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Iluvbertie 05-12-2010 09:00 PM

I am not comparing Beatrice to William NOW but Willam aged 21 to Beatrice aged 21 and she is streets ahead with the public side of life.
How William went in Australia is irrelevant to a comparison with Beatrice at the age of 21 as he is years older than she is now.

CrownPrincess5 05-13-2010 12:22 AM

Let's not get too carried away. I'm pretty sure Beatrice will never see the throne in her lifetime.

dianadebraga 05-13-2010 02:27 AM

Amen!! :sun:

muriel 05-13-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1079554)
What about the hangers-on = advisers etc? Tht is where the true costs are.

The same number of people could accompany William and Harry, irrespective of whether they went on one flight or two - so I am afaid, IMO, your argument in relation to costs is spurious.

muriel 05-13-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5 (Post 1079948)
Let's not get too carried away. I'm pretty sure Beatrice will never see the throne in her lifetime.

One would sincerely hope so!

Melibea 05-13-2010 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1079916)
I am not comparing Beatrice to William NOW but Willam aged 21 to Beatrice aged 21 and she is streets ahead with the public side of life.

How William went in Australia is irrelevant to a comparison with Beatrice at the age of 21 as he is years older than she is now.

I was just surprised that you questioned his public skills, I really thought that he was good with the press when he needs to, of course, as I know that he is not very fond of them. :ermm:

Iluvbertie 05-13-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melibea (Post 1080052)
I was just surprised that you questioned his public skills, I really thought that he was good with the press when he needs to, of course, as I know that he is not very fond of them. :ermm:


His public skills are ok now but at 21 (the age Beatrice is now) they were awful.

She is far better now than what he was then. That is the comparison I am making.

I am not questioning his skills now, which are satisfactory and nothing more, but rather where he was 7 years ago. If she is way better now than he was then the chances are that in 7 years she will still be way better then what he is now.

Iluvbertie 05-13-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muriel (Post 1080027)
The same number of people could accompany William and Harry, irrespective of whether they went on one flight or two - so I am afaid, IMO, your argument in relation to costs is spurious.


Not true - if they travel together they will only need one set of advisers for instance with who they are meeting etc on arrival but with travelling separately they will need two sets to tell them separately the background etc on arrival.

Lumutqueen 05-14-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1080238)
Not true - if they travel together they will only need one set of advisers for instance with who they are meeting etc on arrival but with travelling separately they will need two sets to tell them separately the background etc on arrival.

Well they share a private secretary so whose he going to fly with?
They have a certain number of staff and security for them don't they?
Why don't you just split that number down the middle and then they can all fly with no extra cost?
I'm sure they should know who they are meeting on the ground, before they set off. Just being taught on the plane is a bit stupid.
Watch them get out of the plane together when they land?

Warren 05-15-2010 02:54 AM

From the announcement of the trip to Southern Africa we're 4 days and 2 pages in and the discussion has veered off onto 'Beatrice as Queen', arguments over how the support staff should travel (and with whom), and even a mention of Isabel II of Spain (reigned 1833-1868).

It's probably best that we re-open the thread closer to the event.

If there is further news on the visit before it takes place, post it in the Wills or Harry current events threads and the mods will move the posts over.

thanks,
Warren
British Forums moderator

iceflower 06-14-2010 03:48 PM

Day 1


Prince Harry during a garden party to mark the official birthday of Queen
Elizabeth II on June 14, 2010 in Gabarone, Botswana.
Harry arrived ahead of his older brother William as they will begin a joint
tour of Southern Africa that will see them combine promoting their charity
interests with cheering on England's World Cup football squad.


Looks like a good, professional and still Harry-like ;) start of the journey!


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** Pic 4 ** Pic 5 **

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Lumutqueen 06-14-2010 04:01 PM

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Hours after attending the ceremony William jetted out with his bodyguards to Africa, where he is due to embark on his first joint official tour with younger brother, Prince Harry, on Wednesday.

The pair are visiting charity projects in Botswana and Lesotho on behalf of conservationists Tusk Trust and Sentebale, the charity Harry set up in memory of their late mother to help aids orphans.
They will then jet down to Cape Town to watch England's next World Cup match against Algeria on Friday before attending a reception to promote England's bid to hold the tournament in 2018.
Harry is already in Africa following a five-week safari holiday and will carry out a brief solo engagement in Botswana before his brother arrives.
William dons his finery for Order of the Garter Service, then it's off to the World Cup | Mail Online

iceflower 06-15-2010 07:47 AM

Day 2


Now both brothers are there!


Prince Harry and Prince William hold an African rock python during a visit
to Mokolodi Education Centre on June 15, 2010 in Gaborone, Botswana.

That first pic of today could be a great "Picture of the Month"! :smile:


** Pic ** zimbio/gettyimages gallery **

karla64 06-15-2010 08:58 AM

Tracking the predators and big cats of Botswana with the help of Prince William - Telegraph

karla64 06-15-2010 09:44 AM

DAY TWO..

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Hissss Royal Highness! Harry and Wills in fits as 10ft python relieves himself as they hold him | Mail Online

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...th-python.html

Lumutqueen 06-15-2010 11:42 AM

Prince snake charming: William and Harry meet slithery customer in Africa - hellomagazine.com

I chose to post this here because it discuss' Chelsy joining harry on the tour.

Quote:

Behind the partying that will be the inevitable accompaniment of Prince William and Prince Harry’s visit to South Africa this week lies a much more sombre purpose.
For Harry will be joined by his girlfriend Chelsy Davy as she returns to her homeland to comfort her grandmother following the death of her husband — a victim of Robert Mugabe’s brutal thuggery in Zimbabwe.
Chelsy Davy's secret visit to see grandmother who lost everything to Mugabe's thugs in Zimbabwe | Mail Online

avrilo 06-15-2010 01:36 PM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ur-begins.html
Prince Harry speaking and joking about his dad

Opal 06-15-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceflower (Post 1093782)
Day 2
That first pic of today could be a great "Picture of the Month"! :smile:

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That's for sure iceflower! :smile:
OMG you'd never catch me doing that, especially a snake that big!

I wouldn't mind petting a cheetah though. Aww
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...83_634x433.jpg

CrownPrincess5 06-15-2010 08:05 PM

Oh gosh, I love a man who isn't afraid of snakes!!!
They look so cute together...funny seeing them with the snake. Will looked a bit hesitant about it though, whereas Harry looked like he could have it for a pet.

I can't believe they're petting the cheetah either. I would have to stay inside on this official trip.

iceflower 06-16-2010 09:23 AM

Day 3


Prince William during a visit to the Coaching for Conservation project in
Maun, Botswana, Wednesday June 16, 2010.

Coaching for Conservation is an innovative conservation project being
run in Botswana, which marries football skills to wildlife protection, and
is run by the Botswana Predator Conservation Trust, which also teaches
youngsters self respect and awareness about the environment around
them.

On pic 3 William is pictured with American singer Joe Jonas, on of the
three Jonas brothers, so there's more popular support around :smile:


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** Pic 4 ** belga **


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