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kimebear 08-15-2008 02:52 PM

Prince William and Kate Middleton Current Events 6: August-November 2008
 
Welcome to the Prince William and Kate Middleton current events thread part 6. Part 5 can be found here: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...8-a-17204.html

Isana 08-15-2008 04:03 PM

The Daily Mail "updated" its article not that it includes any relevant information now but it has some more snarky remarks...

That's not very dignified for a future Royal Miss Middleton | Mail Online

Duke of Marmalade 08-15-2008 04:09 PM

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by Villemann Don't worry about the monarchy of the 21st century. There won't be one - anywhere - unless the next generation of young royals understand that in our day and time it is no longer enough to show up and look good. Sometimes one gets the impression that some of these young royals actually don't care about the institutions they represent.
I guess that's the sad truth Villemann - couldn't agree more. The British monarchy is one of the strongest around but the higher you are up there (current monarch couple - flawless icons) the deeper the fall (via Charles down to William - he will be another "King against his will" like some others of the younger royal generation).

kimebear 08-15-2008 04:22 PM

William doesn't have to be a king against his will. He doesn't have to be king at all. There is nothing to stop him from stepping aside if he doesn't like the future forecast. There are some that feel the younger generation of royalty should be more modern and more in tune with their subjects, then in the next breath, accuse them of not acting very royally. We can't have it both ways, folks. They can't act royal and common at the same time, it just doesn't work. There was a time, not so very long ago when William and Kate were accused of being too stuffy and boring. Now they are accused of being too wild and boozy. Can't please everyone, it seems.

Isana 08-15-2008 04:36 PM

Very true, kimebear, especially since this was actually William's first club visit this year. The other "parties" they attended were charity balls. And Kate has been out a handful of times within the last 8 months - hardly too much partying, IMO. I think the "problem" if there is one, is not that they party too much (they don't) but that there's not much information in the public realm when it comes to their "work" or better his preparation to become King. We don't get pics of William working with the military very often or see what he does as his "job" neither do we know what Kate does during her days. The only information we get is when they are on their sparetime vacationing or partying because that's the info the press can get its hands on... hence the impression one gets is that they do nothing but party because it's either no info or party pics...

Menarue 08-15-2008 04:38 PM

I am shocked. Not by Kate´s entrance into the car, in fact it wasn´t that undignified at all, what an exaggeration. No, what shocked me is that beautiful Prince William is going to be bald and very soon.... what a shame.

kimebear 08-15-2008 04:44 PM

Poor guy. He started losing his hair some time ago. Its rough when that happens to such a young man.

Menarue 08-15-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kimebear (Post 811951)
Poor guy. He started losing his hair some time ago. Its rough when that happens to such a young man.

Shall we write and suggest implants Kime? No, perhaps we had better not, he might not appreciate it.... :whistling:

kimebear 08-15-2008 05:17 PM

I wouldn't blame him. Still, he is a good looking enough even with the thinning hair.

Ella Kay 08-15-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Villemann
Well, with sites like The Kate & Wills Update, I guess there is an never ending demand for pictures of the two lovebirds!
Yeah, I don't think my little blog, which is as much about the media coverage of the two of them as it is about William and Kate, is really driving up the need for paparazzi photos.

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I am shocked. Not by Kate´s entrance into the car, in fact it wasn´t that undignified at all, what an exaggeration. No, what shocked me is that beautiful Prince William is going to be bald and very soon.... what a shame.
You and me both, Menarue! The teenage girl inside of me that had such a crush on Prince William is totally disappointed by his hair's abdication. :biggrin:

ghost_night554 08-16-2008 01:40 AM

Speaking of which does baldness stop at a certain point or does everyone who have it completely lose their hair..sorry if that sounds dumb but I know nothing about it.

Elspeth 08-16-2008 01:46 AM

It depends what sort of baldness, but most bald people have some hair. Prince Charles and the Duke of Kent are both bald but have hair.

Menarue 08-16-2008 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth (Post 812074)
It depends what sort of baldness, but most bald people have some hair. Prince Charles and the Duke of Kent are both bald but have hair.

Not bald - just an extremely high hairline. :biggrin::whistling::biggrin:

Ella Kay 08-16-2008 10:42 AM

Well, if male pattern baldness is supposed to be inherited from the mother's family, Diana's father had a sort of receding hairline with an exaggerated widow's peak, I think.

Mermaid1962 08-16-2008 06:00 PM

Yeah...right in the middle of the top of his head.:biggrin: I dont' care; I think that William's gorgeous anyway.:smile:

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Originally Posted by Menarue (Post 812080)
Not bald - just an extremely high hairline. :biggrin::whistling::biggrin:


sophie 08-17-2008 11:28 AM

It looks like William will be going bald in the front also. I was hopeing it would be just like Charles just in the back because when me go bald in the front they look much older just like Edward.

atina 08-17-2008 11:41 AM

If it doesn't bother William too much, why should it bother anybody else. How attractive a man is has very little to do with the number of hairs on his head in my opinion.Selfconfidence is more sexy than hair.
I must admit that the men surronding me, at work and in private, are not perfect any of them. Some are bald, some have hair all over their bodies, some have big ears ,some have a little "beer belly", some a slightly bigger one, and some even have "man boobs" ;) Nevertheless, I find a couple of them rather attractive and therefore I don't see that William has lost so much of his looks either. He is a fine man,he is :)

magnik 08-17-2008 11:51 AM

Question about this topic: if he loose his hair then he will be the first bald king?

Btw. there was once discussion about his bald.


Are there any new engagements for him in near future?

caroline mathilda 08-18-2008 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Menarue (Post 811949)
I am shocked. Not by Kate´s entrance into the car, in fact it wasn´t that undignified at all, what an exaggeration. No, what shocked me is that beautiful Prince William is going to be bald and very soon.... what a shame.

I was shocked at the photo of them in the car with no seat belts fastened ( the final one in the series from the Daily Mail entitled "Tight Squeeze. ") Surely William of all people has learned the necessity of seat belt use.

Luv2Cruise 08-18-2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by magnik (Post 812576)
Are there any new engagements for him in near future?

I just went to the official site to look at the calendar, and I didn't see any upcoming official visits for him; I also didn't see any events for the Queen and Prince Philip until 9 November 2008. That's odd. Aren't they usually back from Balmoral no later than mid-September??? I guess their schedules have not yet been completely entered into the calendar.

I'm secretly hoping that some major announcement is due this fall, but I highly doubt it.:biggrin:

muriel 08-18-2008 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by caroline mathilda (Post 812917)
I was shocked at the photo of them in the car with no seat belts fastened ( the final one in the series from the Daily Mail entitled "Tight Squeeze. ") Surely William of all people has learned the necessity of seat belt use.

The car does not appear to be moving, they merely seem to be getting into the car - so I guess it is prior to seatbelt time

Nad25 08-18-2008 08:36 AM

God bless our british press..they are a drama queen!!!:rolleyes:..poor william is just trying to get into the car but i guess our press wouldnt be so great if they didnt make a big deal out of everything!!!;):rolleyes:

caroline mathilda 08-18-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by muriel (Post 812923)
The car does not appear to be moving, they merely seem to be getting into the car - so I guess it is prior to seatbelt time

I hope you are right but most people buckle up as soon as they are seated, prior to moving.

Luv2Cruise, I too would LOVE a major Fall announcement.:whistling::lol:

hilal 08-21-2008 04:52 AM

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Menarue 08-21-2008 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 812349)
Yeah...right in the middle of the top of his head.:biggrin: I dont' care; I think that William's gorgeous anyway.:smile:

Perhaps we could call it a very wide parting. :angel:
I don´t think he´s gorgeous but he should wear his navy uniform more often. :biggrin:

Warren 08-21-2008 12:38 PM

I've moved the ongoing discussion of Kate Middleton and the paparazzi to the Harry, Wills & girlfriends and the press thread.

Duke of Marmalade 08-24-2008 07:13 AM

The old "Kate get a job" story is back - various sources claim that HM is worried about Kate's workshy image and wants her to do something about it:

https://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-12377,00.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1048599/And-DO-Queen-wants-Kate-Middleton-charity-job-counter-claims-workshy.html

"Waity Katies" image is clearly not what royal watchers have in mind for William's future bride - many people think she's lazy etc and unless she does something to prove otherwise the stigma will stick.

putski 08-24-2008 07:30 AM

It's Katie Nicholl and her lack of legitimate royal scoop that's fueling these stories. So instead she tends to latch on her old jobless stories (can't even remember Party Pieces correctly), her partying stories (has Kate been seen out that many times... really?), her shopping stories (when was the last time she was snapped shopping?), her Clarence House gym story (eh.. Kate has spent more time in Berkshire recently) and her free clothes story (never been proven). I don't think the inner circle of the RF are in fact against Kate. Otherwise she would have done something a long time ago. The sad part is the media's influence on the people. Hopefully they learn to filter what they read.

As for Katie Nicholl, I think her royal sources have dried up as shown in her many false predictions as of late, so she has to resort to juicy nonsense to sell papers.

Incas 08-24-2008 09:14 AM

I'm starting to think Ms Katie Nicholl wishes she is the Kate in Williams life. I have never seen this many rehashed innuendos given as facts since the months following Diana's death. She is totally talking out of both sides of her mouth. On one hand, Kate Middleton is portrayed as irresponsible and free loading, then the last few sentences make it look like Clarence House is responsible for her turning down work. So which side is true? Ms Nicholl failed to investigate who at CH dared to defy the Queen and gave Ms Middleton bad advise.;)

Isana 08-24-2008 11:24 AM

I found that contradiction as well. So the Queen wants Kate to work but CH tells her not to? :rolleyes: Also if Kate is going to get engaged around Christmas like the article claims why should she start a job now? Isn't it a little too late for that? Who'd employ her for merely 4 or 5 moonths and what would that change?

Luv2Cruise 08-24-2008 11:31 AM

I ignore all of the trash that is written about Kate and her employment status. It's vicious gossip most likely floated by a combination of sources: (1) vicious courtiers; (2) duplicitous personal acquaintances who have axes to grind; and (3) psychotic Kate Hate posters from the Kate hater web chat forums who get some sort of sick thrill of relevance by emailing hacked Facebook pictures to lazy tabloid HACKS desperate to fill columns and meet deadlines.

I dismiss all of it as nonsense. I believe Kate and William do as well, which is why we continue to see photographs of them enjoying themselves, either on vacation or for a night out. Neither of them has anything to apologize for.:smile:

Amelia 08-24-2008 11:36 AM

Article about a charity roller disco Kate is helping organise: https://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/article17027.ece

Event site: https://rollerdisco.org/

Ella Kay 08-24-2008 11:38 AM

Nicholl can't even remember "Party Pieces"? Good grief.

I'm with you, Luv2Cruise. We've heard William and Harry being dismissive of the tabloids in interviews. I'm pretty sure by this point they've learned not to bother with it too much.

kimebear 08-24-2008 11:53 AM

The funny part about this is the reaction of the DM readers who think Kate is just some throne sitter wannabe who would do anything to bag a prince. Well, if she would do anything, wouldn't she have 3 or 4 jobs at once if the Queen unequivocally stated that she needed to get a job to get the ring? What nonsense.

Luv2Cruise 08-24-2008 11:57 AM

Absolutely Kimebear and Ella Kay.:flowers:

Ella Kay 08-24-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amelia (Post 815293)
Article about a charity roller disco Kate is helping organise: https://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/article17027.ece

Event site: https://rollerdisco.org/

Interesting that she's listed as Catherine Middleton on the charity website. Will the name controversies rise up again? ;) :biggrin:

Princess Robijn 08-25-2008 10:20 AM

I think that actually makes sence. On a website like that they would use her official name.

Josette

ghost_night554 08-28-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sophie (Post 812562)
It looks like William will be going bald in the front also. I was hopeing it would be just like Charles just in the back because when me go bald in the front they look much older just like Edward.

Sorry for the delay , I've been away for a bit. He's going bald in front too are you serious? I can deal with the look Charles has but not completely bald,I know I'm not William so I shouldn't care but I guess it bothers me cause to me he's still pretty young. Anyways back on topic sorry for changing the convo like that.

felicity8782 08-29-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Luv2Cruise (Post 815291)
I ignore all of the trash that is written about Kate and her employment status. It's vicious gossip most likely floated by a combination of sources: (1) vicious courtiers; (2) duplicitous personal acquaintances who have axes to grind; and (3) psychotic Kate Hate posters from the Kate hater web chat forums who get some sort of sick thrill of relevance by emailing hacked Facebook pictures to lazy tabloid HACKS desperate to fill columns and meet deadlines.

I dismiss all of it as nonsense. I believe Kate and William do as well, which is why we continue to see photographs of them enjoying themselves, either on vacation or for a night out. Neither of them has anything to apologize for.:smile:

I totally agree, it's non-news but it's fun to talk about. :whistling:

The thing is if she doesn't, indeed, have a job, so what?! She's not public property yet. Who knows in a couple of months she might turn around to William and say "sorry I've met this guy named Fabio, he's an Italian shipping magnate and I'm eloping with him this Thursady, we'll always have Paris, see ya" End of story.

Also there are a lot of lovely young things in London, rich daddy's, an expensive education, who are all shopping, clubbing, having a good time and looking for a rich husband and none of them have a nine-to-five. The only difference is the multi-millionaire Kate's dating is the heir to the throne. But she's not the only rich girl in London doing this. No one's complaining that Holly Branson or Ivanka Trump have gone to work for their Dads' so how can anyone complain about Kate working for her parents?

Besides I don't ever think the Queen would call up Kate and say "Alright Darlin' don't be lazy get a job." If there has been any mention of Kate getting a nine-to-five it would have been from pushy Courtiers gently suggesting that maybe Kate should consider finding a more productive way to spend her time.

As far as I can see Kate's done nothing that would suggest she's going to bring the monarchy to it's knees if William married her tomorrow. So hell, she should go for it. If you can't go clubbing when you're 20, when can you? :cool:

Jo of Palatine 08-29-2008 11:41 AM

Welcome Felicity.:flowers: I really liked your message - it's about time someone defended Catherine's meagre trials at having fun on being young, when we all got the feeling she has curbed her real self already because of who she's dating. Sometimes I wish she would snatch up a Fabio or another guy like the ones in a Mills&Boon and live happily ever after with him somewhere else where nobody would bother to comment on the way she spends her days but as it is, she seems to be loving William and for that sacrifice alone we should have as much understanding for her as you showed. :flowers:

felicity8782 08-29-2008 11:50 AM

Hello Jo, thanks for the welcome! Although I think I might just keep Fabio to myself ;)

tommy1716 08-30-2008 08:24 PM

Now this makes me laugh, i don't know what to make of it really.

Photos of the youngest Middleton that are sure to embarrass Kate! | Mail Online

kimebear 08-30-2008 08:52 PM

Just another smear campaign by the Daily Mail on a slow news day. They can't get any dirt on Kate herself, so its off to the family members. At this rate, William would be lucky to have any girl and her family take him on.

Izzysamos 08-30-2008 08:53 PM

Big deal. Looks like the usual little brother antics to me. I'm not impressed. My brother did the same kind of stuff when he was younger. I don't see how what he does affects Kate's future in the royal family. Meh.

putski 08-30-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy1716 (Post 817239)
Now this makes me laugh, i don't know what to make of it really.

Photos of the youngest Middleton that are sure to embarrass Kate! | Mail Online

Well good for you to find humor in it, because I just find it very upsetting. How horrible it must be for the Middletons to have their family ridiculed publicly... and from very biased internet sources no less. If they have no stories to tell and need to lift some content online, why not lift from more mature internet sites such as this?

Ella Kay 08-30-2008 10:01 PM

Just goes to show that the Mail has officially run out of things to write. It's so disgusting that their "journalists" have resorted to reprinting forum postings in their articles -- and that they've decided not only to go after Kate but also her family. I'll bet Prince William's going to be ticked.

So, is this "Nathan Kay" who "wrote"/copy-and-pasted that article related to Richard Kay?

Harry's polo shirt 08-31-2008 12:20 AM

those photos are so funny. people are so desperate to find something really bad about her that they had to look at her brother.

Duke of Marmalade 08-31-2008 04:26 AM

For people who live in the UK and see the tabloid headlines flashing every day these pictures are not even worth a second look. We are used to see stuff like this every day. Yesterday it was someone from the Big Brother House, today Kate Middleton's brother, tomorrow one of the Geldof girls. There is no difference anymore and I don't believe that anyone will think differently of Kate because of these pictures, nobody is bothered by what her brother does. I wouldn't be surprised if there are pictures that show William or Harry in similar positions as parts of their lives don't seem to be any different from the life of the ordinary british lad. Whether this is good for the monarchy or not is a different question. Regarding Kate, I think people judge her entirely on what they see from her and not on what her family does. Nobody is really interested in the Middletons, they are rather normal and can do what they want but these rules stopped applying to Kate herself when she started publicly dating Prince William.

felicity8782 08-31-2008 04:44 AM

I think he's hilarious. That won't embarrass Kate. 21 year old blokes are not usualy known for their stoicism and maturity. What a cracker!

Ahh slow news days, you can't beat them.

Skydragon 08-31-2008 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy1716 (Post 817239)

:cat::cat:Meow......

{response to deleted post removed - Elspeth}

Incas 08-31-2008 07:24 AM

If nothing else, the photos show Kate is by far the least exuberant of the Middletons. She has shown an incredible level of retraint not to have any photos over the last five or six years in similar states.

Isana 08-31-2008 09:05 AM

I guess Kate is just intelligent enough to understand that one shouldn't put any such pictures on facebook if there's media interest in you. Doesn't mean they don't exist but they'll not end up in the wrong hands as easily. James may simply have underestimated how far the press would go for a juicy story.

sneeuwklokje 08-31-2008 09:36 AM

Well, it's not as half as bad as Prince Harry showing up in a Nazi-uniform anyway:whistling:

putski 08-31-2008 08:50 PM

Something from The Sun...

Apparently Pippa's camera flashcard had been stolen. It contained personal pictures of Wills and Kate in Mustique.... and (drumroll) The Sun helped retrieve it without publishing the photos. Wow, someone wants to be in favor with the royals! But really, kudos to them for doing the right thing.

The Kate frame robbery | The Sun |News|Royals

Mermaid1962 08-31-2008 09:05 PM

Yes, they did the right thing. I give credit where credit is due.:smile:

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Originally Posted by putski (Post 817565)
Something from The Sun...

Apparently Pippa's camera flashcard had been stolen. It contained personal pictures of Wills and Kate in Mustique.... and (drumroll) The Sun helped retrieve it without publishing the photos. Wow, someone wants to be in favor with the royals! But really, kudos to them for doing the right thing.

The Kate frame robbery | The Sun |News|Royals


Incas 08-31-2008 09:10 PM

Actually, I don't think The Sun has a choice in the matter: printing the photos will probably be considered a crime since the items were product of a theft. If you read the article closely, The Sun did the best to discribe the photos in details. I'm sure they are skirting the letter of the law in the discriptions. If they were truly doing the right thing, they would have the police take over the undercover operation instead of sending their own paps to view the photos first.

Luv2Cruise 08-31-2008 10:56 PM

Well said Putski!;)

ghost_night554 09-01-2008 12:20 AM

I know this is just purely selfish of me but I would have loved to seen those photos, I think it's cause we never see them being very intimate.

TonyaR 09-01-2008 12:58 AM

I'm just as selfish as you've called yourself ghost_night554. I want to see those photos too! I'm glad they were able to apprehend the thieves and get Pippa's camera back to her, but I also wish we had been able to see those photos of William and Catherine. :lol:

It's a dilemma for sure, wanting to be sensitive to the overblown media exposure William and Catherine have to continually experience, and wanting to satisfy my personal curiosity to see them being warmer towards one another in public than we usually get to see.

Elspeth 09-01-2008 01:29 AM

I've deleted and edited a few posts about the Daily Mail article. Could I just remind everyone about this rule:
  • Discussion of other forums and websites should be limited to royal-related content. We do not allow criticism of other forums or continuation of disagreements that started elsewhere.
I understand that in this case the other forum is itself part of the story, but I think we can do without some of the name-calling that was going on.

Thanks for understanding.

Elspeth
for the British Royals moderation team

ghost_night554 09-01-2008 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyaR (Post 817603)
I'm just as selfish as you've called yourself ghost_night554. I want to see those photos too! I'm glad they were able to apprehend the thieves and get Pippa's camera back to her, but I also wish we had been able to see those photos of William and Catherine. :lol:

It's a dilemma for sure, wanting to be sensitive to the overblown media exposure William and Catherine have to continually experience, and wanting to satisfy my personal curiosity to see them being warmer towards one another in public than we usually get to see.

I know what you mean a part of me doesn't want to see things like this happening to William and Kate, and I'm glad the camera was returned but some part of me is going jeez why couldnt they have just leaked 2 or 3 pictures before giving it back :lol: ETA: obviously it would have led to legal problems but you get my point.

felicity8782 09-01-2008 05:02 AM

It would have been illegal to publish them anyway, so don't give the Sun too much credit. The man obtained them illegally so to publish photos from an illegal source, my guess is an illegal act.

Also to steal something as personal as the flash disk out of her camera, my guess is he was a friend or acquaintance of Pippa.

putski 09-01-2008 06:04 AM

Seems like legitimate news... the camera robbery story has now been reported at the Telegraph, BBC and DM, along with other foreign news sites.

Although it certainly would have provided guilty pleasure to have seen one or two pictures in question, I'm glad it looks like the pictures will remain what they should be -- private.

Incas 09-01-2008 07:27 AM

From Guardian,
Upfront: Damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't
Kathryn Flett on Kate Middleton | Life and style | The Observer


Comparing Kate Middleton to the BBC. I find the last line hilarious.

felicity8782 09-01-2008 07:51 AM

Hee! I don't really see the point of that article but it was a little funny. Definately Kate's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. If I was Kate's dad and William turned around one day and said: "well I'm not marrying you" I'd kill him for dragging her through all of this.

Ella Kay 09-01-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by felicity8782 (Post 817670)
Hee! I don't really see the point of that article but it was a little funny. Definately Kate's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. If I was Kate's dad and William turned around one day and said: "well I'm not marrying you" I'd kill him for dragging her through all of this.

No kidding! Michael Middleton always looks slightly PO'ed in paparazzi pictures anyway (the ones taken while the whole family waits at an airline counter are a great example). I'd look out if I were William if this whole thing went bust! :lol:

(One more reason that it's not going to, though, IMO. William seems as committed to Kate's family as he is to Kate herself!)

Little_star 09-01-2008 11:10 AM

If The Sun were to keep the memory card then they could be accused of handling stolen goods, which is a criminal offence.

Warren 09-01-2008 11:28 AM

... and if they published any of the photos they would be breaching copyright, leaving them open to further legal action.

kimebear 09-01-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Incas (Post 817666)
From Guardian,
Upfront: Damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't
Kathryn Flett on Kate Middleton | Life and style | The Observer


Comparing Kate Middleton to the BBC. I find the last line hilarious.

Kathryn Flett would do well to remember that The Queen is not going to be Kate's mother-in-law if she marries William. That would have been Diana. Also, The Observer might want to think about the legal liability they may incur from inferring that Kate is being "funded by the taxpayer". There could be some real flak from making this assumption, given the implications of such a statement.

Ella Kay 09-01-2008 11:56 AM

That's a good point, kimebear. Lots of media reports seem to be trying to insinuate lately that Kate's rolling around in piles of public money. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Prince William isn't even funded by taxpayer funds, is he? I thought the whole Wales family was making do quite nicely with the income from the Duchy of Cornwall -- not to mention the good chunk of interest that William's getting every year now on the inheritance from Diana.

TheTruth 09-01-2008 12:22 PM

Man arrested over photos of William and Kate - Yahoo! News UK

Avicenna 09-01-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTruth (Post 817750)

The German magazine "Spiegel" reported the same story today, too:
Prinz William und Kate Middleton: Mann nach Diebstahl privater Fotos festgenommen - Panorama - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten

Well done, Sun, to refuse this temptation.

Mermaid1962 09-01-2008 02:21 PM

Yes, exactly. The only way that Kate could possibly benefit from public money is if she had police protection.:flowers:

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Originally Posted by Ella Kay (Post 817747)
That's a good point, kimebear. Lots of media reports seem to be trying to insinuate lately that Kate's rolling around in piles of public money. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Prince William isn't even funded by taxpayer funds, is he? I thought the whole Wales family was making do quite nicely with the income from the Duchy of Cornwall -- not to mention the good chunk of interest that William's getting every year now on the inheritance from Diana.


Skydragon 09-01-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ella Kay (Post 817747)
That's a good point, kimebear. Lots of media reports seem to be trying to insinuate lately that Kate's rolling around in piles of public money. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Prince William isn't even funded by taxpayer funds, is he? I thought the whole Wales family was making do quite nicely with the income from the Duchy of Cornwall -- not to mention the good chunk of interest that William's getting every year now on the inheritance from Diana.

But Girls, you are forgetting, most of these articles could not exist if they had to stick to the facts!:biggrin:

Ella Kay 09-01-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon (Post 817835)
But Girls, you are forgetting, most of these articles could not exist if they had to stick to the facts!:biggrin:

Ha! So right -- whatever was I thinking? Articles written that included only verified facts would be about as long as this post! :lol:

Isana 09-02-2008 05:39 AM

Revealed: Kate Middleton works nine to five for her parents in a mundane office job | Mail Online

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Kate Middleton is not workshy but busy nine to five working for her parents in a mundane office job, it was revealed today.
Critics dubbed Prince William's probable future wife 'Waity Katy', and claimed she spent her time shopping and socialising while she waited for William, 26, to propose.
But Ms Middleton, also 26, has been 'compiling and editing catalogues' for her parents' mail order party accessory company five days a week from the family home in Bucklebury, Berkshire.
The Queen was said to disapprove of her apparently lazy lifestyle, wanting her to take up charity work.
But Ms Middleton has told friends such reports are 'utter nonsense', according to Hello! magazine.
A close friend said: 'She is a young woman who wants to keep active and that is why she is annoyed at the headlines saying she doesn't work.
'She is actually working full-time, is on the payroll and plans to continue doing the job.'

Duke of Marmalade 09-02-2008 08:19 AM

Kate's friends at Hello! try to do some positive spin and put her on the front page.

Friend reveals Kate's nine to five role exclusively to HELLO!

She can't win anyway, even if it's true it sounds like an easy solution to escape the waity katie image. It is indeed revealing that a 26 year old history of art graduate does editing catalogues for the mail-order company of her parents - but unfortunately not in the sense of Hello!'s intentions. It's more or less a reaction to the critics of the last weeks or months or years but not very convincing. She remains Waity Katie, at least doing something until William pops the question but only enforced by the public opinion that doesn't approve of her lifestyle.

Mermaid1962 09-02-2008 12:01 PM

I don't understand what can possibly be wrong with Kate working in her family business. She's safe from the paparazzi there and earns her money. It's good, honest work. What's the real difference between what Kate's doing and the son or daughter of wealthy land-owner learning to manage the estate? Oh, I get it...Kate's work is too "middle class" and reeks of "trade." :bang:

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade (Post 817971)
Kate's friends at Hello! try to do some positive spin and put her on the front page.

Friend reveals Kate's nine to five role exclusively to HELLO!

She can't win anyway, even if it's true it sounds like an easy solution to escape the waity katie image.


putski 09-02-2008 12:25 PM

Anyhow, I'm glad Hello published this article to counter the endless reports of her jobless status. Perhaps it was timed as PR to improve her image, but one cannot discount its credibility. Indeed, Kate has spent most of her time in Berkshire in the past few months... she has been snapped at the Party Pieces Headquarters. I, for a fact, always suspected she did some kind of work for the family, be it full time, part time or seasonal. Why the media never picked up on this is beyond me. Perhaps it's because it's more fun to mock people than to praise them... especially when they're in the public eye.

Isana 09-02-2008 01:01 PM

I knew that the moment something about Kate having a job turned up those who constantly call on her to get one won't believe it and find fault with it. Since when is working in a family business not a real job? I guess nothing will ever do when it comes to Kate. :rolleyes:

Ella Kay 09-02-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isana (Post 818085)
I knew that the moment something about Kate having a job turned up those who constantly call on her to get one won't believe it and find fault with it. Since when is working in a family business not a real job? I guess nothing will ever do when it comes to Kate. :rolleyes:

Kathryn Flett hit the basic nail right on the head this weekend: she really is damned if she doesn't and damned if she does. If nothing's published in the press about Kate's job, they argue that she's lazy and doesn't have one. When articles are published that signal that Kate is working, well, those must not be true!

It's so silly. It makes me wonder why they insist that anyone who writes something less than negative about Kate must be lying.

Regardless, we can't prove what Kate does on a daily basis, but I see no reason to believe that she isn't working at Party Pieces. And if she is, bully for her. I've said it before, and if this debate rages on, I'll surely have to say it again: isn't working for her family excellent preparation for eventually working for the family? I would imagine so!

tommy1716 09-02-2008 05:36 PM

I'm not saying the reports aren't trueor that they are true. All i am saying, and i am honestly impartial here, if she is working good for her. However it was said, could be false, that when she aproched a photographer to work in a gallery she asked to work three days a week and have flexible hours when William was in London. So why is she then working "9 to 5". I think, the truth is more likely to be a compromsie, yes she is working, a few days a week and being flexible when needed. I think the answer lies in the middle rather than at the two exremes.

Incas 09-02-2008 07:16 PM

OK, this is not about the "news" as it's a repeat on the photo story. But who is in that photo? One would expect the Press Association know what Prince William look like.:lol::lol:

The Press Association: William and Kate photos stolen

Ella Kay 09-02-2008 07:24 PM

I think you're absolutely right about the truth of Kate's work life falling somewhere in the middle, Tommy. I'd imagine that the closest we've gotten to a reliable report on her work life is that interview the Express did with Belle Robinson. IMO, the Kate depicted in that interview is one who wanted to work and liked her job at Jigsaw but who was not yearning to make a career the number one priority in her life. The Kate that Belle Robinson talked about wasn't someone interested in throwing herself into a tasking, all-consuming job, but she wasn't someone who was a lazy layabout either.

As far as that photography story goes, it's from the first story by the Mail that published "embarrassing" photos of the Middleton siblings:

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For her part, Kate has been trying to reinvent herself as a photographer, helping out at her parents' firm by taking pictures for their website of the cakes James has iced. Believing that her relationship with Prince William was bound to help, she has been canvassing top studio photographers with a view to being taken on as a trainee. Surprisingly, the Royal Family's huge influence cannot be made to stretch this far.

'One important photographer was listening well enough until she explained she wanted to do a four-day week and would have to be given leave whenever William was in town,' reports a close figure. 'He sent her away with a flea in her ear.'
It basically recycles the language that Belle Robinson used about Kate's Jigsaw work schedule, and I'm reluctant to give it much credibility, especially because of the content of the rest of that article.

Ella Kay 09-02-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Incas (Post 818260)
OK, this is not about the "news" as it's a repeat on the photo story. But who is in that photo? One would expect the Press Association know what Prince William look like.:lol::lol:

The Press Association: William and Kate photos stolen

Excellent catch! I don't know who he is, but I'd think twice about stealing a camera if he were around! Very authoritative and sinister! :lol:

muriel 09-03-2008 06:30 AM

I think the Hello story about Kate working 9-5 is probably a carefully planted "PR" story - so well done Clarence House PR machine! Assuming Kate has actually been working with her parents for a while, it is good that this is being clarified - and hopefully that will put a stop to all the gossip about how she spends her time - not that it was anybody's business. Hopefuly this well give the DMail something to think about - and perhaps think about how they might "update" their smear campaign!

Coming down to the hours she actually works, I don't think the press will ever get the full story. In practice, given that it is a small family business, I suspect she works as long as she needs to get the job done - and on some days it will be more, and on others, less - and I am sure they all muck in!

It would be interesting to see if she were to marry William, and if she were to take an interest in the Royal collection - providing a link with her degree... only time will tell!

Kezza 09-03-2008 09:41 AM

I don't think CH has anything to do with it. I think this comes from The Middleton Camp to try and save Kate's image with the public and press. I don't think CH would agree to an Hello deal just to tell the readers that Kate blames CH for the mess she has got herself into, and allow her family to get publicity for their family business.

Lady Ann 09-03-2008 01:01 PM

I have to agree with you there..Kezza the only thing you ever hear coming from CH is that they do not comment on the personal life of Prince William..and to Hello to top it off after the so called mess with Pete's Wedding photos ....

PrincessofEurope 09-03-2008 02:35 PM

Having read the article in Hello i thought that it wasnt much of an "exclusive" i mean we all have seen the pictures of Kate working at her parents and im sure that with all the bad press she has been getting in reagrds to her lack of job/constant partying Kate would be annoyed/upset (i know i would) the articles has a page about other's peoples opinions on the subject such as Jenny Bond, Ingrid Seward, Max Clifford, Daisy Lowe (what really has this model got to do with Kate :rolleyes:), Dickie Arbiter and Jennie Bond. To me the article was more about these people getting themselves in the press to be seen talking about Kate and adding fuel to the fire. It also contains a comparison with previous royal girlfriends - Sophie, Fergie and Diana and im sure Kate does not wnat to be compared to them constanty. Hello have merely put Kate on the main cover to get readers to buy it yet it contains only 4 pages (btw i get Hello every week so that wasnt my reason for buying it :biggrin:) Hello really wanted to cash in / jump on the Kate rollercoaster

magnik 09-03-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Incas (Post 818260)
OK, this is not about the "news" as it's a repeat on the photo story. But who is in that photo? One would expect the Press Association know what Prince William look like.:lol::lol:

The Press Association: William and Kate photos stolen

Incas that's Will and Kate of course! How you could don't know how they look if even PA know?!;):whistling:

Incas 09-03-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessofEurope (Post 818646)
the articles has a page about other's peoples opinions on the subject such as Jenny Bond, Ingrid Seward, Max Clifford, Daisy Lowe (what really has this model got to do with Kate :rolleyes:), Dickie Arbiter and Jennie Bond.

Thanks for the info, PrincessofEurope. Save me a trip to the newsagent. It's amazing how much "authority" these people bring to any BRF related conversation.:rofl: If anything, they are the ones in desperate need for a proper job.

muriel 09-04-2008 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Ann (Post 818587)
I have to agree with you there..Kezza the only thing you ever hear coming from CH is that they do not comment on the personal life of Prince William..and to Hello to top it off after the so called mess with Pete's Wedding photos ....

I am sure the official line of CH remains that they do not comment on the personal lives of various members of the royal family. That said, clever and proactive PR is all about giving off -the-record briefings, with a view to getting the correct and positive message across. In this case, it was in CH's interest to get the message across that Kate is not sitting around idle, and is in fact working for her parents. I do not believe that the Middletons' themselves would have leaked this without the knowledge and guidance of CH.

Re choice of Hello - Firstly, it was hardly as "exclusive" interview / release. Secondly, I would have thought Hello would be easier and "cleaner" to deal with than one of the tabloids, from CH's perspective. Thirdly, the issue with Peter & Autumn's wedding pictures was not to do with Hello per se, the issue there was really whether the couple should have been allowed to sell the rights. From BP/CH's perspective, it did not matter who the pictures were sold to.

muriel 09-04-2008 04:27 AM

Does anybody know of Will's whereabouts these days? Is he up in Scotland with the family, or is he doing some military training?

Warren 09-04-2008 11:06 AM

Moving the furniture around...
Posts discussing possible residences of William and wife have been moved to the Future Residences thread;
posts discussing the ins and outs of Ms Middleton's employment (or not) have been moved to the rumours & musings thread.

Ella Kay 09-06-2008 07:45 PM

Prince William takes Kate Middleton down the aisle | News of the World

The two of them look great - I love Kate's jacket/skirt combo this time. They look really happy. :smile:

ghost_night554 09-06-2008 08:38 PM

Aw they look so cute! Sorry I have no idea where that came from but it's so rare to see them together at a proper event.

Mermaid1962 09-06-2008 08:48 PM

They make a really nice-looking couple and seem happy together. I hope that it continues.:smile:

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Originally Posted by ghost_night554 (Post 820035)
Aw they look so cute! Sorry I have no idea where that came from but it's so rare to see them together at a proper event.


ghost_night554 09-06-2008 09:19 PM

^I know I can't help but love them together, at first I was really scared William would choose a women who really wasn't fit for the role but Kate in my eyes so far is definitly fits. I know, we hardly have any real information about her but from everything I've seen she seems like the right person for the job.

Incas 09-06-2008 10:21 PM

"And significantly he asked that his dad’s bodyguard Dominic Ryan be Kate’s for the day."....umm, didn't the story begin with Prince William being at the wedding. Shouldn't his bodyguard be there for HIM rather than for Kate?:whistling:

stellam 09-07-2008 01:44 AM

William is a good looking chap but in these pics of them at the wedding he looks more than good looking. Lovely outfit Kate is wearing. To me they look like a good match. Let's hope it lasts.

Stellad


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