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mybags 05-17-2003 12:18 PM

Prince Guillaume, Princess Sibilla and Family, Current Events 1: May 2003 - Feb 2005
 
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1. At the wedding of Crown Prince Haakon of Norway. August 25, 2001.
2. At the wedding of Princess Alexandra zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg. June 6, 1998.
Behind them is Prince Kryil and Princess Rosario of Bulgaria.
3. Prince Henrik of Denmark celebrates his sixtieth birthday.
Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla attending.
4. National Holiday in Luxembourg.

Mandy 05-17-2003 12:37 PM

Nice picture mybags! Guillaume & Sibilla make a lovely couple. :flower:

Alexandra 06-06-2003 03:21 PM

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I turned the photos!

(corbis)

Jalmey 06-06-2003 06:52 PM

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Thanks Alexandra!! That makes a world of difference! Did you just use a Photo program to change directions?

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1. -04/12/2003. Wedding of PrinceLaurent of Belgium with ClaireCoombs: Civil ceremony at the city hall of Brussels Jean, Sibilla & Guillaume of Luxembourg © Photo News / Gamma 734755

2 & 3. -01/31/2002. Dinner party and ball to celebrate QueenBeatrix of the Netherland's birthday. Jean of Luxembourg with his wife Helene Vestur © Benainous-Duclos / Gamma 711475

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LLAR la Princesse Sibilla et le Prince Guillaume entourés par leur fils Paul-Lo•s et leurs jumeaux Charlotte et Léopold Luxembourg - 20/09/2001 © doc MPA / IBL 10903

Alexandra 06-25-2003 03:26 PM

Prince Guillaume seems to have recovered well after his serious accident. Nice to see pictures of the happy family.

mybags 09-13-2003 08:28 PM

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1. Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla at the concert on the day before the wedding of Prince Laurent of Belgium and Claire Coombs
2. Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla at the wedding of Crown Prince Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands and Maxima Zorreguieta
3. Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla at the wedding of Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands and Laurentien Brinkhorst

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The car in which Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla were gravely injured.

Prince Guillaume fell into a coma and Princess Sibilla broke her leg. The brake was bad enough to require screws in Princess Sibilla's leg.

Fireweaver 09-15-2003 12:27 PM

what accident was this? The car looks horrible, they were lucky to survive.

mybags 09-15-2003 09:59 PM

Back in September 2000, Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla were driving in France (I think it was France) and they were gravely injured in a car crash. Prince Guillaume suffered from cranial traumatism and fell into a coma. Princess Sibilla suffered a broken leg but required screws in it for the leg to heal properly. The man who hit them had high blood alcohol levels. Grand Duke Jean's abdication ceremony had to be postponed for several days because of the concern for Prince Guillaume's health.

Fireweaver 09-17-2003 02:16 PM

Wow, they were extremely lucky to survive. Thanks for the info!

mybags 10-30-2003 02:17 PM

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1. Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla at the funeral of Prince Claus of the Netherlands 10/15/2002.
2 & 3. Princess Sibilla of Luxembourg at a wedding in Germany (this was after the car accident). Princess Sibilla escorted by Christian von Oldenburg
4. wedding of the Prince and Princess

USCtrojan 12-13-2003 12:53 PM

Can anyone explain why they married in France and not in the beautiful Notre Dame Cathedral in Luxembourg City?

kelly9480 01-01-2004 03:36 AM

I was told that it was because that's where her family was living at the time.

samitude 01-24-2004 05:30 PM

Princess Sibilla of Luxembourg, wife of Prince Guillaume, is expecting her fourth child in July 2004!

mybags 01-24-2004 07:03 PM

This is great!! Wow! I can't believe it! Congrats to Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Gabriella 01-25-2004 01:34 AM

Congratulations to them. There must really be something in the water in Europe lately...

emsaeva 01-25-2004 01:36 AM

Congrats to them!! :clap:

Martine 05-08-2004 02:57 PM

some older pics from Seeger

family picture

family picture

family picture

birth of the twins

birth of the twins

birth of the twins

Beate 05-11-2004 10:54 AM

A more recent pic at their cousin Alexandra's confirmation.

Sibilla and Guillaume's children

USCtrojan 05-11-2004 11:38 AM

I can't wait to see photos of the new baby or babies.... How wonderful it will be ...

Beate 05-11-2004 12:59 PM

Yes, she look spretty big.. It could be twins yet again...:) She is due in July, right?

Martine 05-30-2004 06:56 AM

Here are some more pics

https://www.seegerpress-online.de/topixx/da...GER00116349.jpg

https://www.seegerpress-online.de/topixx/da...GER00116348.jpg

carlota 06-29-2004 03:44 AM

can i ask who is exactly guillaume? is he henri's brother? if so, i know he has one more brother and a sister... how are they named?

gaggleofcrazypeople 06-29-2004 10:10 PM

Guillaume is Henri's youngest brother. In between these two brothers are twins. Their names are Jean and Margaretha (thats definetly not the right way to spell it.)

TaShBaBe86 06-29-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by carlota
can i ask who is exactly guillaume? is he henri's brother? if so, i know he has one more brother and a sister... how are they named?

Jean and Josephine-Charlotte have 5 children.

Marie-Astrid b.1954
Henri b.1955
Jean and Margaretha (the twins) b.1957
Guillaume b.1963

*i don't think i spelled margaretha right either lol*

:heart: :flower: TB

carlota 06-30-2004 03:43 AM

many thanks, TaShBaBe86 and gaggleofcrazypeople!
there is a big age difference between guillaume and henri!

do the twins or marie astrid have family?

any news on the new born? ;)

Sancia 06-30-2004 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by carlota
any news on the new born? ;)

The baby is born?

carlota 06-30-2004 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Danielane
The baby is born?

:P sorry... future new born
he is expected for the first days of july

TaShBaBe86 06-30-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by carlota
many thanks, TaShBaBe86 and gaggleofcrazypeople!
there is a big age difference between guillaume and henri!

do the twins or marie astrid have family?

;) your very wlecome carlota!

all 3 of them are married and have children

Marie-Astird is married to Archduke Karl Christian of Austria, they have 5 children.

Jean is married to Helene Vastur she is french, he gave up his rights to succesion when he married her, they have 4 children.

Margaretha is married to Prince Nikolaus of Leichtenstien, they have 3 children.

:flower: :heart: TB

carlota 06-30-2004 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShBaBe86
;) your very wlecome carlota!

all 3 of them are married and have children

Marie-Astird is married to Archduke Karl Christian of Austria, they have 5 children.

Jean is married to Helene Vastur she is french, he gave up his rights to succesion when he married her, they have 4 children.

Margaretha is married to Prince Nikolaus of Leichtenstien, they have 3 children.

:flower: :heart: TB

as i see all the brothers married to aristocrats and noblewomen. do you think josephine charlotte didn't like maria teresa as the future grand duchess, as she wasn't royal (however, i think she comes from a rich cuban family)?

TaShBaBe86 06-30-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by carlota
as i see all the brothers married to aristocrats and noblewomen. do you think josephine charlotte didn't like maria teresa as the future grand duchess, as she wasn't royal (however, i think she comes from a rich cuban family)?

I think that Josephine-Charlotte didn't like Maria-Teresa at first because it is her eldest son and you know how mothers can be. lol But not all their children married noblewomen or aristocrats. Helene Vastur Prince Jean's wife isn't noble which is one of the reasons he gave up succession. Josephine-Charlotte didn't like her and their first child was born before their marriage in 1987 (Marie-Gabrielle was born in 1986). But I think like any good mother J-C was just watching out for her eldest son and now if anything she at least respects M-T.

:heart: :flower: TB

mybags 06-30-2004 02:44 PM

Josephine-Charlotte still does not like Maria Teresa. Maria Teresa has spoken out about how J-C has tried to destroy her marriage and drive a wedge between her and Henri.

gaggleofcrazypeople 06-30-2004 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaShBaBe86
Helene Vastur Prince Jean's wife isn't noble which is one of the reasons he gave up succession. Josephine-Charlotte didn't like her and their first child was born before their marriage in 1987 (Marie-Gabrielle was born in 1986).

Didn't they get a divorce?

TaShBaBe86 07-01-2004 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gaggleofcrazypeople
Didn't they get a divorce?

I'm not sure I just know that she was a main reason that he gave up his rights of succession.

And My Bags I do to remember hearing that M-T cried a lot because J-C didn't like her I guess no one really knows whats going on there. :wacko:

:flower: :heart: TB

gaggleofcrazypeople 07-01-2004 12:49 AM

Why can't J-C just understand that her children are all grown up? She shouldn't control them.

GrandDuchess 07-14-2004 08:26 AM

Luxemburger Wort writes today, that Princess Sibilla yesterday 13 July 2004 at 2 p.m. gave birth to a son at the Maternité Grande-Duchesse Charlotte (weight 3380
g, height 51 cm). The little prince of Nassau has been named Jean André Guillaume Marie Gabriel Marc D'Aviano.

From the paper:

Prinzessin Sibilla schenkt viertem Kind das Leben
Das "Luxemburger Wort" wünscht dem jüngsten Spross der Familie und seinen Eltern alles Gute für die Zukunft

Wie uns auf Anfrage hin vom großherzoglichen Hof bestätigt wurde, schenkte Prinzessin Sibilla, die Gattin von Prinz Guillaume, gestern um 14 Uhr in der Maternité Grande-Duchesse Charlotte ihrem vierten Kind, einem Knaben, das Leben. Der kleine Prinz hört auf den Namen Jean, André, Guillaume, Marie Gabriel, Marc D´Aviano. Er wiegt 3 380 Gramm und ist 51 Zentimeter groß. Er ist nach Paul-Louis, geboren 1998, und Léopold, der zusammen mit seiner Zwillingschwester Charlotte im Jahr 2000 das Licht der Welt erblickte, der dritte Sohn von Prinz Guillaume und Prinzessin Sibilla.

Wir wir des Weiteren in Erfahrung bringen konnten, sind Mutter, Kind - und der Vater wohlauf.

Das "Luxemburger Wort" wünscht dem jüngsten Spross der Familie und seinen Eltern alles Gute für die Zukunft.

BMC 07-14-2004 01:23 PM

Congratulations to the Princess & her family :flower:

carlota 07-17-2004 04:08 AM

great! congratulations...

will there be a special presentation of the new born with all the family?

Alexandra 08-08-2004 05:23 PM

A long time since I have been here. How is it with te new Princess/prince of Luxemburg, has the baby already arrived?

rere 08-08-2004 05:30 PM

Wort.lu has photos of hi christening.

Alexandra 08-08-2004 05:42 PM

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by rere
Wort.lu has photos of hi christening.

Danke, rere, hab gefunden.

Pity, it was a boy, I always am for little princesses!

Alexandra 08-08-2004 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaShBaBe86
;) your very wlecome carlota!


Margaretha is married to Prince Nikolaus of Leichtenstien, they have 3 children.

:flower: :heart: TB


In fact Margaretha/Marguerite and Nicolas have 4 children. Their very first child, a boy called Leopold died soon after his birth. I think he lived only a few days. Before that Margaretha had a miscarriage.

"Leopold of Liechtenstein 1984-1984
The oldest son of princess MARGARETHA of LUXEMBURG 1957 – and his husband prince NIKOLAUS OF LIECHTENSTEIN 1947-
PRINCE OF LIECHTENSTEIN
Born: 20 May 1984 in Brüssel, Belgien
Name: LEOPOLD Emanuel"


I also would like to know, where the little one is buried, little Leopold.
It must have been a great shock for the poor young parents, to bury a first child.

gaggleofcrazypeople 08-14-2004 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexandra
I also would like to know, where the little one is buried, little Leopold.
It must have been a great shock for the poor young parents, to bury a first child.

Thats so sad! My heart goes out to them!

carlota 08-15-2004 05:47 AM

true, it has to be hard. why did he die? any native illness? fortunately their other children are ok...

gaggleofcrazypeople 08-16-2004 10:01 PM

Thats a very good question. I can't find that one out.

gaggleofcrazypeople 08-17-2004 10:21 PM

Could it have possibly been genetic?

carlota 08-18-2004 06:08 AM

i don't think so... if so, maria anunciata, astrid and leopold would have also some part of that genetic disease.

gaggleofcrazypeople 08-18-2004 08:20 PM

Why wouldn't they be there?

carlota 08-19-2004 03:53 AM

they probably not. i think the only brother of guillaume who attend was henri with teresa and i think there was also alexandra.

suturegeisha 08-19-2004 10:47 AM

I thought I saw Jean there too........or, I could be quite mistaken. ;)
Kisses!
-Kara-

mybags 08-19-2004 12:27 PM

Marie-Astrid and her family were the only members of the Luxembourg family not in attendance. Princess Margaretha and her husband Prince Nikolaus also attended.

gaggleofcrazypeople 08-24-2004 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlota
they probably not. i think the only brother of guillaume who attend was henri with teresa and i think there was also alexandra.

Their daughter?

carlota 08-24-2004 08:44 PM

yes... princess alexandra of luxembourg

suturegeisha 09-20-2004 11:39 PM

Guillaume & Sibilla- royal duties?
 
It seems as though this couple, although they are quite private, also carry out a number of royal duties [for example attending foreign weddings and state visits], more so than any of Guillaume's siblings other than Henri.
Does anyone know exactly why that is? I'm assuming that once Guillaume [the crown prince] gets married, they'll cut back. I'm also curious as to why they live at Colmar-Berg with Henri and his family, and no one else in the family does...maybe I'm wierd, but that just seems strange to me.
Thanks in advance!
-Kara-

USCtrojan 09-20-2004 11:45 PM

I seem to find that they are among the discreate of the Lux royals. I see Guillaume out on a few. Maybe Sibilla every now and then, not as busy as I thought they would be.

gaggleofcrazypeople 09-21-2004 07:42 AM

Well, Guillaume did marry a very wealthy woman.

USCtrojan 09-27-2004 04:00 AM

Yes he did. Quite wealthy indeed, and a great grand daughter of HM King Alfonso XIII and Queen Ena of Spain.

gaggleofcrazypeople 09-27-2004 07:54 AM

So do they do things related to Spain?

bad_barbarella 10-03-2004 05:22 AM

i think they make a cute couple because they never flash themselves in the media

Cathérine Bergeyck 10-03-2004 08:05 AM

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Guillaume & Sibilla at the beatification of archduke Karl of Austria. 03/10/2004.

gaggleofcrazypeople 10-03-2004 06:48 PM

What does beatification mean?

suturegeisha 10-03-2004 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gaggleofcrazypeople
What does beatification mean?

From the Catholic Forums:
"(Latin: beatus, blessed; facere, to make) The declaration by the pope as head of the Church that one of its members deserves for saintly life as confessor or heroic death as martyr, to be entitled Blessed, that is, regarded as dwelling in the happiness of heaven. The declaration is preceded by a double process, the first consisting of an examination into the life, virtues, writings, and reputation for holiness, or martyrdom, of the Servant of God in question, conducted ordinarily by the bishop of the place in which he or she died or lived a long time. In the case of a martyr no miracles are required in this first process, but they are required for others. The second process, known as the Apostolic process, is instituted by the Holy See in case the first inquiry shows that there is a likelihood of proving that the Servant of God practised virtue to an heroic degree, or died by the heroic death of martyrdom. To go further and obtain canonization, miracles are required for both martyrs and confessors."

In other words, beatification is the last step before being made a Saint. To become a Saint, which is to be cannonized, one must perform a miracle.

-Kara-

gaggleofcrazypeople 10-04-2004 10:05 PM

Thank you for I am not Catholic.

suturegeisha 10-04-2004 11:34 PM

You're welcome :D . My teacher had to practically beat that into my head [along with the Apostle's prayer] when I was in catechism.

-Kara-

hania 10-06-2004 05:22 AM

hi there, did they by any chance have the baby and what is its name?

suturegeisha 10-06-2004 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hania
hi there, did they by any chance have the baby and what is its name?

Yes, Prince Guillaume and Princess Sibilla had a baby boy in July. His name is Jean André Guillaume Marie Gabriel Marc D'Aviano.

-Kara-

gaggleofcrazypeople 10-06-2004 05:56 PM

Wasn't he already christened?

Marengo 10-06-2004 06:01 PM

Yes he was, I have the point de vue issue with pictures of it. I enjoyed it very much as I finally got a glimpse of the children of Prince Jean & Helene Vestur (very attractive) and Josephine-Charlotte was their as well which I found very brave, she was wearing a turban to cover her bold head.

gaggleofcrazypeople 10-07-2004 06:54 AM

Just to make sure I'm not totally nuts, you mean bald head, right?

Danielle 10-07-2004 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gaggleofcrazypeople
Just to make sure I'm not totally nuts, you mean bald head, right?

Yeah, I'm sure that's what he means. Bald and bold kind of sound the same anyway. =)

bad_barbarella 11-03-2004 10:55 PM

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This thread is a dedication to the early days... im sure you would all be interested in how they met.. how this love story began... was Sibilla born in luxembourg... did they meet at uni? There are so many questions...

We have all watch the sparks and the romance that started with mary and fredrick... how did there story begin...

We do know that once apon a time in a land far far away there lived a luxembourg prince Guillaume... who lived with his family.....

and.....:p

here are some early photos i think if anyone has any info plz post mwa

gaggleofcrazypeople 11-07-2004 06:21 PM

She was from a very rich family, right?

Alisa 11-07-2004 06:50 PM

Yes she is from a very wealthy family...

Mandy 11-08-2004 01:54 PM

Would anyone have pictures of Prince Jean that they wouldn't mind sharing with us? I'm working on a Christmas project and I would love to have pictures of Prince Jean from his Baptism. Thanks in advance.

gaggleofcrazypeople 11-09-2004 08:13 AM

There aren't many pics of him cause he gave up his rights to the throne.

elenaris 12-21-2004 09:35 AM

really?
 
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Originally Posted by chanel
Yes he did. Quite wealthy indeed, and a great grand daughter of HM King Alfonso XIII and Queen Ena of Spain.

This s really interesting: could you tell me of whom she is thegrand daughter??? some Juan Carlos os Spain' aunt??? Many thanks.

mybags 12-21-2004 11:18 AM

Princess Sibilla is the granddaughter of Infanta Beatriz of Spain and Don Alessandro Torlonia. She is the great-granddaughter of King Alfonso XIII and Queen Victoria Eugenie (Ena) of Spain. She is the great-great-granddaughter of Princess Beatrice of Great Britain and Ireland and Prince Henry of Battenberg. She is also a great-great-great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of Great Britain and Ireland.

By the way, Princess Sibilla's late father, was one of the richest men in France.

Source: QVD

gaggleofcrazypeople 12-21-2004 05:32 PM

In other words, she's very blue blooded.

hillary_nugent 12-22-2004 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mybags
Princess Sibilla is the granddaughter of Infanta Beatriz of Spain and Don Alessandro Torlonia. She is the great-granddaughter of King Alfonso XIII and Queen Victoria Eugenie (Ena) of Spain. She is the great-great-granddaughter of Princess Beatrice of Great Britain and Ireland and Prince Henry of Battenberg. She is also a great-great-great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of Great Britain and Ireland.

golly...and J-C still didn't like her? I thought Royals loved people with good connections and are from good families...

suturegeisha 12-22-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hillary_nugent
golly...and J-C still didn't like her? I thought Royals loved people with good connections and are from good families...

No, J-C liked Sibilla. It's Maria-Teresa she supposedly disliked.

Princess Sibilla annoys me for reasons I don't understand. :mad:
Lollies!
-Kara-

bad_barbarella 12-27-2004 05:23 AM

i love Princess Sibilla when she wears the belgium tiara :)

msfroyste 12-27-2004 05:35 AM

i wonder why m-t never wears, or never gets to wear, the scroll tiara? what's going on there and just what is j-c's problem? i understand she comes from the old school and all when it comes to blue blooded marriages, but i would've thought that most ppl would've moved on and beyond that way of thinking. i feel that the most important thing that she should be concerned about should be the happiness of her childeren. they're the ones getting married, not her and tough to her for not putting her foot down, if she didn't want to marry jean-if the rumors are true. but back on topic, she should come up off the jewels and "spread the wealth" so to speak, and share with m-t b/c she is the current grand duchess and b/c she more than deserves to have her pick of the jewels. *smiles.

hillary_nugent 12-27-2004 07:24 AM

what is the scroll tiara?

gaggleofcrazypeople 12-28-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bad_barbarella
i love Princess Sibilla when she wears the belgium tiara :)

Why would she wear that one?

msfroyste 12-28-2004 01:39 AM

princess sibilla was seen wearing the belgium scroll tiara to some event. although, i'm not sure of any of the other princesses wearing it, i've never seen any of them doing so, m-t in particular. so, imo, there must be some favoritism going on there. oh and for hillary nugent, i think the scroll tiara was a wedding gift for j-c from the people of belgium, not the belgian congo. it can be seen in some of her other wedding photos.

rere 12-28-2004 01:47 AM

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MT has never worn the large diamond tiara (big one in the familiy).
First pix- Wedding Portrait Charlotte and Felix
Second pix - Wedding Portrait Josephine-Charlotte and Jean
I hope MT wears the tiara during celebrations for her 25th wedding anniversay.

Sibilla usually wears a diamond Art Deco tiara that can be worn two ways.
She looks so regal in these pictures.
Sibilla and Guillaume attended May 2002 wedding in Norway. She wore the Belgian Diamond Tiara - wedding gift tfrom Belgian bankers to Josephine-Charlotte. MT has never worn this tiara.

rere 12-28-2004 01:53 AM

Msfroyste,

Sorry, I didn't see your response because I was posting my message. I think there is some favoritism going on. I don't think J-C has ever fully accepted M-T the way she has Sibilla.

Rere

msfroyste 12-28-2004 02:13 AM

it's ok. i couldn't agree with you more. it seems that the only daughter-in-law that she's accepted IS sibilla, which i think is so sad, especially considering all that m-t does for the world.

drimal 12-28-2004 04:12 AM

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Pics of civil marriage of Prince Guillaume and Sibilla Weiler on 8th September 1994

On 8th September 1994 Prince Guillaume and Sibilla Weiler married civil in Sélestat (Alsace/F). The church marriage was in the Saint Louis-Cathedrale in Versailles (F) 0n 24.09.1994. I'm looking for these pictures.

But for now enjoy the pics of the civil marriage:

KatieLouise 12-28-2004 04:21 AM

Did JC not want to marry Jean? I thought that she agreed to marry Jean without even asking her father's permission first!

hillary_nugent 12-28-2004 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by msfroyste
oh and for hillary nugent, i think the scroll tiara was a wedding gift for j-c from the people of belgium, not the belgian congo. it can be seen in some of her other wedding photos.

Thanks mate ^___^ and thanks for the pics Drimal...

why was Guillaume's and sibilla's marriage ceremony so simple? did they want it that way?

msfroyste 12-28-2004 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KatieLouise
Did JC not want to marry Jean? I thought that she agreed to marry Jean without even asking her father's permission first!

there was something that was said about that topic on another thread. someone said that she was in love with someone else and got pushed into her marriage with jean and that she cried on her wedding day, wish is sad. had it been me, i would've fought it as much as possible. in other words, it sounds as if her marriage was arranged by her godmother, grand duchess charlotte and possibly by one of her parents, astrid and/or leopold.

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Originally Posted by hillary_nugent
Thanks mate ^___^ and thanks for the pics Drimal...

why was Guillaume's and sibilla's marriage ceremony so simple? did they want it that way?

yes, thanks for the pics. i'm assuming that those are pictures of their civil ceremony and those are rarely "flashy", so to speak. kinda like going to the justice of the peace here in the us.

bad_barbarella 12-28-2004 07:38 PM

but i saw photos of her in a wedding dress

gaggleofcrazypeople 12-28-2004 10:10 PM

There were two weddings.

hillary_nugent 12-29-2004 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by msfroyste
there was something that was said about that topic on another thread. someone said that she was in love with someone else and got pushed into her marriage with jean and that she cried on her wedding day, wish is sad. had it been me, i would've fought it as much as possible. in other words, it sounds as if her marriage was arranged by her godmother, grand duchess charlotte and possibly by one of her parents, astrid and/or leopold.

awww....that is sad...who do you think she was in love with? Does she love Jean now?

msfroyste 12-29-2004 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hillary_nugent
awww....that is sad...who do you think she was in love with? Does she love Jean now?

well, according to the rumor mill, she was in love with a commoner, and she actually wanted to marry him. as you know, back then, that simply would not do so, apparently, an arranged marriage with jean was cooked up by their families, and the two were pushed together. as for her loving jean now, that's something only she, jean, and their family would know the definite answer to. however from what i've seen from pics of them as a couple, and if the rumors are true, love could've possibly blossomed between the two over time.*smiles.

hillary_nugent 12-29-2004 03:09 AM

wow...thanks for the information msfroyste it's much appreciated ^__^

hm...i find JC rather contradicting...she wanted to marry a commoner and yet she wasn't happy about HEnri marrying MT....hm...unless it had to do with something else and not because MT was a commoner...

msfroyste 12-29-2004 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hillary_nugent
wow...thanks for the information msfroyste it's much appreciated ^__^

hm...i find JC rather contradicting...she wanted to marry a commoner and yet she wasn't happy about HEnri marrying MT....hm...unless it had to do with something else and not because MT was a commoner...

according to another tidbit on the rumor mill, j-c disapproves of mt b/c of her ethnic background, which i think is pathetic AND sad. j-c seems like she'd be such a classy lady, above and beyond such petty things as racism, but if the rumors are true, apparently not. some other things were discussed on a previous thread under the lastes news topic, such as j-c making mt's life hell since she married into the family. *shakes head sadly.

bad_barbarella 12-29-2004 03:56 AM

i dont think anyone should judge anyone... we are all human... mt didnt have any control over where she grew up... :(

hillary_nugent 12-29-2004 03:58 AM

golly...that is pathetic...i can't believe that race even became an issue...i just hope that they were just rumours...but i've never seen pictures of JC and MT showing a close motherly-daughter relationship...

msfroyste 12-29-2004 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bad_barbarella
i dont think anyone should judge anyone... we are all human... mt didnt have any control over where she grew up... :(

i couldn't agree with you more. no one asks to be put on this planet or into this plane of existance, nor do they control what circumstances in which they are born into. mt is, from what i've deduced, an extraordinary person who deserves extraordinary respect b/c of all that she has done for the world alone. but if j-c prefers sibilla to mt and her other daughter-in-laws, then that's her choice. it would be fair if she would show equal preference to them all.


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