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Shaiya 12-07-2008 02:32 AM

Actually, ladies usually kept their hair, unless they were very high status and had expensive head gear (such as Nefertiti's crown) or large intricate wigs that required head shaving.

Also guys often kept their head hair too, though it was kept very short and leaving the ears exposed until it thinned and began to bald at which point they would shave it.

chaz 12-07-2008 05:35 AM

Intermediate Periods
 
During the Intermediate Periods (3) those rules may have been abandoned. The first two intermediate periods were when Egypt was ruled by Semitic peoples,they were heavily endowed with natural beards, which held great significance for them.

Russophile 12-07-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaiya (Post 864051)
Actually, ladies usually kept their hair, unless they were very high status and had expensive head gear (such as Nefertiti's crown) or large intricate wigs that required head shaving.

Also guys often kept their head hair too, though it was kept very short and leaving the ears exposed until it thinned and began to bald at which point they would shave it.

Here's a funny little site on this:
Get Waxing

Shaiya 12-07-2008 11:25 PM

^That's kinda creepy. I'm thinking like shiny barbie dolls with lots of crazy eyeliner but no hair.

I think they usually kept their hair, unless it bothered them a lot, in which case they would shave it and replace it with wigs. There are benefits to being bald in the desert. Ancient Egyptian Hairstyles

Anyway, the Ptolemies were seriously wack. Maybe it was cuz of the inbreeding, but they just kept killing their brothers/husbands, sisters/wives, mothers, fathers, half-siblings and anyone else that they didn't like for some particular reason.

Russophile 12-08-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaiya (Post 864488)

Anyway, the Ptolemies were seriously wack. Maybe it was cuz of the inbreeding, but they just kept killing their brothers/husbands, sisters/wives, mothers, fathers, half-siblings and anyone else that they didn't like for some particular reason.

Power. It was all about power and who ruled. Very similar to their Roman cousins --Messalina and Agrippina the Younger spring to mind--. And don't forget how the Borgia's wheeled and dealed.
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

chaz 12-09-2008 07:32 AM

Death and Classical Pagans
 
Don't forget, that attitudes about death were very different in Hellenistic and Classical civilizations, from our modern attitudes .:whistling:

chaz 12-10-2008 09:37 AM

Perfumed Resin
 
You see in many pictorial representations of Egyptian dancing girls, that they would wear conical blocks of perfumed resin atop their heads. During performance in the Egyptian heat,these blocks would melt giving off pleasant odors and a sheen to the skin and hair.

chaz 12-10-2008 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Russophile (Post 864034)
Not only was it "unclean" but it SMELLED!! So they shaved and waxed. Very modern thinking if you as me! :biggrin:

Not to mention vermin infestation.

Menarue 12-10-2008 09:43 AM

Doesnīt sound like much fun to me.... Probably the elusive Patchouli that everyone has heard about but not many people get to know exactly what it is.

chaz 12-11-2008 05:18 AM

No!no!no!
 
The glistening perfumed resin on their lovely dark skins,scent may have been sandalwood perfume (most dancing girls in Egypt were Nubian). Patchouli comes from India.

Russophile 12-12-2008 01:36 PM

Speaking of Nubia, isn't that where the pyramids first came from?

Menarue 12-12-2008 04:15 PM

Oh the perfume palace of Cairo, you donīt want perfume but before you know where you are or what time it is, you are in the middle of it being squirted with all kinds of strange smells with men behind every curtain (it seems) to stop you leaving without buying some. I remember all of them managed to say "Patchouli" as they proferred these amazingly shaped bottles at us. I went with a party of people but they managed to separate us and when we managed to get out we were all clutching an identical little bottle supposedly full to the brim with patchouli.....and now I hear that it is Indian!!! You mean to say our little whiff of the real Cairo was Indian?? What a let down.

chaz 12-12-2008 04:15 PM

Ku****e Rulers of Egypt
 
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Originally Posted by Russophile (Post 866396)
Speaking of Nubia, isn't that where the pyramids first came from?

Called Kush, there were pyramids on a much smaller scale during the Kush.ite Merotic Dynasty. The Kush and Nubians, we call Sudanese and Somali today. Actually the Kush.ite kingdom patterened itself very closely on Egyptian art, culture and religion. During theXXV Egyptian Dynasty, the Egyptians invited the kings of Kush to come and rule them. The most famous of the Kush.ite Pharoahs was Taharqa the "builder." But even though the Nubian Kush stretches back in time to remote ages the Pyramids in Nubian Kush are much younger than the Old Kingdom pyramids in Egypt :graduate:.

The placement of the period,in the center of the word Kush.ite was done in order to override the automatic censor.

Russophile 12-12-2008 07:13 PM

I thought they were older. There was some documentary I can't remember that went up the blue nile and they had found a pyramid that was older. Small one, though. I'll have to find that.
So Chaz, the Scholar, what happened that the Sudenese have fallen into genocide? They seemed to be a proud empire once upon a time. It is certainly a gorgeous area in which to live.

chaz 12-12-2008 07:34 PM

I cannot gainsay what you say about an older Nubian Pyramid, I missed the program you referred to.

Warren 12-13-2008 04:10 AM

Here is an interesting link - with photos! - that can shed some light on the subject:

Ancient Nubian Pyramids
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chaz 12-13-2008 05:52 AM

Kings of Kush
 
There are 2 versions of how the Kings of Kush came to rule Egypt one by conquest then peacefully and by invitation,I chose the latter.





Nice pics Warren!

Lenora 07-09-2011 01:10 PM

As I 've read Cleopatra had a daughter who survived,the lineage was following:
Cleopatra VII,the Queen of Egypt
Cleopatra Selena,Queen of Mauritania(her daughter)
Ptolemy of Mauritania
Drusilla of Mauritania
The other details and genealogy seem to have lost in history and legend
But Zenobya of Palmira claimed to be her descendant,are there any links that could provide the list of their supposed descendants?

norenxaq 07-10-2011 01:03 PM

Settipani's work on early Mediaeval families from Roman ancestors has this. Note: it is HIGHLY speculative.

however, a version of it might be online, if one looked

Kasumi 07-13-2011 02:00 AM

Big Cleopatra exhibit to rule at Milwaukee Public Museum - JSOnline
The traveling exhibit will feature 150 artifacts associated with the famed Cleopatra VII, the queen who lived from 69 B.C. to 30 B.C. and earned a permanent place in history by becoming the lover of two Roman leaders: Julius Caesar and Mark Antony.

Milwaukee Public Museum to Host Cleopatra Exhibit - ABC News


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