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VictoriaB 01-14-2014 03:36 PM

General News and Information on Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall
 
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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 1633249)
They ring for DoE because he is the spouse of the sovereign and the parent of the heir. Should Charles out live his mother and become king, then it would be traditionally appropriate to ring them for Camilla. At the moment she is NOT the spouse of the monarch, only the spouse of the heir, and will never be a parent of the heir. That would be the difference IMO. It has nothing to do with how many anniversaries they have celebrated.



Catherine is not the parent of the heir either - she is the parent of the heir's heir's heir.

Personally i think it would be simpler to ring for the monarch, the monarch's spouse, any living Queen or Prince Consort (the position not the title) and the monarch's children only but if they're going down the track of spouses then if Catherine's in so should Camilla be. Who they ring for should be based on rank not parenting status.

scooter 01-14-2014 03:54 PM

^ When did Camilla get named the heir's heir's heir?

Royal_Royal 01-14-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VictoriaB (Post 1633260)
Who they ring for should be based on rank not parenting status.

I agree. The Duchess of Cornwall is the second most important lady in the land. I suppose she is the fourth most important person in the country (?).

Lumutqueen 01-14-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal_Royal (Post 1633271)
I agree. The Duchess of Cornwall is the second most important lady in the land. I suppose she is the fourth most important person in the country (?).

I think you're confusing important, with royal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictoriaB (Post 1633260)
Catherine is not the parent of the heir either - she is the parent of the heir's heir's heir.

Personally i think it would be simpler to ring for the monarch, the monarch's spouse, any living Queen or Prince Consort (the position not the title) and the monarch's children only but if they're going down the track of spouses then if Catherine's in so should Camilla be. Who they ring for should be based on rank not parenting status.

Not but she's the mother of the future heir which by WA's standards allows her to have bells rung. Like Ish said, in crude terms, she has provided genetic material to a future monarch. That's the only reason I can see for including Catherine and not Camilla.
I agree that it should be Monarch, Spouse and the heir, and that's it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter (Post 1633270)
^ When did Camilla get named the heir's heir's heir?

She hasn't, VictoriaB never mentioned anything like that.

Royal_Royal 01-14-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1633277)
I think you're confusing important, with royal

I'm talking about the order of precedence.

Lumutqueen 01-14-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal_Royal (Post 1633280)
I'm talking about the order of precedence.

That doesn't mean they're important, that's just an order for seating arrangements and when to walk in. Sorry. :rofl:

Royal_Royal 01-14-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1633285)
That doesn't mean they're important, that's just an order for seating arrangements and when to walk in. Sorry. :rofl:

That's okay. We have different points of view. In my opinion, the order of precedence can be seen as an order of importance.

May we agree to disagree?:flowers:

MARG 01-14-2014 06:17 PM

But we are told that while they rang for Catherine, they did not ring the bells for Diana and she was the mother of the heir's heir. So they rang for Catherine, who is the mother of the heir's, heir's, heir but not the heir's heir. Confused? Don't blame you! :ermm:

Perhaps they will clarify. :biggrin:

scooter 01-14-2014 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1633277)
I think you're confusing important, with royal.



Not but she's the mother of the future heir which by WA's standards allows her to have bells rung. Like Ish said, in crude terms, she has provided genetic material to a future monarch. That's the only reason I can see for including Catherine and not Camilla.
I agree that it should be Monarch, Spouse and the heir, and that's it.





She hasn't, VictoriaB never mentioned anything like that.

She edited the post. I didnt quote it at the time just used the up^. then she edited it.

Ish 01-14-2014 06:54 PM

Scooter, I think VictoriaB's original mention of Camilla was meant to be a start into a new paragraph that got mostly deleted - not an attempt to call her the heir's heir's heir.

I just looked at the site, and Camilla's birthday has been added.

As for Diana's birthday, has the Abbey said that they didn't previously ring for her birthday (between either her marriage or the birth of William and her divorce or separation)? Can anyone remember if 18 years ago they rang the bells for Diana's birthday? Or even longer? The list that has been provided is for the 2014 ringing days - Diana's birthday is off the table at this point.

scooter 01-14-2014 07:03 PM

^ Yes I know. I was being funny. She said, heir's heir's heir Camilla. I knew she didnt mean that. Sense of humor boys and girls....

Nico 01-14-2014 07:06 PM

On a side note the Union flag is raised on Uk government buildings for the birthdays of all the senior Royals (including of course the Duchess of Cornwall. Bet some will see charles's hand too ha ! :lol: ).

https://www.gov.uk/designated-days-f...on-flag-flying

Rudolph 02-22-2014 07:38 AM

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Charles’s visit to the Somerset Levels triggered the hasty arrival of both the Prime Minister and the head of the Environment Agency, Lord Smith — both of whom took his wake-up call and tried to make capital out of the royal initiative.
People instinctively knew who cared most for the flooded-out populace. But Camilla? Lost in the detail of the YouGov poll was a single damning statistic.
It showed that a mere 17 per cent of the population want her to be Queen. A striking 27 per cent want her to have no title at all when Charles ascends the Throne.
Can the woman who helped make Cheryl Cole a star persuade Britain to accept Queen Camilla? | Mail Online

Queen Camilla 02-23-2014 08:57 AM

Another trash article by the trash writer Christopher Wilson from the Daily Mail.

Man needs to follow Richard Kay & give it up.

FYI, Middlewick House was sold after her divorce from APB & Raymill House was purchased. (Wilson can never get his information correct.)

An Ard Ri 04-14-2014 09:22 AM

State hopes Charles will attend 1916 ceremonies

State hopes Charles will attend 1916 ceremonies

Lumutqueen 04-14-2014 09:53 AM

That webpage is unavailable? Also this is the DOCo thread the link says Charles?

Muhler 11-08-2014 12:40 PM

A funny and almost bizarre video of the PoW: Prince Charles imitates disastrous interview in spoof video | Royalista

(Couldn't find a the humour of the PoW thread).

muriel 11-17-2014 01:08 PM

'Camilla squeezed my buttock!' Kelsey Grammer reveals how the Duchess of Cornwall once grabbed his backside at the White House



Kelsey Grammer reveals how the Duchess of Cornwall once grabbed his backside | Daily Mail Online


In my view, this is quite a preposterous article. The only time that Camilla has been to the White House was in autumn 2005, if I am not mistaken. How likely is it that Camilla, on her first trip overseas as a member of the BRF, would deliberately squeeze somebodies buttock, at a formal engagement?

miss whirley 11-17-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by muriel (Post 1720866)
'Camilla squeezed my buttock!' Kelsey Grammer reveals how the Duchess of Cornwall once grabbed his backside at the White House



Kelsey Grammer reveals how the Duchess of Cornwall once grabbed his backside | Daily Mail Online


In my view, this is quite a preposterous article. The only time that Camilla has been to the White House was in autumn 2005, if I am not mistaken. How likely is it that Camilla, on her first trip overseas as a member of the BRF, would deliberately squeeze somebodies buttock, at a formal engagement?

Tom Parker-Bowles once wrote that he was a huge fan of the show "Frasier".
Maybe his mother is a bigger fan and couldn't resist.

ladongas 11-17-2014 01:20 PM

Maybe this is why!
 
From Laura Bush's memoirs:

“When Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, came to visit us,” she wrote, “they requested glasses of ice before we began a long receiving line. The staff dutifully produced them, and the Prince removed a flask from his pocket and added to each a small splash of what I presume was straight gin, so that they might be fortified before the hour of shaking hands.”


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