegasque genealogy, therefore Albert and Charlène are respecting their patrimonium which is also their parents' legacy, of course.


:flowers:

Archduchess Zelia 12-10-2014 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty91charmed (Post 1728571)
It's just a shame the girl was born first but cannot be the heiress! O I wish I could have seen the cannons firing

It's not a question of whether she can be the heiress. It's a question of whether Albert wants to change the primogeniture (or propose a change of the primogeniture, if you will) so that his oldest child can succeed him. And he doesn't want to do that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1728621)
Albert chooses nothing. It is all automatically regulated by La Constitution de la Principauté de Monaco (Article 10).

:flowers:

He could have proposed a change of the primogeniture and he chose not to.

Jacknch 12-10-2014 02:45 PM

Wonderful news! What a special day in Monaco! I like the names very much and it is marvellous they have chosen names I do not think many people were expecting!

Queen Penelope 12-10-2014 02:46 PM

Lovely names! Congrats to the parents!!

melina premiere 12-10-2014 02:48 PM

There are a prince and a princess , the prince will be the hereditary prince and the litttle princess will seconf in line , it is the constitution , I don't see any problem.


I am very happy .

QUEENECE29 12-10-2014 02:49 PM

Congratulations Princess Charlene & Prince Albert
Wellcome Prince Jacque Honorè Rainier and Princess Gabriella Therese Marie

It's a boy and a girl | Selda Göktaş

Duc_et_Pair 12-10-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melina premiere (Post 1728634)
There are a prince and a princess , the prince will be the hereditary prince and the litttle princess will seconf in line , it is the constitution , I don't see any problem.


I am very happy .

I agree. Nothing new. We knew on beforehand that the succession was according l'ordre de primogéniture avec priorité masculine. We can also say, when it are two girls or two boys: "Why the eldest and not the youngest?" It is as it is.

:flowers:

Rebafan81 12-10-2014 02:52 PM

Congratulations Prince Albert and Princess Charlene!!!! I LOVE the names!!! Simply Beautiful!!!! Can't wait for official pictures of these little angels!!
I am also happy that there is one of each, now there is no, he was born first, the tradition in Monaco continues, males inherit, I'm glad there wasn't (2) boys or (2) girls, to me, this simplifies everything.

KittyAtlanta 12-10-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1728639)
I agree. Nothing new. We knew on beforehand that the succession was according l'ordre de primogéniture avec priorité masculine. We can also say, when it are two girls or two boys: "Why the eldest and not the youngest?" It is as it is.

:flowers:

Thank you for your voice of reason.


This happy event is no place for politics.

TLLK 12-10-2014 02:57 PM

Congratulations and they've chosen lovely names IMO. Hope that Charlene will get some rest before returning to the palace.

Duc_et_Pair 12-10-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KittyAtlanta (Post 1728646)
Thank you for your voice of reason.


This happy event is no place for politics.

And... for Albert personally... he is a younger child as well, as Princess Caroline is older. Why complaining that Albert's younger son is the Heir and never complaining that Albert himself has preceded his elder sister?

:whistling: :flowers:

In one day there have been 3 heirs to the throne.

00h00 - 17h04
S.A.R. la princesse Caroline de Monaco, Princesse de Hannovre

17h04 - 17h06
S.A.S. la princesse Gabrielle de Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès

17h06 - ..h..
S.A.S. le prince Jacques de Monaco, Marquis de Baux

:flowers:

Line of succession:

1. S.A.S. le prince Jacques de Monaco, Marquis de Baux (2004)
2. S.A.S. la princesse Gabrielle de Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès (2004)
3. S.A.R. la princesse Caroline de Monaco, Princesse de Hannovre (1957)
4. Monsieur Andrea Casiraghi (1984)
5. Monsieur Alexandre ('Sacha') Casiraghi (2013)
6. Monsieur Pierre Casiraghi (1987)
7. Mademoiselle Charlotte Casiraghi (1986)

:flowers:

melina premiere 12-10-2014 03:05 PM

Yes, a voice of reason, the princely couple gave the names of former princes and princesses of Monaco. Rainier is the third name of prince Jacques and Marie is the name of the the Vierges Marie. A catholic name .

Caird 12-10-2014 03:07 PM

Wonderful news. Congratulations to Charlene and Albert! Looking forward to seeing photos. :monacoflag2:

PetraHel 12-10-2014 03:08 PM

Wonderful news, I am so happy for the family! I can't wait to see the first pics!

Jacknch 12-10-2014 03:10 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that Princess Gabriella will, in many years to come, be just as important and beloved to Monaco as second in line to the throne as her brother will be as first. Gosh, they are barely hours old and already I am imagining their lives years ahead! Like everyone else, I am desperate to see the new arrivals and also to see Princess Charlene as a mother!

Al_bina 12-10-2014 03:13 PM

https://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/2...6031#t47826031

Princess Charlene gave birth to twins|Blogs•Spletnik.ru


Congratulations to the couple! Gabriella is a lovey name for a girl.

Molly2101 12-10-2014 03:18 PM

Gabriella is a beautiful name for the girl. I also like Jacques as the British equivalent Jackis very popular.

Congratulations to the couple and Monaco! Can't wait to see them

How long does Monaco usually take to christen their children?

Stefan 12-10-2014 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1728674)
In one day there have been 3 heirs to the throne.

00h00 - 17h04
S.A.R. la princesse Caroline de Monaco, Princesse de Hannovre

17h04 - 17h06
S.A.S. la princesse Gabrielle de Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès

17h06 - ..h..
S.A.S. le prince Jacques de Monaco, le prince héritier, Marquis de Baux

:flowers:

Line of succession:

1. S.A.S. le prince Jacques de Monaco, le prince héritier, Marquis de Baux (2004)
2. S.A.S. la princesse Gabrielle de Monaco, Comtesse de Carladès (2004)
3. S.A.R. la princesse Caroline de Monaco, Princesse de Hannovre (1957)
4. Monsieur Andrea Casiraghi (1984)
5. Monsieur Alexandre ('Sacha') Casiraghi (2013)
6. Monsieur Pierre Casiraghi (1987)
7. Mademoiselle Charlotte Casiraghi (1986)

:flowers:

(.
8 HRH Pricness Alexancdra of Hannover
9 HSH Princess Stephanie
10 Louis Ducruet
11 Pauline Ducruet

Marisaa 12-10-2014 03:22 PM

exactly year ago it was Charlotte who gave birth to Raphael... Tatiana is pregnant again. The family is getting bigger and bigger.

Lee-Z 12-10-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duc_et_pair (Post 1728674)
...
Line of succession:

1. S.a.s. Le prince jacques de monaco, marquis de baux (2004)
2. S.a.s. La princesse gabrielle de monaco, comtesse de carladès (2004)
...

...(2014)....
;)

Grace chic 12-10-2014 03:28 PM

Wonderful news! Two healthy babies a beautiful way to end 2014.

C4A 12-10-2014 03:31 PM

The couple have been truly blessed. I am so thrilled it's a boy and a girl. Love the names too, but little disappointed that only Rainier of the grandparents were named.

I am sure the festivities have started in Monaco. And for us lots of exciting events to look forward to...


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