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Mysterious 06-28-2004 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
Morocco is a country where unfortunately problems don't lack, brilliant woman as she, would find easily a domain where she could bring something; for the meantime she seems enough unobtrusive to me compared to her sister-in-law , maybe she need of more than time to find her place

I don’t know country without the problems. Do you?
What do you want lalla Salma to bring for her country?

rosa 06-29-2004 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Mysterious@Jun 28th, 2004 - 4:59 pm
I don’t know country without the problems. Do you?
What do you want lalla Salma to bring for her country?

you want that I tell you what she should make, the answer is very simple, to imply herself in an action to car for it , each among us, has a domain in which, if he was able to, he would like to invest, and lalla salma must certainly have one also
Did I answer your question?

Mysterious 06-29-2004 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
you want that I tell you what she should make, the answer is very simple, to imply herself in an action to car for it , each among us, has a domain in which, if he was able to, he would like to invest, and lalla salma must certainly have one also
Did I answer your question?

I have a problem to understand how lalla Salma should imply herself in an action.
Lalla Salma is young, intelligent, modern lady with straight priorities. To give birth to a child and taking care of him is important as running a business or a country.

rosa 06-30-2004 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Mysterious@Jun 29th, 2004 - 8:09 pm
I have a problem to understand how lalla Salma should imply herself in an action.
Lalla Salma is young, intelligent, modern lady with straight priorities. To give birth to a child and taking care of him is important as running a business or a country.

it is a way to see the things, but for me, woman can be, very good mother , while having some activities in parallels, but it is obvious, that every woman has her own conception of the role that she has to play in the society; so for lalla salma, it consists only, in giving birth and to take care of her child, it is also a very noble work, around me I especially see active women that take care at the same time very well of their homes, therefore I think that women can make the two things at a time

Mysterious 06-30-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
it is a way to see the things, but for me, woman can be, very good mother , while having some activities in parallels, but it is obvious, that every woman has her own conception of the role that she has to play in the society; so for lalla salma, it consists only, in giving birth and to take care of her child, it is also a very noble work, around me I especially see active women that take care at the same time very well of their homes, therefore I think that women can make the two things at a time

Producing heir is a great responsibility. Princess Masako end up in bad condition for not being able give birth to the heir. Taking care of our children is also very important they are our future.
Lalla Salma is a great mommy and at the same time she is fulfilling her duty of Princess consort-wife of king Mohammed VI.
I have problem to understand what do you what her to do more.

rosa 07-03-2004 03:39 AM

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Originally posted by Mysterious@Jun 30th, 2004 - 3:48 pm
Producing heir is a great responsibility. Princess Masako end up in bad condition for not being able give birth to the heir. Taking care of our children is also very important they are our future.
Lalla Salma is a great mommy and at the same time she is fulfilling her duty of Princess consort-wife of king Mohammed VI.
I have problem to understand what do you what her to do more.

I think that I cannot be more clearly, I have say that a woman could have some activities in the same way at her family's life, the fact to have an activity doesn't stop a woman from having children and take care for them
you always ask me the same question, why must have she an activity, I answer you that she didn't oblige to have one, but lot of woman in her place would have one
PS: I would like to ask you a question, why at the time of the earthquake of el hoceima, is lalla meryem that visited to the wounded and not lalla salma?

Humble 07-03-2004 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
I think that I cannot be more clearly, I have say that a woman could have some activities in the same way at her family's life, the fact to have an activity doesn't stop a woman from having children and take care for them
you always ask me the same question, why must have she an activity, I answer you that she didn't oblige to have one, but lot of woman in her place would have one
PS: I would like to ask you a question, why at the time of the earthquake of el hoceima, is lalla meryem that visited to the wounded and not lalla salma?

Maybe there is a power conflict between Meriem and Salma...Maybe Meryem does not want to give up her position and does not accept that Salma be on the spotlight all the time...

gusto 07-04-2004 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Humble@Jul 3rd, 2004 - 2:00 pm
Maybe Meryem does not want to give up her position
:unsure: why should meryem to give up her position. maroc is big enought for 4 princesses :flower:

Mysterious 07-08-2004 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
I think that I cannot be more clearly, I have say that a woman could have some activities in the same way at her family's life, the fact to have an activity doesn't stop a woman from having children and take care for them
you always ask me the same question, why must have she an activity, I answer you that she didn't oblige to have one, but lot of woman in her place would have one
PS: I would like to ask you a question, why at the time of the earthquake of el hoceima, is lalla meryem that visited to the wounded and not lalla salma?

Do you want lalla Salma to jet around the world?
Lalla Meryem is a president of Mohammed V foundation. Mohammed V foundation was responsible for giving first help in the crisis situation. Lalla Meryem visited sites out of her responsibilities.
It wouldn’t be wise from lalla Salma to take over Lalla Meryem position. Take a look what happened to queen Rania when she took all of queen Noor positions. Both ladies queen Noor and lalla Meryem worked hard for years. It’s wrong for them to step down just because of new young addition to the families. :flower:

rosa 07-10-2004 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mysterious@Jul 8th, 2004 - 6:48 pm
Do you want lalla Salma to jet around the world?
Lalla Meryem is a president of Mohammed V foundation. Mohammed V foundation was responsible for giving first help in the crisis situation. Lalla Meryem visited sites out of her responsibilities.
It wouldnít be wise from lalla Salma to take over Lalla Meryem position. Take a look what happened to queen Rania when she took all of queen Noor positions. Both ladies queen Noor and lalla Meryem worked hard for years. Itís wrong for them to step down just because of new young addition to the families. :flower:
They have be able to go there together, but that, the first lady doesn't go at all to the bedside of the wounded of tragedy is unaccustomed

After two years of marriage, can one say that salma is well integrated in her new family?
What are her relations with the different members of the royal family?

samia 07-12-2004 04:02 AM

I agree with isis, all, finishes by being known
For me, she seems me relax and happy in public, therefore I think that she is well integrated in her new family

Mysterious 07-12-2004 11:10 AM

Iím sure no answer will be ever done to your satisfaction. Not at least with royal family.
You simply decided what lalla Salma should do. If she doesnít do it the way you want her, you are calling her unaccustomed, sophisticated, enough discreetÖ..
Letís look on the root of your problem. Tell me, why lalla Salma should be the one to go to Al Hoceima out of what responsibilities? Should all family forget about the rest of Morocco because of regional crises?

rosa 07-17-2004 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by Mysterious@Jul 12th, 2004 - 10:10 am
I’m sure no answer will be ever done to your satisfaction. Not at least with royal family.
You simply decided what lalla Salma should do. If she doesn’t do it the way you want her, you are calling her unaccustomed, sophisticated, enough discreet…..
Let’s look on the root of your problem. Tell me, why lalla Salma should be the one to go to Al Hoceima out of what responsibilities? Should all family forget about the rest of Morocco because of regional crises?

I have been dumbfounded while reading your message, you call regional crisis, an earthquake that plunge into mourning whole population, people lost their next of kin, their houses, and some times everything that they possessed on earth, the tragedy was so big that from all over the world the humanitarian help rushed, it was not therefore a regional crisis but a national tragedy and the presence of the first lady of the country was more that desirable

Mysterious 07-17-2004 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
I have been dumbfounded while reading your message, you call regional crisis, an earthquake that plunge into mourning whole population, people lost their next of kin, their houses, and some times everything that they possessed on earth, the tragedy was so big that from all over the world the humanitarian help rushed, it was not therefore a regional crisis but a national tragedy and the presence of the first lady of the country was more that desirable

While the earthquakes are always great tragedy and always touches all of us not just Moroccans but whole world, the leader has to stay in course and at the same time don’t forget about the rest of the country even in times of mournings.
Morocco didn’t get help from whole world, but some countries helped, some promised to help like Saudi Arabia but it stayed only with the promise.
An earthquake didn’t happed in all parts of Morocco but in North of Morocco that’s why it’s regional while the effect was not just national but international.
I don’t understand why is the presence of the first lady of the country more that desirable? Base on what? Your personal preferences?

rosa 07-21-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysterious
While the earthquakes are always great tragedy and always touches all of us not just Moroccans but whole world, the leader has to stay in course and at the same time don’t forget about the rest of the country even in times of mournings.
Morocco didn’t get help from whole world, but some countries helped, some promised to help like Saudi Arabia but it stayed only with the promise.
An earthquake didn’t happed in all parts of Morocco but in North of Morocco that’s why it’s regional while the effect was not just national but international.
I don’t understand why is the presence of the first lady of the country more that desirable? Base on what? Your personal preferences?

if salma did not appear in public, the question would not ask itself, but we saw her attending receptions and to go to Paris in visit, it seems to me that when a drama touches her country, it would be normal that she is at the coasts of those which suffer
all the queens do that, why not salma

yazz 07-22-2004 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by rosa@Jul 21st, 2004 - 1:34 pm
if salma did not appear in public, the question would not ask itself, but we saw her attending receptions and to go to Paris in visit, it seems to me that when a drama touches her country, it would be normal that she is at the coasts of those which suffer
all the queens do that, why not salma

In Paris, Salma was invited by Mrs Chirac and you know M6 is unable to say NO to Mr Chirac and explain him why he (and her sisters) don't want Salma to have social activities.
But in Morocco, he (Meryem in fact) is the cheef. She doesn't want to share anything with her, as Rania selfish attitude with Noor.

rosa 07-22-2004 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by yazz@Jul 22nd, 2004 - 4:33 am
In Paris, Salma was invited by Mrs Chirac and you know M6 is unable to say NO to Mr Chirac and explain him why he (and her sisters) don't want Salma to have social activities.
But in Morocco, he (Meryem in fact) is the cheef. She doesn't want to share anything with her, as Rania selfish attitude with Noor.

but, why M6 doesn't want his wife have social activities, I can understand the attitude of Meryem if she doesn't want to share anything (because she is in the first position during several years and it is difficult for her to take her place), but the first lady now is salma and the king can explain this for his sister

gusto 07-22-2004 12:30 PM

ladies just for your information lalla Mereym is not working as first lady

Asma2 07-27-2004 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa
but, why M6 doesn't want his wife have social activities, I can understand the attitude of Meryem if she doesn't want to share anything (because she is in the first position during several years and it is difficult for her to take her place), but the first lady now is salma and the king can explain this for his sister

Rosa, if anyone need some explanations, it is you. You simply do not understand the concept of royal and politic’ work.

I will bother myself (I really do not know why, because I already know it won’t help) to explain you the Princess Lalla Meryem situation.

For example: Princess Lalla Meryem is a goodwill ambassador for United Nation body Unesco. This position of hers has nothing to do with the fact that Morocco has a new first lady, or Princess Lalla Meryem being selfish (this is the most brainless suggestion I have heard), or with KM6 or with Princess Lalla Salma.

You need to learn and understand the concept of Princess Lalla Meryem work before you jump on your quick horse.

abir 08-18-2004 03:58 AM

She does not started yet social activities, so we don't expect to see pictures of her !! In Paris-Match interview with the King Mohamed VI, he (and she) said that she looks for an activity where she can perfrom weell !!! until then no pictures !!! (sad)


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