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lula 07-22-2011 05:48 AM

Summer Holidays in Mallorca: 2011-2012
 
The plans of the King are not closed and everything will depend on the recovery of his knee.

The Queen will arrive to Mallorca in the next days, and it is possible that also the Infantas.

The Asturias family will arrive at the end of month because the Prince travels to Peru on July 28.

The Cup of the King will be from August 1st to 6th, and the Prince of Asturias will participate.


The family will have to be in Madrid from August 18 to August 21 for the Pope´s visit.

El Papa marca la agenda real - Diario de Mallorca

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Duke of Marmalade 07-22-2011 06:02 AM

Las vacaciones ms improvisadas de la Familia Real

Some more information from this article:

- Before the Pope visit, some family members are likely to return to Majorca to do the annual goodbye dinner with island authorities
- Cristina will have to return to the US quite early because of school start in Washington
- Elena will need to prepare Victoria's stay at a boarding school in England, following into her brother's footsteps

As Letizia said last year in public, she doesnt consider the stay in Majorca as "vacation", I guess as usual the Princes will leave to an undisclosed destination most likely after the King's Cup has taken place.

Monna 07-22-2011 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1290219)
As Letizia said last year in public, she doesnt consider the stay in Majorca as "vacation", I guess as usual the Princes will leave to an undisclosed destination most likely after the King's Cup has taken place.

And have a real vacation, private family time without paparazzies... good for them!

So Victoria will study in England too? Poor Elena, both kids so far away.

jjkg 07-24-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1290219)

As Letizia said last year in public, she doesnt consider the stay in Majorca as "vacation", I guess as usual the Princes will leave to an undisclosed destination most likely after the King's Cup has taken place.

Duke - Do we know that it is Letizia alone who feels that Majorca is not a vacation, and not the rest of the RF, mainly the King and Queen, and Prince Felipe?
Yes, Letizia made a comment to this effect during a private conversation which that woman leaked to cause some damage to Letizia. ( As an aside, she had to retract and run away next day. I gather this woman thinks only royalty should marry royalty and was not a fan of Leti. Her name escape me presently.)

But how do we know that Letizia was not echoing a familial sentiment as the King, Queen do escape to other destinations too. So Letizia did not start this trend.

I am sure you did not mean it, but your comment read as passive aggressive put-down of Letizia when none was warranted.

If it was not, my apologies:flowers:

Duke of Marmalade 07-25-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjkg (Post 1291692)
Duke - Do we know that it is Letizia alone who feels that Majorca is not a vacation, and not the rest of the RF, mainly the King and Queen, and Prince Felipe?
Yes, Letizia made a comment to this effect during a private conversation which that woman leaked to cause some damage to Letizia.

But how do we know that Letizia was not echoing a familial sentiment as the King, Queen do escape to other destinations too. So Letizia did not start this trend.

I am sure you did not mean it, but your comment read as passive aggressive put-down of Letizia when none was warranted.

If it was not, my apologies:flowers:

Letizia's statement was quoted in the article I was referring to. I dont think any family member particulary enjoys the Majorca stay & fuss that is going with it but saying so in public is a different matter. I dont think that comments royals make when visiting media outlets and speaking to the employees there can be considered "private" therefore it was an unfortunate event.

jjkg 07-25-2011 03:04 AM

My memory is perhaps faulty. But wasn't it some aristocrat who leaked this private conversation to the press, and not a comment that Letizia made to a member of press. I may be wrong. But I do recall a tempest in a teapot when a duchess of something or other, made the comment to the press that Letizia should put up with press intrusion and shutup. The next day she had to retract and leave the island.

Duke of Marmalade 07-25-2011 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjkg (Post 1291747)
My memory is perhaps faulty. But wasn't it some aristocrat who leaked this private conversation to the press, and not a comment that Letizia made to a member of press. I may be wrong. But I do recall a tempest in a teapot when a duchess of something or other, made the comment to the press that Letizia should put up with press intrusion and shutup. The next day she had to retract and leave the island.

Doa Letizia: Esto son vacaciones privadas? - ABC.es
"Hoy a las infantas les toca abuela" | Yo Dona

I think it was a comment to a journalist, something that cannot considered "private".

Carminha Stalker 07-25-2011 07:23 AM

The translation to this phrase of Princess Letizia: "Are these private vacations ?"when she was asked a question by the press.

Burzg 07-25-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1291756)
Doa Letizia: Esto son vacaciones privadas? - ABC.es
"Hoy a las infantas les toca abuela" | Yo Dona

I think it was a comment to a journalist, something that cannot considered "private".

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Bine221 07-25-2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1291732)
Letizia's statement was quoted in the article I was referring to. I dont think any family member particulary enjoys the Majorca stay & fuss that is going with it but saying so in public is a different matter. I dont think that comments royals make when visiting media outlets and speaking to the employees there can be considered "private" therefore it was an unfortunate event.


Not sure whether I would enjoy Majorca as "private holidays" if you have 100 photographers around you every day, watching every step and commenting every face expression. Being present so much on the "silver tablet" day and night .... So it is a kind of "no holidays", Letizia is right...

I think, thy are making it right, staying in Majorca for some days, posing for the photographers, presenting the infantas and then flying out to a unknown destination to have their peace and real relaxiation.

BYe Bine

julia garcia roch 07-25-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bine221 (Post 1291843)
Not sure whether I would enjoy Majorca as "private holidays" if you have 100 photographers around you every day, watching every step and commenting every face expression. Being present so much on the "silver tablet" day and night .... So it is a kind of "no holidays", Letizia is right...

I think, thy are making it right, staying in Majorca for some days, posing for the photographers, presenting the infantas and then flying out to a unknown destination to have their peace and real relaxiation.

BYe Bine

absolutely!

lula 07-26-2011 04:57 AM

Infanta Elena and her children arrived to Mallorca. Froilan and Victoria attend sailing school.

La Reina acompaña a sus nietos a Calanova » Quiosco Rosa » Vips » Ultima Hora

Froilán y Victoria estrenan el verano - Diario de Mallorca

Froilán y Victoria estrenan el verano. diariodemallorca.es _generico_

Carminha Stalker 07-26-2011 07:33 AM

How great to see Infanta Elena and her children in Mallorca. I hope soon we´ll see Infanta Cristina and her brood.

An Ard Ri 07-26-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker (Post 1292330)
How great to see Infanta Elena and her children in Mallorca. I hope soon we´ll see Infanta Cristina and her brood.

Their children all look so happy together,pity they all live so far apart.Hope they all have a wonderful holiday & reunion.

ladejesus 07-26-2011 08:18 AM

Thanks lula! It's great to see Froilan and Victoria. I can't wait to see the rest of the SRF kids!

Here's an Hola! article: https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_esp...lena-mallorca/

lula 07-26-2011 11:49 AM

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Carminha Stalker 07-26-2011 01:45 PM

Yes, AN ARDI, those cousins together, are a joy to watch!I hope we´ll be lucky to see lots of photos of them this summer.

An Ard Ri 07-26-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker (Post 1292504)
Yes, AN ARDI, those cousins together, are a joy to watch!I hope we´ll be lucky to see lots of photos of them this summer.

That would be great,always nice to see the Infantas & their families.

Carminha Stalker 07-27-2011 05:56 PM

Please forgive me AN ARD RI for spelling your name wrong.:lucky:

lula 07-28-2011 10:49 AM

Froilán and Victoria sailing

Froilán quiere ser marinero | Divinity#

An Ard Ri 07-28-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker (Post 1293121)
Please forgive me AN ARD RI for spelling your name wrong.:lucky:

I hadn't noticed but its no problem Carminha Stalker:flowers:

LadyFinn 07-29-2011 05:22 AM

The queen and infanta Elena sailing on Somni
La reina y la infanta Elena, paseo en la ´Somni´ - Diario de Mallorca

La Reina Sofía, una feliz abuela en Mallorca con Froilán y Victoria Federica - Bekia

Carminha Stalker 07-29-2011 07:16 AM

The Infanta Elena´s two children are demonstrating they are true Borbons, for they enjoy sports like their mother, uncle, aunt and grandfather. It´s great to see them so happy in Mallorca for their holidays.

lula 07-29-2011 09:00 AM

Queen Sofia and Infanta Elena sailing in the Somni

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Queen Sofía with Froilan and Victoria

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lula 07-29-2011 09:20 AM

The dinner with the authorities of the Balearic Islands will be at the beginning of the vacations and not at the end.

Cena con las autoridades de Baleares. Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España

August 5

Royal Family

Dinner with the authorities of the Balearic Islands
Almudaina Royal palace. Palma

lula 07-30-2011 05:05 AM

Queen Sofía, Infanta Elena, Froilán, Victoria, Miguel and Irene. Urdangarín family arrived yesterday.

La reina presume de nietos. diariodemallorca.es _generico_

Carminha Stalker 07-30-2011 07:56 AM

I am very happy to see little Irene in Mallorca. She has grown so much and its nice she gets along so well ith her cousins Marichalar. Now, I´m sure we´ll get some photos of the boys as well.

ladejesus 07-30-2011 08:02 AM

I love the one of Victoria and Irene holding hands. So cute! Thanks lula!

Kasumi 07-30-2011 08:07 AM

Thank you, Lula, for sharing lovely photos!:flowers:
Irene has grown a lot since the last time.

lula 07-30-2011 03:34 PM

Prince Felipe has arrived to Palma to begin training. Princess Letizia and the girls have not yet arrived.

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LadyFinn 07-30-2011 03:38 PM

El príncipe Felipe llega a Mallorca para participar en la Copa del Rey de Vela | col2 | Noticias de Mallorca
El príncipe competirá a bordo del ´Hispano´ de León y Sánchez Luna - Diario de Mallorca

Lyonnaise 07-30-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula (Post 1294870)
Prince Felipe has arrived to Palma to begin training. Princess Letizia and the girls have not yet arrived.

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Why aren't they there yet :sad: Honestly, the only three people that I want to see pictures of, and they're probably going to sneak in during the night when all the photographers have gone home!

LadyFinn 07-31-2011 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyonnaise (Post 1294980)
Why aren't they there yet :sad: Honestly, the only three people that I want to see pictures of, and they're probably going to sneak in during the night when all the photographers have gone home!

We have never seen photos of Felipe, Letizia and the girls arriving to Palma...

lula 07-31-2011 09:15 AM

Infanta Cristina returns to the competition and she will sail in the AIFOS of the Spanish Navy.

30 COPA DEL REY AUDI MAPFRE

Marika86 07-31-2011 09:51 AM

Queen Sofia And Her Grandchild Froilan Sighting In Mallorca. July 28, 2011

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Ilse 07-31-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 1295227)
We have never seen photos of Felipe, Letizia and the girls arriving to Palma...


I believe they are arriving tomorrow.:flowers:

lula 07-31-2011 11:46 AM

Prince Felipe and Infanta Cristina on the second day of training

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Lyonnaise 07-31-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 1295227)
We have never seen photos of Felipe, Letizia and the girls arriving to Palma...

I was more commenting on Letizia and the girls not being there yet. Sure, we didn't see photos of Felipe arriving, but we've seen a photo of him practicing on the boat. That's more what I meant.

LadyFinn 07-31-2011 04:02 PM

El Príncipe y doña Cristina se entrenan en la bahía de Palma - Diario de Mallorca

Roxsteve 07-31-2011 07:19 PM

Strange that Letizia is nowhere to be seen YET! I think she is waiting for the Infantas to leave LOL!!!

lula 08-01-2011 05:26 AM

More photos of last friday

Fotos Froiln y Victoria Federican ejercen de canguro con su prima Irene

Froilán y Victoria Federica ejercen de primos mayores - Noticias Familia Real - Familia Real - Diez Minutos

Queen Sofía, Princess Irene, Infanta Elena, Iñaki Urdangarín and his children in the Somni on Saturday

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Froilán playing in the Fortuna on Sunday

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Carminha Stalker 08-01-2011 07:27 AM

It´s really great to see these little cousins having so much fun together. The way Froilan and Victoria are enjoying the company of little Irene and Miguel is heartwarming. I was lucky to have cousins to play with when I was a child. It´s a bond that very seldom breaks with the passing of time.

lula 08-01-2011 07:39 AM

COPA DEL REY: MONDAY 1ST

Royal Family arrives to the Nautical Club

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kathia_sophia 08-01-2011 07:49 AM

i love to see the children having good time together, it always makes me smile.
now cant wait to see the little infantas^^

lula 08-01-2011 09:09 AM

Video

Comienza la Copa del Rey de vela con la ausencia del rey Juan Carlos ? Videos en lainformacion.com

Duke of Marmalade 08-01-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 1295550)
Strange that Letizia is nowhere to be seen YET! I think she is waiting for the Infantas to leave LOL!!!

could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

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lula 08-01-2011 09:50 AM

30th edition of the Copa del Rey in Palma de Mallorca.

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lula 08-01-2011 10:00 AM

Video

El Príncipe y la Infanta Cristina compiten en la Copa del Rey de vela - ANTENA3.COM

Photos

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grevinnan 08-01-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1295869)
could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

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I seriously doubt Letizia was in charge of with whom the Queen would socialize.

lula 08-01-2011 10:43 AM

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donnaK 08-01-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1295869)
could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

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Letizia and the girls usually showed up on Tue or Wed, this year probably Tue since the concert has been moved from Wed to Tue. I think she still follows her schedule. The rest of the family also follow their own schedule, this year they show up early (Cristina is sailing this time), the last few years they didn't go to Malloca until after the race, it's their own decision.
Isn't Letizia grandpa's birthday at the end of July ? Maybe Rocasolanos had a family gathering over the weekend as previous years.

Emmily 08-01-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1295869)
could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

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It is hard to believe she hasn't made an appearance yet, isn't it?

donnaK 08-01-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmily (Post 1295987)
It is hard to believe she hasn't made an appearance yet, isn't it?

More like it's hard to believe the family of the infantas had come so early this year (their own decision and freedom though) :lol:. The royal yacht club is usually very crowded and messy on the first day of race. Letizia and girls usually didn't make an appearance until Tue or Wed, I doubt it will change this year.

Marika86 08-01-2011 02:15 PM

"Hola" Queen Sofia and her grandchildren, the best animation for Prince Felipe and Princess Cristina on the first day of racing

La reina Sofía y sus nietos, los mejores animadores de don Felipe y doña Cristina en el primer día de regatas de la Copa del Rey de Vela

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lula 08-01-2011 02:42 PM

Meeting of His Majesty the King with the president, Mr. Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero
Marivent palace. Palma

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dazzling 08-01-2011 02:57 PM

Queen Sofia looks great surrounded by her grandchildren, she must love spending time with them especially as most of them are in Washington most of the year.

Has Christina sailed before? Is she on t he same team as Felipe?

I miss seeing Letizia and the girls, I'm sure they will make an appearance soon.

lula 08-01-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 1296042)

Has Christina sailed before? Is she on t he same team as Felipe?

I miss seeing Letizia and the girls, I'm sure they will make an appearance soon.

Infanta Cristina sailed for many years in the ship Azur de Puig with his cousin Alexia. She left the competition in 2004, and in 2007 she sailed one day. She does not navigate in the same ship that the prince.

Like DonnaK wrote, the princess and the girls usually go the second or third day.

Carminha Stalker 08-01-2011 03:39 PM

I am delighted to see those photos. The Queen, the Infantas, Iñaki, Felipe and the children all enjoying the summer days.
It´s lovely to see Cristina back sailing along her brother.

lula 08-01-2011 04:57 PM

King Juan Carlos of Spain Receives President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero in Marivent Palace

King Juan Carlos of Spain Receives President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero in Marivent Palace - Pictures - Zimbio

lula 08-01-2011 05:09 PM

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Felipe d'Espagne : Compétiteur royal décontracté à bâbord !

jjkg 08-01-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1295869)
could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

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Here we go again with the meme of Letizia bored with royal life :bang:

Consider the following logic.

Situation 1: A new bride enters a royal family with a really steep uphill challenge to adjusting to the royal life. What does the queen do - to make her adjustment easier and help her adapt, befriends her and shows her the way. The new bride gets the most attention of the parent in law, as she is in need of the most attention/love/support
Time passes, the two live in the same compound, and get along famously. Behind the scenes, the now old-bride makes a lot of effort to see that her girls are as intimate as possible with their grand-parents as well as grand-aunt (queen's sister) Lots of stories on how the now old bride takes her little girls in their prams to visit with their grandmother and grand-aunt almost daily.

Life goes on

Situation 2: One of Queen's own daughters moves abroad with her family. Another sends her son abroad. The Queen now sees her grandchildren from her two daughters rarely, while she sees her daughter-in-law and her girls on almost a daily basis. What does the queen do? She now shifts her attention to her daughters and kids during the precious little time that she sees them, e.g. summer holidays, as they deserve her complete love/attention/support.

What does the daughter-in-law do? Being secure in the affections of the queen and not being a needy person, looking to upstage her sis-in-laws at every event, gives them a few days of pure mother-daughter-grandkids hangout. She knows when she arrives, the press circus starts. Additionally, maybe she takes the same days to recreate the mother-daughter-grandkids holiday with her own mother.



Letizia hatred aside, don't most of us do the same?

donnaK 08-01-2011 06:15 PM

jjkg, excellent post ! Also Elena's daughter is going to England to study starting this fall. The Asturian family lives next door to Zarzuela, it's only logical that Sofia spends more time with her other grandchildren during the summer holidays since they will be all far away when the school starts.
JC had a meeting with the PM on Monday in Mallorca . I doubt Zarzuela wanted the media circus overshadowing the King's official activities.

lula 08-01-2011 06:49 PM

And do not forget this... these photos of the Queen, her daughters, grandchildren and different relatives enjoying the Fortuna and the Somni are taken because the Princess and her daughters are no there.

The Spanish press is very hypocritical, and while some enjoy the privileges, others working more, are strongly criticized if they enjoy them. We have not seen Princess Letizia and Infanta Leonor a in royal yacht since 2008, and the only time that we saw the Infanta Sofía, she was 4 months old.

chuchu 08-01-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lula (Post 1295764)

Queen Sofía, Princess Irene, Infanta Elena, Iñaki Urdangarín and his children in the Somni on Saturday


Froilán playing in the Fortuna on Sunday

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How many yachts does the SRF have? Somni and Fortuna?

chuchu 08-01-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lula (Post 1295875)
30th edition of the Copa del Rey in Palma de Mallorca.


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Is the woman in the picture the daughter of Infanta Margarita?

Emmily 08-01-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjkg (Post 1296127)
Here we go again with the meme of Letizia bored with royal life :bang:


What does the daughter-in-law do? Being secure in the affections of the queen and not being a needy person, looking to upstage her sis-in-laws at every event, gives them a few days of pure mother-daughter-grandkids hangout. She knows when she arrives, the press circus starts. Additionally, maybe she takes the same days to recreate the mother-daughter-grandkids holiday with her own mother.



Letizia hatred aside, don't most of us do the same?

How does questioning why Letizia hasn't made an appearance yet = hatred of Letizia?

jjkg 08-01-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 1295869)
could well be ;)
How much the enthusiasm of the early years has gone when Letizia couldnt wait to show up at Nautical club with her supposed best friend, the Queen, and show the united family front. In the meantime, the glamour has worn off completely.

https://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/511...0A760B0D811297
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Originally Posted by Emmily (Post 1296212)
How does questioning why Letizia hasn't made an appearance yet = hatred of Letizia?

Emmily, Of course not! DoM was not questioning why she was not there yet.

Rather DoM's comment was a continuance of the narrative, across threads, of "Letizia wanting to flee royal life". Witness the passive aggressive swipe at Letizia's relationship with her mother-in-law. And just to be clear that the question is not again of the nature of the narrative, but that it has been pulled out of thin air and is being reinforced whenever possible, when there has not been a single shred of evidence.

If she can posit and continue this "pulled out of air" narrative, surely I can push back when it gets too much for me? ;)

:flowers::flowers::flowers:

Roxsteve 08-01-2011 09:54 PM

Excuses, excuses...it is strange that Letizia is not there. The King should have been the last one to get there. Also, Felipe and his sisters look quite happy and relaxed without Letizia...

donnaK 08-01-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 1296257)
Excuses, excuses...it is strange that Letizia is not there. The King should have been the last one to get there. Also, Felipe and his sisters look quite happy and relaxed without Letizia...

Why ? He should be the first one to be there IMO :cool:. Although Mallorca was the summer vacation choice of Sofia, JC was the one who had agreed to accept perks from the business men in Mallorca (including the yacht). They are all on holiday and sailing, why would they not be happy or relaxed (as they always did with or without Letizia) ? Plus the first day sailing is like a semi photo session, whether they like it or not, they will keep up the appearance.

jjkg 08-01-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Roxsteve (Post 1296257)
Excuses, excuses...it is strange that Letizia is not there. The King should have been the last one to get there. Also, Felipe and his sisters look quite happy and relaxed without Letizia...

Actually, IIRC, King and Queen have usually been the first to arrive as the King, along with King Harold of Norway, participate in the regattas. Then Elena and Cristina come along, followed by Felipe. Letizia and her daughters are usually the last to arrive and first to leave.

But let the facts not get in the way ;);) Let the fun and speculations continue:flowers:

ETA:
She is only a day or two late. There could be a 101 reasons why Letizia is taking a few days as her own personal time. It could be anything from needing to spend time with her own family...to...wanting a bit of a break from Felipe. No matter how much couples love each other, sometimes they need a break from one another, especially with these two being in each others pockets 24/7.
If we had seen other signs of disquiet between Letizia and Felipe, then this kind of speculation may have some merit. But all we have seen is continuance of their usual need for each other. But no one knows what happens behind closed doors.

donnaK 08-01-2011 11:48 PM

jjkg, even if Letizia and the girls came early, they likely wouldn't see Felipe much. Usually those crew members were hanging out together after the practice or competition. She probably doesn't want her hubby to be laughed at by his teammates again after he said he couldn't hang out with them after the sailing and needed to go home to have dinner with his girls.

I think she was probably spending some time with her own parents, sister Telma. She was seen with Telma at the concert of Bon Jovi last Wed in Barcelona. People tend to forget Letizia also has a sister who is close to her and probably wants to spend some time together just like Elena and Cristina.

jjkg 08-01-2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnaK (Post 1296308)
jjkg, even if Letizia and the girls came early, they likely wouldn't see Felipe much. Usually those crew members were hanging out together after the practice or competition. She probably doesn't want her hubby to be laughed at by his teammates again after he said he couldn't hang out with them after the sailing and needed to go home to have dinner with his girls.

I think she was probably spending some time with her own parents, sister Telma. She was seen with Telma at the concert of Bon Jovi last Wed in Barcelona. People tend to forget Letizia also has a sister who is close to her and probably wants to spend some time together just like Elena and Cristina.

DonnaK, excellent point about Telma vis-avis Cristina and Elena.:flowers: Letizia and Telma's relationship must be even more poignant given Erica's demise. And given Letizia's royal duties, plus different cities, they rarely see each other

PS: good point about Felipe's friends laughing at him:lol:

Duke of Marmalade 08-02-2011 01:43 AM

It almost looks like some family members were summoned up, after the critizism of the last years, to promote Mallorca the "old" way: by sailing and spending some time on the yacht. Letizia doesnt sail or like the yacht, therefore could stay away because, as other posters suggest, would have spoilt the photo op of the others.
Whatever, it remains a shame that the girls dont get to spend time with their cousins, at least Leonor is the same age as Irene who is alongside the older children all the time.
I am curious if the Borbon girls will have to follow the sportif tradition of the family and soon learn to (publicly) sail, ski or do whatever, just like Felipe and his sisters.

donnaK 08-02-2011 03:36 AM

Letizia doesn't do regatta, probably doesn't like watching regatta (how boring !), but I doubt she doesn't like sunbathing on a high-speed luxurious yacht Fortune. Ummmm, who doesn't like Fortune that costed a fortune (10 mil ?) ?
Felipe and Letizia have their own circle of friends, most of them have children, for example, Felipe's cousins Cristina de Borbon dos Sicilias, Beltran and Bruno Gomez-Acebo. They are also said to keep in good contact with parents of classmates of their daughters, Leonor and Sofia don't lack playmates or friends.
Somehow I think the Asturias might spend more days in Malloca this year. They likely will go to their own private holiday after the visit of the Pope, will not return to Mallorca since the dinner with the local officials has already been moved up to Aug 6th (this Friday).

Monna 08-02-2011 03:44 AM

Letizia and the girls haven`t started their holiday yet and this thread is already ruined by those who spread malicious comments about her and speculation. I wonder why I`m still going to this forum...

LadyFinn 08-02-2011 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by donnaK (Post 1296358)
Letizia doesn't do regatta, probably doesn't like watching regatta (how boring !), but I doubt she doesn't like sunbathing on a high-speed luxurious yacht Fortune. Ummmm, who doesn't like Fortune that costed a fortune (10 mil ?) ?

Maybe Letizia likes to be at the Fortuna, but I have read during the years that she is never sunbathing (me neither!). Letizia promotes the skin cancer campaign and says that being tanned doesn´t mean you´re beautiful.
Letizia: “Estar moreno no es estar guapo” | Política y Moda

I hope that Letizia has spent these last days with her grandfather and mother. It´s precious time for Letizia, Leonor and Sofia being able to enjoy the company of Letizia´s very old grandfather, you should cherish this time.
It seems to many people to be always so fine to see Felipe, Cristina and Elena together. But when Letizia spends some time with Telma, there is something wrong. :ermm: Letizia has already lost one sister, so it is easy to understand how important Telma is to her.

Renata4711 08-02-2011 03:54 AM

Regarding Harald of Norway ..... is it likely that, under the cicumstances, he will take his holidays with the Spanish this year ??

Duke of Marmalade 08-02-2011 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnaK (Post 1296358)
Letizia doesn't do regatta, probably doesn't like watching regatta (how boring !), but I doubt she doesn't like sunbathing on a high-speed luxurious yacht Fortune. Ummmm, who doesn't like Fortune that costed a fortune (10 mil ?) ?

I dont blame her not to be into sailing, I believe its difficult to get into it if you dont have any relation to watersports as a kid and your parents arent wealthy enough to afford it. It isnt anyone's cup of tea, wouldnt be mine either.
Are you being ironical regarding having fun on the yacht? Seriously, I dont think there is any fun element to it, the Fortune is relatively small, photographers all around, smell of fuel, having to take seasick pills and watch some boats and the Borbon men sail?
I have no doubt that every single member of the SRF, maybe apart from the kids, who spends time on the Fortune doesnt do it for fun but because of fulfilling their commitments, its "work" so to day (at least in the bay area). It may be different when out of sight of the photographers near the remote islands, eg where the Letizia bikini shot was done a few years ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renata4711 (Post 1296366)
Regarding Harald of Norway ..... is it likely that, under the cicumstances, he will take his holidays with the Spanish this year ??

I doubt it, first because of the tragedy and second because he got the most fun out of sailing with his buddy JC who wont be able to go on a boat this summer anyway.

dazzling 08-02-2011 04:44 AM

Letizia will make an appearance with the girls when they decide too. It doesn't mean because the whole family is already there that she has to be. Maybe she is spending some time with her family. Letizia has been with the royal family all year long, some time away on her on with the girls is what any many family members would do, royal or not, so just give the poor women a break IMO.

donnaK 08-02-2011 04:49 AM

Duke, Yacht Fortuna is a big yacht (sure it's not like a royal caribbean cruise ship), Somni is small. The SRF usually sat on Somni watching the race, I know it was more a commitment, a show, I doubt anyone really enjoyed it.

https://www.merchantships.info/albums..._fortuna~0.jpg
MERCHANTSHIPS.info - Fortuna/Fortuna

Duke of Marmalade 08-02-2011 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by donnaK (Post 1296388)
Duke, Yacht Fortuna is a big yacht (sure it's not like a royal caribbean cruise ship), Somni is small. The SRF usually sat on Somni watching the race, I know it was more a commitment, a show, I doubt anyone really enjoyed it.

https://www.merchantships.info/albums..._fortuna~0.jpg
MERCHANTSHIPS.info - Fortuna/Fortuna

Yes I was talking about Somni that they wouldnt possibly enjoy but it might be different on the Fortuna that will sail out of sight of the paparazzi.

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jjkg
Letizia hatred aside, don't most of us do the same?
Wow, you consider some snarky remarks within a legitimate discussion "hatred"? Pretty strong words that I don't identify my contributions to this forum with. There are other forums around where something is practised that I would classify as "hatred", but thankfully not on TRF.

lula 08-02-2011 06:21 AM

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An Ard Ri 08-02-2011 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuchu (Post 1296191)
Is the woman in the picture the daughter of Infanta Margarita?

Its hard to tell but it could well be Doña Maria Zurita,I recall she was there last year also with the Infantas.

Carminha Stalker 08-02-2011 07:03 AM

Letizia or no Letizia, the family seems to be enjoying themselves, especially Felipe. It´s been a long time that I have seen him so happy and close to his sisters (especially Cristina who is sailing too). Mind you, PLEASE don´t interpret I´m insinuating it´s because Letizia is not there. Whatever the reasons, I´m glad they are happy and together and I feel sorry that the two infantitas can´t be closer to their cousins like little Irene is. Especially since these cousins are returning to the States soon and the other two are going to England to study.

AnaC 08-02-2011 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 1296433)
Its hard to tell but it could well be Doña Maria Zurita,I recall she was there last year also with the Infantas.

María Zurita, Infanta Margarita's daughter, arrived yesterday at the club with the Infanta Elena, and was seen in pictures with her aunt the Queen and her cousin Elena in the Sommi the other day.
It seems that now that both cousins are single they are each other "partner" ;)

AnaC 08-02-2011 07:08 AM

I'm sure all will be glad to know that the Princess, the young Infantas, the Queen, Irene and Victoria(i.e., all the girls of the family except the Infanta Elena) are in the Club to send off the Infanta Cristina and the Prince to the race :tongue:

Fanvanmaxima 08-02-2011 07:23 AM

Letizia, Leonor and Sofia arrived today.

ANNIE_S 08-02-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnaC (Post 1296459)
I'm sure all will be glad to know that the Princess, the young Infantas, the Queen, Irene and Victoria(i.e., all the girls of the family except the Infanta Elena) are in the Club to send off the Infanta Cristina and the Prince to the race :tongue:

Thanks, AnaC, for the info! :flowers:
Where have you seen that? Any phtos yet?:ermm:

lula 08-02-2011 07:49 AM

COPA DEL REY - DAY 2

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AnaC 08-02-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ANNIE_S (Post 1296474)
Thanks, AnaC, for the info! :flowers:
Where have you seen that? Any phtos yet?:ermm:

I haven't seen photos yet :sad:
The information is on twitter

ANNIE_S 08-02-2011 07:53 AM

Thanks a lot, Lula! So, today is girls´day ;)
I´m totally in love with Letizia´s dress! Although people here will say it´s too short :whistling: But I want it! :wub:

Water 08-02-2011 07:57 AM

Thanks for posting the pic

LadyFinn 08-02-2011 08:12 AM

Por fin apareció Letizia | col2 | Noticias de Mallorca
Los Príncipes y las Infantas Leonor y Sofía llegan al Club Náutico de Palma | Mira la foto - Yahoo! Noticias
Letizia llega a Palma con Leonor y Sofía-Gente y TV-El Periódico
Felipe and Letizia kissed lovingly.

From Hola!
La princesa Letizia y sus hijas Leonor y Sofía se unen a las vacaciones de las familia real en Mallorca

lula 08-02-2011 08:27 AM

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kathia_sophia 08-02-2011 08:31 AM

finally the girls!!!
sofia is going to be HUGE!!! maybe the tallest borbón women...
leonor is the prettiest young lady, very delicate and feminine^^

LadyFinn 08-02-2011 08:35 AM

Felipe, always the gentleman
ANP Beeldbank
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Carminha Stalker 08-02-2011 08:44 AM

Gosh, Sofia is so tall. She about the same size as her sister. Lovely photos of the family and children.

Lyonnaise 08-02-2011 08:46 AM

I'm glad to see Letizia and the girls.

However, now that I see the pictures, I can understand a little why Letizia may have chose to come later than the other members of the family: Sofia hates photographers. I wonder if Letizia is conscious about it and knowing that Mallorca is one continuous photoshoot, she preferred to keep her child away as long as possible. Didn't one other little one have to tell his/her bodyguard to make the photographers stop taking pictures while they were sailing? This must be really hard on a kid, having your every move documented.

That being said, I'm glad they're there- all three look great.

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Originally Posted by LadyFinn (Post 1296501)
Felipe, always the gentleman
ANP Beeldbank
ANP Beeldbank

:rofl: It looks like he helped his mom... and then decided it was easier just to pick Letizia up!!

HeLLeNa14 08-02-2011 08:51 AM

Thanks for all the links and pictures! Always lovely to see everybody! It is nice to see how all the children grow from year to year!

lula 08-02-2011 09:11 AM

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