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Josefine 03-01-2003 05:00 PM

Princess Desiree and Family, Current Events Part 1: March 2003 -
 
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Princess Désirée Elisabeth Sibylla
born June 2. 1938
married: June 5. 1964 with Baron Niclas Silfverschiöld
(has the title Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld)

their son: Carl Otto Edmund, born March 22.. 1965
their daughter: Christina Louise , born September 29. 1966
their daughter: Hélène Ingeborg, born September 20. 1968

picture from www.corbis.com

Sweden's Baby Princess.
Sweden's Princess Sibylla shows her baby daughter Princess Desiree in a bassinet for the first official portrait of the baby.

Royalty Attending the Amaranther Ball
Original caption: Royal Ribbons 'N' Beaux. Stockholm ,Sweden: Wearing their royal ribbons, Swedish Princesses Margaretha (second from left) and Desiree (second from right) are flanked by their beaux Mr. John Ambler (left) and Baron Niclas Silfverschiold (right). The regal foursome attended the traditional Swedish Amaranther Ball, which was held in Stockholm.

picture from www.corbis.com

Princess Desiree With Bouquet
Original caption: Great-Grand Daughters of King Gustaf of Sweden Attendd Flag Day Parade in Stockholm. Stockholm, Sweden: The little Swedish princesses, the youngest generation of the Swedish Royal Family, took part in a ceremonial function. They are the great-grand daughters of King Gustaf and the parade they attended at the traditional Flag Day ceremony at the Stockholm Stadium, in which various Swedish youth groups were represented. Princess Desiree, King Gustaf's great-grand daughter at the Flag Day ceremony at Stockholm Stadium. June 14, 1945.

picture from www.corbis.com

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Josefine 09-10-2003 06:24 PM

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Prinsessan Desirée med barnen Carl , Hélène och Tina 1970-tal

Prinsessan Desirée och Niclas Silfverschiöld 1995

Prinsessan Desirée, 1970-tal

GrandDuchess 07-07-2004 03:28 PM

New niece or nephew for The King - Princess Désirée to become grandmother again!

The King's sister Princess Désirée & her husband Baron Silfvershiöld's daughter Tina is expecting her third child with her husband Hans de Geer.

Tina, 38, and Hans, 41, married in 1999 and currently have two children: Estelle (born 2000) and Ian (born 2002).

The new baby is due in September, just in time for the couple's 5th wedding anniversary. So Princess Désirée will once again become grandmother!

Tina told Svensk Damtidning:

- I’m feeling very well and we are so happy about what is awaiting!

- The siblings think that this is going to be fun. Big sister Estelle is convinced it will be a little sister, but if she is right, it will be a surprise.

GrandDuchess 09-29-2004 12:57 PM

Baroness Tina de Geer af Finspång, daughter of Princess Désirée Baroness Silfverschiöld, gave birth to her third child (a baby boy!) on 16 September. Congratulations to her and her husband - and to grandmother Désirée!

GrandDuchess 02-16-2005 09:46 AM

A few days ago, Svenska Dagbladet had an annoucement of a Carl Silfverschiöld listed - and now I have gotten it confirmed through Svensk Damtidning:

Princess Désirée Baroness Silfverschiöld and Baron Niklas Silfverschiöld's oldest child Baron Carl has become engaged to a Maria Fredriksson. Princess Désirée told Svensk Damtidning that the family is delighted, and that they like her very much. Apparently this Maria Fredriksson is already a mother of two and comes from Stockholm. No wedding date has been set, but the magazine is saying around the summer probably will be the case. Baron Carl will one day fully take over the estate of Koberg Castle after his father.

Lena 02-16-2005 09:50 AM

Great news! So we get to see pics of the SRF at the wedding next summer.

"already a mother of two"...I bet Carl is more than happy, that his mother isn´t Queen of Sweden... ;)

mixer2002de 02-16-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lena
"already a mother of two"...I bet Carl is more than happy, that his mother isn´t Queen of Sweden... ;)

What do you mean by that? Mette Marit also was mother of a son! So whats the problem? What has that to do with his mother not beeing the Queen of Sweden? If the Norwegians can handle something like that why shouldn't the Swedes be unable to do so?
I think it would be ok if the Crown princess Victoria would marry a man who brings up a child alone so far, too.

Lena 02-17-2005 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mixer2002de
What do you mean by that? Mette Marit also was mother of a son! So whats the problem? What has that to do with his mother not beeing the Queen of Sweden? If the Norwegians can handle something like that why shouldn't the Swedes be unable to do so?
I think it would be ok if the Crown princess Victoria would marry a man who brings up a child alone so far, too.

We are both no monarchists. But in the opposite to you I try a bit to understand the point of view of (most) monarchists. I also have no problem with MM´s past. I like MM (for many things...most of all for her big heart) and I think her little son is a cute and well-educated boy.
But fact is also, that many ppl still turn up their noses at Mette Marit (mostly because of the drug-story, but also because of the illegitimate child). I would say ppl also measure Royals and non-Royals with double standards. While in Scandinavia a lot of children are born out of wedlock, many ppl want their Royals to live their lives the traditional way (engagement-> wedding with first real kiss-> children). Of course you can also win the hearts as "Mette Marit" and I think she has won already a lot, but you have to be a very strong personality. And not everyone is able to fight against windmills.
In other words, when you want to become welcomed like a Mary Donaldson, then a child out of wedlock is (IMO) a "disadvantage".

mixer2002de 02-17-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lena
We are both no monarchists. I would say ppl also measure Royals and non-Royals with double standards. While in Scandinavia a lot of children are born out of wedlock, many ppl want their Royals to live their lives the traditional way (engagement-> wedding with first real kiss-> children).
In other words, when you want to become welcomed like a Mary Donaldson, then a child out of wedlock is (IMO) a "disadvantage".

Well then there is just one conclusion for me: Most Scandinavian monarchists are stupid. Double standards are unfair. If they expect others to live a "traditional" life they should do so too. I agree that it would be not ok if a royal would marry a criminal or a former in mate of jail. But thats something completley different and not the topic. As you said its common to have children without beeing married in Scandinavia. I agree on that it would be better that a child would be raised by the parents together. But if one parent marries someone else then the biological father/mother i think it would be more than nonsense to hand away a child because of that. If that would happen this would be a real reson to be upset! :(

susan alicia 02-17-2005 10:11 AM

Lena,

I agree with some of what you say but

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Originally Posted by Lena
But in the opposite to you I try a bit to understand the point of view of (most) monarchists.

I do not think you have a way of knowing that your effort to understand the point of view of others is greater than his,
he would not be on this website if he was not interested in the views of others, monarchists and others. (of course the pictures are fun too)

many ppl want their Royals to live their lives the traditional way (engagement-> wedding with first real kiss-> children).

I have no way of knowing this but I think that the only royals who do not kiss ("first real kiss") before their wedding are the Belgian Royals.
I imagine that all other european royals jump into bed together before marriage.

Lena 02-17-2005 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by susan alicia
Lena,

I agree with some of what you say but



I have no way of knowing this but I think that the only royals who do not kiss ("first real kiss") before their wedding are the Belgian Royals.
I imagine that all other european royals jump into bed together before marriage.

Well, I´m not so naive to believe the "virgin-lie" ;) But we also don´t have evidences. I would compare it to Royals saying, that they love their jobs so much, and that they love it, because they meet so many nice and interesting ppl. We can imagine that this isn´t always true, but we want believe and we don´t think much about how it really is, or do we?

Why do you know that with the belgian Royals?

susan alicia 02-17-2005 10:36 AM

Lena,

you do not read carefully,

I started the sentence with "I have no way of knowing this etc.......


(this has nothing to do with desiree, liked the book of a.selinko by the way)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lena
Well, I´m not so naive to believe the "virgin-lie" ;) But we also don´t have evidences. I would compare it to Royals saying, that they love their jobs so much, and that they love it, because they meet so many nice and interesting ppl. We can imagine that this isn´t always true, but we want believe and we don´t think much about how it really is, or do we?

Why do you know that with the belgian Royals?


Lena 02-17-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by susan alicia
Lena,

you do not read carefully,

I started the sentence with "I have no way of knowing this etc.......


(this has nothing to do with desiree, liked the book of a.selinko by the way)

Yes, true...haven´t read the first part, sorry :o Then I change the question: why do you believe the belgian Royals are different?

susan alicia 02-17-2005 10:42 AM

female intuition

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Originally Posted by Lena
Yes, true...haven´t read the first part, sorry :o Then I change the question: why do you believe the belgian Royals are different?


HMQueenElizabethII 06-01-2005 02:50 AM

Tomorrow 2/6 is the Princess's birthday.Happy birthday to her with all the best wishes.

mandyy 01-06-2006 01:08 AM

Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko of Japan hosted Princess Desiree and her husband for dinner at the Imperial Residence in Tokyo on Dec. 12, 2005.
Photo from Kunaicho website

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...63&d1136375554

GrandDuchess 01-06-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mandyy
Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko of Japan hosted Princess Desiree and her husband for dinner at the Imperial Residence in Tokyo on Dec. 12, 2005.
Photo from Kunaicho website

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...63&d1136375554

How lovely, thank you mandyy for posting! I wonder what the occasion was, if any, and why they were in Japan... Perhaps a special holiday or something...

Royalsa 07-12-2006 02:48 PM

Princess Désirée will be grandmother again!

According this week´s magazine Svensk Damtidning Baroness Maria Silfverschiöld, wife of Princess Désiree´s son Baron Carl Silfverschiöld, is in the fourth month. She have herself told a journalist of the magazine. Maria Silfverschiöld is 41 years old and have already two sons from a previous relationship.

Sourche: The Scandinavian Royals Message Board

sjetajiem 12-20-2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Royalsa
Princess Désirée will be grandmother again!

According this week´s magazine Svensk Damtidning Baroness Maria Silfverschiöld, wife of Princess Désiree´s son Baron Carl Silfverschiöld, is in the fourth month. She have herself told a journalist of the magazine. Maria Silfverschiöld is 41 years old and have already two sons from a previous relationship.

Sourche: The Scandinavian Royals Message Board

Baroness Maria Silfverschioeld gave birth to a healthy baby girl on December 13th 2006.
The names will be announced at the christening in a few months.
The baby is the second granddaughter and the fourth grandchild of Princess Desiree and baron Niclas Silfverschioeld.
Two grandsons Ian and Fred and one granddaughter Estelle are the children of Desiree and Niclas's daughter Baroness Christina de Geer and her husband Baron Hans de Geer.

Maria's sons are Lars and Peder.

Source: Marlene on Royals-Portal

Next Star 12-21-2006 09:22 PM

Congratulations to the happy couple and the rest of the family now they have a new little member in their family.


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