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Warren 03-14-2006 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by grim_lady
I just picked up the latest issue of People and it talked about the wealth a few families and their worths:

Saudi Royals: $25.5 billion
Brunei royals: $13 Billion
Luxembourg royals: $4.3 Billion
Monaco royals: $2.6 Billion
British royals: $506 Million

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From worldroots.com:

Grand Duke Henri - 5 billion Euro
Queen Elizabeth - 4 billion
Queen Beatrix - 400 million
King Harald - 150 million
King Carl Gustav - 25 million
King Albert - 20 million
Queen Margrethe - 15 million
King Juan Carlos - 10 million
Don't worry about the amounts, look at the relativities. Luxembourg way up there, again; still an unanswered question. When we think of Royal wealth we go for Brunei, Queen Beatrix, the Windsors etc; the Nassaus never enter the equation. We know more about secretive Liechtenstein than the Luxembourgers. How have they managed to fly under the radar for so long? Apart from these guesstimate lists, why is it never discussed, or even mentioned?

Little_star 03-15-2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~
I agree. Im totally surprised by this figure as well!
I'd never have guessed as much from the moroccan royals' lifestyle.

It just goes to show that their lifeestyle isn't as low-key as the image they project.

GrandDuchess 03-15-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren
We know more about secretive Liechtenstein than the Luxembourgers. How have they managed to fly under the radar for so long? Apart from these guesstimate lists, why is it never discussed, or even mentioned?

Perhaps because Luxembourg has very special law regulations concerning the press/media in the Grand Duchy. The media is also controlled by strong interest groups...

Monalisa 03-17-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Little_star
$250million is still an excessive and obscene amount of money for a monarch of a 3rd world country to be spending. Especailly when the family has a private wealth of billions.

Yes,I agree 250M$ is a lot and the moroccan monarchy should think seriously to tone donwn that coast,especially that some of the 20 palaces of the alaouite monarchy are not used by the king M6,as he said as he prefers to stay in a more modest palace.

As for the 3d world country thing,I don't agree that is related to that,the alaouite family monarchy is older more than 1000years,and it's normal that their wealth is big,it's not like some families especially middle eastern one who came from nowhere in the last century,and took the power,and now they are the wealthiest in the world... ;)

Monalisa 03-17-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~


Im totally surprised by this figure as well!
I'd never have guessed as much from the moroccan royals' lifestyle.


Yes indeed,one could be surprised because the caost of the moroccan monarchy is made public and not hidden,so it's compared to what's knowen,but I am sure that those who hide their wealth and spending is much more than the moroccan one...I am talking about the ME roayl families basically.

Warren 03-17-2006 11:00 PM

Posts where the discussion was getting pointed and personal have been removed.

I have moved the posts relating to the history of Morocco and the dynasty to a new thread in the Morocco Forum: Dynastic History of Morocco.

Warren
Royal Forums moderator

Little_star 05-06-2006 09:12 AM

Forbes: Wealthiest World Rulers
 
New York - Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah, Cuban President Fidel Castro, Monaco's Prince Albert II and Britain's Queen Elizabeth II are among the world's wealthiest rulers, reported Forbes magazine on its website on Friday.
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1- King Abdullah II (KSA)- $21bn
2- Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei- $20bn
3- Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan (President of UAE)- $19bn
4- Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum (Dubai's ruler)- $14bn
5- Prince Hans-Adam II of Liechtenstein- $4bn
6- Prince Albert II of Monaco- $1bn
7- President Fidel Castro- $900m
8- President Teodoro Obiang Nguema (Equatorial Guinea)- $600m
9- Queen Elizabeth II (UK)- $500m
10- Queen Beatrix (Netherlands)- $270m

Alexandria 05-06-2006 09:17 AM

Has Queen Beatrix slipped in this chart? I always thought that she was one of the more wealthiest royals, so I'm surprised that Hans-Adam and Albert are richer than her.

Little_star 05-06-2006 09:21 AM

There seems to be a bit of confusion about Queen Beatrix, I've heard people say that she's incredibly wealthy, although on the other hand I've heard that her personal wealth is only $30m. I'm not sure what to believe, there seems to be an air of mystery about her.

I was surprised that the Moroccan Royal Family was not on the list. In the past Forbes has estimated at them being worth $3-4bn.

Alexandria 05-06-2006 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Little_star
There seems to be a bit of confusion about Queen Beatrix, I've heard people say that she's incredibly wealthy, although on the other hand I've heard that her personal wealth is only $30m. I'm not sure what to believe, there seems to be an air of mystery about her.

Some various lists that I've seen over the years have measured wealth in different ways. Some have included personal wealth but also assets owned by the family and inheritances bestowed to her from her parents.

Maybe someone better informed about the Dutch can clarify, but Queen Beatrix's personal assets probably include some jewellery as well as property, such as the holiday home in Italy.

I've heard that QEII's wealth has been measured (not necesssarily with the list you've posted) to include assets that she is in care of as the Queen of England, which includes paintings and national artifacts which would be highly valued.

Little_star 05-06-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexandria
Some various lists that I've seen over the years have measured wealth in different ways. Some have included personal wealth but also assets owned by the family and inheritances bestowed to her from her parents.

Maybe someone better informed about the Dutch can clarify, but Queen Beatrix's personal assets probably include some jewellery as well as property, such as the holiday home in Italy.

I only wondered becuase I've heard in the past that the Dutch RF, and Queen Beatrix in particular, retain a substantial fortune becuase of some shares she owns in oil companies. As you said though someone better ecquainted with the Dutch RF would be better informed.

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Originally Posted by Alexandria
I've heard that QEII's wealth has been measured (not necesssarily with the list you've posted) to include assets that she is in care of as the Queen of England, which includes paintings and national artifacts which would be highly valued.

The Forbes list is of QEII's personal wealth, so Buckingham Palace and certain jewels aren't included.

Queen Zenobia 05-08-2006 03:43 AM

I think the richest are the Leichestien royal family-excue my spelling of it. One of it's members made the Billionare Forbes list.

Warren 05-08-2006 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Zenobia
I think the richest are the Leichestien royal family-excue my spelling of it. One of it's members made the Billionare Forbes list.

The 2006 Forbes List has been provided by Little_star at post #197.

Marengo 05-08-2006 07:13 AM

How do they come up with these figures anyway? Two years ago Queen B was estimated at 2 billion, and now for 220 million euros. A dutch newspaper published recently that according to a courtier her personal capital was however less then 1 million, while Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn said that they owned 7 billion. In overall, it is rediculous to make lists like these as the makers have no insight at all in the financial situation of the people on the list.

BeatrixFan 05-08-2006 02:10 PM

And they missed me off of the list yet again...;)

Little_star 05-22-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Monalisa
Yes,I agree 250M$ is a lot and the moroccan monarchy should think seriously to tone donwn that coast,especially that some of the 20 palaces of the alaouite monarchy are not used by the king M6,as he said as he prefers to stay in a more modest palace.

I'm glad that you think spending 61,000 a month on stationery is excessive.

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Originally Posted by Monalisa
As for the 3d world country thing,I don't agree that is related to that,the alaouite family monarchy is older more than 1000years,and it's normal that their wealth is big,

I don't doubt that their wealth would be sizeable considering their total reign.

However, I don't think there's any justification for their excessive and downright depraved spending when you consider that one fifth of the population lives on $1 a day.

Laraib 05-22-2006 07:27 PM

Does anyone know where Jordan's royal families wealth is estimated at? Compared with other Arab royalties? :confused: :)

soCal girl 05-23-2006 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Laraib
Does anyone know where Jordan's royal families wealth is estimated at? Compared with other Arab royalties? :confused: :)

I don't think it's ever been revealed.....but I'm sure it's a decent amount if one of their tiaras is worth $1 million. (That's what I was told, don't know if it's true)

Little_star 05-23-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Laraib
Does anyone know where Jordan's royal families wealth is estimated at? Compared with other Arab royalties? :confused: :)

There was alot of speculation at the time of King Husseins' death but it has never been revealed.
I doubt that it's anywhere in the league of the Saudi Royal Family or Sheikh Mohammed of Dubai.

Diogenes 05-23-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Zenobia
I think the richest are the Leichestien royal family-excue my spelling of it. One of it's members made the Billionare Forbes list.

It's amazing how much you can make from big, triangular stamps!


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