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vincent 04-12-2009 04:01 AM

Henri, Comte de Paris and Princesse de Joinville, religious wedding 26 September 2009
 
I guess most of you know it, but there is a second wedding arriving in the orléans family, the religious wedding of the comte de Paris, father of prince jean, duc de Vendôme.
It will take place on the 26th of september in Biarritz, and will be rather a big event. the religious witness for the comte de Paris will be HRH princess maria da gloria d'Orléans Bragance, duchesse de Segorbe, ex wife of prince alexander of yougoslavia. She is a firts cousin of king juan Carlos and the comte de Paris. His wife witness, will be the duchess de Magenta.
The wedding is finally taking place because after 35 years of waiting, the pope has finally annuled, the comte de Paris's first wedding to princess marie thérèse de Wurtemberg; I have seen the official documents which are quite impressive and it states that allthough the wedding is annuled, the children are legitimate, and it also gives the comte de Paris the right to remarry.
The wedding will be followed by a diner à the château d'Arcangues in Biarritz.

Marengo 09-26-2009 10:25 AM

Some info from our blog:

Wedding Details Of the Marriage of the Count and Countess of Paris

A day before the religious wedding of the count and countess of Paris, French royalty blog ‘noblesse & royauté’ reveals some details about the wedding. It was already known that the wedding would be celebrated Arcangues, but the blog has some new information.

The mass will be celebrated by father Dominique Dye, chapelain of the order of Malta, and by abbé Jean-Marie Mouhica. During the mass music from Bach will be heard, but also Bask hymns. The bride will wear a creation by Catherine Vanier, the dress will have several colours. After the mass the wedding party will go to the castle of Arcangues, where a dinner will be served.

The count of Paris is the Orleanist pretender to the French throne. He married in 1957 Duchess Marie-Thérèse of Württemberg. The couple divorced in 1984, and in October of the same year he married Micaëla Anna María Cousiño y Quiñones de León in a civil ceremony. The Catholic church recently annuled the wedding between Henri and Marie-Thérèse, after which the count of Paris was able to announce his religious wedding.

For a link to Noblesse & Royauté, click here.

Ella Kay 09-26-2009 02:59 PM

First gallery of pictures is up at BelgaPicture. A very unconvential wedding dress (for a very unconventional royal wedding, really!).

ETA: I'm also blogging about the wedding here at Royal Romance.

iceflower 09-26-2009 03:46 PM

The dress is indeed unconvential, but a white one would
have been a surprise as well ;)

Yesterday there was a pre-wedding dinner held at the
"Villa Albarritz" in Bidard (near Biarritz), France, Sept.
25, 2009:

The Comte and the Princess

Prince Charles-Philippe and Princess Diana of Orleans

...with Princess Beatrice of Orleans

The Duke and the Duchess of Uzes

Al_bina 09-26-2009 03:54 PM

Countess of Paris' dress leaves much to be desired. Hopefully the couple finally found peace of mind they were searching for.
Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans, Duc d'Anjou, wore a military uniform, didn't he? What about Duke and Duchess of Vendome? Did they attend the ceremony?

Ella Kay 09-26-2009 04:07 PM

I don't think the Vendomes were expected to attend.

Al_bina 09-26-2009 04:16 PM

Thanks for the information!
It is not surprising, but strange. I thought Duke of Vendome would attend for the sake of appearances.

maria-olivia 09-26-2009 04:55 PM

No appearances to-day !
No Count of Paris's children nor his brothers and sisters assisted the wedding.
Only Charles-Philippe his wife and his mother because the Count of Paris gave him the title of Duc d' Anjou and Great Master of the St Lazare's Oder ( the white to small uniform he is wearing).

V.F.H.78 09-26-2009 04:58 PM

Was the duke of Chartres present at the wedding?

MAfan 09-26-2009 05:16 PM

Isn't he dressed in the very same way he was dressed at the religious wedding of his son Jean last may???

rominet09 09-26-2009 07:25 PM

I can't believe so little family people attended !
I suppose it is due to loyalty towards the Duchess of Montpensier !

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Princess Alix 09-27-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchainho (Post 996697)

Who is the woman with the grey dress, grey bag and the black shoes?

Stefan 09-27-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Alix (Post 996713)
Who is the woman with the grey dress, grey bag and the black shoes?

Princess Lea of Belgium.

Lumutqueen 09-27-2009 10:03 AM

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It looks like a wonderful wedding. It's nice to see Princess Lea. :flowers:
Why was there such a lack of attendance?

MAfan 09-27-2009 10:13 AM

Despite of her age, Princess Lea still looks very well...and Princess Diana looks wonderful too...
I've been surprised too for the lack of attendence...but it seems to me that this is a sort of familiar vice...the past year, at the wedding of Prince Aimone of Savoy, son of Princess Claude of Orleans, and Princess Olga of Greece, whose father is a first cousin of the Orleans, nobody of the Orleans Family attended the wedding (except the mother of the groom)...

sgl 09-27-2009 11:11 AM

The location looks very beautiful. I agree with the other posters about the bride's dress. It is definitely not what I would have expected. I was thinking that she would wear a simple suit in a soft color. The dress is okay, but I really don't care for the purple net veil over her face.

The bride and groom look very happy, though, and I hope that they enjoyed the celebrations.

claypoint2 09-27-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Alix (Post 996713)
Who is the woman with the grey dress, grey bag and the black shoes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 996718)
Princess Lea of Belgium.

At the risk of being a stickler for detail, her title is Princess Alexandre of Belgium, and she does not have the right to use the title Princess Léa of Belgium. According to the "arrêté Royal" or Royal Decree of 2 December 1991, a woman who marries a Belgian prince is no longer a Belgian princess in her own right -- the way it had been from 1831 until 1991 -- unless there is an additional royal decree creating her a Belgian princess.

Royal Titles in Belgium - Titres Royaux en Belgique

There was no additional decree in this case. Princess Alexandre of Belgium, n
ée Léa Wolman, was twice divorced before she married the prince. Prince Alexandre didn't seek the consent of the sovereign before marrying her, as he apparently feared the disapproval of his half-brother King Baudoin, who was a strict & fervent Catholic, and also of his mother. As you will see below, it is reported that Prince Alexandre hid the fact of his marriage for a few years.

Princess Léa of Belgium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All that aside, Princess Alexandre is certainly a very elegant and beautiful woman. I hope that their marriage is a happy one... just like the Comte de Paris and his wife, who are clearly devoted to each other!

maria-olivia 09-27-2009 04:46 PM

An article of Stephane Bern in le Figaro says that the Count de Paris's children and particulary Jean Duc de vendôme asked the whole family not to come at his father wedding.
Claypoint , Princess Léa is our Princess Pushy..She is everywhere except when members of the High Court (Queen Astrid's heirs) are present .

claypoint2 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

:previous:

Ah... I didn't know that, Maria-Olivia! Thank you for the information. It's funny -- I almost referenced Princess Michael of Kent when I was discussing Princess Alexandre's title. It seems that these two ladies have a few things in common!

Al_bina 09-27-2009 06:59 PM

:previous:
I am very surprised to learn that Duke of Vendome asked the family members not to attend his father's wedding. He appeared to be on a speaking terms with Count of Paris. Well ... my assumption may be incorrect. At the same, it would be fair to presume that absence of certain family members did not surprise Count of Paris much. His actions badly hurt them.

rominet09 09-27-2009 07:32 PM

It must lead to wonder what will happen at the future child's baptism..... I suppose the Count of Paris won't be invited

claypoint2 09-27-2009 08:01 PM

:previous:

Oh, I woudn't be so sure.... After all, the Comte de Paris and his second wife were present at the Duc de Vendôme's civil and religious weddings. Also, the Comte de Paris is the head of the Orléans house, and this child -- especially if male -- will be important to the dynasty. It's possible that the grandfather will be present for the grandchild's baptism, although of course we'll have to see!

rominet09 09-27-2009 11:24 PM

You are right, the baptism will be an important event but it must have been really unpleasant for the Count of Paris to be snubbed by the whole family !

MAfan 09-28-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al_bina (Post 996942)
:previous:
I am very surprised to learn that Duke of Vendome asked the family members not to attend his father's wedding. He appeared to be on a speaking terms with Count of Paris. Well ... my assumption may be incorrect. At the same, it would be fair to presume that almost absence of certain family members did not surprise Count of Paris much. His actions badly hurt them.

Which actions exactly? If I remember correctly, he re-admitted some of them in the Line of Succession, denying some actions of their father...

rominet09 09-28-2009 07:37 AM

Well he walked out of his family of five children, with two heavily handicapped children among them... leaving them in very accurate money problems etc
Of course I am only writing what I read, but it is generally accepted as true
Sorry for my English
The Duchess of Montpensier is reportedly very very ill.... and the divorce hurt her badly as a woman and as a Chritian one.

maria-olivia 09-28-2009 08:24 AM

The announcement of the Count of Paris religious wedding was done before the day of the Duke of Vendome's wedding. So he accepted to come with his wife n°2.
What is sad is that the son and the father's religious wedding happened the same year.
According to the article of Stephane Bern in the newspaper Figaro (I should like to have confirmation from Vincent, who started the thread and who knows more about the Orléans that Mr Bern) 3 members of the family did not take in account the Duke of Vendome's will.
The christening of his first child is for 2010 , so it is to early to speak about that.
I wonder if Madame la Duchesse de Montpensier recovered from her illness.

Al_bina 09-28-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAfan (Post 997022)
Which actions exactly? If I remember correctly, he re-admitted some of them in the Line of Succession, denying some actions of their father...

I meant that Count's of Paris divorce followed by the annulment. Unfortunately his current happiness caused unhappiness for his children.

MAfan 09-28-2009 10:19 AM

So again we have the troubles between the father and his children...the same that happened to the late Count of Paris and his children, althoug the problems were different.

principessa 09-28-2009 12:20 PM

Royal Press Europe has a gallery about the wedding:

Royal Press Europe - Royal Photoagency - © Albert Nieboer & Albert Philip van der Werf

rominet09 09-28-2009 09:02 PM

Maria-Olivia, about the Duchess of Montpensier illness, from what we know it is a very very serious illness. And she isn't very young....
The fact that she was operated on in urgency the very day before her son's wedding speaks volumes.....

claypoint2 09-28-2009 11:33 PM

Rominet, I was wrong.... After reading the article by Stéphane Bern in Le Figaro, I would agree that it seems unlikely that the Count of Paris will be invited to the baptism. According to the article, the Duke of Vendôme sent a message to the entire family requesting that they not attend his father's religious wedding to Micaela Cousiño Quiñones de León. The Duke denounced the marriage, saying that it "ridicules our family and even the Church... It seals the definitive rupture with my father."

Le Figaro - France : Stéphane Bern raconte le mariage du comte de Paris

I confess that I am surprised. As Maria-Olivia points out, the religious marriage of the Count of Paris and his second wife was announced before the Duke of Vendôme's own wedding this past May, and the Count of Paris attended his son's wedding accompanied by his second wife.... The only thing that I can imagine is that the Duke's mother, the Duchess of Montpensier, is very ill, and that the son wants to show solidarity with his mother at such a moment. I heard rumors that she has cancer, but I haven't seen any reliable confirmation. Whatever ails her, I am left to wonder if the Duchess's health has now taken an unfortunate turn for the worse. :sad:

rominet09 09-29-2009 12:38 AM

Thanks, claypoint2 I didn't know....

Al_bina 09-29-2009 01:22 PM

:previous:
It is sad to know that the rift between Count of Paris and Duke of Vendome is deep. However, it would be fair to presume that such development of the events is to be expected.

Odette 09-29-2009 01:31 PM

Some guests have shone by their absence and the recent news that the Duc de Vendome asked them to stay away, is another blow to this family's harmony.
On one hand I can see a couple who has been legally married for so many years wanting to make it official in their Church, at this old age for both partners.
On the other hand I can see how this wedding seems like a very selfish act on their part.


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