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Yennie 09-16-2004 05:23 AM

Divorce for Joachim and Alexandra: September 2004
 
The royal court will hold a press conference at 11.30 and ?? probably announce the divorce of prince Joachim and princess Alexandra


Hovet har kallat till presskonferens för att meddela nyheten för det danska folket.
Joachim, 35, och Alexandra, 40, har varit gifta i snart nio år och har två söner.
Statsminister Anders Fogh Rasmussen skall under förmiddagen meddela ledarna i de politiska partierna om nyheten.



DKgirls 09-16-2004 05:25 AM

Press meeting!!!!
 
Hi!!
We just wanted to tell you that in 5 minutes from now, there will be a press meeting at Amalienborg - it hasn't been told what it's about, but the press believes that it will be a divorce between Joachim and Alexandra!!!

We'l post as soon as we know :)

Yennie 09-16-2004 05:31 AM

Its now official: They will divorce

Princess Alexandra and prince Joachim will get a divorce, the danish court announced a few minutes ago

DKgirls 09-16-2004 05:33 AM

They are getting divorced!!!
Margrethe and Henrik are sorry, but they are sure that it'll be figured out with the kids and so. Joachim lives at Schakenborg and Alexandra at Amalienborg with the 2 boys!
She will be Her Highness Alexandra, not princess.....

They've said that they've agreed about it and will share the kids. They both want to continue with their duties, with organisations and so, and hopes that they'll be supported in their decisions!
They can't say what the main reasons are, but they still hope that the people and press will accept it!

galuhcandrakirana 09-16-2004 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yennie
Princess Alexandra and prince Joachim will get a divorce, the danish court announced a few minutes ago

are you sure? oh well that is a very sad news...

Yennie 09-16-2004 05:55 AM

I tought they said that she will still be called "prinsesse Alexandra"?

Also, princess Alexandras parents will continue living at thier house at Shackenborg


Yes, positive.
They will divorce but Alexandra will still be a princess and continue with her royal duties.
She and the children will stay at Amalienborg and Joachim will stay at Shackenborg.

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 06:11 AM

I Am Shocked!

liv 09-16-2004 06:37 AM

I´m really shocked!I thought this were just gossip cheap rumours...

galuhcandrakirana 09-16-2004 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yennie
Yes, positive.
They will divorce but Alexandra will still be a princess and continue with her royal duties.
She and the children will stay at Amalienborg and Joachim will stay at Shackenborg.

well, the couple has chosen their way; I hope they'll be fine in facing this difficult situation.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Julial
Could someone kindly translate this into English? Please ???

Yes.. I'll really appreciate if somebody could find the one in English version then post it here.

Cissan 09-16-2004 06:44 AM

I saw the headlines on the Swedish gossip magazine "Svensk Damtidning" which said that the divorce was caused by Joachim's alcohol problems. But this must just be vicious rumour, don't you think?

Gabriella 09-16-2004 06:47 AM

What horribly sad news! Even thought there has been much speculation lately, I never really though that it was true. They really seemed like a couple who had it together. Their poor boys. :(

Alexandria 09-16-2004 06:56 AM

I saw this news at of all places, Imagine Scandinavia which has lots of photos of the couple's relationship and wedding and their kids. I was actually quite shocked to read this.

It seems to me to be a major bit of news ... or is that just me? It seemed that divorce was so rare in most other royal families other than the British and Monaco royal families.

But I guess marital relations must've been at such a crisis point that Margrethe would allow her son and daughter-in-law to divorce. Not to stir up trouble, but I wonder if the couple have wanted to divorce for some time but the Queen asked them to wait until after Frederik and Mary had been married for a few months and settled into their new life for a bit.

I guess sometimes there is truth to be found in those tabloid stories ... unfortunately.

DKgirls 09-16-2004 07:02 AM

Nobody can tell what the reasons were! It could be drinking problems or it could be thousands of other things!

mousbah 09-16-2004 07:09 AM

https://www.hola.com/casasreales/2004...uin-alejandra/

Mette2 09-16-2004 07:20 AM

Here's a translation of the statement. I'm sorry if someone's already made links or posted a translation and I hope it makes sense.

The Royal Family announces:
Their Royal Highnesses Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra, AMALIENBORG, September 16th 2004.

Her Majersty the Queen and his Royal Highness the Prince have instructed the Lord Chamberlain to announce that their Royal Highnesses Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra have decided to separate with the intention to seek divorce.
It is with deep regret that the Queen and the Prince have accepted this decision. At the same time the Queen and the Prince will give their full support to Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra in the difficult time that lie ahead. The Queen and the Prince wish to take part in finding a worthy solution for their son and daughter-in-law and that the children Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix will be ensured safe conditions.

There's an agreement between Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra about the decision and the conditions regarding the separation.

Prince Joachim will be living at Schackenborg. For now Princess Alexandra will be staying in the couple's apartment at Amalienborg with Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix. During the time they will be separated Her Royal Highness Princess Alexandra will keep her current title and after the divorce she will be addressed Her Highness Alexandra.

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra state:
"After many and hard considerations we have with mutual understanding decided to separate with the intention to seek divorce. There's an agreement between us about the conditions for the separation and together we will maintain custody of our children.

We each wish as far as possible to maintain our assignments including to take on official duties and continue the work with the organizations we are connected to. We have always experienced a great kindness and friendliness everywhere and we hope people will understand this difficult decision we've made".

Ole Ullerup, Lord Chamberlain.

Eliza 09-16-2004 07:24 AM

This is such terribly sad news. I always love them together. I never thought the rumours had any truth in them. I really feel sorry for all of them. It must be such a tough decision on them all.

didem 09-16-2004 07:36 AM

Princess Alexandra and Prince Joachim to Divorce
 
very saddening news

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...xandradenmark/


The Royal Court has scheduled a press conference for 11.30 this morning, and is expected to announce the separation of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra The Royal Court has scheduled a press conference at The Yellow Palace at Amalienborg at 11.30. DR's Radioavisen has reported that the court plans to announce the separation of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra.

The Copenhagen Post is following this story as it develops.

The Royal Court has scheduled a press conference for 11.30 this morning, and is expected to announce the separation of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra The Royal Court has scheduled a press conference at The Yellow Palace at Amalienborg at 11.30. DR's Radioavisen has reported that the court plans to announce the separation of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra.

The Copenhagen Post is following this story as it develops.

another news

https://www.jp.dk/

wymanda 09-16-2004 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yennie
Also, princess Alexandras parents will continue living at thier house at Shackenborg

Why do they get a house in Denmark? Their daughter married a Prince not them! I see this as a real imposition on the Danish people!

While Princess Mary's father took a short term lecturing job in Copenhagen just after the wedding he did not expect to live permanently in Denmark at the expense of either the country or the Royal family.

billabong 09-16-2004 07:49 AM

That sad to hear:( ... But maybe they are happier separate...

Catharina 09-16-2004 07:51 AM

Sad news indeed...
 
It is now official: :(

The Danish royal house confirmed on Thursday that Prince Joachim and his Hong Kong-born wife Princess Alexandra are to divorce after nine years of marriage.

Danish public radio announced the news earlier this week following rumours that the pair had been living separate lives. While the palace initially declined to confirm the reports, the news was made official at a press conference in the Yellow Palace at Amalienborg on Thursday.

The couple, who married in November 1995, have two children – five-year-old Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix, who's two.

According to a statement read by royal family chamberlain Ove Ullerup, Queen Margrethe and her husband Prince Henrik "deeply regretted" the couple's decision.

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Too bad I can't really understand fully the whole statement on the official pages of the danish royal house... What a surprise!! I mean they looked happy... https://www.lestribunesroyales.com/fo...s/confused.gif

Ariel 09-16-2004 08:08 AM

I've read that according to a danish journalist, who writes often about the royal house, the cause of the divorce is his alcoholism.

Lena 09-16-2004 08:11 AM

OMG I can´t really believe this! I´ve thought the tabloids, which have published that, just wanted a story. IMO they didn´t look unhappy together and there children didn´t seem as if they would have suffered from a marriage-drama!

galuhcandrakirana 09-16-2004 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mette2
Here's a translation of the statement. I'm sorry if someone's already made links or posted a translation and I hope it makes sense.

The Royal Family announces:.....Ole Ullerup, Lord Chamberlain.

Thanks for the translation........still hard for me to believe it :(

norwegianne 09-16-2004 08:18 AM

There have certainly been mutterings in the press, but to me it came as a shock when my friend got a phone call as we were walking home from school.

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra seems to always have had diverging interests, but they have also seemed to work well together.

I hope everything will work out okay for Felix and Nikolai.

According to bt.dk this will be the first divorce in the Danish royal family in 165 years.

norwegianne 09-16-2004 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wymanda
Why do they get a house in Denmark? Their daughter married a Prince not them! I see this as a real imposition on the Danish people!

While Princess Mary's father took a short term lecturing job in Copenhagen just after the wedding he did not expect to live permanently in Denmark at the expense of either the country or the Royal family.

I think they're living in a house on Joachim's property of Schackenborg. Which is his private property, and no imposition on the Danish people. I'm quite sure that Alexandra's parents manage to support themselves, and are not a burden on the Danish people, nor the royal family.

Yennie 09-16-2004 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wymanda
Why do they get a house in Denmark? Their daughter married a Prince not them! I see this as a real imposition on the Danish people!
While Princess Mary's father took a short term lecturing job in Copenhagen just after the wedding he did not expect to live permanently in Denmark at the expense of either the country or the Royal family.

They have lived there for some time now. Its not because of the divorce or anything. I think they moved to Denmark because Richard Manley was ill and wanted to be closer to his daughter.
And i dont see a problem with them living on Shackenborg, its a private estate isn´t it?

haha, you beat me by seconds norweiganne :)

kil 09-16-2004 08:41 AM

Sad news :( :( :(
I can't believe it .... too sad :(

DDD 09-16-2004 08:47 AM

VEry VEry sad news, especially for the two little boys, The familiy was just so perfect......

wyldseraph 09-16-2004 08:49 AM

https://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E1702,00.html
Danish prince to divorce

16sep04

Prince Joachim, Queen Margrethe's second son, will seek a divorce from his Hong Kong-born wife, Princess Alexandra, Danish public radio said today.

<SPAN class=bodytext>The palace declined to comment on the report, saying a news conference was scheduled later today.


Joachim is the younger brother to the heir to Denmark's throne, Crown Prince Frederik, who in May married Tasmanian-born Crown Princess Mary.

Joachim and Alexandra's divorce would be the first in modern times in Europe's oldest ruling monarchy, which traces its line back to the Viking king Gorm the Old, who died in 958.

For several months, Danish media have carried reports and rumours that the couple had been leading separate lives.

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Lena 09-16-2004 09:03 AM

I wonder how this will go on. Will Alexandra really stay at Amalienborg after the divorce. And what is about big festivities (e.g. the baptism of Frederik´s first born). Will they appear together? Will she appear or will she "just" go on with her charities. Yes, maybe they manage it to become really good friends (like prince Andrew and Fergie...but in the opposite to Alexandra, Fergie´s problem was rather the lack of acceptance at the Royal court), but how many couples do? I hope they will find a solution for their children. But if I would be princess Alexandra I wouldn´t want to live in a Royal building and would seek for a little independece, even though it would be a shame for us (the Royal watchers), who love it to watch her as "princess".

kittencrews 09-16-2004 09:23 AM

OMGosh, I just read that on HelloMagazine.com!!! This is a total shock!!

Martine 09-16-2004 09:35 AM

wow what a shock :( :( :( i'm really sad by this news, i really had no idea that they had problems...

But i hope they can put their problems aside and make sure that their kids don't suffer from the divorce

HMQueenElizabethII 09-16-2004 09:42 AM

Yes it is really a big shock!I'm not really interested in Danish Royals but i feel sad for the couple and especially for their children.they shouldn't have that,it shouldn't happen to them.They are small and lovely,they can enjoy happy childhood. I'm really sad

lucys 09-16-2004 09:42 AM

How sad. Do you think there will be more pressure on Mary now to get pregnant?

Posters from Denmark, how are people in Denmark reacting? I understand Princess Alexandra is very well liked.

norwegianne 09-16-2004 09:49 AM

My Danish friend, who I was with when I heard the news, didn't believe it. He thought his friend, from whom he got the news via phone, was joking. He was still in denial about the whole thing, but was going home to check a credible news-source as quick as possible.

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 09:57 AM

I don't know what planet I have been living on because I hadn't read anything about the rumors!

karla64 09-16-2004 10:00 AM

I was surprised that they were going divorce.. i think they were wonderful marriage. I can't understand why it happened.. i can't believe it...



Karla

irishchic5 09-16-2004 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandria
Not to stir up trouble, but I wonder if the couple have wanted to divorce for some time but the Queen asked them to wait until after Frederik and Mary had been married for a few months and settled into their new life for a bit.

I thought the same thing when I heard the news. It's just a little too coincidental that they're separating right after Frederick's marriage. It's very sad, especially for their sons. I hope they can manage to stay friends, like Prince Andrew and Fergie, if only for the sake of their children.

Dennism 09-16-2004 10:16 AM

I can´t believe this. It is unbelievable in a way. They looked so happy though.

H.M. Margrethe 09-16-2004 10:18 AM

I think that it is so sad that they are going to have a divorce.
Sad for ther sons but most sad for them self.
I hope and pray that they still can be frindes for them self and for ther children.
I am just happy to know that Alexandra is still loved by the Royal family and that she are abel to say her in Denmark with her parents.
As my teatcher said : "They are only human like us." :( :( :( :confused: :confused: :confused:

Jackswife 09-16-2004 10:19 AM

How very, very sad. I just hope it's a "civil" divorce, and no horrible fighting and vindictiveness between the parents. The boys are so adorable and hopefully, they will be the top priority for all involved. A very sad thing.

Dennism 09-16-2004 10:23 AM

Yes, let´s hope that the parents do not make it harder on the boys.

sara1981 09-16-2004 10:34 AM

Joachim and Alexandra of Denmark to Divorce
 
i read my msn e-mail this morning but i really shock for both got separate and getting divorces like Prince Charles and Princess Diana before in 1992 and divorces in 1996. And also Duke and Duchess of York who also separate same years with Prince and Princess of Wales before and Duke and Duchess of York got divorces in same years with Prince and Princess of Wales.

Joachim and Alexandra been married for 9 years but both would plans wanted getting separate and divorces if Alexandra would loses title like Princess Diana before who lose title but Princess Diana known as Diana,Princess of Wales but Princess Alexandra will known as Alexandra,Princess of Denmark wait and see from HM Queen of Denmark what and say.

Princess Alexandra was former mutual fund manager who met Joachim in 1994 both got married in Nov.1995 the couple have two sons Prince Nikolai at 5 year old and Prince Felix at 2 year old.

Sara Boyce

sara1981 09-16-2004 10:44 AM

im making annoucement of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra of Denmark if you would read it!

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...xandradenmark/

Sara Boyce

Isabel 09-16-2004 10:45 AM

I can't believe this either. They seemed to be doing so well. It's just proves that you never really know what is going on behind closed doors. Things may look good on the surface, but that certainly may not be the case.

It's none of my business, but I certainly do wonder what happened?

azile 09-16-2004 10:47 AM

It seems, however, that Joachim needs to really grow up; while tabloids can't be trusted to report truth, the one consitent report is that he's keeping busy with fast cars and exciting adventures. Alexandra has managed to find a good balance between personal "fun" and public responsibility. When was the last time he showed he was more than a spoiled playboy prince?

Eliza

isabella_ 09-16-2004 10:48 AM

I have read that in the web of the spanish magazine "HOLA" (www.hola.com). All I can say is that it's a very shocking new, they seemed happy...

sara1981 09-16-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabel
Are you serious? I can't believe it.

yes!

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra have separate for one years they have divorces but Princess Alexandra will still on her duty to do if HM Queen Marthages think she would loses titles or she will stay title wait and see!

when Princess Diana acceptance loses title as HRH when she got divorces from Prince Charles but Diana would known as Diana,Princess of Wales and also Duchess of York will known as Sarah,Duchess of York because both have same divorce years in 1996.

Sara Boyce

royal_sophietje 09-16-2004 11:01 AM

owww what a shocking news!!! I thought this was one of the happiest couples.....

Unfortunately, tabloids ARE true sometimes......

I wish them the best...

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKgirls
Nobody can tell what the reasons were! It could be drinking problems or it could be thousands of other things!

I think we need to be very careful about what we post. We shouldn't speculate what the problems are.

Mandy 09-16-2004 11:08 AM

This is really sad news. I hope the two boys will be sheltered from the press throughout this period.

H.M. Margrethe 09-16-2004 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sara1981
yes!

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra have separate for one years they have divorces but Princess Alexandra will still on her duty to do if HM Queen Marthages think she would loses titles or she will stay title wait and see!

when Princess Diana acceptance loses title as HRH when she got divorces from Prince Charles but Diana would known as Diana,Princess of Wales and also Duchess of York will known as Sarah,Duchess of York because both have same divorce years in 1996.

Sara Boyce

Sara my queens name ain´t Marthages but Margrethe and princess Alexandra are not goint to loose her princess titel. The only thing she won´t be callede anymor is HRH but HH.

Isabel 09-16-2004 11:13 AM

I have no idea what happened. Whatever it may be, it seems that everyone is being very calm about the entire situation. I would like to know what happened, and can only guess that as with most relationships it is a combination of things. The good thing is that at this point, Alex and Joachim seem to be handling this as cordially as possible. Considering the way that they always seem when in public together and even when they were at the wedding the other day, I certainly couldn't tell that any divorce annoucement was coming.

I am glad that Alex will stay in Denmark and that they have already seemed to have decided how they will share custody of the children. It's also nice that Alex will have stiped and be an HH instead of an HRH. It seems that the decision was mutual and well thought about on all sides. If they can keep things as civil as they have, then all will continue to go well. But, it is still surprising. I just never would have thought that Joachim and Alex would get a divorce or that they were even having any problems so serious that it would come to this. I guess you just neve know, do you?

Christie 09-16-2004 11:33 AM

very very sad...for such a perfect couple....
what's the reason of their divorce???

Isabel 09-16-2004 11:38 AM

Well, if they were a perfect couple, then they would not need to get a divorce. Divorce is usually a last option, so clearly they have been having problems for a while. The perfection that you speak of was clearly superficial, the only question is for how long have they been pretending and putting on good faces for the public?

Julia 09-16-2004 12:51 PM

This is a terrible shock! Can it be true?

Julia 09-16-2004 12:53 PM

Article in full....

What will happen to the boys? Will they stay with Joachim in Denmark???

16 SEPTEMBER 2004

https://www.hellomagazine.com/graphics/sendtoafriend.gifThe Danish royal house confirmed on Thursday that Prince Joachim and his Hong Kong-born wife Princess Alexandra are to divorce after nine years of marriage.

Prince Joachim is the younger brother of Crown Prince Frederik, who wed his Australian girlfriend Mary Donaldson in May this year.

Danish public radio announced the news earlier this week following rumours that the pair had been living separate lives. While the palace initially declined to confirm the reports, the news was made official at a press conference in the Yellow Palace at Amalienborg on Thursday.

The couple, who married in November 1995, have two children – five-year-old Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix, who's two.

According to a statement read by royal family chamberlain Ove Ullerup, Queen Margrethe and her husband Prince Henrik "deeply regretted" the couple's decision.

Forty-year-old Alexandra, a former mutual fund manager, met her husband in 1994 in Hong Kong, where the second-in-line to the throne was employed by a Danish shipping company. Following their nuptials the following year, the new princess quickly won the hearts of the Danes with her stylish dress sense and fluent grasp of the Danish language.

Since then the princess, who gave up her British citizenship in favour of that of her new homeland, has earned a reputation as a hard-working royal. She spends much of her time fulfilling royal duties, serving as the patron of nearly two dozen charitable organisations. She is also the president of Unicef Denmark.

Her 35-year-old husband's enthusiasm for soccer, rock concerts and racing vintage cars has, on the other hand, led him to being dubbed a "party prince" in some quarters.

Denmark's monarchy is the oldest in Europe – it was founded in 958 by the Viking king Gorm the Old – and Joachim and Alexandra's divorce will be the first such split in modern times.

The Watcher 09-16-2004 12:58 PM

Uhmm... Here is more news: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=3152

Julia 09-16-2004 12:58 PM

Another article



Danish Prince Joachim, his wife intend to divorcewww.chinaview.cn 2004-09-16 23:56:31


STOCKHOLM, Sept. 16 (Xinhuanet) -- The Danish Royal Court announced at a press conference in Copenhagen on Thursday that Prince Joachim and his Hong Kong-born wife, Princess Alexandra, have decided to separate, according to reports from Denmark. The 35-year-old Prince Joachim and 40-year-old Princess Alexandra announced through the court that they are separating with the intention to divorce after a marriage of nearly nine years.

It would be the first divorce in the Danish royal family in 165 years and comes just four months after Prince Frederik, Joachim's elder brother and the heir to the throne, married an Australian commoner in a glittering Copenhagen Cathedral ceremony.

"After many difficult considerations, we have jointly decided to separate with the intention of seeking a divorce," Joachim and Alexandra said in a palace statement.

"We are in agreement over the terms of the separation, and we intend to share in the upbringing of our children."

Alexandra will live together with their two sons, 5-year-old Prince Nikolai and two-year-old Prince Felix. She will retain the title "Her Highness" following separation proceedings.

In a statement, Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen expressed his government's "great regret" at the news.

"It is a difficult and deeply personal decision that the prince and princess have had to make together. It is a big decision that we must all respect and understand," he said.

Danish media have of late speculated that the popular and photogenic couple were headed for a divorce after growing apart, amid reports of the prince's increasing fondness for parties and fast cars.

The couple met at a private dinner in 1994 in Hong Kong, where Prince Joachim was working for the Danish shipping company Maersk. Alexandra is the daughter of Shanghai-born managing director Richard Nigel Manley and Austrian-born Christa Manley.

Though she is a Hong Kong native, Alexandra is not expected to leave Denmark. Under Danish law, the two princes cannot leave the Scandinavian country due to succession rules. The newly married Crown Prince Frederik has no children of his own yet.

Julia 09-16-2004 01:00 PM

Thursday September 16, 2004 11:31 AM





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By JAN M. OLSEN

Associated Press Writer

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) - Prince Joachim, Queen Margrethe's second son, will seek a divorce from his Hong Kong-born wife, Princess Alexandra, a spokesman for Denmark's royal family said Thursday.

Queen Margrethe and her husband Prince Henrik ``deeply regretted'' the couple's decision, but added they would give their full support to their son and daughter-in-law, according to a statement read by the royal family lord chamberlain, Ove Ullerup.

Ullerup said Joachim and Alexandra would continue their official duties during the divorce. If the divorce is completed, then it's the queen's decision whether to let Alexandra keep her royal title.

``The princess has no plans to leave the country,'' Ullerup said.

The announcement marks the first time since 1846 that a member of Denmark's royal family, Europe's oldest ruling monarchy, has gotten a divorce. The monarchy was founded by the Viking Gorm the Old, who died in 958.

Steffen Heiberg, a historian specializing in royal history, said the last divorce in the Danish royal house was in 1846 when King Frederik VII divorced Princess Caroline Charlotte Mariane of Mecklemburg-Strelitz, Germany.

He said the divorce is a ``private matter'' and will handled like any other divorce in the Scandinavian country of 5.4 million.

``Both of them have a duty to take care of their children and will continue to share parenting responsibilities,'' Niels Eilschou Holm, the palace's legal expert, told reporters at a press conference.

For several months, Danish media have carried reports and rumors that the couple had been leading separate lives.

Joachim, 35, and Alexandra Manley, 40, got married on Nov. 18, 1995, at Frederiksborg Castle in Hilleroed, Denmark. The couple have two sons, Prince Nikolai, 5, and Prince Felix, 2.

After the wedding, the enormously popular princess captured Danes' hearts and admiration by giving a speech in fluent Danish.

Alexandra spends considerable time in the public eye, serving as the patron of 21 groups, including the Danish Association for the Blind, a marine life museum, a girls' choir and a shelter for homeless and abused women with children. She is also the president of UNICEF Denmark.

While Alexandra carried out official duties, Joachim was dubbed ``the party prince'' because he spent more time attending soccer games, racing vintage cars and rock concerts.

The couple met in January 1994 in Hong Kong, where the prince was working for a Danish shipping company.

After marrying into Europe's oldest ruling monarchy, Alexandra gave up her professional life as a mutual fund manager and dropped her British citizenship for a Danish passport.

She is known as an elegant dresser and speaks German and French. She studied economics in Hong Kong, London and Vienna. Joachim is the younger brother to the heir to Denmark's throne, Crown Prince Frederik, who in May married Australian-born Crown Princess Mary.

bigheadshirmp 09-16-2004 01:03 PM

It is made offical by the Danish ...u can go this website for english official annocement of the Danish court
https://kongehuset.dk/english/current_activities/

bigheadshirmp 09-16-2004 01:04 PM

Their Royal Highnesses Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra

AMALIENBORG PALACE, September 16, 2004.

Her Majesty the Queen and His Royal Highness the Prince Consort have instructed the Lord Chamberlain to announce that Their Royal Highnesses Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra have decided to apply for a separation order and will subsequently seek a divorce.

It is with the deepest regret that the Queen and the Prince Consort have accepted this decision. At the same time Her Majesty and the Prince Consort wish to extend their full support to Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra during the difficult times ahead of them. Her Majesty and the Prince Consort wish to do their utmost to contribute to ensuring a dignified solution for their son and daughter in law and a harmonious upbringing for the children, Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix.

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra are in agreement on the terms of the separation order. Prince Joachim will continue to reside at Schackenborg Castle. Princess Alexandra will for the time being reside at Amalienborg Palace together with their sons Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix. During the separation period Her Royal Highness Princess Alexandra retains her present title and will be addressed as Her Highness Princess Alexandra after the divorce.

Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra state in this connection:

"After long and difficult considerations we have mutually decided to apply for a separation order and will subsequently seek a divorce. We are in agreement on the conditions and will undertake joint custody of our children.

We wish as far as possible to maintain our official functions and continue to work with the many organisations with which we are related.

Throughout the years we have experienced much kindness and friendliness and we hope that the difficult decision we have made will be met with understanding".

Ove Ullerup
Lord Chamberlain


Julia 09-16-2004 01:06 PM

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Thanks for posting the official version, bigheadshirmp. So sad to see them divorce as they appeared to have been so happy...

I guess we never really do know what goes on behind closed doors...

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Photo from the press conference...
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COPENHAGEN, DENMARK: Press photographers focus on Danish Lord Chamberlain Ove Ullerup (R) during a presser to announce the divorce of Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra 16 September 2004, at the Royal Palace of Amailenborg in Copenhagen. The royal couple married in 1995 and have two sons, Nikolai and Felix, aged five and two. AFP PHOTO/ Keld Navntoft/SCANPIX (Photo credit should read KELD NAVNTOFT/AFP/Getty Images)

ceci 09-16-2004 01:48 PM

It is really sad. They seemed to be a perfect couple and I thought they would last for ever

Devin 09-16-2004 01:55 PM

This is terrible news, very unexpected I wouldn't have dreamt of this. They looked happy. Oh well I wish them both the best in the future.

mktv2000 09-16-2004 02:07 PM

They did look quite uncomfortable at the recent wedding they attended...still, so sad.

Humera 09-16-2004 02:48 PM

I dont pay much attention to the Danish royal family but the news about the divorce is so sad. I cant imagine what Joachim and Alexandra must be going through. It must be so hard to explain something like this to a five and two year old.

bramair 09-16-2004 03:50 PM

Wow, I'm shocked but not surprised. It worried me to see Alex going off doing her duties by herself. I wish they would have stayed together. Maybe Alex will now be the Danish "Queen of Hearts". I wonder how Frederik and Mary are taking this? Assuming they go through with the divorce, I wonder if Alex will go back to working in investment banking? Sigh, I will be praying for them.

sommone 09-16-2004 03:53 PM

Wow...I wonder why they are divorcing? I couldn't believe it when I was reading the news on Yahoo. It's really a shame.

norwegianne 09-16-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bramair
I wonder if Alex will go back to working in investment banking?

Probably not. I think it would be rather hard to go back to being a relatively anonymous person when your children are in the line to a throne some place. She could go back to Hong Kong where I suppose it's easier to be one of the crowd, but as her children will have to stay in Denmark, at least for a while, and her parents also live there, and she's got a Danish citizenship, I assume she will be staying. Which is what was announced by the court as well.

Elspeth 09-16-2004 04:42 PM

Sad news. But I remember during the discussions about how Frederick and Mary met, there was some flirting going on in that pub which involved both him and Joachim with Mary and her friends, despite Joachim being a husband and father. If that behaviour was typical rather than an aberration, I can see why she might have been getting a bit fed up. She's already got two children to look after; it sounds as though her husband was turning into a third.

MoonlightRhapsody 09-16-2004 05:11 PM

NOO!!! Say it isn't so! What's going to happen to my favorite princess?!

HRH Kanga 09-16-2004 05:12 PM

It's sad when people divorce and it's especially hard on the children. However, I think I may be the only one who is not shocked by the news of their divorce. I could see it coming a mile away, but in the end it may be a good thing regarding their happiness (trust me I understand divorce very well as well as the implications they have on one's emotion's in the end.)

Sorry if my comments will upset some people, but remember this is my simple opinion so please don't yell at me if it upsets you.


Take care
:)

rop81 09-16-2004 05:12 PM

What will happen to the boys? Will they stay with Joachim in Denmark???

Accourding to the news that i have read the sons has to stay in denmark beacuse they are in line to the throne. The queen will deside over them until crown prince Fredrik & Mary get a child. So i guess alex will stay in denmark where her children will be for the nearest future.

MoonlightRhapsody 09-16-2004 05:19 PM

Out of curiosity, was Alexandra named princess in her own right and not in connection to her marriage to Joachim?

GrandDuchess 09-16-2004 05:25 PM

Oh my god! I can't believe what planet I've been living on, thinking that the rumours were just rumours - nothing more! I mean they must've decided to put on a mask for the public, since it wasn't long ago (Saturday?) that we saw them smiling at a wedding! I honestly thought that it was just ill meaning rumours, and in the fantasy planet I must be living on - I thought they had a great marriage....

This is a total chock! And so sad, especially for the boys... I sincerely hope that they will be able to continue on as some sort of friends, and handle the situation in the excellent way that The Duke and Duchess of York have handled things.

MoonlightRhapsody 09-16-2004 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandDuchess
Oh my god! I can't believe what planet I've been living on, thinking that the rumours were just rumours - nothing more! I mean they must've decided to put on a mask for the public, since it wasn't long ago (Saturday?) that we saw them smiling at a wedding! I honestly thought that it was just ill meaning rumours, and in the fantasy planet I must be living on - I thought they had a great marriage....

This is a total chock! And so sad, especially for the boys... I sincerely hope that they will be able to continue on as some sort of friends, and handle the situation in the excellent way that The Duke and Duchess of York have handled things.

Tell me about it! I open up my browser and went to the Hello! website and the headline hit me like a ton of bricks! I was gaping in shock for a few seconds there. I really thought that if any of the younger royal couples would make it to a happily-ever-after it'd be Joachim and Alex. To think that she gave up her citizenship, her religion, her whole life to be with Joachim. Plus she's a hard-working princess to boot. She's represented Denmark extremely well. I hope she retains her role as a representative of Denmark, even as the role of Prince Felix and Nikolai's mother.

HRH Kanga 09-16-2004 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlightrhapsody
Out of curiosity, was Alexandra named princess in her own right and not in connection to her marriage to Joachim?

I believe she was, MLR. If she remarries, she'll lose her title. In the meantime, she'll remain HRH Pss. Alexandra; however, after the divorce she'll be titled Her Highness Alexandra (I recieved this information from Marlene on Scan. Royals MB.) But, like I said before, if she remarries she'll be Alexandra Manley (enter new last name here.)

norwegianne 09-16-2004 05:52 PM

Her title after the divorce will be Her Highness Princess Alexandra.

azile 09-16-2004 05:57 PM

Well, Prince Albert of Monaco is single...... she could remarry AND be a princess!

Just joking! However, in all seriousness, I do not mean to make light of this situation. The reality is however that none of us knows what was going on in this relationship. It may be that Alexandra does find true happiness with someone else. She certainly deserves that and my guess is that we would all wish that for her.

And- she has certainly proven herself to be a woman of excellent character, loyalty and judgement. We can all rest assured she will not let anything harm her children through this whole ordeal.

RoXyGiRl 09-16-2004 06:05 PM

DIVORCE Alexandra and Joachim
 
So prince Joachim is divorcing princess alexandra!!!!!
they say its for "personal reasons"...but there has been news that he CHEATED...yea cheated on her. I am very interested in the royal families of the world and ive often read that before his marriage he was a party animal and prefered football games and partying rather than royal duties.
Over the last couple of months they have been forced to put on a smiling face in public especially at the wedding of frederick and mary. The Queen decided it would be unfair to the newlyweds if they broke the news of the divorce before now...but apparently they have been living separate lives for quiet some time now...and well...Joachim has been having the time of his life

Alisa 09-16-2004 06:08 PM

No.....
 
From all accounts it appears to be a mutual decision.

See the couple's official statement:

Quote:

"After long and difficult considerations we have mutually decided to apply for a separation order and will subsequently seek a divorce. We are in agreement on the conditions and will undertake joint custody of our children.

We wish as far as possible to maintain our official functions and continue to work with the many organisations with which we are related.

Throughout the years we have experienced much kindness and friendliness and we hope that the difficult decision we have made will be met with understanding".

RoXyGiRl 09-16-2004 06:15 PM

yea it was a joint decision but the reason is because while Alexandra is often representing her country...joachim prefers to party...and i saw on T.V. that there is news that he cheated

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RoXyGiRl
yea it was a joint decision but the reason is because while Alexandra is often representing her country...joachim prefers to party...and i saw on T.V. that there is news that he cheated

I truly wish the media would respect their privacy and stop speculating or digging up the reasons. It is their business and only their business.

Mette2 09-16-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rop81
What will happen to the boys? Will they stay with Joachim in Denmark???

Accourding to the news that i have read the sons has to stay in denmark beacuse they are in line to the throne. The queen will deside over them until crown prince Fredrik & Mary get a child. So i guess alex will stay in denmark where her children will be for the nearest future.

I heard on the news that because Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra will be sharing custody of their children she can actually move to another country with them but Joachim has to give his consent. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

To the news itself I think it's very sad and completely unexpected.

HRH Kanga 09-16-2004 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ennyllorac
I think we need to be very careful about what we post. We shouldn't speculate what the problems are.

Exactly! I'm tired already of hearing some pretty nasty rumors regarding the couple...enough is enough. Unless you have first hand knowledge regarding their relationship you should be chary (look it up) about what you say.

Be supportive and don't blame/point fingers as to who did what to whom.

:)

timtonruben359 09-16-2004 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth
Sad news. But I remember during the discussions about how Frederick and Mary met, there was some flirting going on in that pub which involved both him and Joachim with Mary and her friends, despite Joachim being a husband and father. If that behaviour was typical rather than an aberration, I can see why she might have been getting a bit fed up. She's already got two children to look after; it sounds as though her husband was turning into a third.

While this is very upsetting for the Danish people, and indeed for royal watchers around the world, we must avoid temptation in assigning blame for the breakdown of the royal couple's marriage. Divorce, well at least usually, is something both husband and wife decide is in both their interests and the interests of their children.

I think the best thing to do is to keep in our thoughts and prayers, if you're so inclined, Princess Alexandra, Prince Joachim, Her Majesty the Queen, and his Royal Highness Prince Henrik and of course their children.

Mette2 09-16-2004 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by galuhcandrakirana
Thanks for the translation........still hard for me to believe it :(

You're welcome. Yeah, I can't believe it either.:(

There's a more accurate translation on this thread somewhere in case mine was confusing.:)

sky 09-16-2004 07:24 PM

Their divorce
 
When I read the title on a website,I thought it was someone guessing that they'll divorce because I knew about the rumors in their marriage. But as soon as I read it was ture felt like someone had hit me in the chest and I was just shocked. It seemed unbelieveable. A part of me still kind of doesn't believe it.:confused: They were one of the royals that I thought would last.Over the last few months they have seemed apart, but sometimes I would see them link arms or something and Alexandra ran over to Joachim on their engagment and held on to his arm and then he patted her hand, but they soon let go of each other, so maybe that was some sort of a sign. Anyway this is really sad, they are one of may fav. couples and is the couple that drew me to the dannish royal family.It's going to be weird now. I also kind of feel sorry for joachim's future wife ( if he remarries) because she is always going to be compered to Alex. I hope Alex as a HH is still able to going to balls and things like that.

pdas1201 09-16-2004 07:25 PM

I can't believe this is happening? I just logged on LTR and read the news, I am still in deep shock. How could this happen to a couple we all thought was the best suited for each other? We voted them as living together for the rest of their life.
I just can't say how shocked I am. But I understand that their decision was mutual and amicable. God give them the strength to get through this tough time.

bad_barbarella 09-16-2004 07:45 PM

i thought the prince would have more rights to the kids or is that only with a crowned prince... was it jealousy or did they fall out of love?

pdas1201 09-16-2004 07:48 PM

Just saw this picture, from Prince Fredrick's wedding (no doubt they were having problems then) but looking at this picture, one can't for a second think (no matter how good of a face reader they are) think that this couple is having problems. It's just shocking....

bramair 09-16-2004 07:50 PM

As I thought of how I felt about this whole thing, one song came to mind that seemed to fit: the sad song Hallelujah from the movie Shrek. I don't agree with all of the song but I thought some of the following lines would be appropriate:

Maybe I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time you'd let me know
What's real and going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you
The holy dark was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a God above
And all I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

If I have misunderstood this song, forgive me. But it's what's running through my head right now as I think of Joachim and Alex.

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pdas1201
https://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-7...5ae02dda26a%7D
Just saw this picture, from Prince Fredrick's wedding (no doubt they were having problems then) but looking at this picture, one can't for a second think (no matter how good of a face reader they are) think that this couple is having problems. It's just shocking....

Perhaps they are at a point of their life that they realize that they are just good friends. No one truly knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Fiona 09-16-2004 07:57 PM

I no longer believe the fairy tale

Paulina 09-16-2004 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ennyllorac
I truly wish the media would respect their privacy and stop speculating or digging up the reasons. It is their business and only their business.

Let's remember, the media, especially the tabloids, have been right frequently. It's just that they report things we are scandalized by and don't believe and don't want to believe. On Charles and Diana they were right about things over 90% of the time.


And isn't this what message boards are for? To speculate and discuss and analyze and be a community around a common interest, in this case royals? I'm very curious to know what the reasons are for the divorce decision. It's a very serious decision and it affects the country of Denmark and its view of its royal family and also the duties that the RF carries out. The desire to know and understand J & A' s reasons are reasonable, in my opinion.

I'm just glad that Henrik and HM Margrete did not divorce when they had problems at various times or a couple of years ago when Henrik flounced off to France in a funk.

Also does anyone know, I doubt anyone would, but if the J & A had some marital counseling? I am from California and counseling is considered here a healthy thing to do in times of crisis or despair.

Ennyllorac 09-16-2004 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulina
Let's remember, the media, especially the tabloids, have been right frequently. It's just that they report things we are scandalized by and don't believe and don't want to believe. On Charles and Diana they were right about things over 90% of the time.

And isn't this what message boards are for? To speculate and discuss and analyze and be a community around a common interest, in this case royals? I'm very curious to know what the reasons are for the divorce decision. It's a very serious decision and it affects the country of Denmark and its view of its royal family and also the duties that the RF carries out. The desire to know and understand J & A' s reasons are reasonable, in my opinion.

Paulina,

I respect your opinion and I see your point. However, I do believe everyone has a right to privacy and the relationship between a husband and wife I believe is private. Yes, it does affect the country of Denmark but privacy should be respected.

bramair 09-16-2004 09:01 PM

Just gleaned some tidbits from stories in Hong Kong Yahoo! Don't know how factual they are but here they are:
  • Most people believe they are divorcing because their personalities and backgrounds are too dissimilar, that Alex can't stand being neglected by Joachim, and thus wants a divorce.
  • Danes opposed to the monarchy say they will oppose a separate stipend for Alex. Instead, they think Joachim ought to pay alimony.
  • Back in 2003, when Alex went to HK by herself, there were rumors of a troubled marriage. Joachim visited HK with her in January but then went to China by himself.
  • Danes are supposedly saying on the internet that they think Alex is a mature woman who couldn't stand Joachim's immaturity and decided to go her separate way.
  • According to Danish tabloids, the marriage had been in trouble for at least half a year. Also, they had problems in 1998 because Joachim was upset at Alex for not having a child yet.

MoonlightRhapsody 09-16-2004 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mette2
I heard on the news that because Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra will be sharing custody of their children she can actually move to another country with them but Joachim has to give his consent. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

To the news itself I think it's very sad and completely unexpected.

I don't think so. There's something about succession rules that will prevent Alexandra from taking the boys from Denmark, with or without Joachim's consent. Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix are third and fourth in line for the throne since their uncle doesn't have his own children yet. I don't think they can leave the country. Plus, didn't Mary have to sign a contract saying that when she has children, she can't take them with her in the event of a divorce? I don't remember if Alexandra and Joachim have the same clause.

Anyway, in my opinion, I think Joachim's having mid-life crisis. Maybe he married too young and hadn't had time to "sow his wild oats" as they say. I have noticed in the past year that Joachim seems to be more interested in the "wilder" parties around and Alexandra's been more visible in official duties.

I think that if this divorce even goes through, he'll run around wild for awhile, realize what he lost, then regret his decision. I have a gut feeling that he was the one who initialized the divorce proceedings.

Victoria1999 09-16-2004 09:08 PM

Hello,
I am new here. I just found out about Joachim and Alexandra. I don't get it. Everyone here was saying that they both are very happy couple.


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