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Marisaa 12-18-2013 01:04 PM

Charlotte is a mother! :D it's been ten years since I follow her life. How wonderful, another Grimaldi generation to follow! :D :D :D

Dman 12-18-2013 01:10 PM

Congrats to Charlotte and welcome baby Raphael.

Empress Merel 12-18-2013 01:12 PM

Congrats to Charlotte and Gad! Raphael Elmaleh has a really great sound to it and even sounds kind of Christmas-y.

Nadezhda 12-18-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Empress Merel (Post 1626816)
Congrats to Charlotte and Gad! Raphael Elmaleh has a really great sound to it and even sounds kind of Christmas-y.

Congratulations to Charlotte and Gad! :rose2:
Actually Raphael is a Hebrew name:
Behind the Name: Meaning, Origin and History of the Name Raphael

C4A 12-18-2013 01:47 PM

Has it been confirmed that he will take Gad's surname?

FESAC 12-18-2013 01:52 PM

congratulations to both, i wish that charlotte and her baby raphael have good health

Biri 12-18-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by C4A (Post 1626825)
Has it been confirmed that he will take Gad's surname?

Why not? I an sure Gad will officially recognize him as his child.

Lee-Z 12-18-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by C4A (Post 1626825)
Has it been confirmed that he will take Gad's surname?

You know what: "Raphael Casiraghi" sounds equally good :flowers:

Marengo 12-18-2013 02:42 PM

I am not sure if this is possible in France, but in some countries it is possible for the parents to select the last name, even when their parents are married. Still, it is an exception when children of a (married) couple receive the last name of the mother.

Congratulations to the couple (& grand mothers). Raphael is a lovely name IMO.

carlota 12-18-2013 03:06 PM

lovely news, congrats to the couple. hopefully they will release some pictures!

i love the comment in the official announcement on that "the grandmas are doing fine": such a wink to gad´s profession! :)

i don´t really like the name raphael, although it sounds better in french than in any other languages i know.

Sephora 12-18-2013 03:20 PM

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
So Raphael will have both nationalities, Monegasque and Moroccan, since Gad is a Moroccan who got also French citizenship on 2002 by naturalisation processus, and since French citizens can't get the Monegasque citizenship :-)

LadyFinn 12-18-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephora (Post 1626850)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
So Raphael will have both nationalities, Monegasque and Moroccan, since Gad is a Moroccan who got also French citizenship on 2002 by naturalisation processus, and since French citizens can't get the Monegasque citizenship :-)

Dual nationality is strictly forbidden under Monégasque law.

Jaya 12-18-2013 03:28 PM

Congratulations first to HRH Princess Caroline for becoming a grandmother by her second child the equally lovely Charlotte Casiraghi. Thankyou Princess Caro for being all that you have been and are.To Charlotte Casiraghi and to Gad E congratulations on bringing your greatest creation to life Rafael.
And finally Congrats to all the uncles and aunts that have been created as a result especially HSH Prince Albert and HSH Princess Charlene.{great uncle and great aunt}

Biri 12-18-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaya (Post 1626855)
And finally Congrats to all the uncles and aunts that have been created as a result especially HSH Prince Albert and HSH Princess Charlene.

Albert is, in fact, Raphael's great-uncle; his uncles are Andrea and Pierre Casiraghi and Arie Elmaleh; aunts are Princess Alexandra of Hannover and Judith Elmaleh.

Sephora 12-18-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 1626852)
Dual nationality is strictly forbidden under Monégasque law.

Charlotte doesn't have Italian nationality beside the Monegaque one???
In Luxemburg also the dual nationality is forbidden, but there's a bilateral agreement with a country like Morocco, because Moroccan citizens and their families cannot be deprived of their Moroccan nationality in any case according to the constitution.

I know many Moroccans in Luxemburg who got both passports. I don't know if there's such as agreement between Monaco and Morocco. I also know many French and Belgian people who asked for Luxemburgisch citizenship, but they had to drop their French or Belgian nationality, it was the case of Stéphanie de Lanoy when she got married to Luxemburg's crown prince.

fandesacs2003 12-18-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 1626838)
I am not sure if this is possible in France, but in some countries it is possible for the parents to select the last name, even when their parents are married. Still, it is an exception when children of a (married) couple receive the last name of the mother

In Greece when a couple marry they have the right to choose if their kids will bear the surname of the father or the mother. But i can guarantee you that the percentage choosing mother's surname is near zero!

Frelinghighness 12-18-2013 05:19 PM

Lovely name, an archangel! Hope we get a picture, pretty please! And would love to know his size too!

rominet09 12-18-2013 06:10 PM

I really doubt we will get a pic (or from behind and from papparazzi) such a pity, I hope he has his father's eyes !

Mademoiselle Lilo 12-18-2013 06:48 PM

i love the name Rafael.
Congratulation to Gad and Charlotte.

COUNTESS 12-18-2013 08:18 PM

Charming. And they will marry some time in the future and perhaps give the baby a last name. On the other hand, don't blame the baby, I am sure he is adorable and should live a long and happy life.


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